Re: [CentOS] upgrade or install to Centos 7.4.1708

2017-09-21 Thread ken 

On 09/19/2017 12:40 PM, Richard wrote:

Date: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 12:32:00 -0400
From: Pete Geenhuizen 

On 09/19/17 11:58, Richard wrote:



Date: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 11:53:24 -0400
From: Pete Geenhuizen 

On 09/19/17 11:44, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

Pete Geenhuizen wrote:

I upgraded from 7.3 to 7.4 over the weekend.  Everything went
well except that I can't login because the screen is black with
a cursor.

If reboot boot the 7.3 kernel 3.10.0-514.26.2.el7.x86_64 kernel
everything works just fine, so my guess is that there's a kernel
issue with the hardware, specifically the Skylake processor.


Video, not the CPU, unless the CPU's also doing video.

   mark, fighting 7.4 and two users who need the 304 NVidia
   drivers



Agreed if I was using an add-on video card, however I'm just using
the no-board video.


I'm using 7.4/Mate on a Dell machine with Skylake i5-7500/Graphics
630, without any issues. I installed 7.3 then did initial updates
via CR, and then the final ones when released the other day. Had to
change my default mate theme (due to gtk2/3 issues) but otherwise
all has been fine.


Hmm I did the same thing other than the Dell and i5-7500, I didn't
use CR but waited for the official release.  I wonder if I'm
experiencing the same theme issue with my mate these  If that is
the what should I look for to verify that gtk2/3 is the issue, or
what theme are you using?

Pete


The mate-gtk2/3 issue effects windows/menus/scrollbars and the like,
not the login screen. See:



for that issue. I switched to the Adwaita theme, as suggested there.



My situation is similar, but different:

After wrestling with it for a half-day, I successfully completed the 
update to 7.4, but as part of that I had to "rpm -e 
gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-1.4.5-6.el7_3.x86_64 cheese totem 
totem-nautilus" so I could "yum update 
gstreamer1-plugins-base-1.10.4-1.el7.x86_64" and reinstall cheese, totem 
and totem-nautilus.  Then I had no sound at all anywhere on the system, 
even in audacity and in vlc, both of which *always* work, even when 
sound doesn't work in firefox and other apps.


Also, I wanted to check my firewall settings prior to rebooting, so 
clicked on "firewalld" in the "Applications" menu.  As soon as I did 
that, at the very moment I did that, my entire screen flashed and 
repainted itself.  But the screen was different.  All the borders on all 
the windows were gone.  Not only that, my touchpad quit working almost 
everywhere.  I can't use the touchpad to focus on a different window, to 
drag-and-move a window, to click on link in firefox, to click on any 
buttons in thunderbird, and much more. It still works in the text areas 
of windows for other things... e.g., I can scroll text up and down 
inside of windows (using standard double-finger drag), but little else.  
I plugged in a USB mouse and it works on everything... everything the 
touchpad used to do.


I mention the firewalld/window-manager/touchpad horkiness because it 
might cast some light on the "mate" issues mentioned above... point to a 
deeper source to the problem.


This has been the weirdest update I've ever done.  Maybe things will 
clear up after I reboot.  I'm hoping.  But thought I'd get that info out 
in case you don't hear from me in a while (when I eventually reboot into 
the new kernel).


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Re: [CentOS] upgrade or install to Centos 7.4.1708

2017-09-20 Thread Pete Geenhuizen 



On 09/20/17 10:41, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:


I upgraded from 7.3 to 7.4 over the weekend.  Everything went well
except that I can't login because the screen is black with a cursor.

If reboot boot the 7.3 kernel 3.10.0-514.26.2.el7.x86_64 kernel
everything works just fine, so my guess is that there's a kernel issue
with the hardware, specifically the Skylake processor.

Has anyone else run into this problem and if so can how I resolve the
problem other than using the previous kernel?

ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.  Z170M-PLUS
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 530 (rev 06)
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6600K CPU @ 3.50GHz Skylake

Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.

Pete



Pete,

I have had various assortment of problems with 7.4 to the point that I
quit upgrading the rest of our PC's with 7.4 until the problems are
identified and fixed.  The only work around that I could come up with is
to use the last 7.3 os which at least made each unit usable.

As you know, most of the time these upgrades have been seamless because
the Centos team has done a wonderful job.  However, the upgrade to 7.4
has some problems, and I decided to stop the upgrade of our remaining
units until 7.4 works as well as 7.3.

Greg

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Greg,
I've done 5 upgrades so far without any issues.  This is the first one 
that has a problem and after some experimenting it looks like the kernel 
is identifying both the analog and digital ports and making the digital 
display the primary.  I use a KVM switch and needless to say it's a 
royal pain to have to switch back and forth to accommodate this one 
host.  Like you I settled on using th3 previous perfectly working 7.3 
kernel, not optimum but it does work.


I've also decided to get a graphics card in lieu of the on-board 
graphics card in the hope that that will solve the issue with the 7.4 
kernel.


Agreed you do get used to these upgrades working seamlessly and it's a 
bummer when occasionally things don't work out exactly as planned.


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Re: [CentOS] upgrade or install to Centos 7.4.1708

2017-09-20 Thread hw 

Gregory P. Ennis wrote:



I upgraded from 7.3 to 7.4 over the weekend.  Everything went well
except that I can't login because the screen is black with a cursor.

If reboot boot the 7.3 kernel 3.10.0-514.26.2.el7.x86_64 kernel
everything works just fine, so my guess is that there's a kernel issue
with the hardware, specifically the Skylake processor.

Has anyone else run into this problem and if so can how I resolve the
problem other than using the previous kernel?


Hm, I didn´t connect a monitor after the upgrade, but I found that
hp-health crashes, and a core dump is created with the new kernel :(
That´s a DL380 with an x5690.

Is HP going to update their software, or is RH going to fix this?


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VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 530 (rev 06)
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6600K CPU @ 3.50GHz Skylake

Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.

Pete



Pete,

I have had various assortment of problems with 7.4 to the point that I
quit upgrading the rest of our PC's with 7.4 until the problems are
identified and fixed.  The only work around that I could come up with is
to use the last 7.3 os which at least made each unit usable.

As you know, most of the time these upgrades have been seamless because
the Centos team has done a wonderful job.  However, the upgrade to 7.4
has some problems, and I decided to stop the upgrade of our remaining
units until 7.4 works as well as 7.3.

Greg

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Re: [CentOS] upgrade or install to Centos 7.4.1708

2017-09-20 Thread Gregory P. Ennis 


I upgraded from 7.3 to 7.4 over the weekend.  Everything went well 
except that I can't login because the screen is black with a cursor.

If reboot boot the 7.3 kernel 3.10.0-514.26.2.el7.x86_64 kernel 
everything works just fine, so my guess is that there's a kernel issue 
with the hardware, specifically the Skylake processor.

Has anyone else run into this problem and if so can how I resolve the 
problem other than using the previous kernel?

ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.  Z170M-PLUS
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 530 (rev 06)
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6600K CPU @ 3.50GHz Skylake

Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.

Pete



Pete,

I have had various assortment of problems with 7.4 to the point that I
quit upgrading the rest of our PC's with 7.4 until the problems are
identified and fixed.  The only work around that I could come up with is
to use the last 7.3 os which at least made each unit usable.

As you know, most of the time these upgrades have been seamless because
the Centos team has done a wonderful job.  However, the upgrade to 7.4
has some problems, and I decided to stop the upgrade of our remaining
units until 7.4 works as well as 7.3.

Greg

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Re: [CentOS] upgrade or install to Centos 7.4.1708

2017-09-19 Thread Fred Smith 
On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 11:18:15AM -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 16:40:52 +
> Richard wrote:
> 
> > The mate-gtk2/3 issue effects windows/menus/scrollbars and the like,
> > not the login screen. See:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > for that issue. I switched to the Adwaita theme, as suggested there.
> 
> Clearlooks-phenix also works fine with the latest C7/Mate and looks more like 
> a "traditional" Gnome 2 desktop.
> 
> yum install clearlooks-phenix-gtk2-theme clearlooks-phenix-gtk3-theme
> 
> Go to the look and feel preferences setting on your desktop and select 
> Clearlooks-phenix from the list.
> 
> And afterward you can
> 
> yum remove mate-themes
> 
> if you want because it's not needed any more.

Hey Frank, thanks for that pointer. I don't particularly care for
the adwaita theme, the phenix theme is much more to my liking.

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Re: [CentOS] upgrade or install to Centos 7.4.1708

2017-09-19 Thread wwp 
Hello Frank,


On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 11:18:15 -0600 Frank Cox  wrote:

> On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 16:40:52 +
> Richard wrote:
> 
> > The mate-gtk2/3 issue effects windows/menus/scrollbars and the like,
> > not the login screen. See:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > for that issue. I switched to the Adwaita theme, as suggested there.  
> 
> Clearlooks-phenix also works fine with the latest C7/Mate and looks more like 
> a "traditional" Gnome 2 desktop.
> 
> yum install clearlooks-phenix-gtk2-theme clearlooks-phenix-gtk3-theme
> 
> Go to the look and feel preferences setting on your desktop and select 
> Clearlooks-phenix from the list.
> 
> And afterward you can
> 
> yum remove mate-themes
> 
> if you want because it's not needed any more.

Interesting.. I could apply it here (C7/mate) and it's true that this
theme works on GTK2/GTK3. BUT customizing colors in Appearance
Preferences in Mate prefs doesn't apply to GTK3 apps.


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Re: [CentOS] upgrade or install to Centos 7.4.1708

2017-09-19 Thread Jonathan Billings 
On Sep 19, 2017, at 11:01 AM, Pete Geenhuizen  wrote:
> I upgraded from 7.3 to 7.4 over the weekend.  Everything went well except 
> that I can't login because the screen is black with a cursor.


The text console (PC console) black screen with an underline cursor, or the X11 
blank console with an X cursor?

If it’s the text console, can you control-alt-F2 to a login prompt?

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Re: [CentOS] upgrade or install to Centos 7.4.1708

2017-09-19 Thread Frank Cox 
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 16:40:52 +
Richard wrote:

> The mate-gtk2/3 issue effects windows/menus/scrollbars and the like,
> not the login screen. See:
> 
> 
> 
> for that issue. I switched to the Adwaita theme, as suggested there.

Clearlooks-phenix also works fine with the latest C7/Mate and looks more like a 
"traditional" Gnome 2 desktop.

yum install clearlooks-phenix-gtk2-theme clearlooks-phenix-gtk3-theme

Go to the look and feel preferences setting on your desktop and select 
Clearlooks-phenix from the list.

And afterward you can

yum remove mate-themes

if you want because it's not needed any more.

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Re: [CentOS] upgrade or install to Centos 7.4.1708

2017-09-19 Thread Richard 

> Date: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 12:32:00 -0400
> From: Pete Geenhuizen 
> 
> On 09/19/17 11:58, Richard wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Date: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 11:53:24 -0400
>>> From: Pete Geenhuizen 
>>> 
>>> On 09/19/17 11:44, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
 Pete Geenhuizen wrote:
> I upgraded from 7.3 to 7.4 over the weekend.  Everything went
> well except that I can't login because the screen is black with
> a cursor.
> 
> If reboot boot the 7.3 kernel 3.10.0-514.26.2.el7.x86_64 kernel
> everything works just fine, so my guess is that there's a kernel
> issue with the hardware, specifically the Skylake processor.
> 
 Video, not the CPU, unless the CPU's also doing video.
 
   mark, fighting 7.4 and two users who need the 304 NVidia
   drivers
 
 
>>> Agreed if I was using an add-on video card, however I'm just using
>>> the no-board video.
>>> 
>> 
>> I'm using 7.4/Mate on a Dell machine with Skylake i5-7500/Graphics
>> 630, without any issues. I installed 7.3 then did initial updates
>> via CR, and then the final ones when released the other day. Had to
>> change my default mate theme (due to gtk2/3 issues) but otherwise
>> all has been fine.
>> 
> Hmm I did the same thing other than the Dell and i5-7500, I didn't
> use CR but waited for the official release.  I wonder if I'm
> experiencing the same theme issue with my mate these  If that is
> the what should I look for to verify that gtk2/3 is the issue, or
> what theme are you using?
> 
> Pete
> 

The mate-gtk2/3 issue effects windows/menus/scrollbars and the like,
not the login screen. See:



for that issue. I switched to the Adwaita theme, as suggested there.



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Re: [CentOS] upgrade or install to Centos 7.4.1708

2017-09-19 Thread Pete Geenhuizen 



On 09/19/17 11:58, Richard wrote:




Date: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 11:53:24 -0400
From: Pete Geenhuizen 

On 09/19/17 11:44, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

Pete Geenhuizen wrote:

I upgraded from 7.3 to 7.4 over the weekend.  Everything went
well except that I can't login because the screen is black with a
cursor.

If reboot boot the 7.3 kernel 3.10.0-514.26.2.el7.x86_64 kernel
everything works just fine, so my guess is that there's a kernel
issue with the hardware, specifically the Skylake processor.


Video, not the CPU, unless the CPU's also doing video.

  mark, fighting 7.4 and two users who need the 304 NVidia
  drivers



Agreed if I was using an add-on video card, however I'm just using
the no-board video.



I'm using 7.4/Mate on a Dell machine with Skylake i5-7500/Graphics
630, without any issues. I installed 7.3 then did initial updates via
CR, and then the final ones when released the other day. Had to
change my default mate theme (due to gtk2/3 issues) but otherwise all
has been fine.

Hmm I did the same thing other than the Dell and i5-7500, I didn't use 
CR but waited for the official release.  I wonder if I'm experiencing 
the same theme issue with my mate these  If that is the what should I 
look for to verify that gtk2/3 is the issue, or what theme are you using?


Pete

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Re: [CentOS] upgrade or install to Centos 7.4.1708

2017-09-19 Thread Richard 



> Date: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 11:53:24 -0400
> From: Pete Geenhuizen 
> 
> On 09/19/17 11:44, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>> Pete Geenhuizen wrote:
>>> I upgraded from 7.3 to 7.4 over the weekend.  Everything went
>>> well except that I can't login because the screen is black with a
>>> cursor.
>>> 
>>> If reboot boot the 7.3 kernel 3.10.0-514.26.2.el7.x86_64 kernel
>>> everything works just fine, so my guess is that there's a kernel
>>> issue with the hardware, specifically the Skylake processor.
>>> 
>> Video, not the CPU, unless the CPU's also doing video.
>> 
>>  mark, fighting 7.4 and two users who need the 304 NVidia
>>  drivers
>> 
>> 
> Agreed if I was using an add-on video card, however I'm just using
> the no-board video.
> 


I'm using 7.4/Mate on a Dell machine with Skylake i5-7500/Graphics
630, without any issues. I installed 7.3 then did initial updates via
CR, and then the final ones when released the other day. Had to
change my default mate theme (due to gtk2/3 issues) but otherwise all
has been fine.





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Re: [CentOS] upgrade or install to Centos 7.4.1708

2017-09-19 Thread Pete Geenhuizen 


On 09/19/17 11:44, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

Pete Geenhuizen wrote:

I upgraded from 7.3 to 7.4 over the weekend.  Everything went well
except that I can't login because the screen is black with a cursor.

If reboot boot the 7.3 kernel 3.10.0-514.26.2.el7.x86_64 kernel
everything works just fine, so my guess is that there's a kernel issue
with the hardware, specifically the Skylake processor.


Video, not the CPU, unless the CPU's also doing video.

 mark, fighting 7.4 and two users who need the 304 NVidia drivers

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Agreed if I was using an add-on video card, however I'm just using the 
no-board video.


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Re: [CentOS] upgrade or install to Centos 7.4.1708

2017-09-19 Thread m . roth 
Pete Geenhuizen wrote:
> I upgraded from 7.3 to 7.4 over the weekend.  Everything went well
> except that I can't login because the screen is black with a cursor.
>
> If reboot boot the 7.3 kernel 3.10.0-514.26.2.el7.x86_64 kernel
> everything works just fine, so my guess is that there's a kernel issue
> with the hardware, specifically the Skylake processor.
>
Video, not the CPU, unless the CPU's also doing video.

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[CentOS] upgrade or install to Centos 7.4.1708

2017-09-19 Thread Pete Geenhuizen 
I upgraded from 7.3 to 7.4 over the weekend.  Everything went well 
except that I can't login because the screen is black with a cursor.


If reboot boot the 7.3 kernel 3.10.0-514.26.2.el7.x86_64 kernel 
everything works just fine, so my guess is that there's a kernel issue 
with the hardware, specifically the Skylake processor.


Has anyone else run into this problem and if so can how I resolve the 
problem other than using the previous kernel?


ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.  Z170M-PLUS
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 530 (rev 06)
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6600K CPU @ 3.50GHz Skylake

Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.

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