Re: [CentOS] Virtualization software to install Windows as guest on CentOS 5 as host ?
Christopher Chan wrote: On Thursday, February 04, 2010 03:48 PM, Hadi Motamedi wrote: Dear All I need to install Windows as guest on my CentOS 5 as host . Can you please give me the link to download the requierd rpm package for this purpose ? Thank you yum install kvm Then search for virtio drivers. Redhat provides virtio block drivers for Windows Vista, 7, 2008. I may be mistaken, but I thought those were only available to RHN subscribers, and are not open source or free to redistribute. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Virtualization software to install Windows as guest on CentOS 5 as host ?
On Thursday, February 04, 2010 04:04 PM, John R Pierce wrote: Christopher Chan wrote: On Thursday, February 04, 2010 03:48 PM, Hadi Motamedi wrote: Dear All I need to install Windows as guest on my CentOS 5 as host . Can you please give me the link to download the requierd rpm package for this purpose ? Thank you yum install kvm Then search for virtio drivers. Redhat provides virtio block drivers for Windows Vista, 7, 2008. I may be mistaken, but I thought those were only available to RHN subscribers, and are not open source or free to redistribute. The virtio block drivers? Really? I think I remember something about it being leaked...need to check ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Virtualization software to install Windows as guest on CentOS 5 as host ?
On Thursday, February 04, 2010 04:14 PM, Christopher Chan wrote: On Thursday, February 04, 2010 04:04 PM, John R Pierce wrote: Christopher Chan wrote: On Thursday, February 04, 2010 03:48 PM, Hadi Motamedi wrote: Dear All I need to install Windows as guest on my CentOS 5 as host . Can you please give me the link to download the requierd rpm package for this purpose ? Thank you yum install kvm Then search for virtio drivers. Redhat provides virtio block drivers for Windows Vista, 7, 2008. I may be mistaken, but I thought those were only available to RHN subscribers, and are not open source or free to redistribute. The virtio block drivers? Really? I think I remember something about it being leaked...need to check Nope http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/WindowsGuestDrivers/Download_Drivers ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Virtualization software to install Windows as guest on CentOS 5 as host ?
I may be mistaken, but I thought those were only available to RHN subscribers, and are not open source or free to redistribute. The virtio block drivers? Really? I think I remember something about it being leaked...need to check Nope http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/WindowsGuestDrivers/Download_Drivers ah, good. that was a big gap a year or so ago when I was investigating free virtualization for Windows ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Virtualization software to install Windows as guest on CentOS 5 as host ?
2010/2/3 Hadi Motamedi motamed...@hotmail.com: Dear All I need to install Windows as guest on my CentOS 5 as host . Can you please give me the link to download the requierd rpm package for this purpose ? I use VMWare Server - it's free from VMWare, though I'm using version 1.0.8, and I hear version 2.0 has some issues with CentOS. I have also heard about others on this list - check the archives for virtualized OS support. I think the most recent recommendation was for Sun's VirtualBox, and there's also the built-in xen (though I hear good and bad about that, too). HTH mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Virtualization software to install Windows as guest on CentOS 5 as host ?
John R Pierce wrote: I may be mistaken, but I thought those were only available to RHN subscribers, and are not open source or free to redistribute. The virtio block drivers? Really? I think I remember something about it being leaked...need to check Nope http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/WindowsGuestDrivers/Download_Drivers ah, good. that was a big gap a year or so ago when I was investigating free virtualization for Windows I might be wrong, but I don't think the freely available drivers are signed, unlike the virtio drivers supplied by Red Hat through the Supplementary channel which are signed. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Virtualization software to install Windows as guest on CentOS 5 as host ?
Christopher Chan wrote: On Thursday, February 04, 2010 03:48 PM, Hadi Motamedi wrote: Dear All I need to install Windows as guest on my CentOS 5 as host . Can you please give me the link to download the requierd rpm package for this purpose ? Thank you yum install kvm Then search for virtio drivers. Redhat provides virtio block drivers for Windows Vista, 7, 2008. What benefits may provide me the virtio drivers ? Also what suggestions do you have about running win2k3, win2k8 server as a guests on CentOS5 kvm host ? I'm interesting about disk organization for guest OS at first. Thx! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Virtualization software to install Windows as guest on CentOS 5 as host ?
Sergej Kandyla wrote: Christopher Chan wrote: On Thursday, February 04, 2010 03:48 PM, Hadi Motamedi wrote: Dear All I need to install Windows as guest on my CentOS 5 as host . Can you please give me the link to download the requierd rpm package for this purpose ? Thank you yum install kvm Then search for virtio drivers. Redhat provides virtio block drivers for Windows Vista, 7, 2008. What benefits may provide me the virtio drivers ? They make use of the paravirtualized virtio framework which is orders of magnitude faster than fully virtualized i/o. Also what suggestions do you have about running win2k3, win2k8 server as a guests on CentOS5 kvm host ? Well, somebody said use AMD cpus because they are more stable but I have never managed to get that validated. I'm interesting about disk organization for guest OS at first. If you need performance, you need paravirtualized i/o. With a kvm solution, that means going through virtio. I think Xen has its own solution to this and other than this, I know nothing about vmware and virtualbox on this score. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Virtualization software to install Windows as guest on CentOS 5 as host ?
No no no not kvm Vmware are the best -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] För Chan Chung Hang Christopher Skickat: den 4 februari 2010 16:19 Till: centos@centos.org Ämne: Re: [CentOS] Virtualization software to install Windows as guest on CentOS 5 as host ? Sergej Kandyla wrote: Christopher Chan wrote: On Thursday, February 04, 2010 03:48 PM, Hadi Motamedi wrote: Dear All I need to install Windows as guest on my CentOS 5 as host . Can you please give me the link to download the requierd rpm package for this purpose ? Thank you yum install kvm Then search for virtio drivers. Redhat provides virtio block drivers for Windows Vista, 7, 2008. What benefits may provide me the virtio drivers ? They make use of the paravirtualized virtio framework which is orders of magnitude faster than fully virtualized i/o. Also what suggestions do you have about running win2k3, win2k8 server as a guests on CentOS5 kvm host ? Well, somebody said use AMD cpus because they are more stable but I have never managed to get that validated. I'm interesting about disk organization for guest OS at first. If you need performance, you need paravirtualized i/o. With a kvm solution, that means going through virtio. I think Xen has its own solution to this and other than this, I know nothing about vmware and virtualbox on this score. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Virtualization software to install Windows as guest on CentOS 5 as host ?
I know nothing about vmware and virtualbox on this score. VMware ESX(i) has their own set of optimized drivers for disks (and Lan). Forget the names off the top but they are paravirtualised and are available for Linux Windows. -- Drew Nothing in life is to be feared. It is only to be understood. --Marie Curie ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Virtualization software to install Windows as guest on CentOS 5 as host ?
No no no not kvm Vmware are the best Yes and No. Each has their own strengths and their own weaknesses. I use ESXi in production because the smaller footprint and 3rd party tools I have make management backup exceptionally simple to use. I'm also supporting a mixed Windows / Linux shop so I already have a Windows PC that runs the management apps. Only thing I don't like is not being able to log into VM's from the console, something I can do with KVM/Xen. I'm playing around with KVM and Xen at home because the host in each case is my home PCs. I use them because I have a few tools I use as a student that only run on Windows, and my wife isn't fully converted to Linux yet. :-) -- Drew Nothing in life is to be feared. It is only to be understood. --Marie Curie ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Virtualization software to install Windows as guest on CentOS 5 as host ?
On 2/4/2010 9:47 AM, Drew wrote: I know nothing about vmware and virtualbox on this score. VMware ESX(i) has their own set of optimized drivers for disks (and Lan). Forget the names off the top but they are paravirtualised and are available for Linux Windows. Yes, if someone is starting from scratch with this setup they should seriously consider running ESXi natively on the hardware and run Centos and windows guests under it instead of one OS native and the other virtualized. The performance and management tools are very good, considering that it is free as long as you don't want to manage them in clusters. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Virtualization software to install Windows as guest on CentOS 5 as host ?
On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 12:36 +, Ned Slider wrote: I might be wrong, but I don't think the freely available drivers are signed, unlike the virtio drivers supplied by Red Hat through the Supplementary channel which are signed. The download page that was just posted here says: QUOTE: Code signing drivers for the Windows 64bit platforms Drivers should be signed for Windows 64bit platforms. Here are some links how to self sign and install self signed drivers: END OF QUOTE so I guess you can do that part yourself. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Virtualization software to install Windows as guest on CentOS 5 as host ?
Frank Cox wrote: On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 12:36 +, Ned Slider wrote: I might be wrong, but I don't think the freely available drivers are signed, unlike the virtio drivers supplied by Red Hat through the Supplementary channel which are signed. The download page that was just posted here says: QUOTE: Code signing drivers for the Windows 64bit platforms Drivers should be signed for Windows 64bit platforms. Here are some links how to self sign and install self signed drivers: END OF QUOTE so I guess you can do that part yourself. Yes, you can sign the drivers yourself, but the issue as I understand it is that for the drivers to work with Windows (Vista, Server 2008, Win7 ??), they need to be signed by a cert that has a chain of trust to Microsoft's root cert. Red Hat (and others) have such a cert and have appropriately signed drivers for their customers. I /believe/ the drivers are redistributable, but they are not signed. Disclosure: I am not a Windows expert! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Virtualization software to install Windows as guest on CentOS 5 as host ?
On 2/4/2010 10:14 AM, Drew wrote: No no no not kvm Vmware are the best Yes and No. Each has their own strengths and their own weaknesses. I use ESXi in production because the smaller footprint and 3rd party tools I have make management backup exceptionally simple to use. I'm also supporting a mixed Windows / Linux shop so I already have a Windows PC that runs the management apps. Only thing I don't like is not being able to log into VM's from the console, something I can do with KVM/Xen. I'm playing around with KVM and Xen at home because the host in each case is my home PCs. I use them because I have a few tools I use as a student that only run on Windows, and my wife isn't fully converted to Linux yet. :-) VMware player would work fine for your 2nd scenario. Or Server if you want to divorce the VM from its console, but on a desktop/laptop PC it is generally an advantage to have them tied together and avoids the ugliness of the 2.x Server web-based console. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Virtualization software to install Windows as guest on CentOS 5 as host ?
Ned Slider wrote: Yes, you can sign the drivers yourself, but the issue as I understand it is that for the drivers to work with Windows (Vista, Server 2008, Win7 ??), they need to be signed by a cert that has a chain of trust to Microsoft's root cert. Red Hat (and others) have such a cert and have appropriately signed drivers for their customers. I /believe/ the drivers are redistributable, but they are not signed. the selfsign procedure involves creating your own selfsigned cert, and registering it with the system, then it will accept drivers signed by that cert. this process is intended for driver developers to be able to test their work in progress. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Virtualization software to install Windows as guest on CentOS 5 as host ?
Drew wrote: I know nothing about vmware and virtualbox on this score. VMware ESX(i) has their own set of optimized drivers for disks (and Lan). Forget the names off the top but they are paravirtualised and are available for Linux Windows. the drivers are called 'vmware tools'. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Virtualization software to install Windows as guest on CentOS 5 as host ?
I need to install Windows as guest on my CentOS 5 as host. Can you please give me the link to download the requierd rpm package for this purpose ? The RedHat Virtualization Guide gives you all the info you will need: http://www.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5.4/html/Virtuali zation_Guide/index.html http://www.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5.4/html/Virtualiz ation_Guide/index.html -- Neil Aggarwal, (281)846-8957 FREE trial: cPanel VPS with unmetered bandwidth http://UnmeteredVPS.net/cpanel ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Virtualization software to install Windows as guest on CentOS 5 as host ?
On Thursday, February 04, 2010 03:48 PM, Hadi Motamedi wrote: Dear All I need to install Windows as guest on my CentOS 5 as host . Can you please give me the link to download the requierd rpm package for this purpose ? Thank you yum install kvm Then search for virtio drivers. Redhat provides virtio block drivers for Windows Vista, 7, 2008. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
