Re: [CentOS] LVM, SATA controllers and BIOS devices

2009-05-12 Thread Shad L. Lords
Chris Boyd wrote:
 So I have an issue with CentOS 5.3 i386, LVM, and SATA.
 
 Boot device is a 200GB ATA disk on hda2.
 
 I've added a couple of disks with the on-the-mobo SATA controller ports
 and grown the EXT3 fs with system-config-lvm.
 
 Then, as an experiment, I added a PCI SATA controller and an additional
 disk.  Ran system-config-lvm, added the new space to the existing
 VolGroup00, and all was good.
 
 Feeling confident, I shut the box down and plugged another disk in to
 the PCI SATA controller.  On reboot, I was greeted with a kernel panic
 since the OS could not find really-long-label.  Removing the new SATA
 disk did not fix the issue.

My guess would be that the driver for the new PCI card isn't part of the 
initrd.  If you don't have any data on the drive yet you could always 
reduce the vg so that it is no longer included.  You could also recreate 
your initrd to include the driver for the pci card.

-Shad
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Re: [CentOS] LVM, SATA controllers and BIOS devices

2009-05-12 Thread William L. Maltby

On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 09:47 -0600, Shad L. Lords wrote:
 Chris Boyd wrote:
  So I have an issue with CentOS 5.3 i386, LVM, and SATA.
  
  Boot device is a 200GB ATA disk on hda2.
  
  I've added a couple of disks with the on-the-mobo SATA controller ports
  and grown the EXT3 fs with system-config-lvm.
  
  Then, as an experiment, I added a PCI SATA controller and an additional
  disk.  Ran system-config-lvm, added the new space to the existing
  VolGroup00, and all was good.
  
  Feeling confident, I shut the box down and plugged another disk in to
  the PCI SATA controller.  On reboot, I was greeted with a kernel panic
  since the OS could not find really-long-label.  Removing the new SATA
  disk did not fix the issue.
 
 My guess would be that the driver for the new PCI card isn't part of the 
 initrd.  If you don't have any data on the drive yet you could always 
 reduce the vg so that it is no longer included.  You could also recreate 
 your initrd to include the driver for the pci card.

Alternately, since the BIOS re-assigned the drive letters, the mkinitrd
still contains ignore-lock-failure for only the originally installed
disk. I've successfully handled this (in test and live) by extracting
the mkinitrd (cpio format, IIRC), changing the init to ignore lock
failures on the new disk and making a new initrd. Then it worked.
However, this was for a fall-back for if the first drive got trashed,
the back-up disk had an LV with a slightly modified name and would be
seen as the new sda.

For the OP's situation, might need to search a little further to get to
the same results. But I think it's surely something in the initrd, even
if the driver is the same.

 
 -Shad
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Re: [CentOS] LVM, SATA controllers and BIOS devices

2009-05-12 Thread Chris Boyd

On May 12, 2009, at 11:28 AM, William L. Maltby wrote:

 For the OP's situation, might need to search a little further to get  
 to
 the same results. But I think it's surely something in the initrd,  
 even
 if the driver is the same.

OK, so two hits on initrd, I'll go and read up on that.

Just to be clear, it could still be an initrd issue even if the card  
was working with one drive attached?

--Chris

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Re: [CentOS] LVM, SATA controllers and BIOS devices

2009-05-12 Thread Robert Heller
At Tue, 12 May 2009 11:43:54 -0500 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org 
wrote:

 
 
 On May 12, 2009, at 11:28 AM, William L. Maltby wrote:
 
  For the OP's situation, might need to search a little further to get  
  to
  the same results. But I think it's surely something in the initrd,  
  even
  if the driver is the same.
 
 OK, so two hits on initrd, I'll go and read up on that.
 
 Just to be clear, it could still be an initrd issue even if the card  
 was working with one drive attached?

Yes.  You 'got away' with it when you set it up because the driver
modules, etc. where loaded into the running system during the set it
process.  When you rebooted, the driver modules, etc. were not loaded
or other aspects of the run time environment were not set up.  Updating
the initrd would make sure that the run time environment is properly
initialized early in the boot up process, whether this means loading
driver modules or performing other sorts of set up procedues (such as
scanning for LVM volumes).

 
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Re: [CentOS] LVM, SATA controllers and BIOS devices

2009-05-12 Thread William L. Maltby

On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 11:43 -0500, Chris Boyd wrote:
 On May 12, 2009, at 11:28 AM, William L. Maltby wrote:
 
  For the OP's situation, might need to search a little further to get  
  to
  the same results. But I think it's surely something in the initrd,  
  even
  if the driver is the same.
 
 OK, so two hits on initrd, I'll go and read up on that.
 
 Just to be clear, it could still be an initrd issue even if the card  
 was working with one drive attached?

IMO, yes (maybe). When the Initial install is done, I think there is
some stuff that is needed in the initrd to find the disk so root can be
mounted. I'm not sure which initrd file contains it, but I think it's
got to be there somewhere. There are some more considerations I had
forgotten.

I'm not that familiar with the (relatively) new device manager stuff,
but I would expect that some reference to the equivalent of sda (or
somesuch - maybe a device manager specific construct?) will be in some
files(s).

There is another possibility? Grub installs a stage2 (IIRC) file that
has specific device in it. That's probably your next point of failure (I
don't recall what your original failure mode was).

A brief reminder: when BIOS picks another disk to boot, or finds another
HD and reshuffles, it rotates the drive assignments. Depending on
where it inserted the new HD (let's assume the new one was inserted as
the first drive), what was 0x80 becomes 0x81, former 0x81 becomes
0x82, etc. These equate to {s/h}da, db, etc.

So, you'll probably have a two-step adjustment. The mkinitrd (might be
nothing in there needing changing because it may work off the grub
passed stuff - I don't recall) and a re-install of grub to get the new
stage2 (IIRC). Look also at the /boot/grub/menu.lst - might need
something in there.

Last, you may need to look at /etc/fstab.

I'm sorry I can't be more specific - it's been too long since I worked
with this stuff.

Best I can do w/o actual reading/experimenting is clues.'

 
 --Chris
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HTH
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Re: [CentOS] LVM, SATA controllers and BIOS devices

2009-05-12 Thread William L. Maltby

On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 13:32 -0400, William L. Maltby wrote:
 snip

 There is another possibility? Grub installs a stage2 (IIRC) file that
 has specific device in it. That's probably your next point of failure (I
 don't recall what your original failure mode was).
 snip

P.S. Don't forget to take advantage of the grub edit and search
capability. That'll help determine the settings for menu.lst like
hd(0,0), hd(1,0), etc.

info grub for the details - two brain cells are occupado.

HTH
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Re: [CentOS] LVM, SATA controllers and BIOS devices

2009-05-12 Thread Chris Boyd

On May 12, 2009, at 12:32 PM, William L. Maltby wrote:

 There is another possibility? Grub installs a stage2 (IIRC) file that
 has specific device in it. That's probably your next point of  
 failure (I
 don't recall what your original failure mode was).

The system boots, grub menu starts, counts down and then starts  
booting the next stage.  Then the kernel panics after sitting at Red  
Hat Nash for a bit. Apparently it can't find one of the LVM disks and  
so can't mount root.

--Chris

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