Re: [CentOS] Slightly OT : newsletters, mail formatting and netiquette

[hw]

Nicolas Kovacs wrote:

Hi,

This question is not exactly CentOS-related strictly speaking, but here
goes. I'm running a few newsletter servers for myself and a handful of
clients on public CentOS servers with PHPList.

For the last twenty years or so I've followed the basic rule that mails
should have no formatting whatsoever, only simple text. And now I wonder
if that basic rule of netiquette also applies to newsletters.

I'm a subscriber to a series of tech-related newsletters, and I couldn't
help but notice that they all seem to be HTML-formatted, even those from
respectable hardcore geek groups.

So my somewhat naive question: is HTML formatting acceptable in
newsletters?


Most so-called "newsletters" nowadays are only a collection of URLs and do not
contain any news or any information at all.  That totally defeats the purpose
of a newsletter and makes them entirely useless.

So no, it´s unacceptable.  HTML mail automatically goes into my spam folder
anyway, and I avoid subscribing to so-called "newsletters".
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Re: [CentOS] Slightly OT : newsletters, mail formatting and netiquette

[Nicolas Kovacs]

Le 02/02/2018 à 16:03, Mikhail Utin a écrit :
> The same story is in OS desktop GUI including Linux. I use CentOS 6
> and 7 and still do not like 7. Not to mention in the morning Win 10
> with all its crap included.

On a side note, I've written a complete post-install script for CentOS 7
and an Xfce-based bells-and-whistles desktop that starts from a minimal
installation.

https://blog.microlinux.fr/poste-de-travail-xfce-centos-7/

And here's the script:

https://github.com/kikinovak/centos-7-desktop-xfce

Cheers,

Niki

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Re: [CentOS] Slightly OT : newsletters, mail formatting and netiquette

[Mikhail Utin]

I would prefer simple text in tech and security related news but you are right 
- they are HTML formatted. I think it is pure marketing thing. people dump 
other stuff to remind you who they are and for a sort of entertaining us.

The same story is in OS desktop GUI including Linux. I use CentOS 6 and 7 and 
still do not like 7. Not to mention in the morning Win 10 with all its crap 
included.


Mikhail Utin



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Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 04:36
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Subject: [CentOS] Slightly OT : newsletters, mail formatting and netiquette

Hi,

This question is not exactly CentOS-related strictly speaking, but here
goes. I'm running a few newsletter servers for myself and a handful of
clients on public CentOS servers with PHPList.

For the last twenty years or so I've followed the basic rule that mails
should have no formatting whatsoever, only simple text. And now I wonder
if that basic rule of netiquette also applies to newsletters.

I'm a subscriber to a series of tech-related newsletters, and I couldn't
help but notice that they all seem to be HTML-formatted, even those from
respectable hardcore geek groups.

So my somewhat naive question: is HTML formatting acceptable in
newsletters?

Cheers,

Niki
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Re: [CentOS] Slightly OT : newsletters, mail formatting and netiquette

[m . roth]

Cameron Smith wrote:
> Look into mutipart and offer both html and plain text in the same email.
> This allows the client to view it as they see fit.
>
> If you do send html it has a much more restrictive implementation than
> html
> and css for a webpage so study up on what you can and can't do.
> Mailchimp has some great info about this.
>
Personally, I'd suggest giving the subscribers the *option* of either. I
really dislike HTML email, and even when I can read it, it's *really*
ugly.

But then, I also consider HTML email a *great* way to spread malware.

mark
> Cameron
>
> On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 1:36 AM, Nicolas Kovacs  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> This question is not exactly CentOS-related strictly speaking, but here
>> goes. I'm running a few newsletter servers for myself and a handful of
>> clients on public CentOS servers with PHPList.
>>
>> For the last twenty years or so I've followed the basic rule that mails
>> should have no formatting whatsoever, only simple text. And now I wonder
>> if that basic rule of netiquette also applies to newsletters.
>>
>> I'm a subscriber to a series of tech-related newsletters, and I couldn't
>> help but notice that they all seem to be HTML-formatted, even those from
>> respectable hardcore geek groups.
>>
>> So my somewhat naive question: is HTML formatting acceptable in
>> newsletters?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Niki
>> --
>> Microlinux - Solutions informatiques durables
>> 7, place de l'église - 30730 Montpezat
>> Site : https://www.microlinux.fr
>> Blog : https://blog.microlinux.fr
>> Mail : i...@microlinux.fr
>> Tél. : 04 66 63 10 32
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Re: [CentOS] Slightly OT : newsletters, mail formatting and netiquette

[Cameron Smith]

Look into mutipart and offer both html and plain text in the same email.
This allows the client to view it as they see fit.

If you do send html it has a much more restrictive implementation than html
and css for a webpage so study up on what you can and can't do.
Mailchimp has some great info about this.

Cameron

On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 1:36 AM, Nicolas Kovacs  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> This question is not exactly CentOS-related strictly speaking, but here
> goes. I'm running a few newsletter servers for myself and a handful of
> clients on public CentOS servers with PHPList.
>
> For the last twenty years or so I've followed the basic rule that mails
> should have no formatting whatsoever, only simple text. And now I wonder
> if that basic rule of netiquette also applies to newsletters.
>
> I'm a subscriber to a series of tech-related newsletters, and I couldn't
> help but notice that they all seem to be HTML-formatted, even those from
> respectable hardcore geek groups.
>
> So my somewhat naive question: is HTML formatting acceptable in
> newsletters?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Niki
> --
> Microlinux - Solutions informatiques durables
> 7, place de l'église - 30730 Montpezat
> Site : https://www.microlinux.fr
> Blog : https://blog.microlinux.fr
> Mail : i...@microlinux.fr
> Tél. : 04 66 63 10 32
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Re: [CentOS] Slightly OT : newsletters, mail formatting and netiquette

[Nux!]

Not only is it acceptable, but it has become the norm unfortunately.

If you do switch to HTML format, bare in mind it may have consequences on how 
other servers label you (or not) as SPAM, so do a few thorough test rounds.

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- Original Message -
> From: "Nicolas Kovacs" 
> To: "CentOS mailing list" 
> Sent: Friday, 2 February, 2018 09:36:14
> Subject: [CentOS] Slightly OT : newsletters, mail formatting and netiquette

> Hi,
> 
> This question is not exactly CentOS-related strictly speaking, but here
> goes. I'm running a few newsletter servers for myself and a handful of
> clients on public CentOS servers with PHPList.
> 
> For the last twenty years or so I've followed the basic rule that mails
> should have no formatting whatsoever, only simple text. And now I wonder
> if that basic rule of netiquette also applies to newsletters.
> 
> I'm a subscriber to a series of tech-related newsletters, and I couldn't
> help but notice that they all seem to be HTML-formatted, even those from
> respectable hardcore geek groups.
> 
> So my somewhat naive question: is HTML formatting acceptable in
> newsletters?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Niki
> --
> Microlinux - Solutions informatiques durables
> 7, place de l'église - 30730 Montpezat
> Site : https://www.microlinux.fr
> Blog : https://blog.microlinux.fr
> Mail : i...@microlinux.fr
> Tél. : 04 66 63 10 32
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