Re: [CentOS] cent0s-6 and virtualbox

2011-07-18 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Michel Donais wrote:
 Hrrm, seems as if the ISO may be using a PAE kernel by default.  PAE is
 a kernel that will be able to make use of more than 4GB of RAM with
 i686.

 Ah, I see it's apparently a decision by RH.  I assume there's some logic
 in it, though I don't know what it is.


 http://jp.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=26352forum=14


 See if it's possible to add
 PAE to the machine settings in VirtualBox.   Settings=System=Processor

 The box is already checked but the CPU doesn't have PAE capability so it's 
 useless.
 
 It won't be a bad thing thatthe install may do a choice of a cpu with or not 
 the capability of PAE as it was in the past.
 

Red Hat decided that this newer version of RHEL(CentOS) *must* have PAE 
support by CPU to be installed. I think they would even prefer to loose 
i386 branch all together. Indication was when they supported (or just 
forced, cant remember witch) Virtualization only on x86_64 on 
RHEL/CentOS 5.x.


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Re: [CentOS] cent0s-6 and virtualbox

2011-07-18 Thread James Hogarth
 Indication was when they supported (or just
 forced, cant remember witch) Virtualization only on x86_64 on
 RHEL/CentOS 5.x.


They only support KVM as a host technology for virtualization now. KVM
requires the CPU virtualization extensions to function. The functions
are only available on the CPU when in 64bit (long) mode.

There are sound technical reasons for this and it wasn't just them
being stubborn to drop an architecture.
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Re: [CentOS] cent0s-6 and virtualbox

2011-07-18 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
James Hogarth wrote:
 Indication was when they supported (or just
 forced, cant remember witch) Virtualization only on x86_64 on
 RHEL/CentOS 5.x.

 
 They only support KVM as a host technology for virtualization now. KVM
 requires the CPU virtualization extensions to function. The functions
 are only available on the CPU when in 64bit (long) mode.
 
 There are sound technical reasons for this and it wasn't just them
 being stubborn to drop an architecture.
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I had (and still do) rpm packages (kvm-84-1.i386) for KVM on 32-bit 
platform, made by L. Farkas. I used it successfully up to 5.4 (I think) 
when I reinstalled my server and used x86_64 version. Maybe those 
requirements are of the newer date?

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Re: [CentOS] cent0s-6 and virtualbox

2011-07-18 Thread Scott Robbins
 
 
   On Monday, July 18, 2011 01:52 AM, Michel Donais wrote:
 
 
   The version is CentOS-6.0-i386-bin-DVD.iso
   With each virtual machine I get this result at the beginning of the
   installation:
   This kernel requires the following features not present on the cpu pae
   Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU
   I undeerstand that perhaps the computer processor is too old.
   But is there a patch to overpass this problem?

I might have messed up the quoting here, not sure if Michael was the OP,
but at any rate, there is this post on SL forums about installing a
non-PAE kernel which might be useful.

http://scientificlinuxforum.org/index.php?showtopic=621


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Re: [CentOS] cent0s-6 and virtualbox

2011-07-18 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Scott Robbins scot...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

   On Monday, July 18, 2011 01:52 AM, Michel Donais wrote:

   The version is CentOS-6.0-i386-bin-DVD.iso
   With each virtual machine I get this result at the beginning of the
   installation:
   This kernel requires the following features not present on the cpu pae
   Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU
   I undeerstand that perhaps the computer processor is too old.
   But is there a patch to overpass this problem?

 I might have messed up the quoting here, not sure if Michael was the OP,
 but at any rate, there is this post on SL forums about installing a
 non-PAE kernel which might be useful.

 http://scientificlinuxforum.org/index.php?showtopic=621

Or ... keep an eye on this ELRepo bug tracker:

http://elrepo.org/bugs/view.php?id=153

kernel-ml for EL6 will have a non-PAE flavo(u)r. It is now cooking.

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[CentOS] cent0s-6 and virtualbox

2011-07-17 Thread Michel Donais
I want to get a look at Cents-6
The computer is a portable Thinkpad T-42
The base OS is Windows XP Professionnal 

I tried to use both Microsoft Virtual PC and Oracle Virtual Box with the same 
result
I boot from the CD (wich have been burned from an ISO downloaded from a Centos 
-6 repo).
The version is CentOS-6.0-i386-bin-DVD.iso

With each virtual machine I get this result at the beginning of the 
installation:
This kernel requires the following features not present on the cpu pae
Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU

I undeerstand that perhaps the computer processor is too old.
But is there a patch to overpass this problem?

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Re: [CentOS] cent0s-6 and virtualbox

2011-07-17 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Michel Donais wrote:
 I want to get a look at Cents-6
 The computer is a portable Thinkpad T-42
 The base OS is Windows XP Professionnal 
  
 I tried to use both Microsoft Virtual PC and Oracle Virtual Box with the 
 same result
 I boot from the CD (wich have been burned from an ISO downloaded from a 
 Centos -6 repo).
 The version is CentOS-6.0-i386-bin-DVD.iso
  
 With each virtual machine I get this result at the beginning of the 
 installation:
 This kernel requires the following features not present on the cpu pae
 Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU
  
 I undeerstand that perhaps the computer processor is too old.
 But is there a patch to overpass this problem?
  
  ---
 Michel Donais
 

In one word: No.

Ljubomir
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Re: [CentOS] cent0s-6 and virtualbox

2011-07-17 Thread Always Learning

On Sun, 2011-07-17 at 13:52 -0400, Michel Donais wrote:

 Thinkpad T-42

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThinkPad

ThinkPad T40-series
Includes the T40, T41, T42, T43, and associated p series (for
performance; e.g., T43p). A typical 14.1-inch (360 mm) T4x
weighs 4.9 lb (2.2 kg), slightly less than the 600-series, and
features an Intel Pentium M Processor (ranging from the Intel
Pentium M at 1.73 GHz to the Intel Pentium M 770 at 2.13 GHz), 

Hope that helps.


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Re: [CentOS] cent0s-6 and virtualbox

2011-07-17 Thread Christopher Chan
On Monday, July 18, 2011 01:52 AM, Michel Donais wrote:
 I want to get a look at Cents-6
 The computer is a portable Thinkpad T-42
 The base OS is Windows XP Professionnal
 I tried to use both Microsoft Virtual PC and Oracle Virtual Box with the
 same result
 I boot from the CD (wich have been burned from an ISO downloaded from a
 Centos -6 repo).
 The version is CentOS-6.0-i386-bin-DVD.iso
 With each virtual machine I get this result at the beginning of the
 installation:
 This kernel requires the following features not present on the cpu pae
 Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU
 I undeerstand that perhaps the computer processor is too old.
 But is there a patch to overpass this problem?

You need to have a cpu that has a hardware visor. Otherwise, the only 
other option will be qemu which is slow.
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Re: [CentOS] cent0s-6 and virtualbox

2011-07-17 Thread Steve Clark

On 07/17/2011 09:32 PM, Christopher Chan wrote:

On Monday, July 18, 2011 01:52 AM, Michel Donais wrote:

I want to get a look at Cents-6
The computer is a portable Thinkpad T-42
The base OS is Windows XP Professionnal
I tried to use both Microsoft Virtual PC and Oracle Virtual Box with the
same result
I boot from the CD (wich have been burned from an ISO downloaded from a
Centos -6 repo).
The version is CentOS-6.0-i386-bin-DVD.iso
With each virtual machine I get this result at the beginning of the
installation:
This kernel requires the following features not present on the cpu pae
Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU
I undeerstand that perhaps the computer processor is too old.
But is there a patch to overpass this problem?

You need to have a cpu that has a hardware visor. Otherwise, the only
other option will be qemu which is slow.
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In virtualbox click the option under cpu that it has PAE.

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Re: [CentOS] cent0s-6 and virtualbox

2011-07-17 Thread Christopher Chan
On Monday, July 18, 2011 09:32 AM, Christopher Chan wrote:
 On Monday, July 18, 2011 01:52 AM, Michel Donais wrote:
 I want to get a look at Cents-6
 The computer is a portable Thinkpad T-42
 The base OS is Windows XP Professionnal
 I tried to use both Microsoft Virtual PC and Oracle Virtual Box with the
 same result
 I boot from the CD (wich have been burned from an ISO downloaded from a
 Centos -6 repo).
 The version is CentOS-6.0-i386-bin-DVD.iso
 With each virtual machine I get this result at the beginning of the
 installation:
 This kernel requires the following features not present on the cpu pae
 Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU
 I undeerstand that perhaps the computer processor is too old.
 But is there a patch to overpass this problem?

 You need to have a cpu that has a hardware visor. Otherwise, the only
 other option will be qemu which is slow.

Oops, taking that back, virtualbox is not like kvm or xen. It looks like 
that it does not need a hardware hypervisor.
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Re: [CentOS] cent0s-6 and virtualbox

2011-07-17 Thread Scott Robbins
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 09:51:42AM +0800, Christopher Chan wrote:


 On Monday, July 18, 2011 09:32 AM, Christopher Chan wrote:
  On Monday, July 18, 2011 01:52 AM, Michel Donais wrote:


  The version is CentOS-6.0-i386-bin-DVD.iso
  With each virtual machine I get this result at the beginning of the
  installation:
  This kernel requires the following features not present on the cpu pae
  Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU
  I undeerstand that perhaps the computer processor is too old.
  But is there a patch to overpass this problem?

Hrrm, seems as if the ISO may be using a PAE kernel by default.  PAE is
a kernel that will be able to make use of more than 4GB of RAM with
i686.  

Ah, I see it's apparently a decision by RH.  I assume there's some logic
in it, though I don't know what it is. 


http://jp.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=26352forum=14


See if it's possible to add
PAE to the machine settings in VirtualBox.   Settings=System=Processor

There's a checkbox for PAE.  Try checking that off and seeing if it
helps.



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Re: [CentOS] cent0s-6 and virtualbox

2011-07-17 Thread Michel Donais
 Hrrm, seems as if the ISO may be using a PAE kernel by default.  PAE is
 a kernel that will be able to make use of more than 4GB of RAM with
 i686.

 Ah, I see it's apparently a decision by RH.  I assume there's some logic
 in it, though I don't know what it is.


 http://jp.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=26352forum=14


 See if it's possible to add
 PAE to the machine settings in VirtualBox.   Settings=System=Processor

The box is already checked but the CPU doesn't have PAE capability so it's 
useless.

It won't be a bad thing thatthe install may do a choice of a cpu with or not 
the capability of PAE as it was in the past.


---
Michel Donais 

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