Re: [CentOS] Multimedia Workstation using Centos 6.3

2012-10-16 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, October 15, 2012 05:11:39 PM Nux! wrote:
 I have a lot of multimedia stuff in my repo
 http://li.nux.ro/download/nux/dextop/ 

Ah, yes, forgot about Stella and your repos

 and I'm willing to put some effort
 into backporting from Fedora or create new packages with a multimedia
 focus, time and other resources permit.
 Btw, Ardour3 seems doable.
 If you can come up with a proper list of what's missing, I can look
 into it.

Paul (author of Ardour) doesn't want packaged Ardour3 until it's out of beta, 
but once it's out of beta it would be interesting and doable.  I highly doubt 
any successfully built packages would meet the Fedora packaging guidelines 
(Ardour3 has quite specific requirements, and Paul prefers the in-package 
versions of certain libraries be used instead off the distribution's versions), 
and thus would be a candidate for a third-party repo.  And, of course, this 
isn't Fedora, but packages in the CentOS core do follow the guidelines (pretty 
much, there are exceptions, obviously) that were in effect for the 
corresponding Fedora version (F12/13 in the case of EL6, of course).

Kdenlive similarly has very specific requirements, and they change very 
frequently.

I am in a position to be able to test such packaging, too.
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Re: [CentOS] Multimedia Workstation using Centos 6.3

2012-10-15 Thread Lamar Owen
On Sunday, October 14, 2012 04:26:14 AM Rajagopal Swaminathan wrote:
 Greetings,
 
 [sheepish query]
 
 Are there repositories which will help a centos die-hard nerd to run
 64 studio like workstation (of course bomus will be to pointers to HPC
 with desktops for rendering and the such)?
 
 [/sheepish query]

I personally would find a CentOS-equivalent to AV/Linux ( 
www.bandshed.net/AVLinux.html ) to be nice.  It doesn't really take that long 
to get used to LXDE (which AV/Linux uses as the only desktop) and it's already 
tuned for multimedia.  It is, however, like the defunct 64studio, Debian-
based.  And the version 6 release is the last one, according to its developer.  
But AV/Linux is fast, light, and fully supports the sort of setup you need for 
a non-annoying multimedia-creating experience.  I'm using in in a few places, 
and it has been solid.  But it is different.

The biggest problem I've had with EL6 for multimedia is summed up in two 
words: PulseAudio (counting that as two words).  Good PA/JACK integration, and 
preferrably an RT kernel, are pretty much required for any pro audio tools 
(such as the commercial Ardour++ known as Harrison Mixbus).

Now, I am running Harrison Mixbus on a C6.3 laptop, but it wasn't the easiest 
thing in the world to get running.  Not the hardest, mind you, but not the 
easiest, either.  And I'm not using it for really high track counts with lots 
of overdubs; to do that, I go to the Mac and use it with Mixbus.  Low-latency 
audio and support of pro audio interfaces is required, and some of that 
support is sorely lacking in EL6.  I use the laptop when I have a project in 
the state for final mixdown and I want to work on the mixdown on the road 
but even then I miss some of the things I have on the Mac, like iZotope's 
Ozone and Alloy.  Or Celemony Melodyne.   But I really need the studio monitor 
setup to hear well enough to do the work when I get to needing the tools in 
those programs, so the lack of them on the laptop isn't that big of a deal.

Other things necessary for multimedia would be Kdenlive and/or Cinelerra.  
Both are 'unique' in their build requirements.

Now, John Stanley knows a thing or two about this, being that he's active with 
the Rivendell radio station automation software, and his advice (the list of 
packages for one) is good for these things.

The LinuxTech repo has some of the things you need; what would be, IMO, ideal 
would be something akin to the Fedora 'Jam' spin, but backported to EL6.

I've run PlanetCCRMA stuff before, and Fernando does a great job, but they're 
not EL6 as yet.  It may be that the Fedora *12* or *13* CCRMA packages (and 
there are things only CCRMA packages) will install cleanly; or perhaps the 
source RPM might rebuild cleanly enough to work on EL6.

The biggest issue with an EL6 for multimedia is simply keeping up with the 
dependencies, since many of the really good multimedia tools have really 
specific requirements (look at Ardour3 for something of that nature) that may 
be too new to build easily on EL6.

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Re: [CentOS] Multimedia Workstation using Centos 6.3

2012-10-15 Thread Nux!
On 15.10.2012 18:56, Lamar Owen wrote:
 IMO, ideal
 would be something akin to the Fedora 'Jam' spin, but backported to 
 EL6.

 I've run PlanetCCRMA stuff before, and Fernando does a great job, but
 they're
 not EL6 as yet.  It may be that the Fedora *12* or *13* CCRMA 
 packages (and
 there are things only CCRMA packages) will install cleanly; or 
 perhaps the
 source RPM might rebuild cleanly enough to work on EL6.

 The biggest issue with an EL6 for multimedia is simply keeping up 
 with the
 dependencies, since many of the really good multimedia tools have 
 really
 specific requirements (look at Ardour3 for something of that nature)
 that may
 be too new to build easily on EL6.

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Lamar,

I have a lot of multimedia stuff in my repo 
http://li.nux.ro/download/nux/dextop/ and I'm willing to put some effort 
into backporting from Fedora or create new packages with a multimedia 
focus, time and other resources permit.
Btw, Ardour3 seems doable.
If you can come up with a proper list of what's missing, I can look 
into it.

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Re: [CentOS] Multimedia Workstation using Centos 6.3

2012-10-14 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 10/14/2012 10:26 AM, Rajagopal Swaminathan wrote:
 Greetings,

 [sheepish query]

 Are there repositories which will help a centos die-hard nerd to run
 64 studio like workstation (of course bomus will be to pointers to HPC
 with desktops for rendering and the such)?

 [/sheepish query]


Have you checked repositories listed at 
http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories?


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Re: [CentOS] Multimedia Workstation using Centos 6.3

2012-10-14 Thread Rajagopal Swaminathan
Greetings,

On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic off...@plnet.rs wrote:

 Have you checked repositories listed at
 http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories?



hmm.. Not much there. there used to be ccrma repo for (sorta) C5. but
I couldn't find one for c6... any pointers?

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Re: [CentOS] Multimedia Workstation using Centos 6.3

2012-10-14 Thread Nux!
On 14.10.2012 15:04, Rajagopal Swaminathan wrote:
 Greetings,

 On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic 
 off...@plnet.rs wrote:

 Have you checked repositories listed at
 http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories?



 hmm.. Not much there. there used to be ccrma repo for (sorta) C5. but
 I couldn't find one for c6... any pointers?

What kind of software exactly haven't you been able to find for EL6?

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Re: [CentOS] Multimedia Workstation using Centos 6.3

2012-10-14 Thread Rajagopal Swaminathan
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Nux! n...@li.nux.ro wrote:
 What kind of software exactly haven't you been able to find for EL6?

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Software like:
:64 studio like workstation for centos:




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Re: [CentOS] Multimedia Workstation using Centos 6.3

2012-10-14 Thread Nux!
On 14.10.2012 17:51, Rajagopal Swaminathan wrote:
 On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Nux! n...@li.nux.ro wrote:
 What kind of software exactly haven't you been able to find for EL6?

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 Software like:
 :64 studio like workstation for centos:

I see they have their own iso:
http://www.64studio.com/download

It's still not clear to me which software packages you need.

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Re: [CentOS] Multimedia Workstation using Centos 6.3

2012-10-14 Thread John Stanley
On Sun, 2012-10-14 at 22:21 +0530, Rajagopal Swaminathan wrote:
 Software like:
 :64 studio like workstation for centos:

Are you looking for things like:

lmms
usbmuxd
audacity
vamp-*
rosegarden4
portaudio
pavucontrol
pavumeter
lv2*
libusb1
libmusicbarinz
ladspa
jack-*
gtkpod
fluidsynth
fluid-*



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Re: [CentOS] Multimedia Workstation using Centos 6.3

2012-10-14 Thread John R Pierce
On 10/14/12 9:51 AM, Rajagopal Swaminathan wrote:
 Software like:
 :64 studio like workstation for centos:

which, AFAIK, appears to be a tweaked version of Debian (4.0 aka Etch) 
with some bog stock open source multimedia tools preinstalled, like 
Rosegarden.  It also appears to not have been updated in 3-4 years, and 
most of the package mirrors listed on their website are 404.





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Re: [CentOS] Multimedia Workstation using Centos 6.3

2012-10-14 Thread John R Pierce
On 10/14/12 9:51 AM, Rajagopal Swaminathan wrote:
 Software like:
 :64 studio like workstation for centos:

  2 minutes with google turned up...


http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/installplanetcentosfive.html

yes, its only available for CentOS 5, not 6.  oh well.

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