Re: [CentOS] the ongoing wait for centos 5.4

2009-10-19 Thread CentOS List
   i've checked a couple dozen random mirrors, and have yet to find
 it. i'm almost tempted to ask, any idea on when 5.4 will be
 available?, but i just *know* that would get me in trouble.

If you had try harder and try them all, you should be able to find these
mirrors with 5.4 in them.

http://centos.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/centos/5.4/
http://mirror.highspeedweb.net/CentOS/5.4/
http://mirror.sanctuaryhost.com/centos/5.4/isos/
http://mirror.fdcservers.net/centos/5.4/isos/
 



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Re: [CentOS] the ongoing wait for centos 5.4

2009-10-19 Thread John R. Dennison
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 02:06:58PM +0800, CentOS List wrote:
 
 If you had try harder and try them all, you should be able to find these
 mirrors with 5.4 in them.
 
 http://centos.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/centos/5.4/
 http://mirror.highspeedweb.net/CentOS/5.4/
 http://mirror.sanctuaryhost.com/centos/5.4/isos/
 http://mirror.fdcservers.net/centos/5.4/isos/

If you would try harder you'd notice that at least two of these
are incomplete.





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Re: [CentOS] the ongoing wait for centos 5.4

2009-10-19 Thread Mathieu Baudier
Hi,

I could download from the following torrents:
http://sunsite.rediris.es/mirror/CentOS/5.4/isos/x86_64/CentOS-5.4-x86_64-bin-DVD.torrent
http://sunsite.rediris.es/mirror/CentOS/5.4/isos/i386/CentOS-5.4-i386-bin-DVD.torrent

The download was very quick, maybe because I'm now on business trip in
London, where I believe there is a strong CentOS community.

I installed the x86_64 in a virtual machine (KVM on Fedora 11 x86_64)
and did the media check.

I'm now seeding (reasonably) from the overpriced internet connection
in the hotel room :)

Many many thanks to the CentOS developers and the community,

Mathieu

On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 07:18, John R. Dennison j...@gerdesas.com wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 02:06:58PM +0800, CentOS List wrote:

 If you had try harder and try them all, you should be able to find these
 mirrors with 5.4 in them.

 http://centos.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/centos/5.4/
 http://mirror.highspeedweb.net/CentOS/5.4/
 http://mirror.sanctuaryhost.com/centos/5.4/isos/
 http://mirror.fdcservers.net/centos/5.4/isos/

        If you would try harder you'd notice that at least two of these
        are incomplete.





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Re: [CentOS] the ongoing wait for centos 5.4

2009-10-19 Thread Joseph L. Casale
If I use BitTorrent to download the DVD image from
tracker.centos.org, I assume the file has to be complete
or could it still be missing something?

I fetched my dvd's yesterday via bittorrent perfectly fine...
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[CentOS] the ongoing wait for centos 5.4

2009-10-18 Thread Robert P. J. Day

  at the risk of picking at that scab a bit longer, i'm going to toss
out a comment regarding people still waiting for the public
availability of centos 5.4.

  here:

http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2009-October/083743.html

we read:

The last status (from twitter) is 2 days old with the '5.4 is baked!
centos internal network will start syncing up today. Release ~ soon!'.
Any ETA?

followed by the response:

Just relax and wait, this is a _volunteer_ based project. Want a
release date? Go pay for RHEL.

  not to put too find a point on it, but that reply is more than a bit
dickish.  it doesn't *matter* if it's a volunteer project.  as i see
this, this is turning into an issue of credibility.

  once someone posts that the 5.4 release is allegedly baked and
syncing is beginning, then it's not unreasonable that people will
start getting anxious to see it hit the mirrors.  and as the days go
by, it's not unreasonable for those people to start wondering what the
heck is going on.

  again, whether people are being paid to do any of this work is not
relevant.  it's important, from the perspective of reputation, that
everyone see the centos project as being efficiently and competently
run, and making what *appears* to be an announcement of completion and
the beginning of syncing servers, followed by days of awkward silence
and increasingly defensive rhetoric, is not the way to do it.  it just
looks bad.

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Re: [CentOS] the ongoing wait for centos 5.4

2009-10-18 Thread Ron Blizzard
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 2:54 AM, Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote:

  again, whether people are being paid to do any of this work is not
 relevant.  it's important, from the perspective of reputation, that
 everyone see the centos project as being efficiently and competently
 run, and making what *appears* to be an announcement of completion and
 the beginning of syncing servers, followed by days of awkward silence
 and increasingly defensive rhetoric, is not the way to do it.  it just
 looks bad.

Agreed. The best policy would be to simply say -- It'll be done when
it's done. Of course they tried that originally, and that's wasn't
acceptable either.

Here's the way I'm going to take care of the problem. Figure eight
weeks out for CentOS from the time Red Hat is released. If it gets
done quicker than that, I've got a bonus.!

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Re: [CentOS] the ongoing wait for centos 5.4

2009-10-18 Thread Robert P. J. Day

  amusingly, only 41 minutes ago, this from centos twitter:

we ran into a few issues on internal centos.org machines - all
resolved now :) we should start seeding to external mirrors shortly

and *that's* what i was talking about -- we just want to be kept
informed.  thanks.

rday
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Re: [CentOS] the ongoing wait for centos 5.4

2009-10-18 Thread Ian Murray
 
 Here's the way I'm going to take care of the problem. Figure eight
 weeks out for CentOS from the time Red Hat is released. If it gets
 done quicker than that, I've got a bonus.!

...and ignore any announcements in the meantime, as they may be red-herrings? 
Take a I'll believe it when I see it attitude?

That is the logical direction to take, but I must say it doesn't sound too good 
when I read it back.



  
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Re: [CentOS] the ongoing wait for centos 5.4

2009-10-18 Thread Jim Wildman
On Sun, 18 Oct 2009, Robert P. J. Day wrote:


  at the risk of picking at that scab a bit longer, i'm going to toss
 out a comment regarding people still waiting for the public
 availability of centos 5.4.

  here:

 http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2009-October/083743.html

About ten minutes after your email, I got one from our local computer
shop.

Windows 7 coming soon!!!
no date.  no reason.  Just churn.


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Re: [CentOS] the ongoing wait for centos 5.4

2009-10-18 Thread CentOS List

  at the risk of picking at that scab a bit longer, i'm going to toss
 out a comment regarding people still waiting for the public
 availability of centos 5.4.

  here:

 http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2009-October/083743.html

About ten minutes after your email, I got one from our local computer
shop.

 Windows 7 coming soon!!!
 no date.  no reason.  Just churn.

Windows 7 will be out on the 22nd Oct 2009. Your local computer
Shop did not try hard enough to find this out? 

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Re: [CentOS] the ongoing wait for centos 5.4

2009-10-18 Thread Drew
 Windows 7 coming soon!!!
 no date.  no reason.  Just churn.

 Windows 7 will be out on the 22nd Oct 2009. Your local computer
 Shop did not try hard enough to find this out?

I think the store's aim was to generate a Cool. When? response from
clients to draw them into the store so a sales rep could schmooze more
money out of the client. :) Future Shop, a large Canadian electronics
retailer, does this all the time.


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Re: [CentOS] the ongoing wait for centos 5.4

2009-10-18 Thread Miguel Medalha
I am burning the DVD ISO image to disk right now. It is available from 
some mirrors.
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Re: [CentOS] the ongoing wait for centos 5.4

2009-10-18 Thread Tru Huynh
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 09:48:46PM +0100, Miguel Medalha wrote:
 I am burning the DVD ISO image to disk right now. It is available from 
 some mirrors.

which are mostly incomplete... maybe some isos are ok but even the centos.org 
machines are not yet in sync...

I would strongly suggest that you wait for the actual announcements, but ymmv.

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Re: [CentOS] the ongoing wait for centos 5.4

2009-10-18 Thread Miguel Medalha
The checksum files are also there. SHA and MD5.
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Re: [CentOS] the ongoing wait for centos 5.4

2009-10-18 Thread Miguel Medalha

 I would strongly suggest that you wait for the actual announcements, but ymmv.
   

I noticed that the mirrors that don't have the images complete don't 
even allow you to enter the 5.4 directory.
This particular one does and the checksum files check OK.
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Re: [CentOS] the ongoing wait for centos 5.4

2009-10-18 Thread Ian Murray
Irrespective of the discussions about the release procedure and visibility, 
etc, I'd like to thank everyone that put effort into making the CentOS 5.4 
release happen..

I know I won't be alone in wishing to express thanks.



  
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Re: [CentOS] the ongoing wait for centos 5.4

2009-10-18 Thread Neil Aggarwal
 I am burning the DVD ISO image to disk right now. It is available from 
 some mirrors.
which are mostly incomplete... maybe some isos are ok but even the
centos.org 
machines are not yet in sync...
I would strongly suggest that you wait for the actual announcements, but
ymmv.

This leads me to a question:

If I use BitTorrent to download the DVD image from
tracker.centos.org, I assume the file has to be complete
or could it still be missing something?

Thanks,
Neil

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Re: [CentOS] the ongoing wait for centos 5.4

2009-10-18 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Sun, 18 Oct 2009, Miguel Medalha wrote:

 I am burning the DVD ISO image to disk right now. It is available
 from some mirrors.

  i've checked a couple dozen random mirrors, and have yet to find it.
i'm almost tempted to ask, any idea on when 5.4 will be available?,
but i just *know* that would get me in trouble.

rday
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Re: [CentOS] the ongoing wait for centos 5.4

2009-10-18 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, Robert P. J. Day wrote:

 On Sun, 18 Oct 2009, Miguel Medalha wrote:

  I am burning the DVD ISO image to disk right now. It is available
  from some mirrors.

   i've checked a couple dozen random mirrors, and have yet to find
 it. i'm almost tempted to ask, any idea on when 5.4 will be
 available?, but i just *know* that would get me in trouble.

  i'm going to echo an earlier sentiment and say that, as much as i
grouse about this release confusion and frustration, i appreciate the
efforts of the centos folks and maybe i should stop grousing and
volunteer to help out.

  just FYI, my impatience at getting my hands on 5.4 is based on the
fact that i'm scheduled to teach a small class next month on RHEL, and
the students are indifferent as to whether it's actual RHEL or centos,
and they're also good with it being 5.3 or 5.4, so i was hoping to get
centos 5.4 ASAP and play with it just to make sure i'm comfortable
with the changes.

  if i teach off of 5.3, it's not a big deal, but 5.4 would just be a
bit more fun.

rday
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