Re: [CentOS] CentOS vs RedHat packages

2007-08-04 Thread Daniel de Kok
On Sat, 2007-08-04 at 16:31 -0400, Scott Ehrlich wrote:
 Another learning experience question - it is my understanding that CentOS 
 essentially IS RedHat but with any commercial connection removed.   That 
 being said, is there any difference in the included, or quality of 
 packages between the two distros?
 
 I've got some basic issues with a critical server I'm about to set up, and 
 if I cannot get beyond said issues, I may opt to try CentOS.  Seeing that 
 CentOS is free (can't call RedHat for support), I'm wondering if I should 
 try and make the case for CentOS over RedHat.  Once the choice is made, it 
 may be next to impossible to revert to the other version (RH vs CentOS).

CentOS aims to be 100% binary compatible with the upstream product.
Additional or changed packages are included in the extras or plus
repositories. E.g. CentOS plus provides a modified kernel with more
options enabled, and extras the heartbeat clustering software.

-- Daniel

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS vs RedHat packages

2007-08-04 Thread Shawn Everett
 I've got some basic issues with a critical server I'm about to set up,
 and if I cannot get beyond said issues, I may opt to try CentOS.  Seeing
 that CentOS is free (can't call RedHat for support), I'm wondering if I
 should try and make the case for CentOS over RedHat.  Once the choice is
 made, it may be next to impossible to revert to the other version (RH vs
 CentOS).


Hi Scott,

If you explain the basic issues you are having we might be able to help 
you out.

I have installed Oracle 10g and Veritas Netbackup on CentOS servers with no 
problem at all.  I've been 100% happy with how things have worked.

If this really is a critical server, I would suggest going with the vendor 
supported distribution.  Running an (untested to you) distribution that 
you are not completely familiar with (on a critical server) is a recipe 
for disaster.

Shawn
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS vs RedHat packages

2007-08-04 Thread Scott Ehrlich

On Sat, 4 Aug 2007, Shawn Everett wrote:


I've got some basic issues with a critical server I'm about to set up,
and if I cannot get beyond said issues, I may opt to try CentOS.  Seeing
that CentOS is free (can't call RedHat for support), I'm wondering if I
should try and make the case for CentOS over RedHat.  Once the choice is
made, it may be next to impossible to revert to the other version (RH vs
CentOS).



Hi Scott,

If you explain the basic issues you are having we might be able to help
you out.

I have installed Oracle 10g and Veritas Netbackup on CentOS servers with no
problem at all.  I've been 100% happy with how things have worked.

If this really is a critical server, I would suggest going with the vendor
supported distribution.  Running an (untested to you) distribution that
you are not completely familiar with (on a critical server) is a recipe
for disaster.


The basic issue I have encountered is, after freshly installing RHEL5 
64-bit Server on a Dell Poweredge 2950, everything is fine.  After logging 
in for the first time, I configure services as I want via 
system-config-services. But after doing so, and rebooting, at first the 
filesystem claims there is a system error and prompts for the root 
password for a fsck, or control-D to reboot.


I opt to reboot, and the system then complains of python errors, but there 
are no more system errors.  But, when I revisit system-config-services, I 
immediately experience python errors.


To try and potentially help resolve this problem, I recently updated the 
BIOS and some of the firmware.   I then performed a fresh install again.
I then downloaded RH's Enterprise 5 Supplement ISO, along with Dell's 
OpenManage ISOs for Enterprise 5.   I'm hoping something among this back 
of changes will help solve the python configuration problem.


If not, I may opt to see how well CentOS 5 handles things.

I'm mostly interested in the PostgreSql and Java pieces.

If it comes down to it, I could always place a trouble call with Dell and 
RedHat and see if either of them has a helpful solution.


Anyone on the list experience the same kind of problem, and find an 
answer?  If so, what was it?


The server is not connected to the Internet, and likely never will be - 
strictly out-of-box CDs.


Thanks for any insights.

Scott



Shawn
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS vs RedHat packages

2007-08-04 Thread Shawn Everett
 Anyone on the list experience the same kind of problem, and find an
 answer?  If so, what was it?


A couple of follow up questions:
- How much disk space is on the server and how is it partitioned?  How many 
logical disks in the RAID controller (if any) are made?

- Have you noticed any programs mysteriously stop working after the reboot?

Personally I never use the system-config-* scripts.  I do 90% of the 
configuration by hand.  That's a throwback to my Slackware days and that 
way I know things work.

Shawn
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