Re: [CentOS] keyboard problem
On Tuesday, August 09, 2011 01:29:09 PM bcb wrote: OK, I know what I'm doing is officially unsupported, ... I have a CentOS 5.6 system running as a virtual machine using VMware player. I cloned the system, booted the clone to make sure everything worked after cloning, it did. I then booted off a CentOS 6 ISO and did an upgrade (I know, unsupported!). I've got the system to the point where everything works except the keyboard. Well, I ran into an ephemeral issue yesterday during a scratch install of C6 onto VMware ESX 3.5U5 (also not supported, but this time it's unsupported by VMware, not by CentOS). The install went well, and the initial update (200+ packages or so) went well, but the first reboot did not. I got a 'prefdm respawning too fast' issue and a text-mode console; I switched to a different VC, logged in as root, and issued a startx. Both the keyboard and mouse went away, and I could neither click on anything nor even switch to a different VC. I had to reset the VM hard, and was expecting a long day of troubleshooting, but when it rebooted that time it came up without issue, and everything works ok. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] keyboard problem
bcb wrote: snip I have a CentOS 5.6 system running as a virtual machine using VMware player. I cloned the system, booted the clone to make sure everything worked after cloning, it did. I then booted off a CentOS 6 ISO and did an upgrade (I know, unsupported!). I've got the system to the point where everything works except the keyboard. If I boot to a command line, it works, as soon as X gets involved, there is no response at all from the keyboard. The on-screen keyboard does work. The physical keyboard works in the host OS and all of the other guest OSes on the machine. It works in the original CentOS 5.6 VM. snip You might want to play with xorg.conf (AFTER MAKING A BACKUP!!!) (I just adore xorg's rewriting a working one into a non-working one mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] keyboard problem
On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 14:01:07 -0400, m.roth-x6lchVBUigD1P9xLtpHBDw wrote: bcb wrote: snip I have a CentOS 5.6 system running as a virtual machine using VMware player. I cloned the system, booted the clone to make sure everything worked after cloning, it did. I then booted off a CentOS 6 ISO and did an upgrade (I know, unsupported!). I've got the system to the point where everything works except the keyboard. If I boot to a command line, it works, as soon as X gets involved, there is no response at all from the keyboard. The on-screen keyboard does work. The physical keyboard works in the host OS and all of the other guest OSes on the machine. It works in the original CentOS 5.6 VM. snip You might want to play with xorg.conf (AFTER MAKING A BACKUP!!!) (I just adore xorg's rewriting a working one into a non-working one mark but there is no xorg.conf and there are indications on line that it's no longer used, preferring dynamic configuration and xrandr instead. Of course xrandr is only display, not kbd, configuration... Bruce ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] keyboard problem
bcb wrote: On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 14:01:07 -0400, m.roth-x6lchVBUigD1P9xLtpHBDw wrote: bcb wrote: snip I have a CentOS 5.6 system running as a virtual machine using VMware player. I cloned the system, booted the clone to make sure everything worked after cloning, it did. I then booted off a CentOS 6 ISO and did an upgrade (I know, unsupported!). I've got the system to the point where everything works except the keyboard. If I boot to a command line, it works, as soon as X gets involved, there is no response at all from the keyboard. The on-screen keyboard does work. The physical keyboard works in the host OS and all of the other guest OSes on the machine. It works in the original CentOS 5.6 VM. snip You might want to play with xorg.conf (AFTER MAKING A BACKUP!!!) (I just adore xorg's rewriting a working one into a non-working one but there is no xorg.conf and there are indications on line that it's no longer used, preferring dynamic configuration and xrandr instead. Of course xrandr is only display, not kbd, configuration... Dunno. I'm running 6 on my workstation, and I *do* have an xorg.conf, though I will admit that I'm also using kmod-nvidia, and twinview (two monitors, spanning). mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] keyboard problem
On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 02:55:17PM -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: bcb wrote: On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 14:01:07 -0400, m.roth-x6lchVBUigD1P9xLtpHBDw wrote: bcb wrote: snip I have a CentOS 5.6 system running as a virtual machine using VMware player. I cloned the system, booted the clone to make sure everything worked after cloning, it did. I then booted off a CentOS 6 ISO and did an upgrade (I know, unsupported!). I've got the system to the point where everything works except the keyboard. but there is no xorg.conf and there are indications on line that it's no longer used, preferring dynamic configuration and xrandr instead. Of course xrandr is only display, not kbd, configuration... Dunno. I'm running 6 on my workstation, and I *do* have an xorg.conf, though I will admit that I'm also using kmod-nvidia, and twinview (two monitors, spanning). If I rememeber correctly, nvidia modules usually create an xorg.conf. You might try reinstalling xorg-x11-drv-keyboard -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 Buffy: I'm a great cook... in theory. I've eaten a lot ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] keyboard problem
on 8/9/2011 10:29 AM bcb spake the following: OK, I know what I'm doing is officially unsupported, but perhaps someone has some suggestions... I have a CentOS 5.6 system running as a virtual machine using VMware player. I cloned the system, booted the clone to make sure everything worked after cloning, it did. I then booted off a CentOS 6 ISO and did an upgrade (I know, unsupported!). I've got the system to the point where everything works except the keyboard. If I boot to a command line, it works, as soon as X gets involved, there is no response at all from the keyboard. The on-screen keyboard does work. The physical keyboard works in the host OS and all of the other guest OSes on the machine. It works in the original CentOS 5.6 VM. I'm at a loss and would love some advice on where to look next. Thanks! Bruce Did you look for any leftover packages that didn't upgrade? Something like rpm -qa |grep el5 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] keyboard problem
on 8/9/2011 12:34 PM bcb spake the following: On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 12:09:25 -0700, Scott Silva wrote: on 8/9/2011 10:29 AM bcb spake the following: OK, I know what I'm doing is officially unsupported, but perhaps someone has some suggestions... I have a CentOS 5.6 system running as a virtual machine using VMware player. I cloned the system, booted the clone to make sure everything worked after cloning, it did. I then booted off a CentOS 6 ISO and did an upgrade (I know, unsupported!). I've got the system to the point where everything works except the keyboard. If I boot to a command line, it works, as soon as X gets involved, there is no response at all from the keyboard. The on-screen keyboard does work. The physical keyboard works in the host OS and all of the other guest OSes on the machine. It works in the original CentOS 5.6 VM. I'm at a loss and would love some advice on where to look next. Thanks! Bruce Did you look for any leftover packages that didn't upgrade? Something like rpm -qa |grep el5 bingo! xorg-x11-drv-evdev was still haning around from 5.6. Couldn't update it, so erased it, then installed it and all (so far) is right with the keyboard. There are a few others that are still old but that was the problem this time. Thanks! Bruce I would do my best to eliminate any el5 leftovers, and replace with el6 versions. It will only come back later and bite you... ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] keyboard problem
On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 12:43:24 -0700, Scott Silva wrote: I would do my best to eliminate any el5 leftovers, and replace with el6 versions. It will only come back later and bite you... Of course!. At the moment, I've eliminated/upgraded all of the el5 packages to el6 ones except for the various nss packages. The problem there (and maybe I'm just a bit ignorant about the right way around this) is nss-softokn-freebl which has a conflict with nss-3.12.8-4.el5_6. Normally I'd just rpm --erase --nodeps latter package, but when you do that, yum, rpm, etc no longer work to install the newer version, complaining vehemently about a missing nss package :-( I'd love to know how to resolve that issue. Thanks! Bruce ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] keyboard problem
on 8/9/2011 1:22 PM bcb spake the following: On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 12:43:24 -0700, Scott Silva wrote: I would do my best to eliminate any el5 leftovers, and replace with el6 versions. It will only come back later and bite you... Of course!. At the moment, I've eliminated/upgraded all of the el5 packages to el6 ones except for the various nss packages. The problem there (and maybe I'm just a bit ignorant about the right way around this) is nss-softokn-freebl which has a conflict with nss-3.12.8-4.el5_6. Normally I'd just rpm --erase --nodeps latter package, but when you do that, yum, rpm, etc no longer work to install the newer version, complaining vehemently about a missing nss package :-( I'd love to know how to resolve that issue. Thanks! Bruce download all the deps ahead of time, then install locally ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] keyboard problem
on 8/9/2011 1:22 PM bcb spake the following: On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 12:43:24 -0700, Scott Silva wrote: I would do my best to eliminate any el5 leftovers, and replace with el6 versions. It will only come back later and bite you... Of course!. At the moment, I've eliminated/upgraded all of the el5 packages to el6 ones except for the various nss packages. The problem there (and maybe I'm just a bit ignorant about the right way around this) is nss-softokn-freebl which has a conflict with nss-3.12.8-4.el5_6. Normally I'd just rpm --erase --nodeps latter package, but when you do that, yum, rpm, etc no longer work to install the newer version, complaining vehemently about a missing nss package :-( I'd love to know how to resolve that issue. Thanks! Bruce This is a shining example of why RedHat says NOT to upgrade between major versions. It takes as much (or more) work to fix it as it does to just start over... ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Keyboard problem
On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 22:53 -0700, MHR wrote: Perhaps, but wouldn't it get a bigger kick, if you will, by replacing the keyboard batteries? Replacing the batteries has no effect on the receiver that's plugged into your computer, and that's the part that's most likely getting the kick when you reboot. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Keyboard problem
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:27 PM, Frank Cox thea...@sasktel.net wrote: Replacing the batteries has no effect on the receiver that's plugged into your computer, and that's the part that's most likely getting the kick when you reboot. If it's a problem with either the keyboard or the receiver, when I plugged in the wired keyboard the problem should have disappeared. The problem stayed with the computer and its OS, irrespective of the hardware attached. The worst part is that this doesn't happen often enough to provide a good test environment - maybe once every six months or longer (I can't remember the last time, exactly, and that time it cleared up after about five days, all by itself, which also tells me this is a driver problem). This may also be the best part, except in terms of diagnosing and solving the problem. My bottom line question remains: anyone else have this problem with a Logitech EX110 wireless desktop on CentOS (or any other Linux system) - with details? mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Keyboard problem
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 6:02 PM, MHR mhullr...@gmail.com wrote: I've had a Logitech cordless desktop on my primary desktop for the last few years, and every once in a while the number pad would just go out - the enter key and num-lock would still work, but of all the others would do nothing except the 5, which would pop-up a subwindow in some app on the screen that didn't have the focus. Erk - the (wireless) keyboard behaves just fine after a reboot. This leads me to suspect a problem in either the kernel or the desktop, but I think I've tried restarting the gdm before for this with no luck (had to reboot), so I more strongly suspect the kernel (driver/s). The mouse works just fine in both cases. It's an EX110 wireless desktop, BTW. My son uses the exact same hardware on his Windows machine, and it never does this. In fact, the first time this happened, Logitech sent me a whole new wireless set, and that's the one I've been using ever since, and this has happened before a couple of times. Once it just went away by itself, the other time I deliberately rebooted to fix it. I should probably point out that I use the PS2 ports instead of the (optional) USB connection - does anyone know if that works better (I suspect it might, since the USB drivers seem to be more robust than most). Rebooting is not a good solution, even if it works as a fix. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Keyboard problem
On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 18:02 -0700, MHR wrote: I'm going to reboot to see what happens, but I'd be really, really disappointed if it all just comes back to life (meaning that it *is* a problem in the system and not the hardware) You can't guarantee that, either way. It could still be a problem with the hardware (firmware) in the keyboard and when you reboot it gets a kick and restarts. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Keyboard problem
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Frank Cox thea...@sasktel.net wrote: You can't guarantee that, either way. It could still be a problem with the hardware (firmware) in the keyboard and when you reboot it gets a kick and restarts. Perhaps, but wouldn't it get a bigger kick, if you will, by replacing the keyboard batteries? I've tried that and it doesn't make any difference. Even brushing the keys (to remove any internal static, per Logitech's suggestion many moons ago) makes no difference, nor does resynching the recever. Still wondering if anyone else uses the EX110 and either has the same problem or has never seen it Thanks, though. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
