Re: [CentOS] Grub booting issue

2010-07-16 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 07/15/2010 05:21 PM, Jason Pyeron wrote:

 I have read in many places that I cannot do it, since
 root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00

 I will try, if you think it could work.

It should be fine.  lilo will load the kernel and initrd into RAM from 
the /boot partition.  Only the kernel cares about the root=... argument.
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Re: [CentOS] Grub booting issue

2010-07-15 Thread m . roth
Jason Pyeron wrote:
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499204

 Given I can boot the install disk and chroot in, there must be away around
 Grub
 while still keeping LVM installed.

 Any ideas?

 Screen says:

   Booting  Centos (2.6.18-194.3.1.el5)

 root (hd0,0)
  Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
 kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.18-194.3.1.el5 ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00
[Linux-bzImage, setup=0x1e00, size=0x1db35c]

 And then hangs. It is aleged that Grub probes aroung the bios which
 chrashes on
 optiplex 320s

I just was rebuilding a Vostro the other day, and had all *kinds* of
grief, including it hanging on the way up... until I went into the BIOS,
and in integrated peripherals, I think it was, saw SATA Mode, and it
was set to IDE. ONLY when I arrowed down to that option did I see info on
the side saying it was for XP, Vista and older? newer?. The other
option was RAID. I set it to that... and the install went with no
problems.

Then there was the older rackmount I rebuilt a few months ago, that I had
to unset an option that was *only* for OS/2

Have you alt-F3 or alt-F4, and seen what it's logging?

 mark

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Re: [CentOS] Grub booting issue

2010-07-15 Thread Jason Pyeron

 -Original Message-
 From: centos-boun...@centos.org 
 [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of m.r...@5-cent.us
 Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:29
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 Subject: Re: [CentOS] Grub booting issue
 
 Jason Pyeron wrote:
  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499204
 
  Given I can boot the install disk and chroot in, there must be away 
  around Grub while still keeping LVM installed.
 
  Any ideas?
 
  Screen says:
 
Booting  Centos (2.6.18-194.3.1.el5)
 
  root (hd0,0)
   Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83 kernel 
  /vmlinuz-2.6.18-194.3.1.el5 ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00
 [Linux-bzImage, setup=0x1e00, size=0x1db35c]
 
  And then hangs. It is aleged that Grub probes aroung the bios which 
  chrashes on optiplex 320s
 
 I just was rebuilding a Vostro the other day, and had all 
 *kinds* of grief, including it hanging on the way up... until 
 I went into the BIOS, and in integrated peripherals, I 
 think it was, saw SATA Mode, and it was set to IDE. ONLY 
 when I arrowed down to that option did I see info on the side 
 saying it was for XP, Vista and older? newer?. The other 
 option was RAID. I set it to that... and the install went 
 with no problems.
 
 Then there was the older rackmount I rebuilt a few months 
 ago, that I had to unset an option that was *only* for OS/2


Trudging through bios again.
 
 Have you alt-F3 or alt-F4, and seen what it's logging?
 

Please elaborate on the alt-f4/f4 thing.

-Jason



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Re: [CentOS] Grub booting issue

2010-07-15 Thread m . roth
Jason Pyeron wrote:
 [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of m.r...@5-cent.us
 Jason Pyeron wrote:
  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499204
 
  Given I can boot the install disk and chroot in, there must be away
  around Grub while still keeping LVM installed.
 
  Any ideas?
snip
 Have you alt-F3 or alt-F4, and seen what it's logging?

 Please elaborate on the alt-f4/f4 thing.

While booting, if you hit them and it's not *too* soon in the boot
process, screen will be running, and you can get another console window.
There's eight, I think, available, and three and four show diffent logging
info - I think one gets copied to boot.log, or dmesg, and the other to
/var/log/message. At any rate, they're written to the screen.

 mark

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Re: [CentOS] Grub booting issue

2010-07-15 Thread Jason Pyeron
 

 -Original Message-
 From: centos-boun...@centos.org 
 [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of m.r...@5-cent.us
 Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 10:09
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 Subject: Re: [CentOS] Grub booting issue
 
 Jason Pyeron wrote:
  [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of m.r...@5-cent.us 
  Jason Pyeron wrote:
   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499204
  
   Given I can boot the install disk and chroot in, there 
 must be away 
   around Grub while still keeping LVM installed.
  
   Any ideas?
 snip
  Have you alt-F3 or alt-F4, and seen what it's logging?
 
  Please elaborate on the alt-f4/f4 thing.
 
 While booting, if you hit them and it's not *too* soon in the 
 boot process, screen will be running, and you can get another 
 console window.
 There's eight, I think, available, and three and four show 
 diffent logging info - I think one gets copied to boot.log, 
 or dmesg, and the other to /var/log/message. At any rate, 
 they're written to the screen.

I am hanging prior to the kernel being loaded.


I have change what few options there are in the bios (v1.1.12), no luck.

More internet searching:

http://refried.org/blog/226/

http://bugs.debian.org/419766

Does centos have grub2?

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Re: [CentOS] Grub booting issue

2010-07-15 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 07/15/2010 04:57 AM, Jason Pyeron wrote:

 Given I can boot the install disk and chroot in, there must be away around 
 Grub
 while still keeping LVM installed.

What do you mean?  Do you think that LVM is causing the problem in some way?

Where is the filesystem containing /boot located?

 And then hangs. It is aleged that Grub probes aroung the bios which chrashes 
 on
 optiplex 320s

but not supporting evidence is given.  Is your BIOS up to date?
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Re: [CentOS] Grub booting issue

2010-07-15 Thread Jason Pyeron

 -Original Message-
 From: centos-boun...@centos.org 
 [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Gordon Messmer
 Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 13:25
 To: CentOS mailing list
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] Grub booting issue
 
 On 07/15/2010 04:57 AM, Jason Pyeron wrote:
 
  Given I can boot the install disk and chroot in, there must be away 
  around Grub while still keeping LVM installed.
 
 What do you mean?  Do you think that LVM is causing the 
 problem in some way?

No, but lilo does not support lvm.

 
 Where is the filesystem containing /boot located?

/dev/sda1 (ext2/3)

 
  And then hangs. It is aleged that Grub probes aroung the bios which 
  chrashes on optiplex 320s
 
 but not supporting evidence is given.  

What would you like? Did you read the bugzilla ticket?

Is your BIOS up to date?

Yes see other email; it is 1.1.12. 

Your help is appreciated. 

Per a response on bugzilla, I am going to confirm that fedora 13 can boot on
this machine. Then I am going to try to get their version of grub to load.

-Jason

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Re: [CentOS] Grub booting issue

2010-07-15 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 07/15/2010 02:08 PM, Jason Pyeron wrote:

 No, but lilo does not support lvm.

As long as /boot isn't on the LVM, it shouldn't need to.

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Re: [CentOS] Grub booting issue

2010-07-15 Thread Jason Pyeron

 -Original Message-
 From: centos-boun...@centos.org 
 [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Gordon Messmer
 Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 19:57
 To: CentOS mailing list
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] Grub booting issue
 
 On 07/15/2010 02:08 PM, Jason Pyeron wrote:
 
  No, but lilo does not support lvm.
 
 As long as /boot isn't on the LVM, it shouldn't need to.

I have read in many places that I cannot do it, since
root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00

I will try, if you think it could work.


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