Re: [CentOS] nfs (v3?) fails to allow writes and permission changes
On 2009-07-15 21:16, Craig White wrote: there is little reason to be running OOo 2.x any longer Except that OOo 3.x is not packaged by RHEL/CentOS/rpmforge/... and that downloading and installing from openoffice.org installs version 3.1.0 which positions all your tables from a MS Word documents 16cm out of the visable page. http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=101451 Which is a showstopper in real life, where doc and docx files are still normal for most of the people. Unless you install the mongolian version, which is still at 3.0 and which does not have the bug. Or wait for 3.1.1 which would solve this, but then having a packaged version which can easily be upgraded using yum would still be handy. -- Paul Bijnens, Xplanation Technology ServicesTel +32 16 397.525 Interleuvenlaan 86, B-3001 Leuven, BELGIUM Fax +32 16 397.552 *** * I think I've got the hang of it now: exit, ^D, ^C, ^\, ^Z, ^Q, ^^, * * quit, ZZ, :q, :q!, M-Z, ^X^C, logoff, logout, close, bye, /bye, ~., * * stop, end, ^]c, +++ ATH, disconnect, halt, abort, hangup, KJOB, * * ^X^X, :D::D, kill -9 1, kill -1 $$, shutdown, init 0, Alt-F4, * * Alt-f-e, Ctrl-Alt-Del, Alt-SysRq-reisub, Stop-A, AltGr-NumLock, ... * * ... Are you sure? ... YES ... Phew ... I'm out * *** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] nfs (v3?) fails to allow writes and permission changes
Paul Bijnens wrote: On 2009-07-15 21:16, Craig White wrote: there is little reason to be running OOo 2.x any longer Except that OOo 3.x is not packaged by RHEL/CentOS/rpmforge/... and that downloading and installing from openoffice.org installs version 3.1.0 which positions all your tables from a MS Word documents 16cm out of the visable page. http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=101451 Which is a showstopper in real life, where doc and docx files are still normal for most of the people. Unless you install the mongolian version, which is still at 3.0 and which does not have the bug. Or wait for 3.1.1 which would solve this, but then having a packaged version which can easily be upgraded using yum would still be handy. I use OOo 3.1 x86_64 and at the office use M$ word doc files - we use tables and I have no issues with opening these in OO0 3.1. YMMV begin:vcard fn:Rob Kampen n:Kampen;Rob email;internet:rkam...@kampensonline.com tel;work:407-896-9556 x6344 tel;fax:407-896-7607 tel;home:407-876-4854 tel;cell:407-341-3815 version:2.1 end:vcard ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] nfs (v3?) fails to allow writes and permission changes
On Tue, 2009-07-14 at 06:39 -0700, Craig White wrote: On Tue, 2009-07-14 at 00:42 -0400, JohnS wrote: On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 16:32 -0400, Rob Kampen wrote: snip So now it seems what I have is an Openoffice problem. It writes odt files just fine via nfs but not doc files. Must be a micro$oft conspiracy. I'll take this off list as it does not appear to be a CentOS issue. --- /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice # file locking now enabled by default SAL_ENABLE_FILE_LOCKING=1 export SAL_ENABLE_FILE_LOCKING Comment those two lines out and try that. An alternative is to use Samba instead of NFS. I had that problem on NFS also a while ago. perhaps as a test but that is a bad idea for every day usage. Craig --- Correct, but I only use that on a NFS server at home and not on production client machines. Production client I have using samba. John ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] nfs (v3?) fails to allow writes and permission changes
On Wed, 2009-07-15 at 11:02 -0400, JohnS wrote: On Tue, 2009-07-14 at 06:39 -0700, Craig White wrote: On Tue, 2009-07-14 at 00:42 -0400, JohnS wrote: On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 16:32 -0400, Rob Kampen wrote: snip So now it seems what I have is an Openoffice problem. It writes odt files just fine via nfs but not doc files. Must be a micro$oft conspiracy. I'll take this off list as it does not appear to be a CentOS issue. --- /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice # file locking now enabled by default SAL_ENABLE_FILE_LOCKING=1 export SAL_ENABLE_FILE_LOCKING Comment those two lines out and try that. An alternative is to use Samba instead of NFS. I had that problem on NFS also a while ago. perhaps as a test but that is a bad idea for every day usage. Craig --- Correct, but I only use that on a NFS server at home and not on production client machines. Production client I have using samba. I can assure you from my own home usage that if I have file open on Linux (Fedora) desktop system, files are mounted from CentOS server via NFS mount and Windows uses samba from same CentOS server and if either is using an ODF or XLS or DOC file, the other will be notified that the file is locked and offered to open a copy or read-only. Locking semantics seems to work perfectly among systems. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] nfs (v3?) fails to allow writes and permission changes
On Wed, 2009-07-15 at 10:43 -0700, Craig White wrote: On Wed, 2009-07-15 at 11:02 -0400, JohnS wrote: On Tue, 2009-07-14 at 06:39 -0700, Craig White wrote: On Tue, 2009-07-14 at 00:42 -0400, JohnS wrote: On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 16:32 -0400, Rob Kampen wrote: snip So now it seems what I have is an Openoffice problem. It writes odt files just fine via nfs but not doc files. Must be a micro$oft conspiracy. I'll take this off list as it does not appear to be a CentOS issue. --- /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice # file locking now enabled by default SAL_ENABLE_FILE_LOCKING=1 export SAL_ENABLE_FILE_LOCKING Comment those two lines out and try that. An alternative is to use Samba instead of NFS. I had that problem on NFS also a while ago. perhaps as a test but that is a bad idea for every day usage. Craig --- Correct, but I only use that on a NFS server at home and not on production client machines. Production client I have using samba. I can assure you from my own home usage that if I have file open on Linux (Fedora) desktop system, files are mounted from CentOS server via NFS mount and Windows uses samba from same CentOS server and if either is using an ODF or XLS or DOC file, the other will be notified that the file is locked and offered to open a copy or read-only. Locking semantics seems to work perfectly among systems. Craig --- This is the older Open Office Version 2. This was not a samba or nfs problem. Since it has been fixed in Open Office but not my end. Does that explain my usage? I don't have the time to get to many of my own things. :-) John ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] nfs (v3?) fails to allow writes and permission changes
On Wed, 2009-07-15 at 14:51 -0400, JohnS wrote: On Wed, 2009-07-15 at 10:43 -0700, Craig White wrote: On Wed, 2009-07-15 at 11:02 -0400, JohnS wrote: On Tue, 2009-07-14 at 06:39 -0700, Craig White wrote: On Tue, 2009-07-14 at 00:42 -0400, JohnS wrote: On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 16:32 -0400, Rob Kampen wrote: snip So now it seems what I have is an Openoffice problem. It writes odt files just fine via nfs but not doc files. Must be a micro$oft conspiracy. I'll take this off list as it does not appear to be a CentOS issue. --- /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice # file locking now enabled by default SAL_ENABLE_FILE_LOCKING=1 export SAL_ENABLE_FILE_LOCKING Comment those two lines out and try that. An alternative is to use Samba instead of NFS. I had that problem on NFS also a while ago. perhaps as a test but that is a bad idea for every day usage. Craig --- Correct, but I only use that on a NFS server at home and not on production client machines. Production client I have using samba. I can assure you from my own home usage that if I have file open on Linux (Fedora) desktop system, files are mounted from CentOS server via NFS mount and Windows uses samba from same CentOS server and if either is using an ODF or XLS or DOC file, the other will be notified that the file is locked and offered to open a copy or read-only. Locking semantics seems to work perfectly among systems. Craig --- This is the older Open Office Version 2. This was not a samba or nfs problem. Since it has been fixed in Open Office but not my end. Does that explain my usage? I don't have the time to get to many of my own things. :-) there is little reason to be running OOo 2.x any longer Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] nfs (v3?) fails to allow writes and permission changes
On Wed, 2009-07-15 at 12:16 -0700, Craig White wrote: On Wed, 2009-07-15 at 14:51 -0400, JohnS wrote: On Wed, 2009-07-15 at 10:43 -0700, Craig White wrote: On Wed, 2009-07-15 at 11:02 -0400, JohnS wrote: On Tue, 2009-07-14 at 06:39 -0700, Craig White wrote: On Tue, 2009-07-14 at 00:42 -0400, JohnS wrote: On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 16:32 -0400, Rob Kampen wrote: snip So now it seems what I have is an Openoffice problem. It writes odt files just fine via nfs but not doc files. Must be a micro$oft conspiracy. I'll take this off list as it does not appear to be a CentOS issue. --- /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice # file locking now enabled by default SAL_ENABLE_FILE_LOCKING=1 export SAL_ENABLE_FILE_LOCKING Comment those two lines out and try that. An alternative is to use Samba instead of NFS. I had that problem on NFS also a while ago. perhaps as a test but that is a bad idea for every day usage. Craig --- Correct, but I only use that on a NFS server at home and not on production client machines. Production client I have using samba. I can assure you from my own home usage that if I have file open on Linux (Fedora) desktop system, files are mounted from CentOS server via NFS mount and Windows uses samba from same CentOS server and if either is using an ODF or XLS or DOC file, the other will be notified that the file is locked and offered to open a copy or read-only. Locking semantics seems to work perfectly among systems. Craig --- This is the older Open Office Version 2. This was not a samba or nfs problem. Since it has been fixed in Open Office but not my end. Does that explain my usage? I don't have the time to get to many of my own things. :-) there is little reason to be running OOo 2.x any longer Craig --- Ha Ha come on over and Update for me :-) John ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] nfs (v3?) fails to allow writes and permission changes
On Tue, 2009-07-14 at 00:42 -0400, JohnS wrote: On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 16:32 -0400, Rob Kampen wrote: snip So now it seems what I have is an Openoffice problem. It writes odt files just fine via nfs but not doc files. Must be a micro$oft conspiracy. I'll take this off list as it does not appear to be a CentOS issue. --- /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice # file locking now enabled by default SAL_ENABLE_FILE_LOCKING=1 export SAL_ENABLE_FILE_LOCKING Comment those two lines out and try that. An alternative is to use Samba instead of NFS. I had that problem on NFS also a while ago. perhaps as a test but that is a bad idea for every day usage. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] nfs (v3?) fails to allow writes and permission changes
Craig White wrote: On Tue, 2009-07-14 at 00:42 -0400, JohnS wrote: On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 16:32 -0400, Rob Kampen wrote: snip So now it seems what I have is an Openoffice problem. It writes odt files just fine via nfs but not doc files. Must be a micro$oft conspiracy. I'll take this off list as it does not appear to be a CentOS issue. --- /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice # file locking now enabled by default SAL_ENABLE_FILE_LOCKING=1 export SAL_ENABLE_FILE_LOCKING Comment those two lines out and try that. An alternative is to use Samba instead of NFS. I had that problem on NFS also a while ago. perhaps as a test but that is a bad idea for every day usage. Craig Yeah, do not like the idea of no file locking. As it turns out, I found the problem - the server was rebooted last week to get the latest kernel functioning and for some reason nlockmgr came up on the wrong port, thus the firewall did not allow the client to lock the file.. etc. Checked /etc/sysconfig/nfs and found the issue. Thanks to those that helped and made suggestions. Kind regards Rob begin:vcard fn:Rob Kampen n:Kampen;Rob email;internet:r...@kampensonline.net tel;cell:407-341-3815 version:2.1 end:vcard ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] nfs (v3?) fails to allow writes and permission changes
Rob Kampen wrote: [rkam...@robsws p_494]$ sudo chmod +w 5887_cover.pdf Password: chmod: changing permissions of `5887_cover.pdf': Operation not permitted yet using gnome file browser I can change permissions on these nfs mounted files just fine - go figure. This did work in the past - so what has changed? how do I check what version of nfs is actually working? Root squash may be enabled by default, try adding the no_root_squash option to your exports file on the server side, you may need to remount the volume on the client side after restarting/reloading nfs on the server. nate ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] nfs (v3?) fails to allow writes and permission changes
On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 15:47 -0400, Rob Kampen wrote: Hi All, I have an nfs mount from my CentOS 5.3 client to a CentOS5.3 server. This has been functioning correctly for some years. Beginning last week I had problems saving OpenOffice documents onto the nfs mounted volume. OpenOffice just times out with a file io error. So I tried just a simple shell - cd to the mounted volume did a vi create of text file - no problems. tried a chmod +w on an owned file - returned okay but no change to the permissions when checked with ls -l tried sudo chmod +w on the same file and get [rkam...@robsws p_494]$ sudo chmod +w 5887_cover.pdf Password: chmod: changing permissions of `5887_cover.pdf': Operation not permitted yet using gnome file browser I can change permissions on these nfs mounted files just fine - go figure. This did work in the past - so what has changed? how do I check what version of nfs is actually working? [rkam...@robsws p_494]$ mount 192.168.230.230:/NDG on /NDG type nfs (rw,noatime,intr,addr=192.168.230.230) Any thoughts? man pages are your friends man exports Very often, it is not desirable that the root user on a client machine is also treated as root when accessing files on the NFS server. To this end, uid 0 is normally mapped to a different id: the so-called anonymous or nobody uid. This mode of operation (called ‘root squash- ing’) is the default, and can be turned off with no_root_squash. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] nfs (v3?) fails to allow writes and permission changes
nate wrote: Rob Kampen wrote: [rkam...@robsws p_494]$ sudo chmod +w 5887_cover.pdf Password: chmod: changing permissions of `5887_cover.pdf': Operation not permitted yet using gnome file browser I can change permissions on these nfs mounted files just fine - go figure. This did work in the past - so what has changed? how do I check what version of nfs is actually working? Root squash may be enabled by default, try adding the no_root_squash option to your exports file on the server side, you may need to remount the volume on the client side after restarting/reloading nfs on the server. nate ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos tried that and that now normal chmod as me works okay but sudo chmod still not permitted. I tried dragging a file to my desktop, opening and saving back to desktop works fine. Drag from desktop back onto folder via the file browser also works fine! So I guess nfs is okay? BTW chmod +w file.doc only changes permissions for owner and group - world is left untouched, not what I remembered, I guess some man reading coming my way. So now it seems what I have is an Openoffice problem. It writes odt files just fine via nfs but not doc files. Must be a micro$oft conspiracy. I'll take this off list as it does not appear to be a CentOS issue. Thanks for the help. Rob begin:vcard fn:Rob Kampen n:Kampen;Rob email;internet:r...@kampensonline.net tel;cell:407-341-3815 version:2.1 end:vcard ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] nfs (v3?) fails to allow writes and permission changes
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 16:32, Rob Kampenrkam...@kampensonline.com wrote: BTW chmod +w file.doc only changes permissions for owner and group - world is left untouched, not what I remembered, I guess some man reading coming my way. From man chmod: If none of these are given, the effect is as if ‘a’ were given, but bits that are set in the umask are not affected. That means it will set all if your umask is 0. As your umask will probably be either 022 or 002, it will set write permissions to only user or only user+group respectively. HTH, Filipe ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] nfs (v3?) fails to allow writes and permission changes
Filipe Brandenburger wrote: On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 16:32, Rob Kampenrkam...@kampensonline.com wrote: BTW chmod +w file.doc only changes permissions for owner and group - world is left untouched, not what I remembered, I guess some man reading coming my way. From man chmod: If none of these are given, the effect is as if ‘a’ were given, but bits that are set in the umask are not affected. That means it will set all if your umask is 0. As your umask will probably be either 022 or 002, it will set write permissions to only user or only user+group respectively. HTH, Filipe ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Got it - that makes sense - Thanks! begin:vcard fn:Rob Kampen n:Kampen;Rob email;internet:r...@kampensonline.net tel;cell:407-341-3815 version:2.1 end:vcard ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] nfs (v3?) fails to allow writes and permission changes
On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 16:32 -0400, Rob Kampen wrote: nate wrote: Rob Kampen wrote: [rkam...@robsws p_494]$ sudo chmod +w 5887_cover.pdf Password: chmod: changing permissions of `5887_cover.pdf': Operation not permitted yet using gnome file browser I can change permissions on these nfs mounted files just fine - go figure. This did work in the past - so what has changed? how do I check what version of nfs is actually working? Root squash may be enabled by default, try adding the no_root_squash option to your exports file on the server side, you may need to remount the volume on the client side after restarting/reloading nfs on the server. nate ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos tried that and that now normal chmod as me works okay but sudo chmod still not permitted. I tried dragging a file to my desktop, opening and saving back to desktop works fine. Drag from desktop back onto folder via the file browser also works fine! So I guess nfs is okay? BTW chmod +w file.doc only changes permissions for owner and group - world is left untouched, not what I remembered, I guess some man reading coming my way. So now it seems what I have is an Openoffice problem. It writes odt files just fine via nfs but not doc files. Must be a micro$oft conspiracy. I'll take this off list as it does not appear to be a CentOS issue. Thanks for the help. Rob if the 'mount' is done as a 'user' mount but then you switch to su with sudo command, this would be a likely result. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] nfs (v3?) fails to allow writes and permission changes
Rob Kampen wrote: Is there any way to know what level (version) of nfs is in use? I know how to distinguish between v4 and the rest (the mount uses nfs4 rather than just nfs) but how about the lower levels? nfsstat should tell you nate ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] nfs (v3?) fails to allow writes and permission changes
On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 16:32 -0400, Rob Kampen wrote: snip So now it seems what I have is an Openoffice problem. It writes odt files just fine via nfs but not doc files. Must be a micro$oft conspiracy. I'll take this off list as it does not appear to be a CentOS issue. --- /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice # file locking now enabled by default SAL_ENABLE_FILE_LOCKING=1 export SAL_ENABLE_FILE_LOCKING Comment those two lines out and try that. An alternative is to use Samba instead of NFS. I had that problem on NFS also a while ago. John ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
