Re: [CentOS] Virtualization Options!

2012-11-08 Thread Tilman Schmidt
Am 01.11.2012 13:55, schrieb Johnny Hughes:
 
 Note:  This is a very good resource to explain the differences between a
 Cloud and Virtualization:
 
 http://vimeo.com/51856809

Is that available as text somewhere?
Presentation videos are so wearisome to sit through,
especially if they are in a different language than
the one you're usually hearing in your workplace.

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Re: [CentOS] Virtualization Options!

2012-11-01 Thread Antonio da Silva Martins Junior
Hi folks,

   Thanks for your advices, I'll take a look on all and post what I conclude on
it. 

   Maybe I'm not clear enought, I already had CentOS5.8 Xen on my Hosts, but I'm
finding a solution more enterprise. The HA/Load Balance solution we had are 
self
made, it is much time consuming for our needs. We are searching for something 
more 
easy (or self) administering software.

   This is why we take a look on VMware, Citrix, etc...

   We'll take a look on OpenStack, RHEV/RHEM, maybe Oracle VM...

   Thanks,

Antonio.

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Re: [CentOS] Virtualization Options!

2012-11-01 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 11/01/2012 06:53 AM, Antonio da Silva Martins Junior wrote:
 Hi folks,

Thanks for your advices, I'll take a look on all and post what I conclude 
 on
 it. 

Maybe I'm not clear enought, I already had CentOS5.8 Xen on my Hosts, but 
 I'm
 finding a solution more enterprise. The HA/Load Balance solution we had are 
 self
 made, it is much time consuming for our needs. We are searching for something 
 more 
 easy (or self) administering software.

This is why we take a look on VMware, Citrix, etc...

We'll take a look on OpenStack, RHEV/RHEM, maybe Oracle VM...

Thanks,

 Antonio.


If you are looking for Cloud stacks and not just Virtualization, then
take a good look at Eucalyptus:

http://www.eucalyptus.com/

Here is a faststart install video, which could not be easier to get
started with:

http://www.eucalyptus.com/video/faststart-eucalyptus-31

There are other cloud options on CentOS, though most are in the testing
stages. 

If you want to test oVirt 3.1 you can look here:

http://people.centos.org/hughesjr/ovirt31/

We also have official Amazon Web Services images here:

http://wiki.centos.org/Cloud/AWS

The CentOS Project is also currently working on official Open Nebula
RPMS and images (not sure if Karanbir has released a test install of
those or not yet).   Karanbir .. if you do have the Open Nebula stuff
ready for testing, post a link.



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Re: [CentOS] Virtualization Options!

2012-11-01 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 11/01/2012 07:42 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
 On 11/01/2012 06:53 AM, Antonio da Silva Martins Junior wrote:
 Hi folks,

Thanks for your advices, I'll take a look on all and post what I conclude 
 on
 it. 

Maybe I'm not clear enought, I already had CentOS5.8 Xen on my Hosts, but 
 I'm
 finding a solution more enterprise. The HA/Load Balance solution we had 
 are self
 made, it is much time consuming for our needs. We are searching for 
 something more 
 easy (or self) administering software.

This is why we take a look on VMware, Citrix, etc...

We'll take a look on OpenStack, RHEV/RHEM, maybe Oracle VM...

Thanks,

 Antonio.

 If you are looking for Cloud stacks and not just Virtualization

Note:  This is a very good resource to explain the differences between a
Cloud and Virtualization:

http://vimeo.com/51856809





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Re: [CentOS] Virtualization Options!

2012-11-01 Thread Antonio da Silva Martins Junior

- Johnny Hughes joh...@centos.org escreveu:

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 Para: centos@centos.org
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 Assunto: Re: [CentOS] Virtualization Options!

 On 11/01/2012 07:42 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
  On 11/01/2012 06:53 AM, Antonio da Silva Martins Junior wrote:
  Hi folks,
 
 Thanks for your advices, I'll take a look on all and post what I 
  conclude on it. 
 
 Maybe I'm not clear enought, I already had CentOS5.8 Xen on my Hosts, 
  but I'm 
  finding a solution more enterprise. The HA/Load Balance solution we had 
  are self 
  made, it is much time consuming for our needs. We are searching for 
  something more 
  easy (or self) administering software.
 
 This is why we take a look on VMware, Citrix, etc...
 
 We'll take a look on OpenStack, RHEV/RHEM, maybe Oracle VM...
 
 Thanks,
 
  Antonio.
 
  If you are looking for Cloud stacks and not just Virtualization
 
 Note:  This is a very good resource to explain the differences between
 a Cloud and Virtualization:
 
 http://vimeo.com/51856809
 

Well, thanks...

   I'll take a look on this...

   I'm thinking a cloud will be a bit overkilling for our applications :D We
had only a dozen hosts with aprox. 100 VMs (linux, windows) on it. But, today,
almos everything is a cloud :D

   I already read the manuals of Eucaliptus and OpenStack, will take a look on 
OpenNebula, too...

   I'm thinking that we will have a cloud when we can use VDI to virtualize 
our desktop labs :D
For now we are searching a way to automatize the management of our VMs, but 
without all of the lights,
rings, and bells most of the cloud softwares had :D Our installation is prety 
simple: all hosts share some
LUNs from the Storage (via iSCSI). We had cLVM on it. The VMs had their own LVM 
partition. And we had a
couple o C and bash programs that do the magic. But, to deploy a new VM is 
almos the same as deploy a physical
host. No snaphsot (cLVM didn't had it working), and no clone (it almost kills 
the SAN net). This is why we are
searching for something else! VMware and Citrix made some demonstrations for 
our boss, but both needs MS-AD.

Then we are searching for other options :D

We already had talks with RH, thanks Jim Wildman, and well we aren't in a 
touristic area either :D 
 
Well... we are still searching :D

 
Thanks,


   Antonio.
   
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Re: [CentOS] Virtualization Options!

2012-11-01 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 11/01/2012 12:42 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
 
 If you are looking for Cloud stacks and not just Virtualization, then
 take a good look at Eucalyptus:
 
 http://www.eucalyptus.com/
 
 Here is a faststart install video, which could not be easier to get
 started with:
 
 http://www.eucalyptus.com/video/faststart-eucalyptus-31
 
 There are other cloud options on CentOS, though most are in the testing
 stages. 
 
 If you want to test oVirt 3.1 you can look here:
 
 http://people.centos.org/hughesjr/ovirt31/


 
 We also have official Amazon Web Services images here:
 
 http://wiki.centos.org/Cloud/AWS

this is not actually available as yet, but it should be soon.

 
 The CentOS Project is also currently working on official Open Nebula
 RPMS and images (not sure if Karanbir has released a test install of
 those or not yet).   Karanbir .. if you do have the Open Nebula stuff
 ready for testing, post a link.
 

soon :)


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[CentOS] Virtualization Options!

2012-10-31 Thread Antonio da Silva Martins Junior
Hi, 

   I'm searching for virtualization options. I already take a look on 
VMware, but it needs too much MS software to work for my needs. Citrix needs
less, but the key validation is still MS-AD.

   Now I'm taking a look at RHEV... and run into Oracle VM! Somebody had already
take a look at Oracle VM? 

   We need in primary a solid VM solution for an enterprise cloud running 
on top of some old and new Dell servers in conjunction with an EMC Cx4-120 
storage.

   We had plans to provide desktop virtualization in the future, most to
labs class, and maybe adminstrative tasks. But it isn't necessary now.

   Anybody had some other options to tell?

   Thanks in advance,


 Antonio.  

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Re: [CentOS] Virtualization Options!

2012-10-31 Thread Digimer
On 10/31/2012 01:40 PM, Antonio da Silva Martins Junior wrote:
 Hi, 
 
I'm searching for virtualization options. I already take a look on 
 VMware, but it needs too much MS software to work for my needs. Citrix needs
 less, but the key validation is still MS-AD.
 
Now I'm taking a look at RHEV... and run into Oracle VM! Somebody had 
 already
 take a look at Oracle VM? 
 
We need in primary a solid VM solution for an enterprise cloud running 
 on top of some old and new Dell servers in conjunction with an EMC Cx4-120 
 storage.
 
We had plans to provide desktop virtualization in the future, most to
 labs class, and maybe adminstrative tasks. But it isn't necessary now.
 
Anybody had some other options to tell?
 
Thanks in advance,
 
 
  Antonio.  

I use KVM on RHEL (not RHEV specifically) and the VMs (linux, windows,
*bsd, solaris) are perform very well. I actually couple this to Red
Hat's cluster suite and Linbit's DRBD to make the VMs highly available.
I've got this setup in production in several locations around north
america going back to when 6.0 was released, and it's been fantastic.

If you're interested, here is exactly how I do it;

https://alteeve.ca/w/2-Node_Red_Hat_KVM_Cluster_Tutorial

All open source (and free-as-in-beer on CentOS)!

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Re: [CentOS] Virtualization Options!

2012-10-31 Thread Stephen Harris
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 03:40:05PM -0200, Antonio da Silva Martins Junior wrote:
 Hi, 
 
I'm searching for virtualization options. I already take a look on 
 VMware, but it needs too much MS software to work for my needs. Citrix needs
 less, but the key validation is still MS-AD.

http://sweh.spuddy.org/Essays/Virtualization_options.html
http://sweh.spuddy.org/Essays/Virtualization_update.html
http://sweh.spuddy.org/Essays/Virtualization_allchange.html

I'm still using KVM, but using with kickstart rather than templates.

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Re: [CentOS] Virtualization Options!

2012-10-31 Thread Steve Thompson
On Wed, 31 Oct 2012, Stephen Harris wrote:

 I'm still using KVM, but using with kickstart rather than templates.

I switched from Xen (and, before that, VMware) to KVM about eighteen 
months or so ago just to see what the fuss was about, and have not looked 
back. I have since deployed about 75-80 virtual machines with KVM (Linux 
and Windows XP, 2003, 7) and have had zero problems; everything worked 
perfectly first time out and has continued that way. Performance is better 
too. I install Linux on a KVM guest using the same PXE+kickstart 
procedures that are used for physical boxes. I can expound further on my 
KVM likes if anyone is interested.

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Re: [CentOS] Virtualization Options!

2012-10-31 Thread Nux!
On 31.10.2012 17:40, Antonio da Silva Martins Junior wrote:
 Hi,

I'm searching for virtualization options.

KVM+libvirt, definitely (+VirtManager as desktop GUI). It's a fantastic 
match.
Might be worth looking at openstack, too, it's all the rage these days. 
It is also using kvm and libvirt.

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Re: [CentOS] Virtualization Options!

2012-10-31 Thread Fajar Priyanto
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 1:40 AM, Antonio da Silva Martins Junior
asmart...@uem.br wrote:
 Hi,

I'm searching for virtualization options. I already take a look on
 VMware, but it needs too much MS software to work for my needs. Citrix needs
 less, but the key validation is still MS-AD.

The latest VMware vSphere 5.1 supports plain LDAP and Web client.
But yeah it's not 100% MS free.
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