Re: [CentOS] Live Cd from custom install

2013-09-03 Thread Xinyun Zhou
On Wed, 2013-09-04 at 08:51 +0530, Rajagopal Swaminathan wrote:
 Greetings,
 
 I have installed Centos 6.4 minimal updated it and added some other
 package such as screen, man, rsync et. al.
 
 Now what is the best method to convert this to an installer CD and
 subsequently a live CD image.
 
 Google confuses me.
 

Maybe you should try to do a search on kickstart live cd, and I think
you may find something useful.

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Re: [CentOS] Live CD iso

2012-12-29 Thread James Freer
On Fri, 28 Dec 2012, John R Pierce wrote:

 On 12/28/2012 3:21 PM, James Freer wrote:
 You mean the bin DVD. Thing is with the DVD they are big for broadband
 download. I think i'd buy one. But i appreciate your advice.

 unless your broadband is metered, or really slow (and then should it be
 called broadband?), 4GB or whatever is really not that big of a deal.  a
 few hours, perhaps.


 One thing i did learn with linux when i first started is that it's
 essential to have a spare PC to test a distro on first - then one can...

 or install it as a VM under VirtualBox or whatever.   Thats certainly
 how *I* test stuff, and indeed, I put 16GB ram into my latest desktop PC
 just so I can run several substantial VMs as needed.

In the UK most broadband providers offer 10GB. After a distro CD, several 
clips on Youtube, probably a fair bit of surfing - i find myself qualifying 
for a reminder on broadband usage! I've got two spare PCs so i've never looked 
at VM and certainly never had a PC capable of taking 16GB RAM. Current PC is 
only about 18 months old so i think i need to shop more carefully next time.

many thanks - i'm off to explore Centos again.

james
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Re: [CentOS] Live CD iso

2012-12-29 Thread John R Pierce
On 12/29/2012 1:54 AM, James Freer wrote:
 I've got two spare PCs so i've never looked
 at VM and certainly never had a PC capable of taking 16GB RAM. Current PC is
 only about 18 months old so i think i need to shop more carefully next time.

the new Intel Core i5 box I built last month can hold 32GB ram (4x8GB), 
I put 2x8GB in it.  CPU is a I5-3570k, motherboard is Z77 based.   16gb 
of fast high grade memory was like US$59

my 2008 vintage Core2Duo box supported 8GB, that was plenty to run a 
2-4GB VM as long as you aren't running /too/ much other stuff on the 
host OS concurrently.   When I bought it, I only put 4GB in it. after 
upgrading my desktop system to the i5,  I took the core2duo, put 8gb in 
it and set it up for my son (a college student), added a SSD as the main 
disk, and wow its fast now.




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Re: [CentOS] Live CD iso

2012-12-29 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 12/29/2012 09:54 AM, James Freer wrote:

 On Fri, 28 Dec 2012, John R Pierce wrote:
 
 On 12/28/2012 3:21 PM, James Freer wrote:
 You mean the bin DVD. Thing is with the DVD they are big for broadband
 download. I think i'd buy one. But i appreciate your advice.

 unless your broadband is metered, or really slow (and then should it be
 called broadband?), 4GB or whatever is really not that big of a deal.  a
 few hours, perhaps.


 One thing i did learn with linux when i first started is that it's
 essential to have a spare PC to test a distro on first - then one can...

 or install it as a VM under VirtualBox or whatever.   Thats certainly
 how *I* test stuff, and indeed, I put 16GB ram into my latest desktop PC
 just so I can run several substantial VMs as needed.
 
 In the UK most broadband providers offer 10GB. After a distro CD, several 
 clips on Youtube, probably a fair bit of surfing - i find myself qualifying 
 for a reminder on broadband usage! I've got two spare PCs so i've never 
 looked 
 at VM and certainly never had a PC capable of taking 16GB RAM. Current PC is 
 only about 18 months old so i think i need to shop more carefully next time.
 
 many thanks - i'm off to explore Centos again.

I'm with BT Infinity in the UK. Unmetered  75 MBps down  15 up.

If servers are your thing, I picked up a Dell Poweredge 860 with 2 x
Dual Core Xeons  8 GB's of RAM for £30 off eBay just before Xmas. You
can, of course, run XWindows on it. It's a tad heavy on the gas (it's
about 285W I think) but it's perfect for VMs.

Have fun!

Cheers,

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Re: [CentOS] Live CD iso

2012-12-29 Thread James Freer

On Sat, 29 Dec 2012, Phil Dobbin wrote:


On 12/29/2012 09:54 AM, James Freer wrote:


On Fri, 28 Dec 2012, John R Pierce wrote:


On 12/28/2012 3:21 PM, James Freer wrote:

You mean the bin DVD. Thing is with the DVD they are big for broadband
download. I think i'd buy one. But i appreciate your advice.


unless your broadband is metered, or really slow (and then should it be
called broadband?), 4GB or whatever is really not that big of a deal.  a
few hours, perhaps.



One thing i did learn with linux when i first started is that it's
essential to have a spare PC to test a distro on first - then one can...


or install it as a VM under VirtualBox or whatever.   Thats certainly
how *I* test stuff, and indeed, I put 16GB ram into my latest desktop PC
just so I can run several substantial VMs as needed.


In the UK most broadband providers offer 10GB. After a distro CD, several
clips on Youtube, probably a fair bit of surfing - i find myself qualifying
for a reminder on broadband usage! I've got two spare PCs so i've never looked
at VM and certainly never had a PC capable of taking 16GB RAM. Current PC is
only about 18 months old so i think i need to shop more carefully next time.

many thanks - i'm off to explore Centos again.




Hi Phil


I'm with BT Infinity in the UK. Unmetered  75 MBps down  15 up.


hmm - i think i need to have a word with BT! But i don't see how you can be 
unmetered and then 75 down and 15 up tbh. Bit more learning and exploring 
necessary. Nice to know someone on the list is fron the UK.



If servers are your thing, I picked up a Dell Poweredge 860 with 2 x
Dual Core Xeons  8 GB's of RAM for £30 off eBay just before Xmas. You
can, of course, run XWindows on it. It's a tad heavy on the gas (it's
about 285W I think) but it's perfect for VMs.


It's something i want to learn about. My hands are rather full copying with my 
mother's Alzheimer's so i don't get enough time. I'll get back to you if that's 
ok maybe with some questions. Our LUG group never meet for 'workshops' so i 
don't have anyone to ask locally. I see you use several distros - Ubuntu 
(im)Precise i've given up on.


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Re: [CentOS] Live CD iso

2012-12-29 Thread Rob Kampen

On 12/29/2012 11:08 PM, John R Pierce wrote:

On 12/29/2012 1:54 AM, James Freer wrote:

I've got two spare PCs so i've never looked
at VM and certainly never had a PC capable of taking 16GB RAM. Current PC is
only about 18 months old so i think i need to shop more carefully next time.

the new Intel Core i5 box I built last month can hold 32GB ram (4x8GB),
I put 2x8GB in it.  CPU is a I5-3570k, motherboard is Z77 based.   16gb
of fast high grade memory was like US$59

my 2008 vintage Core2Duo box supported 8GB, that was plenty to run a
2-4GB VM as long as you aren't running /too/ much other stuff on the
host OS concurrently.   When I bought it, I only put 4GB in it. after
upgrading my desktop system to the i5,  I took the core2duo, put 8gb in
it and set it up for my son (a college student), added a SSD as the main
disk, and wow its fast now.

My most recent laptop, now 12 months old ( an ASUS i7 has 16 Gb of Ram, 
plus a 60Gb SSD for the OS) - I regularly run a VM with 2+Gb of Ram 
assigned, plus develop apps using MySql, php, apache and related systems 
and test these from the VM and the base CentOS 6.3 system under some 
load. As mentioned, RAM is cheap and the benefits of having it available 
are well utilised by CentOS and VMs.



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Re: [CentOS] Live CD iso

2012-12-29 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 12/29/2012 10:46 AM, James Freer wrote:

 On Sat, 29 Dec 2012, Phil Dobbin wrote:
 
 On 12/29/2012 09:54 AM, James Freer wrote:

 On Fri, 28 Dec 2012, John R Pierce wrote:

 On 12/28/2012 3:21 PM, James Freer wrote:
 You mean the bin DVD. Thing is with the DVD they are big for broadband
 download. I think i'd buy one. But i appreciate your advice.

 unless your broadband is metered, or really slow (and then should it be
 called broadband?), 4GB or whatever is really not that big of a
 deal.  a
 few hours, perhaps.


 One thing i did learn with linux when i first started is that it's
 essential to have a spare PC to test a distro on first - then one
 can...

 or install it as a VM under VirtualBox or whatever.   Thats certainly
 how *I* test stuff, and indeed, I put 16GB ram into my latest
 desktop PC
 just so I can run several substantial VMs as needed.

 In the UK most broadband providers offer 10GB. After a distro CD,
 several
 clips on Youtube, probably a fair bit of surfing - i find myself
 qualifying
 for a reminder on broadband usage! I've got two spare PCs so i've
 never looked
 at VM and certainly never had a PC capable of taking 16GB RAM.
 Current PC is
 only about 18 months old so i think i need to shop more carefully
 next time.

 many thanks - i'm off to explore Centos again.

 
 Hi Phil
 
 I'm with BT Infinity in the UK. Unmetered  75 MBps down  15 up.
 
 hmm - i think i need to have a word with BT! But i don't see how you can
 be unmetered and then 75 down and 15 up tbh. Bit more learning and
 exploring necessary. Nice to know someone on the list is fron the UK.
 
 If servers are your thing, I picked up a Dell Poweredge 860 with 2 x
 Dual Core Xeons  8 GB's of RAM for £30 off eBay just before Xmas. You
 can, of course, run XWindows on it. It's a tad heavy on the gas (it's
 about 285W I think) but it's perfect for VMs.
 
 It's something i want to learn about. My hands are rather full copying
 with my mother's Alzheimer's so i don't get enough time. I'll get back
 to you if that's ok maybe with some questions. Our LUG group never meet
 for 'workshops' so i don't have anyone to ask locally. I see you use
 several distros - Ubuntu (im)Precise i've given up on.

If you're with BT Broadband, you can upgrade to Infinity free of charge
(dependent, of course, if it's available in your area)  it's only about
a fiver extra a month on the bill. It's very cheap.

By all means, if you need anything, just email me. No problem.

Cheers,

  Phil...

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Re: [CentOS] Live CD iso

2012-12-29 Thread John R Pierce
On 12/29/2012 2:46 AM, James Freer wrote:
 I'm with BT Infinity in the UK. Unmetered  75 MBps down  15 up.

 hmm - i think i need to have a word with BT! But i don't see how you 
 can be unmetered and then 75 down and 15 up tbh. Bit more learning and 
 exploring necessary. Nice to know someone on the list is fron the UK. 

I believe he meant his SPEEDS are 75Mbit/sec and 15Mbit/sec, not data caps.


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Re: [CentOS] Live CD iso

2012-12-29 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 12/29/2012 09:37 PM, John R Pierce wrote:

 On 12/29/2012 2:46 AM, James Freer wrote:
 I'm with BT Infinity in the UK. Unmetered  75 MBps down  15 up.

 hmm - i think i need to have a word with BT! But i don't see how you 
 can be unmetered and then 75 down and 15 up tbh. Bit more learning and 
 exploring necessary. Nice to know someone on the list is fron the UK. 
 
 I believe he meant his SPEEDS are 75Mbit/sec and 15Mbit/sec, not data caps.

Correct, I do mean speeds. As for data caps, it's advertised as
unlimited  Nagios is telling me I have 17 machines on the local network
 more than a couple of those are heavy hitters  I've never been capped
or emailed to cut it out (I've also got a wife  three kids who game
heavily every night).

True, there is a very minimal throttling that happens sometimes at peak
hours between about 18:00  21:00 very occasionally but it's negligible.

All in all, I'm very, very happy with the service.

Cheers,

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Re: [CentOS] Live CD iso

2012-12-29 Thread Yves Bellefeuille
On Saturday 29 December 2012, James Freer jessejazza3...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 In the UK most broadband providers offer 10GB.

Obviously, I'm not familiar with the market in the UK, but here in 
Canada, many ISPs offer a basic or beginner package with 10 GB or 25 
GB. For a few dollars more, you can have 50 GB, which is obviously worth 
it.

For example, I see that BT's Broadband package costs 13 pounds and 
gives you 10 GB, and that the More Broadband package costs 18 pounds 
and gives you 40 GB.

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Re: [CentOS] Live CD iso

2012-12-29 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 12/30/2012 12:22 AM, Yves Bellefeuille wrote:

 On Saturday 29 December 2012, James Freer jessejazza3...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 In the UK most broadband providers offer 10GB.
 
 Obviously, I'm not familiar with the market in the UK, but here in 
 Canada, many ISPs offer a basic or beginner package with 10 GB or 25 
 GB. For a few dollars more, you can have 50 GB, which is obviously worth 
 it.
 
 For example, I see that BT's Broadband package costs 13 pounds and 
 gives you 10 GB, and that the More Broadband package costs 18 pounds 
 and gives you 40 GB.

Have a look at:

http://www.productsandservices.bt.com/products/broadband/infinity

you'll find the unlimited (i.e. uncapped data) package there along with
speeds of up to 160 MBps down  20 MBps up.

Cheers,

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Re: [CentOS] Live CD iso

2012-12-28 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 12/28/2012 08:28 PM, James Freer wrote:

 Hi folks
 
 I'm just about to start using Centos again. I used it briefly a couple of 
 years 
 ago but found the switch to rpm a bit much after using deb for 5 years. Now 
 there seem to be a lot of changes on the deb front so i'm going to try again 
 with rpm.
 
 I noticed that there is now a live CD (as well as the DVD) instead of the six 
 CDs that i used before (iirc). I would just be grateful if someone could 
 confirm that... i've been an xfce user so i was thinking that i've either got 
 to go back to gnome and load the xfce desktop or use the DVD (and install 
 xfce 
 straight).

Download the netinstall  choose your window manager. Save you a lot of
time.

Cheers,

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Re: [CentOS] Live CD iso

2012-12-28 Thread James Freer
On Fri, 28 Dec 2012, Phil Dobbin wrote:

 On 12/28/2012 08:28 PM, James Freer wrote:

 Hi folks

 I'm just about to start using Centos again. I used it briefly a couple of 
 years
 ago but found the switch to rpm a bit much after using deb for 5 years. Now
 there seem to be a lot of changes on the deb front so i'm going to try again
 with rpm.

 I noticed that there is now a live CD (as well as the DVD) instead of the six
 CDs that i used before (iirc). I would just be grateful if someone could
 confirm that... i've been an xfce user so i was thinking that i've either got
 to go back to gnome and load the xfce desktop or use the DVD (and install 
 xfce
 straight).

 Download the netinstall  choose your window manager. Save you a lot of
 time.

 Cheers,

  Phil...

Ah many thanks. I read about the minimal install and thought that's what i 
could use - thought better of it and chose the liveCD. I wasn't sure about the 
netinstall... but i've found since receiving your email a how-to and it seems 
quite clear.

Seems Centos has changed quite a bit from what i remember. There wasn't a 
liveCD and i installed from 6 CDs... which was a lot of downloading (easier to 
buy the DVD really).

james
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Re: [CentOS] Live CD iso

2012-12-28 Thread Yves Bellefeuille
Phil Dobbin wrote:

 Download the netinstall  choose your window manager. Save you a lot
 of time.

My advice is different: download the regular DVD (not the live DVD)
and use it to install. The first disk is sufficient.

The reason I have a different opinion is because netinstall is too
minimal, especially if you're not familiar with CentOS, and installing
with the live CD or DVD is too inflexible. Use the regular DVD
instead.

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Re: [CentOS] Live CD iso

2012-12-28 Thread James Freer
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Yves Bellefeuille y...@storm.ca wrote:
 Phil Dobbin wrote:

 Download the netinstall  choose your window manager. Save you a lot
 of time.

 My advice is different: download the regular DVD (not the live DVD)
 and use it to install. The first disk is sufficient.

 The reason I have a different opinion is because netinstall is too
 minimal, especially if you're not familiar with CentOS, and installing
 with the live CD or DVD is too inflexible. Use the regular DVD
 instead.

 Yves Bellefeuille

You mean the bin DVD. Thing is with the DVD they are big for broadband
download. I think i'd buy one. But i appreciate your advice.

One thing i did learn with linux when i first started is that it's
essential to have a spare PC to test a distro on first - then one can
use the main PC to email on if in trouble! I'll explore and test
things out over the next few days. I had a good look at many distros 3
years ago and the only one's i liked were *buntu family and Centos.

james
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Re: [CentOS] Live CD iso

2012-12-28 Thread John R Pierce
On 12/28/2012 3:21 PM, James Freer wrote:
 You mean the bin DVD. Thing is with the DVD they are big for broadband
 download. I think i'd buy one. But i appreciate your advice.

unless your broadband is metered, or really slow (and then should it be 
called broadband?), 4GB or whatever is really not that big of a deal.  a 
few hours, perhaps.


 One thing i did learn with linux when i first started is that it's
 essential to have a spare PC to test a distro on first - then one can...

or install it as a VM under VirtualBox or whatever.   Thats certainly 
how *I* test stuff, and indeed, I put 16GB ram into my latest desktop PC 
just so I can run several substantial VMs as needed.



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Re: [CentOS] Live CD boot for KVM guest. How?

2011-10-21 Thread Arun Khan
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Müfit Eribol h...@onart.com.tr wrote:
 Just for learning, could you please provide some more info about booting
 up the LiveCD ISO image (uploaded to the host) to work on a guest? How
 is the command line?


Invoking kvm (qemu-kvm) from the CLI:

kvm \
-boot d \
-cdrom /path/name/to/liveCD/iso/file  \
-drive file=${IMG_FILE},index=0,boot=off \
[other kvm command line options like networking]

where IMG_FILE=/path/to/VM/image/file

I use System Rescue CD for the CD ROM.  It does have XFCE GUI support
+ GParted.  A simple startx fires up a XFCE desktop and voila you can
use the Graphical GParted utility on the VM hard disk.

HTH
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Re: [CentOS] Live CD boot for KVM guest. How?

2011-10-20 Thread Müfit Eribol
On 19.10.2011 21:07, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
 Vreme: 10/19/2011 06:34 PM, Müfit Eribol piše:
 Hi,

 My host and guest are CentOS 6. The guest is going to be a web server in
 production. I am trying to resize (extend) of the base partition of my
 guest.  But I can of course start the installation of CentOS 6 guest all
 over again with a larger image size. However, just for the sake of
 better understanding I an trying to solve things not to be end up in a
 dead end after some years.

 1. I created a guest CentOS 6 with 12G total disk (on a iscsi drive). No
 Desktop, just for terminal use. No LVM, just a simple basic partitioning.
 2. Later I wanted to increase the size of total image to 200G.
 3. I managed to resize the image to 200G on my iscsi drive. So, there is
 188G unallocated/unformatted volume within the guest image.

 Now, the hardest part. I have to resize the partition. I have been
 trying to find a way to do that. A search on Google showed that GParted
 is tool to do that. I had to install all Desktop and X as Gparted is a
 GUI tool. Installed vncserver. Then, I found out that GParted can not
 resize the live guest. So, I downloaded GParted Live CD.

 Now, the questions:

 1. If it was a physical machine I would boot from the CD. If I can boot
 it from host CDROM but then how should I operate on a specific guest?
 What is the easiest way to access GUI of the guest if I boot from Live CD.
 2. I am wondering if a simple LVM route at the beginning would be
 preferred. Changing size of the iscsi volume on my NAS is easy. I
 thought there was no need for more complication, so went with basic
 /boot / and swap partitions. Is resizing partitions for LVM easier than
 basic partitioning (without LVM)?
 3. Is there a specific tool in KVM suit which performs resizing
 partition within the image? Or as I prefer command line tools, is there
 a way to achieve resizing without any graphical tool like GParted? With
 GParted I had to install all the X and Gnome files, vncserver which
 otherwise I don't need.

 I would appreciate any information/hint/experience.

 All the best.
 Hi.

 My view is:

 a) Use LVM so you can manipulate size of partition(s). Resizing etx4
 partitions is horrible job, long and dangerous.

 b) You can mount ISO image file of any CD via Guests VirtualCD, no need
 to mess with physical CD/DVD drives. There is System Rescue CD, CentOS
 LiveCD (I have one 5.3 with mdadm raid support and bunch of tools,I will
 soon be making 6.1 version) or Hiren's Boot CD - Parted. Root partition
 needs offline resize since extX partitions can not be mounted at the
 time of the resizing.

 c) All text-based resize tools require higher knowledge and/or
 experience, like alignment to sectors and similar mambo-jumbo. When you
 need to make it happen on production server without experimentation and
 you have done it only once 3 years ago it IS mambo-jumbo.

 d) As far as I know, KVM can not mount virtual hard drives, so meesing
 with them is not an option, unless you use raw partition on the Host
 (still haven't tried it).


It is good to know at the very beginning that LVM is the way to go. So, 
I am reinstalling the server with LVM. It is good to know about it so early.

Just for learning, could you please provide some more info about booting 
up the LiveCD ISO image (uploaded to the host) to work on a guest? How 
is the command line?

Thank you for your kind help.

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Re: [CentOS] Live CD boot for KVM guest. How?

2011-10-20 Thread Müfit Eribol
On 19.10.2011 23:12, Theo Band wrote:
 On 10/19/2011 08:15 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
 On 10/19/11 9:34 AM, Müfit Eribol wrote:
 My host and guest are CentOS 6. The guest is going to be a web server in
 production. I am trying to resize (extend) of the base partition of my
 guest.  But I can of course start the installation of CentOS 6 guest all
 over again with a larger image size. However, just for the sake of
 better understanding I an trying to solve things not to be end up in a
 dead end after some years.
 rather than resizing the system 'drive', I woudl have simply created
 ANOTHER logical drive mapped to the guest, and create a new file system
 on it, moving the stuff thats filling up your base disk (/home ?
 /var/www ?) to it, then remounting it as the 'new' /home or /var/www or
 whatever
 Agree.
 But if your system disk is now bigger, you can also create a new
 partition (even while the system is live) and use this new partition.
 And I would still use LVM for this new partition. This does not really
 add much complexity. It does add a lot of flexibility. The steps are:

 parted /dev/sda
 mkpart p ext2start  stop

 pvcreate /dev/sda2 (your new second new partition?)
 vgcreate vg /dev/sda2
 lvcreate vg -n test -L 10G
 mkfs.ext4 /dev/vg/test

 The volume group does not need to be assigned completely and leaves some
 room to carve new partitions in the future. Also the snapshot feature
 allows to create consistent backups if needed.

 I even think you can used parted to change you system partition. Simply
 delete the partition and recreate with the exact same starting sector.
 One mistake and you will loose a lot though, so why would you even try?

 Theo

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Re: [CentOS] Live CD boot for KVM guest. How?

2011-10-20 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 10/20/2011 10:22 AM, Müfit Eribol piše:
 On 19.10.2011 21:07, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
 Vreme: 10/19/2011 06:34 PM, Müfit Eribol piše:
 Hi,

 My host and guest are CentOS 6. The guest is going to be a web server in
 production. I am trying to resize (extend) of the base partition of my
 guest.  But I can of course start the installation of CentOS 6 guest all
 over again with a larger image size. However, just for the sake of
 better understanding I an trying to solve things not to be end up in a
 dead end after some years.

 1. I created a guest CentOS 6 with 12G total disk (on a iscsi drive). No
 Desktop, just for terminal use. No LVM, just a simple basic partitioning.
 2. Later I wanted to increase the size of total image to 200G.
 3. I managed to resize the image to 200G on my iscsi drive. So, there is
 188G unallocated/unformatted volume within the guest image.

 Now, the hardest part. I have to resize the partition. I have been
 trying to find a way to do that. A search on Google showed that GParted
 is tool to do that. I had to install all Desktop and X as Gparted is a
 GUI tool. Installed vncserver. Then, I found out that GParted can not
 resize the live guest. So, I downloaded GParted Live CD.

 Now, the questions:

 1. If it was a physical machine I would boot from the CD. If I can boot
 it from host CDROM but then how should I operate on a specific guest?
 What is the easiest way to access GUI of the guest if I boot from Live CD.
 2. I am wondering if a simple LVM route at the beginning would be
 preferred. Changing size of the iscsi volume on my NAS is easy. I
 thought there was no need for more complication, so went with basic
 /boot / and swap partitions. Is resizing partitions for LVM easier than
 basic partitioning (without LVM)?
 3. Is there a specific tool in KVM suit which performs resizing
 partition within the image? Or as I prefer command line tools, is there
 a way to achieve resizing without any graphical tool like GParted? With
 GParted I had to install all the X and Gnome files, vncserver which
 otherwise I don't need.

 I would appreciate any information/hint/experience.

 All the best.
 Hi.

 My view is:

 a) Use LVM so you can manipulate size of partition(s). Resizing etx4
 partitions is horrible job, long and dangerous.

 b) You can mount ISO image file of any CD via Guests VirtualCD, no need
 to mess with physical CD/DVD drives. There is System Rescue CD, CentOS
 LiveCD (I have one 5.3 with mdadm raid support and bunch of tools,I will
 soon be making 6.1 version) or Hiren's Boot CD - Parted. Root partition
 needs offline resize since extX partitions can not be mounted at the
 time of the resizing.

 c) All text-based resize tools require higher knowledge and/or
 experience, like alignment to sectors and similar mambo-jumbo. When you
 need to make it happen on production server without experimentation and
 you have done it only once 3 years ago it IS mambo-jumbo.

 d) As far as I know, KVM can not mount virtual hard drives, so meesing
 with them is not an option, unless you use raw partition on the Host
 (still haven't tried it).


 It is good to know at the very beginning that LVM is the way to go. So,
 I am reinstalling the server with LVM. It is good to know about it so early.

 Just for learning, could you please provide some more info about booting
 up the LiveCD ISO image (uploaded to the host) to work on a guest? How
 is the command line?

 Thank you for your kind help.

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Sorry, I do not use command line for KVM. I use my Desktop to connect to 
Servers KVM Domain:

Virtual Machine Manager - File - Add New Connection - Fill: 
Hipervisor: QEMU/KVM; Connect to remote host; Metod: SSHl username + 
password; Hostname: xxx

And you should have full access to your servers KVM domain.

But even if you need to use command line, I am sure you will be able to 
find it by googling for kvm linux boot from cd command line.

Also check out CentOS-virt mailing list Archive (on this same mailing 
list server).

http://www.linux-kvm.org is official site for KVM.

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Re: [CentOS] Live CD boot for KVM guest. How?

2011-10-19 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 10/19/2011 06:34 PM, Müfit Eribol piše:
 Hi,

 My host and guest are CentOS 6. The guest is going to be a web server in
 production. I am trying to resize (extend) of the base partition of my
 guest.  But I can of course start the installation of CentOS 6 guest all
 over again with a larger image size. However, just for the sake of
 better understanding I an trying to solve things not to be end up in a
 dead end after some years.

 1. I created a guest CentOS 6 with 12G total disk (on a iscsi drive). No
 Desktop, just for terminal use. No LVM, just a simple basic partitioning.
 2. Later I wanted to increase the size of total image to 200G.
 3. I managed to resize the image to 200G on my iscsi drive. So, there is
 188G unallocated/unformatted volume within the guest image.

 Now, the hardest part. I have to resize the partition. I have been
 trying to find a way to do that. A search on Google showed that GParted
 is tool to do that. I had to install all Desktop and X as Gparted is a
 GUI tool. Installed vncserver. Then, I found out that GParted can not
 resize the live guest. So, I downloaded GParted Live CD.

 Now, the questions:

 1. If it was a physical machine I would boot from the CD. If I can boot
 it from host CDROM but then how should I operate on a specific guest?
 What is the easiest way to access GUI of the guest if I boot from Live CD.
 2. I am wondering if a simple LVM route at the beginning would be
 preferred. Changing size of the iscsi volume on my NAS is easy. I
 thought there was no need for more complication, so went with basic
 /boot / and swap partitions. Is resizing partitions for LVM easier than
 basic partitioning (without LVM)?
 3. Is there a specific tool in KVM suit which performs resizing
 partition within the image? Or as I prefer command line tools, is there
 a way to achieve resizing without any graphical tool like GParted? With
 GParted I had to install all the X and Gnome files, vncserver which
 otherwise I don't need.

 I would appreciate any information/hint/experience.

 All the best.
Hi.

My view is:

a) Use LVM so you can manipulate size of partition(s). Resizing etx4 
partitions is horrible job, long and dangerous.

b) You can mount ISO image file of any CD via Guests VirtualCD, no need 
to mess with physical CD/DVD drives. There is System Rescue CD, CentOS 
LiveCD (I have one 5.3 with mdadm raid support and bunch of tools,I will 
soon be making 6.1 version) or Hiren's Boot CD - Parted. Root partition 
needs offline resize since extX partitions can not be mounted at the 
time of the resizing.

c) All text-based resize tools require higher knowledge and/or 
experience, like alignment to sectors and similar mambo-jumbo. When you 
need to make it happen on production server without experimentation and 
you have done it only once 3 years ago it IS mambo-jumbo.

d) As far as I know, KVM can not mount virtual hard drives, so meesing 
with them is not an option, unless you use raw partition on the Host 
(still haven't tried it).

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Re: [CentOS] Live CD boot for KVM guest. How?

2011-10-19 Thread John R Pierce
On 10/19/11 9:34 AM, Müfit Eribol wrote:
 My host and guest are CentOS 6. The guest is going to be a web server in
 production. I am trying to resize (extend) of the base partition of my
 guest.  But I can of course start the installation of CentOS 6 guest all
 over again with a larger image size. However, just for the sake of
 better understanding I an trying to solve things not to be end up in a
 dead end after some years.

rather than resizing the system 'drive', I woudl have simply created 
ANOTHER logical drive mapped to the guest, and create a new file system 
on it, moving the stuff thats filling up your base disk (/home ?  
/var/www ?) to it, then remounting it as the 'new' /home or /var/www or 
whatever



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Re: [CentOS] Live CD boot for KVM guest. How?

2011-10-19 Thread Theo Band
On 10/19/2011 08:15 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
 On 10/19/11 9:34 AM, Müfit Eribol wrote:
 My host and guest are CentOS 6. The guest is going to be a web server in
 production. I am trying to resize (extend) of the base partition of my
 guest.  But I can of course start the installation of CentOS 6 guest all
 over again with a larger image size. However, just for the sake of
 better understanding I an trying to solve things not to be end up in a
 dead end after some years.
 rather than resizing the system 'drive', I woudl have simply created 
 ANOTHER logical drive mapped to the guest, and create a new file system 
 on it, moving the stuff thats filling up your base disk (/home ?  
 /var/www ?) to it, then remounting it as the 'new' /home or /var/www or 
 whatever
Agree.
But if your system disk is now bigger, you can also create a new
partition (even while the system is live) and use this new partition.
And I would still use LVM for this new partition. This does not really
add much complexity. It does add a lot of flexibility. The steps are:

parted /dev/sda
mkpart p ext2 start stop

pvcreate /dev/sda2 (your new second new partition?)
vgcreate vg /dev/sda2
lvcreate vg -n test -L 10G
mkfs.ext4 /dev/vg/test

The volume group does not need to be assigned completely and leaves some
room to carve new partitions in the future. Also the snapshot feature
allows to create consistent backups if needed.

I even think you can used parted to change you system partition. Simply
delete the partition and recreate with the exact same starting sector.
One mistake and you will loose a lot though, so why would you even try?

Theo

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Re: [CentOS] Live CD problems

2010-06-30 Thread Trevor Benson
Instead of unmounting the partition try using 'mount -o rw,remount ', I 
dont use the live CD much, but unless you screwup the rw, remount, or the path 
to the mounted partition it should either remount the partition properly or 
error that you didnt point to the correct path.  I have rarely had issues with 
remount so it sounds like it would get around your issue.

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On Jun 30, 2010, at 4:43 PM, drew einhorn wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I'm trying to repair a remote system using the Live CD.
 I have VPN access to the subnet where it lives.
 
 An onsite person is booting from cd, and running a small script I 
 provided to tweak the default firewall rule set to allow incoming ssh,
 and set a password for the centos user and start sshd
 
 so far so good I can remotely access the system.
 
 the problem is the live cd environment is very fragile.
 
 I need to rebuild the contents of a couple filesystems,
 so I need to umount them and remount them rw.
 
 If I make a mistake in a mount command instead of giving
 an error message and letting me try again.  The system
 freezes and any other ssh session freezes, ahnd will not
 accept any more incoming ssh connections. the only way
 I have found to recover is have the onsite person reboot
 from cd and rerun the script allowing incoming ssh again.
 
 Hmm.  I should try to talk the onsite person through trying
 something else from the console.
 
 Argghhh!!! This is more than just an annoyance.
 
 -- 
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Re: [CentOS] Live CD?

2008-06-06 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 11:51 -0700, MHR wrote:
 I just used a Live CD for the first time today, in part to show what
 CentOS can do for a co-worker who is looking at using it at work and
 home, but I got the strangest result.
snip

Mark: First, I believe that you should always TYS (Test Your Stuff). You
were very lucky the demo was for a colleague and not for your Manager or
his/her boss! Test what you do, as much as is possible, so others do not
catch your mistakes! TYS... There are reasons for VV (Verification and
Validation), Design Walk Through, etc. The earlier mistakes are found,
the easier it is to fix them.

I have a Live CD for an earlier version of CentOS and we have one old
box (Firewall/Router backup) it will not run on. I believe that's
because of a video problem.

The Live CD's have a number of uses, which include: (a) Being able to
Rescue a box that has bad problems. They usually have many utilities on
them (b) That one can see if the regular Installation will fly on the
HW, before actually trying to install. (c) You can take a Live CD with
you to a store, if you are contemplating buying a box, and see if Linux
will run on it (d) I plan to take a Knoppix Live CD with me, when I
travel, so if I need to use a Public box, I can boot Knoppix, do
whatever I need to do, and not leave a footprint.

The Knoppix Live CD has been recommended here on this ML and is very
popular. In your case, the CentOS Live CD was a better choice, since
your colleague is interested in using CentOS (a great idea).

Seems like you have a TEAC burner. Someone here on this list, last year,
told me that he does not like them. I personally will not buy any more
TEAC drives, because recently, I learned they did not have Diagnostics
for my CD-RW drive. It went into the trash. Drives that we have had good
luck with include: Samsung, SONY  LG. Other's probably work just as
well. We have other TEAC drives, but they are the last TEAC drives we
will purchase.

The CD-R media I usually buy are Imation or Verbatim. Never had a
problem. There are probably other brands equally good.

When I burned the Knoppix Live CDs, K3B burned them at a high speed as I
recall, but, as has been suggested in prior responses, throttling back
on the speed probably greatly increases the chance of getting a good
burn. K3B checks the MD5 sum, as I recall, when it begins the process.
HTH, Lanny

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Re: [CentOS] Live CD?

2008-06-06 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 06 June 2008 13:20:02 Lanny Marcus wrote:
 Drives that we have had good
 luck with include: Samsung, SONY  LG. Other's probably work just as
 well. We have other TEAC drives, but they are the last TEAC drives we
 will purchase.

I would add Lite-On to the list.  I've had several, including a stand-alone 
DVD recorder, and been highly satisfied with them.

 The CD-R media I usually buy are Imation or Verbatim. Never had a
 problem. There are probably other brands equally good.

Memorex to a range that they call Memorex Professional - about 10% more 
expensive than their basic range.  I've found that I can let K3B run 
full-tilt on them, doing a fast burn and getting good results.  Prior to 
finding them I always had to throttle back.

 When I burned the Knoppix Live CDs, K3B burned them at a high speed as I
 recall, but, as has been suggested in prior responses, throttling back
 on the speed probably greatly increases the chance of getting a good
 burn. K3B checks the MD5 sum, as I recall, when it begins the process.

The only problem with K3B is that on some installations it ejects the disk 
after the burn, then fails to pull it in again for the verify, so that you 
have to manually run md5sum or sha1sum to check it.

Anne


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Re: [CentOS] Live CD?

2008-06-06 Thread MHR
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 5:38 AM, Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Friday 06 June 2008 13:20:02 Lanny Marcus wrote:
 Drives that we have had good
 luck with include: Samsung, SONY  LG. Other's probably work just as
 well. We have other TEAC drives, but they are the last TEAC drives we
 will purchase.

 I would add Lite-On to the list.  I've had several, including a stand-alone
 DVD recorder, and been highly satisfied with them.


Actually, I said (and it's true) that the burner was a Pioneer DVD
+/-RW DL 18x, with which I have so far had pretty good luck.  It turns
out that the image was bad, which I missed

The reader is a Teac CD-540E CD drive, but the original iso image that
came down was no good.

 The CD-R media I usually buy are Imation or Verbatim. Never had a
 problem. There are probably other brands equally good.

 Memorex to a range that they call Memorex Professional - about 10% more
 expensive than their basic range.  I've found that I can let K3B run
 full-tilt on them, doing a fast burn and getting good results.  Prior to
 finding them I always had to throttle back.


I'm somewhat fond of TDK, but their newer, high-speed (16x+) DVDs have
been pretty iffy for me - the old ones (4x), and their CDs, are rock
solid, and the newer Memorex and Sony discs have been fairly reliable
for me (but Costco only carries TDK - foo).

Thanks.

mhr
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Re: [CentOS] Live CD?

2008-06-06 Thread John R Pierce



The CD-R media I usually buy are Imation or Verbatim. Never had a
problem. There are probably other brands equally good.
  

Memorex to a range that they call Memorex Professional - about 10% more
expensive than their basic range.  I've found that I can let K3B run
full-tilt on them, doing a fast burn and getting good results.  Prior to
finding them I always had to throttle back.



I'm somewhat fond of TDK, but their newer, high-speed (16x+) DVDs have
been pretty iffy for me - the old ones (4x), and their CDs, are rock
solid, and the newer Memorex and Sony discs have been fairly reliable
for me (but Costco only carries TDK - foo).
  




TDK, Memorex, Imation, Verbatim, I don't believe ANY of those actually 
make their own disks.   My TDK's have a media code of CMC MAG. AM3, 
which is, I believe, CMC Magnetics, a middle grade disk, OK but not 
great.Note that there's some OTHER CMC disks which are apparently 
pure garbage.These AM3 code disks can be found with Ricoh, , 
Memorex, Staples, and god knows how many other brands on the label.   
And, a different label of TDK disk might be from a different pressing plant.


that said, I've burned 100s and 100s of the Costco 16X TDK CMC MAG. 
AM3 DVDs with very very few problems.   I've had several DVD burners, 
currently mostly using a Pioneer DVR-112D (16x DL), previously I had a 
Sony that was really a rebranded LiteOn, but after a couple years of 
heavy use, it started getting too many burn errors, so I retired it.


I have noted that DVD video is best burned at 8X, which is a CLV mode 
(16X is a CAV mode), as the error rate goes up considerably on the last 
20% or so of the disk when it actually hits the 16X speeds, too many of 
my 16X burned home videos have glitches near the end.. 16X CAV 
burns actually average about 11X, so its really not that much slower to 
burn 8X overall.  I've also found my computers are much less fussier 
about the disks than regular DVD players.


Supposedly, disks by Taiyo Yuden are the best, these are often sold as 
That's DVD


These guys have extensive reasonably technical evaluations of burners 
and media, http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Reviews/Home.aspx?CategoryId=1
they actually do error rate plots on every disk, and try different 
drives with many different media types. Reading too much of this can 
be depressing, when you realize just how marginal all this stuff 
actually is  :)




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Re: [CentOS] Live CD?

2008-06-06 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 06 June 2008 20:12:57 John R Pierce wrote:
 TDK, Memorex, Imation, Verbatim, I don't believe ANY of those actually
 make their own disks.

I understand that there are only two or three manufacturers and that 
the 'brands' may well buy from more than one of them.  I did quite a lot of 
reading about this at one time, and it seems that the output of some 
factories is less reliable than the output of other factories.  It all comes 
down to qa, and I suspect that's what the extra 10% pays for in Memorex's 
Professional range.

Anne


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Re: [CentOS] Live CD?

2008-06-06 Thread MHR
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 12:12 PM, John R Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 TDK, Memorex, Imation, Verbatim, I don't believe ANY of those actually make
 their own disks.   My TDK's have a media code of CMC MAG. AM3, which is, I
 believe, CMC Magnetics, a middle grade disk, OK but not great.Note that
 there's some OTHER CMC disks which are apparently pure garbage.These
 AM3 code disks can be found with Ricoh, , Memorex, Staples, and god knows
 how many other brands on the label.   And, a different label of TDK disk
 might be from a different pressing plant.


Hmm - sounds like we need a corollary to Nero's InfoTool for Linux to
get at that

 that said, I've burned 100s and 100s of the Costco 16X TDK CMC MAG. AM3
 DVDs with very very few problems.   I've had several DVD burners, currently
 mostly using a Pioneer DVR-112D (16x DL), previously I had a Sony that was
 really a rebranded LiteOn, but after a couple years of heavy use, it started
 getting too many burn errors, so I retired it.


I used to have a couple of Emprex burners - I forget who _really_ made
them - that were quite nice despite being a junk brand from Fry's.
The 4x burner was slow but reliable, and the 16x burner was fast and
could burn DVDs that read in DVD players and most other PC drives if
the discs were burned at 12x (not 16x).  Unfortuantely, both of them
are now history, having died long before my time.

I had a Hammer 18x drive that was really a Panasonic, but it didn't
have all the speeds, and it died long before my Emprex 16x, even
though it was about a year newer.

I now have a Pioneer 18x burner that's pretty decent (although I
haven't gotten it past 12x for DVDs and 40x for CDs), and a Samsung
(i.e., Toshiba-Samsung) 20x drive that, so far, hasn't burned one DVD
above 2.4x, or one that was any good in any drive, including itself.
(I need to get some tech support for that one - blecch!)

 I have noted that DVD video is best burned at 8X, which is a CLV mode (16X
 is a CAV mode), as the error rate goes up considerably on the last 20% or so
 of the disk when it actually hits the 16X speeds, too many of my 16X burned
 home videos have glitches near the end.. 16X CAV burns actually
 average about 11X, so its really not that much slower to burn 8X overall.
I've also found my computers are much less fussier about the disks than
 regular DVD players.


I agree 100%.

 Supposedly, disks by Taiyo Yuden are the best, these are often sold as
 That's DVD


Never heard of them - where do you find these?

HTH

mhr

PS: w.r.t. the original topic here, I pulled down a new LiveCD iso
image, and this one passed the md5sum.  I used K3B here at work to
burn two of them.  Both completed the burn but the verification
failed, so I mounted the iso file as a loop drive and compared all the
files - fine.  Booted from the CD - fine.  Looks okay to me.
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Re: [CentOS] Live CD?

2008-06-06 Thread William L. Maltby
On Fri, 2008-06-06 at 12:50 -0700, MHR wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 12:12 PM, John R Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  TDK, Memorex, Imation, Verbatim, I don't believe ANY of those actually make
  their own disks.   My TDK's have a media code of CMC MAG. AM3, which is, I
  believe, CMC Magnetics,snip

 Hmm - sounds like we need a corollary to Nero's InfoTool for Linux to
 get at that

Nope. Cdrtools/cdrecord can read all that stuff and tell you what you
want to know. CLI though.

 
  that said, I've burned 100s and 100s of the Costco 16X TDK CMC MAG. AM3
  DVDs with very very few problems.   I've had several DVD burners, currently
  mostly using a Pioneer DVR-112D (16x DL), previously I had a Sony that was
  really a rebranded LiteOn, but after a couple years of heavy use, it started
  getting too many burn errors, so I retired it.

I've always bought the store brands except for once (wanted High Speed
compatible CD). I burn 'em at full speed, test 'em carefully and can any
bad ones - very few to-date. The savings are great enough that if I have
to trash one or two, NP. Of course, if you've something more important
to do, it does cost a Little of your time and may not be worth the
savings.

 snip

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Re: [CentOS] Live CD?

2008-06-04 Thread Johnny Hughes

MHR wrote:

I just used a Live CD for the first time today, in part to show what
CentOS can do for a co-worker who is looking at using it at work and
home, but I got the strangest result.

We booted the CD and let the centos user log in.  It took a really
long time to load the desktop and there were no panels, so the only
things we could do were browse the computer, CD, home, file system,
keyboard (sort of) and pretty much nothing else.  altf2 and
altf1 did nothing, either - no menu, no input windows - nada.

Is that normal?  If not, what did I/we overlook?  I was expecting a
lot more, and from looking around the wiki, there should have been,
but I couldn't find a good reference for what the Live CD is supposed
to be able to do or let a user do.


Both live CDs (CentOS-4 and CentOS-5) boot to fully usable desktops.

It sounds like there are hardware issues with the machine involved and 
the livecd booted.




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RE: [CentOS] Live CD?

2008-06-04 Thread Ross S. W. Walker
MHR wrote:

 I just used a Live CD for the first time today, in part to show what
 CentOS can do for a co-worker who is looking at using it at work and
 home, but I got the strangest result.
 
 We booted the CD and let the centos user log in.  It took a really
 long time to load the desktop and there were no panels, so the only
 things we could do were browse the computer, CD, home, file system,
 keyboard (sort of) and pretty much nothing else.  altf2 and
 altf1 did nothing, either - no menu, no input windows - nada.
 
 Is that normal?  If not, what did I/we overlook?  I was expecting a
 lot more, and from looking around the wiki, there should have been,
 but I couldn't find a good reference for what the Live CD is supposed
 to be able to do or let a user do.

Incompatible burn for that reader? (cd-r, cd+r, cd-rw, cd+rw ...)

Or maybe it is just the skew of the burn is outside of that
readers acceptable range.

-Ross

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Re: [CentOS] Live CD?

2008-06-04 Thread MHR
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:24 AM, Johnny Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Both live CDs (CentOS-4 and CentOS-5) boot to fully usable desktops.

 It sounds like there are hardware issues with the machine involved and the
 livecd booted.


Sounds likely - I'll check what I can

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Re: [CentOS] Live CD Planning systems

2008-01-07 Thread John Bowden
On Sunday 06 January 2008 08:35:13 Robert Moskowitz wrote:
 Les Mikesell wrote:
  Robert Moskowitz wrote:
  My company supplies me with a very nice HP nc2400. Much faster, more
  memory, etc than my old HP nc4010.
 
  Problem is the drive is not swappable, and they encrypt the drive
  (the OS is XP).
 
  The nc2400 has a DVD/CDRW and 2 USB 2.0 ports so I was thinking.
 
  Make a Live DVD with everything I need but map
 
  /etc /root /home and /var/log (and what else?) to a USB flash drive
  (16Gb are available and I was just sent a PR on a 32Gb, maybe I can
  get an eval device :) ).
 
  If you can boot from USB, why not get one of the laptop-drive based
  external units that are available up to 250 gigs now and do a full
  install on it?

 Duh..

 I would have to get one that can be powered from that one USB port
 (fairly rare, the few that I have require external power or the power
 from a 2nd USB port). I would also have to be able to strap it to the
 bottom of the unit for easy management on a plane.

 Though if I can get that 32Gb USB flash drive that might almost be
 enough

 And too bad not a larger Compact Flash MicroDrive. Hey, wait. I run my
 Libretto's DSL off of one I can put one in a PCMCIA holder and map
 the swap drive to it and Now I am cooking. Maybe.

 But still down to can XEN run the content of the encrypted drive. How do
 I find out?


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I have a external USB HD enclosure that takes its power from the one USB 
socket. Its only failed to do so on one oldish tower that a friend of mine 
has, on that machine it needed the second power connection. Got it from 
Ebay.
You might find that mounting /swap on a solid state device brings about its 
early demise. They can't be written to indefinitely.
Looking at my two external HD enclosures the one in question has an IDE hard 
drive in it and the other which quite often need a double connection, (though 
not when connected to this note book HP 510), has the original SATA hard 
drive that was in this note book when I first purchased it.
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Re: [CentOS] Live CD Planning systems

2008-01-07 Thread John R Pierce

John Bowden wrote:
I have a external USB HD enclosure that takes its power from the one USB 
socket. Its only failed to do so on one oldish tower that a friend of mine 
has, on that machine it needed the second power connection. Got it from 
Ebay



thts also out of spec, as USB is speced for 2.5 watts, 500mA at 5V, per 
port.   Typlical laptop HD is like 5 watts, more when spinning up.



yes, I know it usually works.  just saying...
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Re: [CentOS] Live CD Planning systems

2008-01-06 Thread Les Mikesell

Robert Moskowitz wrote:
My company supplies me with a very nice HP nc2400.  Much faster, more 
memory, etc than my old HP nc4010.


Problem is the drive is not swappable, and they encrypt the drive (the 
OS is XP).


The nc2400 has a DVD/CDRW and 2 USB 2.0 ports so I was thinking.

Make a Live DVD with everything I need but map

/etc /root /home and /var/log (and what else?) to a USB flash drive 
(16Gb are available and I was just sent a PR on a 32Gb, maybe I can get 
an eval device :) ).


If you can boot from USB, why not get one of the laptop-drive based 
external units that are available up to 250 gigs now and do a full 
install on it?


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Re: [CentOS] Live CD Planning systems

2008-01-06 Thread Robert Moskowitz

Les Mikesell wrote:

Robert Moskowitz wrote:
My company supplies me with a very nice HP nc2400. Much faster, more 
memory, etc than my old HP nc4010.


Problem is the drive is not swappable, and they encrypt the drive 
(the OS is XP).


The nc2400 has a DVD/CDRW and 2 USB 2.0 ports so I was thinking.

Make a Live DVD with everything I need but map

/etc /root /home and /var/log (and what else?) to a USB flash drive 
(16Gb are available and I was just sent a PR on a 32Gb, maybe I can 
get an eval device :) ).


If you can boot from USB, why not get one of the laptop-drive based 
external units that are available up to 250 gigs now and do a full 
install on it? 

Duh..

I would have to get one that can be powered from that one USB port 
(fairly rare, the few that I have require external power or the power 
from a 2nd USB port). I would also have to be able to strap it to the 
bottom of the unit for easy management on a plane.


Though if I can get that 32Gb USB flash drive that might almost be 
enough


And too bad not a larger Compact Flash MicroDrive. Hey, wait. I run my 
Libretto's DSL off of one I can put one in a PCMCIA holder and map 
the swap drive to it and Now I am cooking. Maybe.


But still down to can XEN run the content of the encrypted drive. How do 
I find out?



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Re: [CentOS] Live CD Planning systems

2008-01-05 Thread Jason Clark
Not to pitch another distro, but knoppix and dsl do pretty much what are
looking for ,minus the xen.  What I would propose though is to run vmware
P2V (now called converter) on your XP machine. It will export a vmware image
of that drive, then just format that sucker, install centos and vmware and
run your corp image inside of that. It's what I do at work and it has always
worked splendidly.

On 1/5/08, Robert Moskowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My company supplies me with a very nice HP nc2400.  Much faster, more
 memory, etc than my old HP nc4010.

 Problem is the drive is not swappable, and they encrypt the drive (the
 OS is XP).

 The nc2400 has a DVD/CDRW and 2 USB 2.0 ports so I was thinking.

 Make a Live DVD with everything I need but map

 /etc /root /home and /var/log (and what else?) to a USB flash drive
 (16Gb are available and I was just sent a PR on a 32Gb, maybe I can get
 an eval device :) ).

 So first I would want a bootable DVD that would have everything I want
 to have running on the cd2400.  And of course, everytime one of the
 components get updated, I will have to build a new DVD.

 Then I would like to run within XEN my company's XP image on that
 encrypted drive.  Is this possible.  If I could do this, I can move the
 nc2400 as my 'workhorse', downgrade my nc4010 to my test box, and
 reallocate the Toshiba 3490 to the family  And more importantly one
 less box to carry when traveling!

 I guess one thing in this whole equation will I be able to repartition
 the USB flash drive with a swap partition (will probably never use, as
 there is 1.5Gb memory in the nc2400. Twice as much as the nc4010), and
 an ext3 data partition?  Or should I use LVM on it?


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Re: [CentOS] Live CD Planning systems

2008-01-05 Thread Robert Moskowitz

Jason Clark wrote:
Not to pitch another distro, but knoppix and dsl do pretty much what 
are looking for ,minus the xen.
I am using DSL 4.2 on a Libretto, so I will first be testing booting the 
nc2400 off a DSL live CD.
What I would propose though is to run vmware P2V (now called 
converter) on your XP machine. It will export a vmware image of that 
drive, then just format that sucker, install centos and vmware and run 
your corp image inside of that. It's what I do at work and it has 
always worked splendidly.
I CANNOT touch the drive.  I have to leave it and its encrypted XP 
alone.  In fact I think it will be rather hard to get the encyrption off 
the drive without blowing the MSB and partition tables.


And they force XP updates down to me that I have no choice to 'install 
later'.  Rather my only choice once they pop up on the box is when to 
reboot...


It would be nice, but question about how much work Live CD is.  Perhaps 
I should pull the current one down and boot it for kicks...




On 1/5/08, *Robert Moskowitz* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


My company supplies me with a very nice HP nc2400.  Much faster, more
memory, etc than my old HP nc4010.

Problem is the drive is not swappable, and they encrypt the drive (the
OS is XP).

The nc2400 has a DVD/CDRW and 2 USB 2.0 ports so I was thinking.

Make a Live DVD with everything I need but map

/etc /root /home and /var/log (and what else?) to a USB flash drive
(16Gb are available and I was just sent a PR on a 32Gb, maybe I
can get
an eval device :) ).

So first I would want a bootable DVD that would have everything I want
to have running on the cd2400.  And of course, everytime one of the
components get updated, I will have to build a new DVD.

Then I would like to run within XEN my company's XP image on that
encrypted drive.  Is this possible.  If I could do this, I can
move the
nc2400 as my 'workhorse', downgrade my nc4010 to my test box, and
reallocate the Toshiba 3490 to the family  And more
importantly one
less box to carry when traveling!

I guess one thing in this whole equation will I be able to repartition
the USB flash drive with a swap partition (will probably never
use, as
there is 1.5Gb memory in the nc2400. Twice as much as the nc4010), and
an ext3 data partition?  Or should I use LVM on it?


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Re: [CentOS] Live CD root password

2007-07-13 Thread Mogens Kjaer
Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
 On 7/13/07, Mogens Kjaer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does the root user on the CentOS 5 live CD have
 a password? If so, which?
 
 See this:
 http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2007-July/014021.html

Thanks for the link - I had only searched this list for the answer,
not the announce list :-(

For someone else making this mistake the answer is 12qwaszx
the first two characters in each row on the keyboard (unless
you have a German keyboard).

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Re: [CentOS] Live CD root password

2007-07-13 Thread Alain Reguera Delgado

On 7/13/07, Mogens Kjaer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Does the root user on the CentOS 5 live CD have
a password? If so, which?


See this: 
http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2007-July/014021.html
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Re: [CentOS] Live CD root password

2007-07-13 Thread Seán O Sullivan
 Does the root user on the CentOS 5 live CD have
 a password? If so, which?


http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2007-July/014021.html


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