Re: [CentOS] printing on C8S

2022-01-07 Thread Fred
OK, I've done those commands, and the system thinks it has a printer
configured. I had assumed that the everywhere driver meant we'd be using
"ipp everywhere", which I had assumed meant I would NOT need to install
Brother drivers. but send a print job causes no paper to come out of the
printer, and I see this in lpstat -t output:

$ lpstat -t
scheduler is running
no system default destination
device for DCP7065DN: ///dev/null
DCP7065DN accepting requests since Fri 07 Jan 2022 10:46:21 AM EST
printer DCP7065DN is idle.  enabled since Fri 07 Jan 2022 10:46:21 AM EST
File "/usr/lib/cups/filter/brlpdwrapperDCP7065DN" not available: No such
file or directory
DCP7065DN-6 fredex  867328   Fri 07 Jan 2022 10:46:21
AM EST

which makes me guess I still need the Brother drivers. I can certainly go
get them and install them (not as if I hadn't done it before on multiple
systems), but I was hoping that "ipp everywhere" would work.

[later] I managed to get a working printer by using the Gnome printer
configuration tool. but it wasn't fun. I had to install the Brother drivers
because 'everywhere' doesn't seem to work with my Brother printer (possibly
Brother's fault, I dunno). the gnome printer setup tool is anything but
intuitive--despite what the help system says I can't find any way to define
the default printer, there's just no option there where help says it should
be. when I enter the URI of the printer (ipp://192.168.2.97/ipp) it lists
three choices of printers, as far as I can tell, only one of them actually
prints anything. but then I shouldn't be surprised at the ugly tool, it
fits right in with the rest of the Gnome desktop.

Unfortunately, the MATE for Centos-8 seems to be a one-off by a 3rd party,
so I can't complain to the Mate community about its lack of a printer
config tool (or other tools that don't work).

In fact, system-config-printer does seem to exist, but (1) it isn't found
in any menu I can find, anywhere, but on disk, if one searches with some
diligence, and (2) when I attempt to invoke it "python36 gui.py" it just
errors out on me. since I don't know any more about python than it takes to
type that command, I don't know how to fix it. I'm guessing it has never
been ported to Python 3.x.

I'd like to stay with CentOS or other RH-derived distro, but not if I'm
forced to use Gnome desktop.

Thanks for all the various replies you all sent me!

Fred

On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 10:21 AM Fred  wrote:

> John, it is a Brother DCP7065DN, on the hardwired network and visible to
> all the computers here.
>
> Actually, I just installed Mate (can't stand that Gnome-thing) but neither
> it nor Gnome shows any printer config utilities.
>
> Barry, I'll check into lpadmin. Still, I'd think there would be something
> actually visible in one of the menus, and as far as I can see there isn't.
>
> Fred
>
> On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 2:34 AM John Call  wrote:
>
>> Hi Fred, can you share a little bit more information? For example, are you
>> using the default Gnome desktop environment? What kind of printer do you
>> have? How is it connected to C8S (USB, Wi-Fi, Ethernet...?)
>>
>> I use Gnome, and it's been a long time since I had to poke around with
>> CUPS. My Brother printer (MFC-9340CDW) is pretty old these days, but still
>> works after I download and install the "Driver Install Tool" RPM from the
>> brother.com website...
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 9:16 PM Fred  wrote:
>>
>> > OK, I give up. How do I configure a printer on Centos 8 Stream? I can't
>> > find any tools for doing that.
>> >
>> > further, there doesn't seem to be a cups executable (which should allow
>> > setting up a printer) though there ARE a bunch of cups packages
>> installed.
>> >
>> > Anyone got any clues for me?
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance!
>> >
>> > Fred
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Re: [CentOS] printing on C8S

2022-01-07 Thread Fred Erickson
On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 10:21:01 -0500
Fred  wrote:

> John, it is a Brother DCP7065DN, on the hardwired network and visible
> to all the computers here.
> 
> Actually, I just installed Mate (can't stand that Gnome-thing) but
> neither it nor Gnome shows any printer config utilities.
> 
> Barry, I'll check into lpadmin. Still, I'd think there would be
> something actually visible in one of the menus, and as far as I can
> see there isn't.
> 
> Fred

On Fedora Mate, printer settings are in: System > Control Center >
Administration, Print Settings.

Fred, too.
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Re: [CentOS] printing on C8S

2022-01-07 Thread mario juliano grande-balletta
You can download the linux drivers from the Brother web site, I had to do the 
same for my printer.

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John, it is a Brother DCP7065DN, on the hardwired network and visible toall the 
computers here.
Actually, I just installed Mate (can't stand that Gnome-thing) but neitherit 
nor Gnome shows any printer config utilities.
Barry, I'll check into lpadmin. Still, I'd think there would be 
somethingactually visible in one of the menus, and as far as I can see there 
isn't.
Fred
On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 2:34 AM John Call  wrote:
Hi Fred, can you share a little bit more information? For example, are youusing 
the default Gnome desktop environment? What kind of printer do youhave? How is 
it connected to C8S (USB, Wi-Fi, Ethernet...?)
I use Gnome, and it's been a long time since I had to poke around withCUPS. My 
Brother printer (MFC-9340CDW) is pretty old these days, but stillworks after I 
download and install the "Driver Install Tool" RPM from thebrother.com 
website...
On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 9:16 PM Fred  wrote:
OK, I give up. How do I configure a printer on Centos 8 Stream? I can'tfind any 
tools for doing that.
further, there doesn't seem to be a cups executable (which should allowsetting 
up a printer) though there ARE a bunch of cups packagesinstalled.

Anyone got any clues for me?
Thanks in advance!
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Re: [CentOS] printing on C8S

2022-01-07 Thread Pete Biggs
On Fri, 2022-01-07 at 10:21 -0500, Fred wrote:
> John, it is a Brother DCP7065DN, on the hardwired network and visible to
> all the computers here.
> 
> Actually, I just installed Mate (can't stand that Gnome-thing) but neither
> it nor Gnome shows any printer config utilities.
> 
> Barry, I'll check into lpadmin. Still, I'd think there would be something
> actually visible in one of the menus, and as far as I can see there isn't.

In Gnome it's in Settings - i.e. top bar, right menu -> settings.  It
changes position sometimes it might be at the top level of settings or
under devices.

The "official" way of dealing with CUPS printers is to use the web
interface - i.e. http://localhost:631 - that should work on all systems
and all environments so long as you have cuspd running.

P.

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Re: [CentOS] printing on C8S

2022-01-07 Thread Fred
John, it is a Brother DCP7065DN, on the hardwired network and visible to
all the computers here.

Actually, I just installed Mate (can't stand that Gnome-thing) but neither
it nor Gnome shows any printer config utilities.

Barry, I'll check into lpadmin. Still, I'd think there would be something
actually visible in one of the menus, and as far as I can see there isn't.

Fred

On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 2:34 AM John Call  wrote:

> Hi Fred, can you share a little bit more information? For example, are you
> using the default Gnome desktop environment? What kind of printer do you
> have? How is it connected to C8S (USB, Wi-Fi, Ethernet...?)
>
> I use Gnome, and it's been a long time since I had to poke around with
> CUPS. My Brother printer (MFC-9340CDW) is pretty old these days, but still
> works after I download and install the "Driver Install Tool" RPM from the
> brother.com website...
>
> On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 9:16 PM Fred  wrote:
>
> > OK, I give up. How do I configure a printer on Centos 8 Stream? I can't
> > find any tools for doing that.
> >
> > further, there doesn't seem to be a cups executable (which should allow
> > setting up a printer) though there ARE a bunch of cups packages
> installed.
> >
> > Anyone got any clues for me?
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> > Fred
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Re: [CentOS] printing on C8S

2022-01-07 Thread Barry Brimer

On Thu, 6 Jan 2022, Fred wrote:


OK, I give up. How do I configure a printer on Centos 8 Stream? I can't
find any tools for doing that.

further, there doesn't seem to be a cups executable (which should allow
setting up a printer) though there ARE a bunch of cups packages installed.


According to 

The everywhere driver is used for nearly all modern networks printers sold 
since about 2009. For example, the following command creates a destination 
for a printer at IP address 11.22.33.44:


lpadmin -p printername -E -v ipp://11.22.33.44/ipp/print -m everywhere

On a Fedora 35 machine, which should probably be pretty close to C8S, the 
lpadmin executable is provided by the standard cups rpm


$ rpm -qf $(which lpadmin)
cups-2.3.3op2-11.fc35.x86_64

Hope this helps,
Barry
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Re: [CentOS] printing on C8S

2022-01-06 Thread John Call
Hi Fred, can you share a little bit more information? For example, are you
using the default Gnome desktop environment? What kind of printer do you
have? How is it connected to C8S (USB, Wi-Fi, Ethernet...?)

I use Gnome, and it's been a long time since I had to poke around with
CUPS. My Brother printer (MFC-9340CDW) is pretty old these days, but still
works after I download and install the "Driver Install Tool" RPM from the
brother.com website...

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 9:16 PM Fred  wrote:

> OK, I give up. How do I configure a printer on Centos 8 Stream? I can't
> find any tools for doing that.
>
> further, there doesn't seem to be a cups executable (which should allow
> setting up a printer) though there ARE a bunch of cups packages installed.
>
> Anyone got any clues for me?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Fred
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