Re: [CentOS] owncloud on CentOS - I have problems installing/updating recently

[Nicolas Kovacs]

Le 22/09/2017 à 12:14, James Hogarth a écrit :
> I know that many prefer EPEL packages but sometimes life gets ahead of us...
> 
> So far as owncloud in EPEL/CentOS is concerned it's not actually lagging
> that badly ... the most recent 9.1.X release is 9.1.6 and it's only a few
> minor bugfixes for the large part over the 9.1.5 in the EPEL repo.

I was only referring to the OwnCloud client package, for which I prefer
the OwnCloud repository.

For the server, I'm always doing manual installations, because it's more
flexible that way.

https://blog.microlinux.fr/owncloud-centos/

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Re: [CentOS] owncloud on CentOS - I have problems installing/updating recently

[Nicolas Kovacs]

Le 21/09/2017 à 20:06, Johnny Hughes a écrit :
> Well, it must be noted that they do have to work with things in RHEL ..
> I have not looked if they are using SCLs.  If not, they can't move to
> things that require newer languages, etc.
> 
> So sometimes, they have to lag.

As far as I can tell, the main thing they had to deal with recently was
the transition to Qt5. So far they managed it well, since all the
dependencies are in some extra packages in their repo.

$ rpm -qa | grep ocqt
ocqt562-libqt5-qtwebkit-5.6.2-11.3.x86_64
ocqt562-libQt5Widgets5-5.6.2-22.1.x86_64
ocqt562-libQt5Concurrent5-5.6.2-22.1.x86_64
ocqt562-libQt5Gui5-5.6.2-22.1.x86_64
ocqt562-libQt5Core5-5.6.2-22.1.x86_64
ocqt562-qt5keychain1-0.7.0-4.6.x86_64
ocqt562-libQt5DBus5-5.6.2-22.1.x86_64
ocqt562-libQt5Xml5-5.6.2-22.1.x86_64
ocqt562-libQt5Sql5-5.6.2-22.1.x86_64
ocqt562-libQt5PrintSupport5-5.6.2-22.1.x86_64
ocqt562-libQt5Network5-5.6.2-22.1.x86_64

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Re: [CentOS] owncloud on CentOS - I have problems installing/updating recently

[Sorin Srbu]

> -Original Message-
> From: CentOS [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of James
> Hogarth
> Sent: den 22 september 2017 12:14
> To: CentOS mailing list <centos@centos.org>
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] owncloud on CentOS - I have problems
> installing/updating recently
> 
>> I know that many prefer EPEL packages but sometimes life gets ahead of
us...
> 
> So far as owncloud in EPEL/CentOS is concerned it's not actually lagging
> that badly ... the most recent 9.1.X release is 9.1.6 and it's only a few
> minor bugfixes for the large part over the 9.1.5 in the EPEL repo.
> 
> https://owncloud.org/changelog/
> 
> Do note that when I push 9.1.6 (which will be soon now I have a little
> time) it'll probably be close to the last owncloud package in EPEL7 at the
> least ... I'll include an EOL/retirement notice in the package when I get
> around to it and will mail here and epel-devel and epel-announce mailing
> lists.
> 
> The 10.x release of owncloud bumps the minimum PHP version to 5.6 ...
> which
> is obviously not in base repos and I'm not permitted to depend on packages
> in SCL or 3rd party repos in EPEL.
> 
> The nextcloud package is in a worse state as things stand ... the version
> that can be in EPEL is officially EOL ... I'll push out a 10.0.6 release
> soon with the EOL notice and email about this. From 11 onwards they
require
> PHP5.6+ as well.
> 
> For now my recommendation for owncloud or nextcloud is to use their most
> recent manual tarball/zip install and PHP 7.1 from your preferred choice
of
> IUS, RemiRepo or SCL ... or run their official containers.
> 
> I hope to have a container option soon(ish) as part of the Fedora
Container
> Service initiative that would allow you to run the Fedora based version
> easily, which would bypass the PHP version issues but that needs me to
> have time to get all the dependency issues sorted and carry out the Fedora
> upgrades.
> 
> Reminder that I have a job and family and 2 year old daughter ... time to
> do all this is precious and if you want to see this happen then help is
> always welcome :)
> 
> James


Just to make sure, I in no way complain about how things are with EPEL. I'm
happy as is.

Take your time with the family, they are indeed precious. 
Failed OC and php installs and tests on the end-user side can be redone. :-)

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Re: [CentOS] owncloud on CentOS - I have problems installing/updating recently

[James Hogarth]

On 22 September 2017 at 06:28, Sorin Srbu <sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se> wrote:

> > -Original Message-
> > From: CentOS [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Valeri
> > Galtsev
> > Sent: den 21 september 2017 17:25
> > To: CentOS mailing list <centos@centos.org>
> > Subject: Re: [CentOS] owncloud on CentOS - I have problems
> > installing/updating recently
> >
> >
> > On Thu, September 21, 2017 1:00 am, Sorin Srbu wrote:
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: CentOS [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Nicolas
> > >> Kovacs
> > >> Sent: den 20 september 2017 18:55
> > >> To: centos@centos.org
> > >> Subject: Re: [CentOS] owncloud on CentOS - I have problems
> > >> installing/updating recently
> > >>
> > >> > Does anybody have any suggestion? Am I the only one (thus, making my
> > >> > "pilot error"), or others have the same? Did someone find
> workaround?
> > >>
> > >> The SUSE repository works perfectly. There has been a transition
> period
> > >> with overlapping dependencies in this repository and EPEL. What I did
> > >> was simply remove all packages and reinstall the owncloud-client
> > >> package. This repository is also always up-to-date, whereas the EPEL
> > >> package is regularly lagging behind.
> > >
> > > Not just you Valeri. Thought it was a bit fishy as well, but figured
> I'd,
> > > as
> > > Nicolas mentions, doing a uninstall and then reinstall things might
> solve
> > > the
> > > problems.
> > >
> >
> > Thanks Nicolas and Sorin! Once I learned from you about another source of
> > owncloud packages (EPEL), I found my way out of suse repository timing
> out
> > on me...
> >
> > Valeri
>
> You're welcome.
>
> I also use the yum-priorities plugin. I find it sometimes plays tricks on
> me.
> You might want to look into that and shuffle the set priorities, if you use
> it as well
>
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I know that many prefer EPEL packages but sometimes life gets ahead of us...

So far as owncloud in EPEL/CentOS is concerned it's not actually lagging
that badly ... the most recent 9.1.X release is 9.1.6 and it's only a few
minor bugfixes for the large part over the 9.1.5 in the EPEL repo.

https://owncloud.org/changelog/

Do note that when I push 9.1.6 (which will be soon now I have a little
time) it'll probably be close to the last owncloud package in EPEL7 at the
least ... I'll include an EOL/retirement notice in the package when I get
around to it and will mail here and epel-devel and epel-announce mailing
lists.

The 10.x release of owncloud bumps the minimum PHP version to 5.6 ... which
is obviously not in base repos and I'm not permitted to depend on packages
in SCL or 3rd party repos in EPEL.

The nextcloud package is in a worse state as things stand ... the version
that can be in EPEL is officially EOL ... I'll push out a 10.0.6 release
soon with the EOL notice and email about this. From 11 onwards they require
PHP5.6+ as well.

For now my recommendation for owncloud or nextcloud is to use their most
recent manual tarball/zip install and PHP 7.1 from your preferred choice of
IUS, RemiRepo or SCL ... or run their official containers.

I hope to have a container option soon(ish) as part of the Fedora Container
Service initiative that would allow you to run the Fedora based version
easily, which would bypass the PHP version issues but that needs me to
have time to get all the dependency issues sorted and carry out the Fedora
upgrades.

Reminder that I have a job and family and 2 year old daughter ... time to
do all this is precious and if you want to see this happen then help is
always welcome :)

James
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Re: [CentOS] owncloud on CentOS - I have problems installing/updating recently

[Sorin Srbu]

> -Original Message-
> From: CentOS [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Valeri
> Galtsev
> Sent: den 21 september 2017 17:25
> To: CentOS mailing list <centos@centos.org>
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] owncloud on CentOS - I have problems
> installing/updating recently
> 
> 
> On Thu, September 21, 2017 1:00 am, Sorin Srbu wrote:
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: CentOS [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Nicolas
> >> Kovacs
> >> Sent: den 20 september 2017 18:55
> >> To: centos@centos.org
> >> Subject: Re: [CentOS] owncloud on CentOS - I have problems
> >> installing/updating recently
> >>
> >> > Does anybody have any suggestion? Am I the only one (thus, making my
> >> > "pilot error"), or others have the same? Did someone find workaround?
> >>
> >> The SUSE repository works perfectly. There has been a transition period
> >> with overlapping dependencies in this repository and EPEL. What I did
> >> was simply remove all packages and reinstall the owncloud-client
> >> package. This repository is also always up-to-date, whereas the EPEL
> >> package is regularly lagging behind.
> >
> > Not just you Valeri. Thought it was a bit fishy as well, but figured
I'd,
> > as
> > Nicolas mentions, doing a uninstall and then reinstall things might
solve
> > the
> > problems.
> >
> 
> Thanks Nicolas and Sorin! Once I learned from you about another source of
> owncloud packages (EPEL), I found my way out of suse repository timing out
> on me...
> 
> Valeri

You're welcome.

I also use the yum-priorities plugin. I find it sometimes plays tricks on
me.
You might want to look into that and shuffle the set priorities, if you use
it as well

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Re: [CentOS] owncloud on CentOS - I have problems installing/updating recently

[Leon Fauster]

> Am 21.09.2017 um 20:06 schrieb Johnny Hughes :
> 
> On 09/21/2017 12:51 PM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
>> Le 21/09/2017 à 17:24, Valeri Galtsev a écrit :
>>> Thanks Nicolas and Sorin! Once I learned from you about another source of
>>> owncloud packages (EPEL), I found my way out of suse repository timing out
>>> on me...
>> 
>> As I said in a previous post, the EPEL OwnCloud client packages are
>> lagging behind a bit, but so far, the only inconvenience are the nagging
>> update notifications on startup.
>> 
> 
> Well, it must be noted that they do have to work with things in RHEL ..
> I have not looked if they are using SCLs.  If not, they can't move to
> things that require newer languages, etc.
> 
> So sometimes, they have to lag.


https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/epel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org/2016/4/

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/epel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/EQFCT3DDST455PLPGBAB4ZKPZF4HQRJR/

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Re: [CentOS] owncloud on CentOS - I have problems installing/updating recently

[Valeri Galtsev]

On Thu, September 21, 2017 1:06 pm, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 09/21/2017 12:51 PM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
>> Le 21/09/2017 à 17:24, Valeri Galtsev a écrit :
>>> Thanks Nicolas and Sorin! Once I learned from you about another source
>>> of
>>> owncloud packages (EPEL), I found my way out of suse repository timing
>>> out
>>> on me...
>>
>> As I said in a previous post, the EPEL OwnCloud client packages are
>> lagging behind a bit, but so far, the only inconvenience are the nagging
>> update notifications on startup.
>>
>
> Well, it must be noted that they do have to work with things in RHEL ..
> I have not looked if they are using SCLs.  If not, they can't move to
> things that require newer languages, etc.
>
> So sometimes, they have to lag.
>

And my thanks again to everybody who answered. The World started making
sense (as far as owncloud is concerned) again for me ;-)

Valeri


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Re: [CentOS] owncloud on CentOS - I have problems installing/updating recently

[Johnny Hughes]

On 09/21/2017 12:51 PM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
> Le 21/09/2017 à 17:24, Valeri Galtsev a écrit :
>> Thanks Nicolas and Sorin! Once I learned from you about another source of
>> owncloud packages (EPEL), I found my way out of suse repository timing out
>> on me...
> 
> As I said in a previous post, the EPEL OwnCloud client packages are
> lagging behind a bit, but so far, the only inconvenience are the nagging
> update notifications on startup.
> 

Well, it must be noted that they do have to work with things in RHEL ..
I have not looked if they are using SCLs.  If not, they can't move to
things that require newer languages, etc.

So sometimes, they have to lag.





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Re: [CentOS] owncloud on CentOS - I have problems installing/updating recently

[Nicolas Kovacs]

Le 21/09/2017 à 17:24, Valeri Galtsev a écrit :
> Thanks Nicolas and Sorin! Once I learned from you about another source of
> owncloud packages (EPEL), I found my way out of suse repository timing out
> on me...

As I said in a previous post, the EPEL OwnCloud client packages are
lagging behind a bit, but so far, the only inconvenience are the nagging
update notifications on startup.

Cheers,

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Re: [CentOS] owncloud on CentOS - I have problems installing/updating recently

[Valeri Galtsev]

On Thu, September 21, 2017 1:00 am, Sorin Srbu wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: CentOS [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Nicolas
>> Kovacs
>> Sent: den 20 september 2017 18:55
>> To: centos@centos.org
>> Subject: Re: [CentOS] owncloud on CentOS - I have problems
>> installing/updating recently
>>
>> > Does anybody have any suggestion? Am I the only one (thus, making my
>> > "pilot error"), or others have the same? Did someone find workaround?
>>
>> The SUSE repository works perfectly. There has been a transition period
>> with overlapping dependencies in this repository and EPEL. What I did
>> was simply remove all packages and reinstall the owncloud-client
>> package. This repository is also always up-to-date, whereas the EPEL
>> package is regularly lagging behind.
>
> Not just you Valeri. Thought it was a bit fishy as well, but figured I'd,
> as
> Nicolas mentions, doing a uninstall and then reinstall things might solve
> the
> problems.
>

Thanks Nicolas and Sorin! Once I learned from you about another source of
owncloud packages (EPEL), I found my way out of suse repository timing out
on me...

Valeri

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Re: [CentOS] owncloud on CentOS - I have problems installing/updating recently

[Sorin Srbu]

> -Original Message-
> From: CentOS [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Nicolas
> Kovacs
> Sent: den 20 september 2017 18:55
> To: centos@centos.org
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] owncloud on CentOS - I have problems
> installing/updating recently
>
> > Does anybody have any suggestion? Am I the only one (thus, making my
> > "pilot error"), or others have the same? Did someone find workaround?
>
> The SUSE repository works perfectly. There has been a transition period
> with overlapping dependencies in this repository and EPEL. What I did
> was simply remove all packages and reinstall the owncloud-client
> package. This repository is also always up-to-date, whereas the EPEL
> package is regularly lagging behind.

Not just you Valeri. Thought it was a bit fishy as well, but figured I'd, as 
Nicolas mentions, doing a uninstall and then reinstall things might solve the 
problems.


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Re: [CentOS] owncloud on CentOS - I have problems installing/updating recently

[Nicolas Kovacs]

Le 20/09/2017 à 18:18, Valeri Galtsev a écrit :
> after quite some time of praising ownclowd, I started having problems with
> installing and updating desktop owncloud-client on CentOS. Namely, yum
> repository owncloud.org points to for rpm/yum based Linux distributions
> lives on suse.com site (well, for all flavors of Linux, actually). I
> remember it smelled fishy for me the first time I installed ownclouud on
> CentOS using that repository living at suse.com. It worked, however, for
> quite some time, but recently it just times out for me, even what
> owncloud.org currently gives as yum.repo information (which has changed
> from what was in the past).
> 
> Does anybody have any suggestion? Am I the only one (thus, making my
> "pilot error"), or others have the same? Did someone find workaround?

Hi Valeri,

I'm using OwnCloud client on my workstation and my server, both running
CentOS 7 with KDE.

I wrote a little blog article (in French) about installing and
configuring OwnCloud.

https://blog.microlinux.fr/owncloud-centos-kde/

The SUSE repository works perfectly. There has been a transition period
with overlapping dependencies in this repository and EPEL. What I did
was simply remove all packages and reinstall the owncloud-client
package. This repository is also always up-to-date, whereas the EPEL
package is regularly lagging behind.

Cheers,

Niki

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[CentOS] owncloud on CentOS - I have problems installing/updating recently

[Valeri Galtsev]

Dear Experts,

after quite some time of praising ownclowd, I started having problems with
installing and updating desktop owncloud-client on CentOS. Namely, yum
repository owncloud.org points to for rpm/yum based Linux distributions
lives on suse.com site (well, for all flavors of Linux, actually). I
remember it smelled fishy for me the first time I installed ownclouud on
CentOS using that repository living at suse.com. It worked, however, for
quite some time, but recently it just times out for me, even what
owncloud.org currently gives as yum.repo information (which has changed
from what was in the past).

Does anybody have any suggestion? Am I the only one (thus, making my
"pilot error"), or others have the same? Did someone find workaround?

Incidentally, another system - FreeBSD - I run on my laptop and
workstation, has no trouble with owncloudclient package. But I have to
give graduate students Linux, and prefer CentOS Linux, so I do need to
make it work even if I end up compiling it all the time myself (sigh, I
hope, not).


Thanks a lot in advance for all your help!

Valeri


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