[CentOS] BackupPC is not easy to setup

[Timothy Murphy]

I finally got BackupPC working under Centos-7.1
after several hours of pain.
I had been running it for several years under CentOS-6,
and probably CentOS-5, but there seem to me
to have been several new issues that arise with CentOS-7.

In my experience, the official documentation on this,
,
is more or less useless unless you have a very long time to spend.
It suffers from the usual Linux disease of having
inordinately long explanations of everything
with no examples of the actual commands a real person has to give.

The explanation in 
(which I only found later) is much better, 
though it starts with the warning
"This page is no longer maintained, having been abandoned on 2009-09-17".

I thought I'd write a 1-page note to myself of the steps I took,
in preparation for CentOS-8...
I have a couple of questions that this raises.

1. Why exactly does backuppc want to ssh to root?
Is this just a way of running BackupPC as root?

2. The graphical interface seems to be treated as an extra,
but what other way is there of accessing BackupPC?
Is there a CLI approach?
If so, where is the list of transfer requests kept?


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Re: [CentOS] Error installing Kmymoney

[Rex Dieter]

Rex Dieter wrote:

> CS DBA wrote:
> 
>> Hi All;
>> 
>> I'm runing a new install of CentOS 7, enabled the epel repo and ran:
>> 
>> # yum install kmymoney
>> 
>> I get this:
>> 
>> Resolving Dependencies
>> --> Running transaction check
>> ---> Package kmymoney.x86_64 0:4.6.6-1.el7 will be installed
>> --> Processing Dependency: kmymoney-libs(x86-64) = 4.6.6-1.el7 for
>> package: kmymoney-4.6.6-1.el7.x86_64
>> --> Processing Dependency: libkmm_widgets.so.4()(64bit) for package:
>> kmymoney-4.6.6-1.el7.x86_64
>> --> Processing Dependency: libkmm_plugin.so.4()(64bit) for package:
>> kmymoney-4.6.6-1.el7.x86_64
>> --> Processing Dependency: libkmm_mymoney.so.4()(64bit) for package:
>> kmymoney-4.6.6-1.el7.x86_64
>> --> Processing Dependency: libcalligrakdchart.so.13()(64bit) for
> package:
>> kmymoney-4.6.6-1.el7.x86_64
>> --> Running transaction check
>> ---> Package kmymoney.x86_64 0:4.6.6-1.el7 will be installed
>> --> Processing Dependency: libcalligrakdchart.so.13()(64bit) for
> package:
>> kmymoney-4.6.6-1.el7.x86_64
>> ---> Package kmymoney-libs.x86_64 0:4.6.6-1.el7 will be installed
>> --> Finished Dependency Resolution
>> Error: Package: kmymoney-4.6.6-1.el7.x86_64 (epel)
>>Requires: libcalligrakdchart.so.13()(64bit)
>>  You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
>>  You could try running: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest
>> 
>> 
>> I cant seem to get past this, using --skip-broken does not work.
>> 
>> Anyone have any suggestions?
> 
> I'm fixing it now.

Update submitted,
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2015-8062

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Re: [CentOS] new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

[Scott Robbins]

On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 04:12:44PM +0100, Always Learning wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 2015-08-21 at 06:23 +, Sorin Srbu wrote:
> 
> > I use Openshot Video Editor on a weekly basis to cut and edit my 
> > m/c-instructoring clips and then post to Youtube. ;-)
> > I've more or less abandoned Pinnacle since I discovered Openshot. The
> > encoding stuff is so much faster on CentOS than Windows...
> 
> Where does one obtain the RPM for Centos 5 and 6, please ?

For 6, at least, it's in the nux-desktop repo, I don't know about the
others.

BTW, are you familiar with pkgs.org?  (That's what I used to get the
information, just go to pkgs.org, type openshot in the search box and it
gives distributions with a package for it.

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Re: [CentOS] BackupPC is not easy to setup

[Timothy Murphy]

Timothy Murphy wrote:

> I thought I'd write a 1-page note to myself of the steps I took,
> in preparation for CentOS-8...
> I have a couple of questions that this raises.
> 
> 1. Why exactly does backuppc want to ssh to root?
> Is this just a way of running BackupPC as root?
> 
> 2. The graphical interface seems to be treated as an extra,
> but what other way is there of accessing BackupPC?
> Is there a CLI approach?
> If so, where is the list of transfer requests kept?

Another small query.
I see that BackupPC starts 6 copies of httpd running,
but so far only 2 have ever been used.
Can this number (6) be changed?

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Re: [CentOS] BackupPC is not easy to setup

[Ulf Volmer]

On 09/13/2015 03:48 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote:

> I see that BackupPC starts 6 copies of httpd running,
> but so far only 2 have ever been used.
> Can this number (6) be changed?

Yes, in the configuration of you httpd.

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Re: [CentOS] Error installing Kmymoney

[Rex Dieter]

CS DBA wrote:

> Hi All;
> 
> I'm runing a new install of CentOS 7, enabled the epel repo and ran:
> 
> # yum install kmymoney
> 
> I get this:
> 
> Resolving Dependencies
> --> Running transaction check
> ---> Package kmymoney.x86_64 0:4.6.6-1.el7 will be installed
> --> Processing Dependency: kmymoney-libs(x86-64) = 4.6.6-1.el7 for
> package: kmymoney-4.6.6-1.el7.x86_64
> --> Processing Dependency: libkmm_widgets.so.4()(64bit) for package:
> kmymoney-4.6.6-1.el7.x86_64
> --> Processing Dependency: libkmm_plugin.so.4()(64bit) for package:
> kmymoney-4.6.6-1.el7.x86_64
> --> Processing Dependency: libkmm_mymoney.so.4()(64bit) for package:
> kmymoney-4.6.6-1.el7.x86_64
> --> Processing Dependency: libcalligrakdchart.so.13()(64bit) for 
package:
> kmymoney-4.6.6-1.el7.x86_64
> --> Running transaction check
> ---> Package kmymoney.x86_64 0:4.6.6-1.el7 will be installed
> --> Processing Dependency: libcalligrakdchart.so.13()(64bit) for 
package:
> kmymoney-4.6.6-1.el7.x86_64
> ---> Package kmymoney-libs.x86_64 0:4.6.6-1.el7 will be installed
> --> Finished Dependency Resolution
> Error: Package: kmymoney-4.6.6-1.el7.x86_64 (epel)
>Requires: libcalligrakdchart.so.13()(64bit)
>  You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
>  You could try running: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest
> 
> 
> I cant seem to get past this, using --skip-broken does not work.
> 
> Anyone have any suggestions?

I'm fixing it now.

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Re: [CentOS] new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

[Always Learning]

On Fri, 2015-08-21 at 06:23 +, Sorin Srbu wrote:

> I use Openshot Video Editor on a weekly basis to cut and edit my 
> m/c-instructoring clips and then post to Youtube. ;-)
> I've more or less abandoned Pinnacle since I discovered Openshot. The
> encoding stuff is so much faster on CentOS than Windows...

Where does one obtain the RPM for Centos 5 and 6, please ?


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Re: [CentOS] BackupPC is not easy to setup

[Ulf Volmer]

On 09/13/2015 01:35 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote:

> I have a couple of questions that this raises.
> 
> 1. Why exactly does backuppc want to ssh to root?

To enable access to all of the files on the client.

It is also possible to run the backup running the rsyncd- daemon on the
client.

> Is this just a way of running BackupPC as root?

Why do you want this? It's not required to run backuppc as user root.

> 2. The graphical interface seems to be treated as an extra,
> but what other way is there of accessing BackupPC?
> Is there a CLI approach?

There are some CLI applications available, BackupPC_tarCreate for
example to restore file from the command line.

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Re: [CentOS] BackupPC is not easy to setup

[Timothy Murphy]

Ulf Volmer wrote:

Thanks for your response, which clarifies matters for me.

>> I have a couple of questions that this raises.

>> 1. Why exactly does backuppc want to ssh to root?

> To enable access to all of the files on the client.

>> Is this just a way of running BackupPC as root?

> Why do you want this? It's not required to run backuppc as user root.

I don't want (or not want) to do this.
I was asking the reason for ssh-ing from backuppc to root.
I don't recall any other application taking this route ?

>> 2. The graphical interface seems to be treated as an extra,
>> but what other way is there of accessing BackupPC?
>> Is there a CLI approach?

> There are some CLI applications available, BackupPC_tarCreate for
> example to restore file from the command line.

I take it then that there is no CLI method 
of setting up and running BackupPC ?

Incidentally, I don't recall ever changing the user and group
under which BackupPC is to run when setting up BackupPC under CentOS-6.
Maybe this was done automatically during the CentOS installation
of this program?
(I certainly never used suexec explicitly.)


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Re: [CentOS] new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

[Always Learning]

On Sun, 2015-09-13 at 11:43 -0400, Scott Robbins wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 04:12:44PM +0100, Always Learning wrote:
> > 
> > Where does one obtain the RPM for Centos 5 and 6, please ?

> For 6, at least, it's in the nux-desktop repo, I don't know about the
> others.

Thanks.

> BTW, are you familiar with pkgs.org?  (That's what I used to get the
> information, just go to pkgs.org, type openshot in the search box and it
> gives distributions with a package for it.

No. Never used it before. Did look at another similar service but could
see only Fedora and Mandrake? versions.

Thanks again.


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Re: [CentOS] BackupPC is not easy to setup

[John R Pierce]

On 9/13/2015 7:58 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:

1. Why exactly does backuppc want to ssh to root?

>To enable access to all of the files on the client.

>>Is this just a way of running BackupPC as root?

>Why do you want this? It's not required to run backuppc as user root.

I don't want (or not want) to do this.
I was asking the reason for ssh-ing from backuppc to root.
I don't recall any other application taking this route ?



its using ssh to run rsync on the backup target...   it uses root so 
that rsync can access all files.


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Re: [CentOS] new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

[C Linus Hicks]

 On 09/13/15, Always Learning wrote:

- Quoted text ---
Where does one obtain the RPM for Centos 5 and 6, please ?
- End quote 

See: vault.centos.org


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Re: [CentOS] centos 7 on older macbook pro

[Hal Wigoda]

Use Oracles VM VirtualBox.

On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 9:33 PM, Keith Keller <
kkel...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I recently got a brand new MacBook Pro, replacing one that is over 5.5
> years old.  I'm trying to think of something to do with the old laptop,
> and one idea I had was to put CentOS on it.  After some initial
> struggles, I finally found this page, which tells how to tell the
> installer to find hfsplus-utils:
>
> https://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=7327
>
> Then I got to the point of configuring wifi, and of course being a MBP,
> it has a proprietary Broadcom interface.  I followed the instructions on
> the wiki (https://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Wireless/Broadcom), but
> had some trouble with it coming back up after a sleep.  That plus some
> other issues (it ran hot just running a browser, for example) are making
> me question whether this is a good idea.
>
> Does anyone else run a CentOS (not necessarily 7) on Apple hardware,
> particularly laptops (and not in a VM)?  If so, any pointers on making
> life easier?  TBH I don't really know exactly what I want to use it for
> yet, so suggestions there would be helpful too.
>
> --keith
>
>
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Re: [CentOS] new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

[Always Learning]

On Sun, 2015-09-13 at 13:14 -0500, C Linus Hicks wrote:

> On 09/13/15, Always Learning wrote:
> 
> - Quoted text ---
> Where does one obtain the RPM for Centos 5 and 6, please ?
> - End quote 

> See: vault.centos.org

Thank you. Vault seems to be source RPMs. I was seeking something easier
as binary RPMs.


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Re: [CentOS] new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

[Frank Cox]

On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 00:55:45 +0100
Always Learning wrote:


> > Where does one obtain the RPM for Centos 5 and 6, please ?

> > See: vault.centos.org
> 
> Thank you. Vault seems to be source RPMs. I was seeking something easier
> as binary RPMs.

Look in the os directory.

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Re: [CentOS] new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

[Always Learning]

On Sun, 2015-09-13 at 18:15 -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 00:55:45 +0100
> Always Learning wrote:
> 
> 
> > > Where does one obtain the RPM for Centos 5 and 6, please ?
> 
> > > See: vault.centos.org
> > 
> > Thank you. Vault seems to be source RPMs. I was seeking something easier
> > as binary RPMs.
> 
> Look in the os directory.


http://vault.centos.org/5.11/os/

http://vault.centos.org/centos/5.11/os/

have *.src.rpm

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[CentOS] centos 7 on older macbook pro

[Keith Keller]

Hi all,

I recently got a brand new MacBook Pro, replacing one that is over 5.5
years old.  I'm trying to think of something to do with the old laptop,
and one idea I had was to put CentOS on it.  After some initial
struggles, I finally found this page, which tells how to tell the
installer to find hfsplus-utils:

https://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=7327

Then I got to the point of configuring wifi, and of course being a MBP,
it has a proprietary Broadcom interface.  I followed the instructions on
the wiki (https://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Wireless/Broadcom), but
had some trouble with it coming back up after a sleep.  That plus some
other issues (it ran hot just running a browser, for example) are making
me question whether this is a good idea.

Does anyone else run a CentOS (not necessarily 7) on Apple hardware,
particularly laptops (and not in a VM)?  If so, any pointers on making
life easier?  TBH I don't really know exactly what I want to use it for
yet, so suggestions there would be helpful too.

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Re: [CentOS] new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

[Frank Cox]

On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 02:12:04 +0100
Always Learning wrote:

> 
> On Sun, 2015-09-13 at 18:15 -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
> > On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 00:55:45 +0100
> > Always Learning wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > > Where does one obtain the RPM for Centos 5 and 6, please ?
> > 
> > > > See: vault.centos.org
> > > 
> > > Thank you. Vault seems to be source RPMs. I was seeking something easier
> > > as binary RPMs.
> > 
> > Look in the os directory.
> 
> 
> http://vault.centos.org/5.11/os/
> 
> http://vault.centos.org/centos/5.11/os/
> 
> have *.src.rpm


All of the other 5.x subdirectories on the vault server contain x86_64 and i386 
binary rpms.

Since 5.11 is still "current" you can find the binaries on a regular Centos 
update server.  For example, http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/centos/5.11/os/ 
has them.

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Re: [CentOS] centos 7 on older macbook pro

[David Nelson]

This doesn't really help with your problem, but to address the specific 
question below: 

I run CentOS 7, and previously 6, on a Mac Pro (MacPro4,1). My experience has 
been good. I haven't bothered running anything to read hfs volumes as I'm not 
dual-booting it. I have a separate MacBook Pro machine for my OS X needs.

We run mostly CentOS for servers, but on the desktop side of things we are 
fairly Mac heavy. I wanted something decent to run a CentOS desktop and this 
hardware was available at the time. 

 
> On Sep 13, 2015, at 19:33, Keith Keller  
> wrote:
> 
> Does anyone else run a CentOS (not necessarily 7) on Apple hardware,
> particularly laptops (and not in a VM)?  If so, any pointers on making
> life easier?
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Re: [CentOS] centos 7 on older macbook pro

[Keith Keller]

On 2015-09-14, Hal Wigoda wrote:
> Use Oracles VM VirtualBox.

Well, I explicitly don't want to do that, since it uses even more
resources than OS X by itself.  Having linux run on the bare metal
without OS X should be much more efficient.

> On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 9:33 PM, Keith Keller wrote:
>> Then I got to the point of configuring wifi, and of course being a MBP,
>> it has a proprietary Broadcom interface.  I followed the instructions on
>> the wiki (https://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Wireless/Broadcom), but
>> had some trouble with it coming back up after a sleep.  That plus some
>> other issues (it ran hot just running a browser, for example) are making
>> me question whether this is a good idea.

As sometimes happens, I wrote too soon.  I think the wifi issue may have
been a misconfiguration on my part, and so far Firefox has been fine.
It could have been a transient issue that I unintentionally resolved.

I was really surprised to see that streaming video and audio worked
without having to do anything.  And even KDE has not been too much of a
dog so far, though I'm still thinking to install something like fluxbox
or blackbox.  I actually haven't had a linux desktop in a long time so
I'm very much out of practice.

So far, after the first hiccups, CentOS 7 has been much faster on the
old MBP than OS X is.  I'm optimistic that I can find a use for it, even
if it's just having a laptop I can use if my family wants the new MBP.

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Re: [CentOS] centos 7 on older macbook pro

[Hal Wigoda]

Really, I don't have a clue.

On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Keith Keller <
kkel...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> wrote:

> On 2015-09-14, Hal Wigoda wrote:
> > Use Oracles VM VirtualBox.
>
> Well, I explicitly don't want to do that, since it uses even more
> resources than OS X by itself.  Having linux run on the bare metal
> without OS X should be much more efficient.
>
> > On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 9:33 PM, Keith Keller wrote:
> >> Then I got to the point of configuring wifi, and of course being a MBP,
> >> it has a proprietary Broadcom interface.  I followed the instructions on
> >> the wiki (https://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Wireless/Broadcom),
> but
> >> had some trouble with it coming back up after a sleep.  That plus some
> >> other issues (it ran hot just running a browser, for example) are making
> >> me question whether this is a good idea.
>
> As sometimes happens, I wrote too soon.  I think the wifi issue may have
> been a misconfiguration on my part, and so far Firefox has been fine.
> It could have been a transient issue that I unintentionally resolved.
>
> I was really surprised to see that streaming video and audio worked
> without having to do anything.  And even KDE has not been too much of a
> dog so far, though I'm still thinking to install something like fluxbox
> or blackbox.  I actually haven't had a linux desktop in a long time so
> I'm very much out of practice.
>
> So far, after the first hiccups, CentOS 7 has been much faster on the
> old MBP than OS X is.  I'm optimistic that I can find a use for it, even
> if it's just having a laptop I can use if my family wants the new MBP.
>
> --keith
>
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