Re: [CentOS] NTOP alternatives?

2012-08-31 Thread Indunil Jayasooriya
 
  I would like to know on which host should I install it on LAN?
 


 My plan for today is to install darkstar on a separate physical host with
 dual nic's, and tell the switch to copy all traffic on the VLAN's that I
 wish to monitor to one port which will then be connected to one of the
 NIC's on the darkstar host. This feature is called port mirroring on
 ProCurve switches but most professional switches have similar features,
 although they might be called differently.


I think This is an URL for it. Where it shows with a picture.

http://community.spiceworks.com/how_to/show/1261

The same thing for bandwidthd software.

*
Pls assume*, My Network Monitoring Server has *2 Ethernets and also I have
port mirroring capable switch.

*
if one Ethernet of Netwrok monitoring Sever connects to usual port in the
switch, Other LAN PCs also connects to the usual ports of the same switch .
Then, remaining Ethernet of the Monitoring Server should connect to a
mirrored port.

*Then, to which port , Should I connect my router ???

*
to a usual port or mirrored port of that same switch?

if Router should be connected to a mirrored port , We need 2 mirrored port
of the same switch..

Pls let me know since I would like to learn..


  gateway Machine, proxy Server or any host on that LAN?
 

 Alternatively, if you have a gateway machine that all traffic passes
 through, this would also be a good candidate unless traffic is so high that
 the additional load from darkstat impacts performance - or any bug in
 darkstat that just might interrupt regular operations.


IF my Gateway is running squid But NOT in transparent mode, just a usual
way with configurations of users' browsers,

Can I install darkstar or bandwidthd on that gateway box?


I really like to hear from you?




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Re: [CentOS] NTOP alternatives?

2012-08-30 Thread Bent Terp
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Morgan Cox morganco...@gmail.com wrote:

 Have you tried Darkstat - it's a nice very very lightweight alternative

 http://unix4lyfe.org/darkstat/


Hi. Darkstat worked like a charm on my laptop yesterday, for traffic
to/from the laptop. So this morning I've been trying to make it work in the
serverroom.

I've set up a monitoring port on the switch and mirrored a vlan to it. To
this monitoring switch port, I've connected the second nic on a spare
server.

But I can't make it see the traffic:
*Running for* 38 secs*, since* 2012-08-30 08:27:12 UTC+*.*
*Total* 0 *bytes, in* 0 *packets.* (2,512,454 *captured,* 2,494,741 *
dropped)

*And so the graphs are blank :-(

I've tried several incantations to no avail:
usr/local/sbin/darkstat -i eth1 -p 5001 --no-daemon --no-dns -l 
0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0 --local-only
/usr/local/sbin/darkstat -i eth1 -p 5001 --no-daemon --no-dns -l 
0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0
/usr/local/sbin/darkstat -i eth1 -p 5001 --no-daemon --no-dns

I've even tried assigning a bogus ip address on the monitored subnet to
eth1, but that doesn't help either.

Any suggestions?

with kind regards,
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Re: [CentOS] NTOP alternatives?

2012-08-30 Thread Nux!
On 30.08.2012 03:28, Net Foss wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Rafał Radecki
 radecki.ra...@gmail.com wrote:
 After some search I think I will use ntop ;)

 Does anyone know a repo which contains ntop for centos 6.x?
 I have been using ntop for 5.x from rpmforge, but coundn't find RPMS
 for 6.x there.

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Re: [CentOS] NTOP alternatives?

2012-08-29 Thread Rafał Radecki
After some search I think I will use ntop ;)
Thanks for all help.

Best regards,
Rafał.

2012/8/28 Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu

 On Tuesday, August 28, 2012 02:35:25 AM Rafał Radecki wrote:
  Hi all.
 
  I have currently a task to implement a network traffic analyzer. Some
 years
  ago I've used NTOP for that purpose, I would also like to test some
  alternatives.
  Which alternatives can you recommend and why?

 As a package, either the Fedora-based NetworkSecurityToolkit (NST) or the
 loosly-based-on-ubuntu BackTrack are nice.  NST has some very cool
 features, and a web UI that allows some nice options.

 NST runs best on a dedicated piece of hardware; slap a couple of GigE
 NIC's in a good box with dual procs, put one GigE on a SPAN port or a
 hardware tap, install NST on it and configure to your liking.  If you want
 prepackaged updates that you don't have to built yourself, subscribe to the
 NSTPro service.

 www.networksecuritytoolkit.org

 I'm using it here, and coupled with the power and configurability of
 Cisco's SPAN it works really well for troubleshooting.  I'm using it enough
 that I set up my own builder on Fedora 16, and have been building my own
 updates out of NST's SVN, which has been interesting

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Re: [CentOS] NTOP alternatives?

2012-08-29 Thread Bent Terp
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Rafał Radecki radecki.ra...@gmail.comwrote:

 After some search I think I will use ntop ;)


Having lurked in this thread, I think I'll start using ntop as well. Did a
quick test today on my laptop and got it up and running in no time.

But to answer the question people at the office keeps asking me, I need to
dump Network Load data with a 1-second granularity. Does anoybody know how
to do that? Basic question is, do we have large fluctuations on our
internet connection usage.

Thanks in advance!

with kind regards,
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Re: [CentOS] NTOP alternatives?

2012-08-29 Thread Giles Coochey

On 29/08/2012 09:29, Bent Terp wrote:

On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Rafał Radecki radecki.ra...@gmail.comwrote:


After some search I think I will use ntop ;)


Having lurked in this thread, I think I'll start using ntop as well. Did a
quick test today on my laptop and got it up and running in no time.

But to answer the question people at the office keeps asking me, I need to
dump Network Load data with a 1-second granularity. Does anoybody know how
to do that? Basic question is, do we have large fluctuations on our
internet connection usage.

Thanks in advance!

I know it's a Windows utility (WINE??), but we used STG traffic grapher 
in a previous ISP environment. Graphing at a 1s interval is possible, 
looks very much like MRTG.


http://leonidvm.chat.ru/

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Re: [CentOS] NTOP alternatives?

2012-08-29 Thread Morgan Cox
Have you tried Darkstat - it's a nice very very lightweight alternative

http://unix4lyfe.org/darkstat/

ntop has more info though.

regards

Keep rocking the free (opensource) world



On 29 August 2012 09:56, Giles Coochey gi...@coochey.net wrote:
 On 29/08/2012 09:29, Bent Terp wrote:

 On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Rafał Radecki
 radecki.ra...@gmail.comwrote:

 After some search I think I will use ntop ;)

 Having lurked in this thread, I think I'll start using ntop as well. Did a
 quick test today on my laptop and got it up and running in no time.

 But to answer the question people at the office keeps asking me, I need to
 dump Network Load data with a 1-second granularity. Does anoybody know how
 to do that? Basic question is, do we have large fluctuations on our
 internet connection usage.

 Thanks in advance!

 I know it's a Windows utility (WINE??), but we used STG traffic grapher in a
 previous ISP environment. Graphing at a 1s interval is possible, looks very
 much like MRTG.

 http://leonidvm.chat.ru/


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Re: [CentOS] NTOP alternatives?

2012-08-29 Thread Antonio da Silva Martins Junior

- Bent Terp b...@terp.se escreveu:

 De: Bent Terp b...@terp.se
 Para: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
 Enviadas: Quarta-feira, 29 de Agosto de 2012 5:29:07 (GMT-0300) Auto-Detected
 Assunto: Re: [CentOS] NTOP alternatives?

 On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Rafał Radecki
 radecki.ra...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  After some search I think I will use ntop ;)
 
 
 Having lurked in this thread, I think I'll start using ntop as well.
 Did a quick test today on my laptop and got it up and running in no time.
 
 But to answer the question people at the office keeps asking me, I
 need to dump Network Load data with a 1-second granularity. Does anoybody know
 how to do that? Basic question is, do we have large fluctuations on our
 internet connection usage.
 

Hi Bent,

   Give a try to Collectd: www.collectd.org is a RRDTOOL data collect system.

   I use it on various systems without impacts on performance.

   Antonio.

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Re: [CentOS] NTOP alternatives?

2012-08-29 Thread Leon Fauster
Am 29.08.2012 um 12:24 schrieb Antonio da Silva Martins Junior:
 - Bent Terp b...@terp.se escreveu:
 
 De: Bent Terp b...@terp.se
 Para: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
 Enviadas: Quarta-feira, 29 de Agosto de 2012 5:29:07 (GMT-0300) Auto-Detected
 Assunto: Re: [CentOS] NTOP alternatives?
 
 On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Rafał Radecki
 radecki.ra...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 After some search I think I will use ntop ;)
 
 
 Having lurked in this thread, I think I'll start using ntop as well.
 Did a quick test today on my laptop and got it up and running in no time.
 
 But to answer the question people at the office keeps asking me, I
 need to dump Network Load data with a 1-second granularity. Does anoybody 
 know
 how to do that? Basic question is, do we have large fluctuations on our
 internet connection usage.
 
 
 Hi Bent,
 
   Give a try to Collectd: www.collectd.org is a RRDTOOL data collect system.


+1

i use collectd to keep tracked system offloaded and send all data via network 
(encrypted) to a central system.


   I use it on various systems without impacts on performance.

The central system has a continuous data stream onto the storage (my case 
saving 64 incoming samples/minute).
Not a penalty but i would run only the logging service on this central system. 

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Re: [CentOS] NTOP alternatives?

2012-08-29 Thread Net Foss
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Rafał Radecki radecki.ra...@gmail.com wrote:
 After some search I think I will use ntop ;)

Does anyone know a repo which contains ntop for centos 6.x?
I have been using ntop for 5.x from rpmforge, but coundn't find RPMS
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Re: [CentOS] NTOP alternatives?

2012-08-29 Thread Indunil Jayasooriya
Have you tried Darkstat - it's a nice very very lightweight alternative

 http://unix4lyfe.org/darkstat/


I installed it on Centos 6.2 (64 bit VM). It is pretty light.

I would like to know on which host should I install it on LAN?

gateway Machine, proxy Server or any host on that LAN?


I just installed on a host On  a LAN. But, It does NOT show All the host on
the LAN.

It does NOT show my mail gateway. It is on the same LAN.

Then, How can get actual traffic on my LAN ?


Anyway, If clicked host link, It shows in , out , total traffic? It is
bytes?

I think it is in byte?



ntop has more info though.


I have used this since long time. many options. very difficult to
understand.



what about bandwidthd ?  I have tried twice. On which host, Should I
install it to see network traffic my lan?


really like to hear from you.









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Re: [CentOS] NTOP alternatives?

2012-08-29 Thread Bent Terp
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 4:32 AM, Indunil Jayasooriya induni...@gmail.comwrote:

 Have you tried Darkstat - it's a nice very very lightweight alternative
 
  http://unix4lyfe.org/darkstat/
 
 
 I installed it on Centos 6.2 (64 bit VM). It is pretty light.

 I would like to know on which host should I install it on LAN?


If you want it to be able to see all traffic on the local network, then you
have to make sure all the traffic actually shows up on that interface -
which is not usually the case on a switched network :-)

My plan for today is to install darkstar on a separate physical host with
dual nic's, and tell the switch to copy all traffic on the VLAN's that I
wish to monitor to one port which will then be connected to one of the
NIC's on the darkstar host. This feature is called port mirroring on
ProCurve switches but most professional switches have similar features,
although they might be called differently.


 gateway Machine, proxy Server or any host on that LAN?


Alternatively, if you have a gateway machine that all traffic passes
through, this would also be a good candidate unless traffic is so high that
the additional load from darkstat impacts performance - or any bug in
darkstat that just might interrupt regular operations.

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Re: [CentOS] NTOP alternatives?

2012-08-28 Thread Giles Coochey

On 28/08/2012 07:35, Rafał Radecki wrote:

Hi all.

I have currently a task to implement a network traffic analyzer. Some years
ago I've used NTOP for that purpose, I would also like to test some
alternatives.
Which alternatives can you recommend and why?

Thanks ;)

If you looking at just a netflow web-frontend  netflow processing I 
quite like nfsen / nfdump


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Re: [CentOS] NTOP alternatives?

2012-08-28 Thread Les Mikesell
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Giles Coochey gi...@coochey.net wrote:
 On 28/08/2012 07:35, Rafał Radecki wrote:

 Hi all.

 I have currently a task to implement a network traffic analyzer. Some
 years
 ago I've used NTOP for that purpose, I would also like to test some
 alternatives.
 Which alternatives can you recommend and why?

 Thanks ;)

 If you looking at just a netflow web-frontend  netflow processing I quite
 like nfsen / nfdump

Or for one-off capture/analysis runs, wireshark is pretty good.   I
doubt if anything will match ntop for continuous captures with the
ability to summarize in a large variety of ways.

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Re: [CentOS] NTOP alternatives?

2012-08-28 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, August 28, 2012 02:35:25 AM Rafał Radecki wrote:
 Hi all.
 
 I have currently a task to implement a network traffic analyzer. Some years
 ago I've used NTOP for that purpose, I would also like to test some
 alternatives.
 Which alternatives can you recommend and why?

As a package, either the Fedora-based NetworkSecurityToolkit (NST) or the 
loosly-based-on-ubuntu BackTrack are nice.  NST has some very cool features, 
and a web UI that allows some nice options.

NST runs best on a dedicated piece of hardware; slap a couple of GigE NIC's in 
a good box with dual procs, put one GigE on a SPAN port or a hardware tap, 
install NST on it and configure to your liking.  If you want prepackaged 
updates that you don't have to built yourself, subscribe to the NSTPro service.

www.networksecuritytoolkit.org

I'm using it here, and coupled with the power and configurability of Cisco's 
SPAN it works really well for troubleshooting.  I'm using it enough that I set 
up my own builder on Fedora 16, and have been building my own updates out of 
NST's SVN, which has been interesting

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