Re: [CentOS] LTS
On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 12:58:43 -0800 edward via CentOS wrote: > On 1/12/2021 3:58 AM, Bob Marcan wrote: > > On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 23:57:11 -0800 > > edward via CentOS wrote: > > > >> On 1/11/2021 10:30 PM, Thomas Stephen Lee wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> CentOS Linux can continue as Fedora LTS > >>> --- > >>> >> so far it appears going forward RHEL will be the only LTS. > >> ___ > >> CentOS mailing list > >> CentOS@centos.org > >> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > > I'm running Fedora, but never heard about Fedora LTS. > > ___ > > CentOS mailing list > > CentOS@centos.org > > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > There is no Fedora LTS. Currently appears RHEL is RedHat's only LTS > > I'm running Fedora, but never heard about Fedora LTS. It was just sarcasm. :-) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] LTS
On 1/12/2021 3:58 AM, Bob Marcan wrote: On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 23:57:11 -0800 edward via CentOS wrote: On 1/11/2021 10:30 PM, Thomas Stephen Lee wrote: Hi, CentOS Linux can continue as Fedora LTS --- so far it appears going forward RHEL will be the only LTS. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos I'm running Fedora, but never heard about Fedora LTS. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos There is no Fedora LTS. Currently appears RHEL is RedHat's only LTS ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] LTS
On 1/11/21 10:30 PM, Thomas Stephen Lee wrote: CentOS Linux can continue as Fedora LTS or something similar with a five-year life cycle. Yeah, you're describing CentOS Stream. It's an LTS distribution with a five year support cycle, similar to other LTS distributions. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] LTS
On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 at 01:32, Thomas Stephen Lee wrote: > Hi, > > CentOS Linux can continue as Fedora LTS or something similar with a > five-year life cycle. After five years, users can opt for paid upgrades. > We can also work with System manufacturers to pre-install the free LTS on > their products, which will increase our user base. > > 1. There is no Fedora LTS and there are no plans for one. Many of the developers who do the work in Fedora but do not work for Red Hat are not interested in the project doing any sort of LTS work. Getting EPEL work is a slog already there. 2. Both Fedora and CentOS are Red Hat 'sponsored' projects where Red Hat owns the trademarks and legally owns the output of the projects. Use of said trademarks for any product needs approval of Red Hat within specific guidelines. If Red Hat is not interested in continued CentOS, then I do not see any reason it would be interested in Fedora LTS. 3. "We can also work with.." requires legal agreements which needs Red Hat lawyers to sign. There are a lot of legal items which have to be reviewed and a lot of liability negotiations which have to be done. 4. Getting System manufacturers to pre-install is a multi year work. The getting Fedora onto Lenovo started in the early 2010's and only got done in 2020. Each company that does this has multiple internal groups who are advocating THEIR favourite Linux to be the one which usually means there is all kinds of internal system manufacturer social negotiations going on. The agreements also are usually tightly reigned in by the manufacturer so that getting an LTS (if it existed) onto this hardware would be a multi-year work to do starting from when you had a working LTS. That said, the items above are all true if you remove Fedora from the equation. Rocky Linux/Navy Linux/RedHawk Linux/Cloud Linux could all be the places for that to happen. > --- > Lee, > Community User. > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > -- Stephen J Smoogen. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] LTS
On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 23:57:11 -0800 edward via CentOS wrote: > On 1/11/2021 10:30 PM, Thomas Stephen Lee wrote: > > Hi, > > > > CentOS Linux can continue as Fedora LTS > > --- > > > so far it appears going forward RHEL will be the only LTS. > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos I'm running Fedora, but never heard about Fedora LTS. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] LTS
On Tue, 2021-01-12 at 14:47 +0530, Thomas Stephen Lee wrote: > On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 12:39 PM John R. Dennison wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 12:00:00PM +0530, Thomas Stephen Lee wrote: > > > > > > CentOS Linux can continue as Fedora LTS or something similar with a > > > five-year life cycle. After five years, users can opt for paid upgrades. > > > We can also work with System manufacturers to pre-install the free LTS on > > > their products, which will increase our user base. > > > > Who is this "we" you speak of? > > Anybody connected to CentOS (Users, Developers, Companies, SIGs ...) > > CentOS is a RedHat entity these days. They already have an LTS product called RHEL which you can pay for, why would they create another one? P. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] LTS
On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 12:39 PM John R. Dennison wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 12:00:00PM +0530, Thomas Stephen Lee wrote: > > > > CentOS Linux can continue as Fedora LTS or something similar with a > > five-year life cycle. After five years, users can opt for paid upgrades. > > We can also work with System manufacturers to pre-install the free LTS on > > their products, which will increase our user base. > > Who is this "we" you speak of? Anybody connected to CentOS (Users, Developers, Companies, SIGs ...) > > > > John > -- > Children's talent to endure stems from their ignorance of alternatives. > > -- Maya Angelou (1928-2014), American author, poet, and civil rights activist, >I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings (1969) > ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] LTS
On 1/11/2021 10:30 PM, Thomas Stephen Lee wrote: Hi, CentOS Linux can continue as Fedora LTS --- so far it appears going forward RHEL will be the only LTS. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] LTS
On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 12:00:00PM +0530, Thomas Stephen Lee wrote: > > CentOS Linux can continue as Fedora LTS or something similar with a > five-year life cycle. After five years, users can opt for paid upgrades. > We can also work with System manufacturers to pre-install the free LTS on > their products, which will increase our user base. Who is this "we" you speak of? John -- Children's talent to endure stems from their ignorance of alternatives. -- Maya Angelou (1928-2014), American author, poet, and civil rights activist, I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings (1969) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
