Re: [CentOS] thunderbird & firefox

2019-01-04 Thread Leroy Tennison
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [CentOS] thunderbird & firefox

Alice Wonder wrote:
> On 1/4/19 8:28 AM, mark wrote:
>
>> I *really* dislike the new photon UI. I WANT the arrow buttons top and
>> bottom of the scrollbars.
>>
>> Does anyone know how to bring them back, or is that "that's *sooo* last
>>  year, you can't ever have them again"?
>>
> Switch to Mate and they are there.

I used to like IceWM... but I'm at work and people run either kde or
gnome, so I've got to support them.

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Re: [CentOS] thunderbird & firefox

2019-01-04 Thread mark
Alice Wonder wrote:
> On 1/4/19 8:28 AM, mark wrote:
>
>> I *really* dislike the new photon UI. I WANT the arrow buttons top and
>> bottom of the scrollbars.
>>
>> Does anyone know how to bring them back, or is that "that's *sooo* last
>>  year, you can't ever have them again"?
>>
> Switch to Mate and they are there.

I used to like IceWM... but I'm at work and people run either kde or
gnome, so I've got to support them.

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Re: [CentOS] thunderbird & firefox

2019-01-04 Thread Alice Wonder

On 1/4/19 8:28 AM, mark wrote:

I *really* dislike the new photon UI. I WANT the arrow buttons top and
bottom of the scrollbars.

Does anyone know how to bring them back, or is that "that's *sooo* last
year, you can't ever have them again"?

 mark

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Switch to Mate and they are there.
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Re: [CentOS] thunderbird & firefox

2019-01-04 Thread mark
Bill Gee wrote:
> On Friday, January 4, 2019 10:28:35 AM CST mark wrote:
>
>> I *really* dislike the new photon UI. I WANT the arrow buttons top and
>> bottom of the scrollbars.
>>
>> Does anyone know how to bring them back, or is that "that's *sooo* last
>>  year, you can't ever have them again"?
>>
> Assuming you are talking about GTK-based applications (and I think
> Mozilla apps are that), then edit this file.  On my Fedora 29 system:
>
> ===> ~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css  Add these lines:
>
>
> .scrollbar, scrollbar {
> -GtkScrollbar-has-backward-stepper: true;
> -GtkScrollbar-has-forward-stepper: true;
> }
>
Thank you. I found that online, after I posted, *but* it did *not* have
the ,scrollbar. It also had 1 instead of true, so I changed that, just on
general principles, and it works. Btw, what I found online also had
  -GtkRange-slider-width: 15;
  -GtkRange-stepper-size: 15;
>
> Restart the apps and the arrows should appear.  They are small!  I
> suspect more editing of the .css file can make them larger, but I have
> not managed to find the exact entry.
>
> There is also a way to keep the scroll bars from disappearing when you
> mouse away from them.
>
> ===> /etc/environment  Add this line:
>
> GTK_OVERLAY_SCROLLING=0
>
> You have to logout/login to make this take effect.

Mine don't seem to have that issue 

>
> And last - If slider warping really bothers you (it does me!), you can
> change it with this edit:
>
> ===> ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini
>
> gtk-primary-button-warps-slider=0
>
> With this setting, clicking the the scroll bar above or below the handle
> moves one page instead of warping to the relative position in the
> document.
>
Thanks for that one, Bill. It bothers me as well. Interestingly enough, I
have eight terminals up - they're urxvt, which I prefer, and their
scrollbars and buttons never changed.

 mark

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Re: [CentOS] thunderbird & firefox

2019-01-04 Thread Bill Gee
On Friday, January 4, 2019 10:28:35 AM CST mark wrote:
> I *really* dislike the new photon UI. I WANT the arrow buttons top and
> bottom of the scrollbars.
> 
> Does anyone know how to bring them back, or is that "that's *sooo* last
> year, you can't ever have them again"?
> 
> mark
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Assuming you are talking about GTK-based applications (and I think Mozilla apps 
are that), then edit this file.  On my Fedora 29 system:

===> ~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css  Add these lines:

.scrollbar, scrollbar { 
   -GtkScrollbar-has-backward-stepper: true; 
   -GtkScrollbar-has-forward-stepper: true; 
}

Restart the apps and the arrows should appear.  They are small!  I suspect more 
editing of the .css file can make them larger, but I have not managed to find 
the exact entry.

There is also a way to keep the scroll bars from disappearing when you mouse 
away from them.  

===> /etc/environment  Add this line:

GTK_OVERLAY_SCROLLING=0

You have to logout/login to make this take effect.

And last - If slider warping really bothers you (it does me!), you can change 
it with this edit:

===> ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini

gtk-primary-button-warps-slider=0

With this setting, clicking the the scroll bar above or below the handle moves 
one page instead of warping to the relative position in the document.

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[CentOS] thunderbird & firefox

2019-01-04 Thread mark
I *really* dislike the new photon UI. I WANT the arrow buttons top and
bottom of the scrollbars.

Does anyone know how to bring them back, or is that "that's *sooo* last
year, you can't ever have them again"?

mark

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