Re: [CentOS] fasttest mirror -doesnt seem to pick sites near my region

2009-08-26 Thread Linux Advocate


my region
 
 Linux Advocate wrote:
  johny, thanx for the link.
 
  i think 'my' should point to jp, cn, tw, au,sg. the setup u have there is 
   
 ;)
   
 
 do all ISP's in .MY use the same peering/trunking or do different 
 providers have different sorts of international backbone connections?
 


different. we have routes to sg, tw (jp, cn) and then one to au.



  
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Re: [CentOS] fasttest mirror -doesnt seem to pick sites near my region

2009-08-24 Thread Linux Advocate

 
 inetnum:  60.48.0.0 -  60.54.255.255
 netname:  XDSLSTREAMYX
 descr:Telekom Malaysia Berhad
 descr:Network Strategy
 descr:Wisma Telekom
 descr:Jalan Pantai Baru
 descr:50672 Kuala Lumpur
 country:  MY
 
 .
 
 A couple different geo-ip databases I queried on the web 
 (geoiptool.com   maxmind.com) concurred 


yes. so normally i choose mirrors frm taiwan, japan, australia... always got 
the best speeds frm them.



  
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Re: [CentOS] fasttest mirror -doesnt seem to pick sites near my region

2009-08-24 Thread Linux Advocate

 John R Pierce wrote:
  fwiw, it appears linux advocate is sending his email from a Malaysia 
  IP per the email headres...
  
  $ whois 60.50.xxx.yyy
  [Querying whois.apnic.net]
  [whois.apnic.net]
  % [whois.apnic.net node-2]
  % Whois data copyright termshttp://www.apnic.net/db/dbcopyright.html
  
  inetnum:  60.48.0.0 -  60.54.255.255
  netname:  XDSLSTREAMYX
  descr:Telekom Malaysia Berhad
  descr:Network Strategy
  descr:Wisma Telekom
  descr:Jalan Pantai Baru
  descr:50672 Kuala Lumpur
  country:  MY
  
 
 For the record on this one, it seems that our version of the geoip
 database does not do a proper lookup for IP addresses in the 60.50.50.50
 (as an example IP of that range).
 
 What I get is unknown (with our current version).  When unknown, it
 passes a list of high bandwidth machines.
 
 I will get and build a newer version of the GeoIP database and see if I
 can get a better result.
 

johny, are u the maintainer for the geo-ip database?



  
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Re: [CentOS] fasttest mirror -doesnt seem to pick sites near my region

2009-08-24 Thread Linux Advocate



  
 #mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releaseverarch=$basearchrepo=os
  baseurl=ftp://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/centos/$releasever/os/$basearch/
  gpgcheck=1
  gpgkey=ftp://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/centos/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5
  
  Regards,
  Oliver
 
 I have done this;
 
 -disabled the fastestmirror plugin ( frm the conf file by setting enabled=0 )
 -modified CentOS-Base.repo
 
 [base-1]
 name=CentOS-5 - Base
 #mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=5arch=i386repo=os
 baseurl=http://ftp.riken.jp/Linux/centos/$releasever/os/$basearch/
 exclude=postfix* perl-MIME-Base64 perl-DBI
 priority=1
 enabled=1
 
 
 what about the rpmforge repos?


Will this link do?

http://ftp.riken.jp/Linux/dag/redhat/el5/en/i386/rpmforge/RPMS/ 


  
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Re: [CentOS] fasttest mirror -doesnt seem to pick sites near my region

2009-08-24 Thread Linux Advocate

 
 If you take a look in /etc/yum.repos.d/ you will see a number of  
 files. There should be example baseurl lines in the repo files which  
 will be commented out by default. Here's an example of how I use this  
 to manually use my local ISPs mirror for the base repo:
 
 [base]
 name=CentOS-$releasever - Base
 #mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releaseverarch=$basearchrepo=os
 baseurl=ftp://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/centos/$releasever/os/$basearch/
 gpgcheck=1
 gpgkey=ftp://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/centos/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5
 
 Regards,
 Oliver

I have done this;

-disabled the fastestmirror plugin ( frm the conf file by setting enabled=0 )
-modified CentOS-Base.repo

[base-1]
name=CentOS-5 - Base
#mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=5arch=i386repo=os
baseurl=http://ftp.riken.jp/Linux/centos/$releasever/os/$basearch/
exclude=postfix* perl-MIME-Base64 perl-DBI
priority=1
enabled=1


what about the rpmforge repos?


  
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Re: [CentOS] fasttest mirror -doesnt seem to pick sites near my region

2009-08-24 Thread Linux Advocate

 
 
  my repos are configured to use mirrorlist. how do i add mirrors  
  manually?
 
 
 If you take a look in /etc/yum.repos.d/ you will see a number of  
 files. There should be example baseurl lines in the repo files which  
 will be commented out by default. Here's an example of how I use this  
 to manually use my local ISPs mirror for the base repo:
 
 [base]
 name=CentOS-$releasever - Base
 #mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releaseverarch=$basearchrepo=os
 baseurl=ftp://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/centos/$releasever/os/$basearch/
 gpgcheck=1
 gpgkey=ftp://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/centos/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5
 
 Regards,
 Oliver


oliver what kind of speeds do u get? what line do u have? i have a 1.0 mbps adsl



  
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Re: [CentOS] fasttest mirror -doesnt seem to pick sites near my region

2009-08-24 Thread Oliver Ransom

On 24/08/2009, at 7:06 PM, Linux Advocate wrote:




 my repos are configured to use mirrorlist. how do i add mirrors
 manually?


 If you take a look in /etc/yum.repos.d/ you will see a number of
 files. There should be example baseurl lines in the repo files which
 will be commented out by default. Here's an example of how I use this
 to manually use my local ISPs mirror for the base repo:

 [base]
 name=CentOS-$releasever - Base
 #mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releaseverarch=$basearchrepo=os
 baseurl=ftp://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/centos/$releasever/os/$basearch/
 gpgcheck=1
 gpgkey=ftp://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/centos/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5

 Regards,
 Oliver


 oliver what kind of speeds do u get? what line do u have? i have a  
 1.0 mbps adsl


I get 10Mbits from my own ISP's mirror, and I'd probably get the same  
from any other official Australian mirror sites. I have ADSL2+. If I  
tried any mirror sites outside of Australia it would probably be  
noticeably slower. If you're in SE Asia I'd imagine any mirror site in  
Singapore or Korea or Japan should be quite fast. Those countries seem  
to be the main hubs for traffic in that region.

Regards,
Oliver




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Re: [CentOS] fasttest mirror -doesnt seem to pick sites near my region

2009-08-24 Thread Linux Advocate



 #mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releaseverarch=$basearchrepo=os
  baseurl=ftp://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/centos/$releasever/os/$basearch/
  gpgcheck=1
  gpgkey=ftp://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/centos/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5
 
  Regards,
  Oliver
 
 
  oliver what kind of speeds do u get? what line do u have? i have a  
  1.0 mbps adsl
 
 
 I get 10Mbits from my own ISP's mirror, and I'd probably get the same  
 from any other official Australian mirror sites. I have ADSL2+. If I  
 tried any mirror sites outside of Australia it would probably be  
 noticeably slower. If you're in SE Asia I'd imagine any mirror site in  
 Singapore or Korea or Japan should be quite fast. Those countries seem  
 to be the main hubs for traffic in that region.
 

what site do u use for rpmforge?



  
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Re: [CentOS] fasttest mirror -doesnt seem to pick sites near my region

2009-08-24 Thread Johnny Hughes
Linux Advocate wrote:
 John R Pierce wrote:
 fwiw, it appears linux advocate is sending his email from a Malaysia 
 IP per the email headres...

 $ whois 60.50.xxx.yyy
 [Querying whois.apnic.net]
 [whois.apnic.net]
 % [whois.apnic.net node-2]
 % Whois data copyright termshttp://www.apnic.net/db/dbcopyright.html

 inetnum:  60.48.0.0 -  60.54.255.255
 netname:  XDSLSTREAMYX
 descr:Telekom Malaysia Berhad
 descr:Network Strategy
 descr:Wisma Telekom
 descr:Jalan Pantai Baru
 descr:50672 Kuala Lumpur
 country:  MY

 For the record on this one, it seems that our version of the geoip
 database does not do a proper lookup for IP addresses in the 60.50.50.50
 (as an example IP of that range).

 What I get is unknown (with our current version).  When unknown, it
 passes a list of high bandwidth machines.

 I will get and build a newer version of the GeoIP database and see if I
 can get a better result.

 
 johny, are u the maintainer for the geo-ip database?

I maintain the RPM that is used as part of CentOS Extras and that we use
on the CentOS servers in question.

I did some major work on the app that CentOS uses for mirrorlists and
isolists over the weekend.  Especially in the AP region, as we have
picked up some mirrors there recently.

Here is a thread that shows the relationship logic of the app:

http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2009-August/081033.html

If people who think the lists need to change will tell me the good and
bad servers for their country, I can change the logic.

Thanks,
Johnny Hughes



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Re: [CentOS] fasttest mirror -doesnt seem to pick sites near my region

2009-08-24 Thread Linux Advocate

 
 I maintain the RPM that is used as part of CentOS Extras and that we use
 on the CentOS servers in question.
 
 I did some major work on the app that CentOS uses for mirrorlists and
 isolists over the weekend.  Especially in the AP region, as we have
 picked up some mirrors there recently.
 
 Here is a thread that shows the relationship logic of the app:
 
 http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2009-August/081033.html
 
 If people who think the lists need to change will tell me the good and
 bad servers for their country, I can change the logic.
 
 Thanks,
 Johnny Hughes


johny, thanx for the link.

i think 'my' should point to jp, cn, tw, au,sg. the setup u have there is  
;)



  
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Re: [CentOS] fasttest mirror -doesnt seem to pick sites near my region

2009-08-24 Thread John R Pierce
Linux Advocate wrote:
 johny, thanx for the link.

 i think 'my' should point to jp, cn, tw, au,sg. the setup u have there is 
  ;)
   

do all ISP's in .MY use the same peering/trunking or do different 
providers have different sorts of international backbone connections?


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Re: [CentOS] fasttest mirror -doesnt seem to pick sites near my region

2009-08-22 Thread Linux Advocate
i have tried yum clean all , yum clean metadata



- Original Message 
 From: Linux Advocate linuxhous...@yahoo.com
 To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
 Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 8:56:37 PM
 Subject: [CentOS] fasttest mirror -doesnt seem to pick sites near my region
 
 guys, i have the yum plugin - fastest mirror . But not even once i have seen 
 it 
 selecting repos which are near my region such as japan or australia ( where i 
 get the best speeds). Something is wrong.
 
 It seems stuck with these 3 sites ;
 
 Determining fastest mirrors
 * ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de : 0.309373 secs
 * apt.sw.be : 0.483867 secs
 * fr2.rpmfind.net : 0.503842 secs
 


  
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Re: [CentOS] fasttest mirror -doesnt seem to pick sites near my region

2009-08-22 Thread Oliver Ransom

On 22/08/2009, at 10:37 PM, Linux Advocate wrote:

 i have tried yum clean all , yum clean metadata



 - Original Message 
 From: Linux Advocate linuxhous...@yahoo.com
 To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
 Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 8:56:37 PM
 Subject: [CentOS] fasttest mirror -doesnt seem to pick sites near  
 my region

 guys, i have the yum plugin - fastest mirror . But not even once i  
 have seen it
 selecting repos which are near my region such as japan or australia  
 ( where i
 get the best speeds). Something is wrong.

 It seems stuck with these 3 sites ;

 Determining fastest mirrors
 * ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de : 0.309373 secs
 * apt.sw.be : 0.483867 secs
 * fr2.rpmfind.net : 0.503842 secs




Hi Linux Advocate,

I have found this a problem for the Australian servers I manage as  
well. I suggest you manually test the speed of some local mirrors then  
manually specify a mirror rather than relying on the fastest mirror  
plugin.

If your ISP mirrors content locally then that'd be the logical mirror  
to use.

Good luck,
Oliver






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Re: [CentOS] fasttest mirror -doesnt seem to pick sites near my region

2009-08-22 Thread Linux Advocate

 Hi Linux Advocate,
 
 I have found this a problem for the Australian servers I manage as  
 well. I suggest you manually test the speed of some local mirrors then  
 manually specify a mirror rather than relying on the fastest mirror  
 plugin.
 
 If your ISP mirrors content locally then that'd be the logical mirror  
 to use.


my repos are configured to use mirrorlist. how do i add mirrors manually?



  
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Re: [CentOS] fasttest mirror -doesnt seem to pick sites near my region

2009-08-22 Thread Johnny Hughes
John R Pierce wrote:
 fwiw, it appears linux advocate is sending his email from a Malaysia 
 IP per the email headres...
 
 $ whois 60.50.xxx.yyy
 [Querying whois.apnic.net]
 [whois.apnic.net]
 % [whois.apnic.net node-2]
 % Whois data copyright termshttp://www.apnic.net/db/dbcopyright.html
 
 inetnum:  60.48.0.0 -  60.54.255.255
 netname:  XDSLSTREAMYX
 descr:Telekom Malaysia Berhad
 descr:Network Strategy
 descr:Wisma Telekom
 descr:Jalan Pantai Baru
 descr:50672 Kuala Lumpur
 country:  MY
 

For the record on this one, it seems that our version of the geoip
database does not do a proper lookup for IP addresses in the 60.50.50.50
(as an example IP of that range).

What I get is unknown (with our current version).  When unknown, it
passes a list of high bandwidth machines.

I will get and build a newer version of the GeoIP database and see if I
can get a better result.

Thanks,
Johnny Hughes



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Re: [CentOS] fasttest mirror -doesnt seem to pick sites near my region

2009-08-22 Thread tech
Johnny Hughes wrote:

 What I get is unknown (with our current version).  When unknown, it
 passes a list of high bandwidth machines.
 
 I will get and build a newer version of the GeoIP database and see if I
 can get a better result.

I reported a problem like this much earlier.

I am in Hong Kong. Mirror selects .TW sites for me. BUT, although .TW is 
close the actual data transfer between there and here is very slow.  I 
learned almost 20 years ago not to do transfers from there.

I excluded all .TW sites in the .CONF file. This wasn't working so good. 
I noticed that almost all of the sites listed were .EDU.TW so I changed 
my exclusion to just the .EDU.TW sites. I now live with this exclusion.

Mel

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Re: [CentOS] fasttest mirror -doesnt seem to pick sites near my region

2009-08-22 Thread Johnny Hughes
tech wrote:
 Johnny Hughes wrote:
 
 What I get is unknown (with our current version).  When unknown, it
 passes a list of high bandwidth machines.

 I will get and build a newer version of the GeoIP database and see if I
 can get a better result.
 
 I reported a problem like this much earlier.
 
 I am in Hong Kong. Mirror selects .TW sites for me. BUT, although .TW is 
 close the actual data transfer between there and here is very slow.  I 
 learned almost 20 years ago not to do transfers from there.
 
 I excluded all .TW sites in the .CONF file. This wasn't working so good. 
 I noticed that almost all of the sites listed were .EDU.TW so I changed 
 my exclusion to just the .EDU.TW sites. I now live with this exclusion.
 

OK, the original problem is fixed in that we now have a better database.

WRT what is considered fast for a given country, I will publish what we
currently use, and have the community tell us if it is working or not.
I will do this on another thread.

One thing to consider is countries where we actually have mirrors as
well.  It will all be in the new thread.

Thanks,
Johnny Hughes



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