Re: [CentOS] C7, systemd, say what?!

2017-06-09 Thread Fred Smith 
On Fri, Jun 09, 2017 at 02:30:23PM -0600, Warren Young wrote:
> On Jun 9, 2017, at 10:08 AM, Michael Hennebry 
>  wrote:
> > 
> > On Thu, 8 Jun 2017, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> > 
> >> Maybe we need another mailing list, like alt.religion.editors*, we could
> >> have alt.religion.systemd 
> >> 
> >> mark
> >> 
> >> * vi, not emacs! Nya
> > 
> > You mean 6, right?
> 
> The developer of Sublime Text is hard at work on his third attempt at a Vi 
> emulating plugin, apparently having run into walls with the prior two 
> attempts.  He is calling his latest attempt…Six.  :)
> 


somehow nobody reads old stuff, or maybe everybody ignores it.
Bill Joy and Mark Horton wrote DECADES ago that its name is Vee-Eye,
not Vye, or Six (or 6).


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Re: [CentOS] OT - lowest power, cheapest python interpreter

2017-06-09 Thread Fred Smith 
On Fri, Jun 09, 2017 at 01:10:16PM -0700, John R Pierce wrote:
> On 6/9/2017 12:44 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
> >On Fri, Jun 09, 2017 at 09:00:42PM +0200, Andrew Holway wrote:
> >>I am searching for the cheapeat *nix SOC device with ethernet and wifi that
> >>can run Python 2.7. Ethernet should be 100mbit and hopefully supporting PXE.
> >>
> >>OT because im doubting you can squeeze our bloaty friend onto such a
> >>device:)
> >Raspberry Pi 3B  35 bucks notincluding power supply or SD card.
> >
> >the only thing I'm not sure of is the PXE part.
> 
> 
> Pi 3 supports PXE over ethernet without using an SD card... I don't
> believe the older Pi's do, unless you put the PXE bootloader on an
> SD card.
> 
> I usually figure a Pi costs $50 + SD card, as I like to put them in
> a case, and they do need a decent 2 amp MicroUSB PSU, you can get a
> case + wallwart for $15 on top of the $35 board cost.

For Pi3B the recommend wallwart is 2.5 amps.

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Re: [CentOS] OT - lowest power, cheapest python interpreter

2017-06-09 Thread Dave Stevens 
On Fri, 9 Jun 2017 15:44:47 -0400
Fred Smith  wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 09, 2017 at 09:00:42PM +0200, Andrew Holway wrote:
> > I am searching for the cheapeat *nix SOC device with ethernet and
> > wifi that can run Python 2.7. Ethernet should be 100mbit and
> > hopefully supporting PXE.
> > 
> > OT because im doubting you can squeeze our bloaty friend onto such a
> > device :)  
> 
> Raspberry Pi 3B  35 bucks notincluding power supply or SD card.
> 
> the only thing I'm not sure of is the PXE part.
> 
> 

see here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/48af52/raspberry_pi_3_usb_and_pxe_network_boot_boot/

d


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[CentOS] test builds on private server updates (mesa, kernel)

2017-06-09 Thread Andreas Benzler 
Hello Guys,


I really wanted to just update mesa. But the Linux kernel was also done quickly.

- Mesa  17.1.2 (remove sanitizy check, otherwise fail to built)
- Kernel 4.11.4

can be found at:


http://centos.cms4all.org/repo/7/kernel/

http://centos.cms4all.org/repo/7/mesa/



Unfortunately still no time found to care about winehq. 
OK. My daughter plays under the same driver stack in manjaro linux World of 
Warcraft for hours
and my Fedora in the business also runs stable over several days without 
failures.

https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/andybe/


Good night.

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Re: [CentOS] OT - lowest power, cheapest python interpreter

2017-06-09 Thread Valeri Galtsev 

On Fri, June 9, 2017 2:00 pm, Andrew Holway wrote:
> I am searching for the cheapeat *nix SOC device with ethernet and wifi
> that
> can run Python 2.7. Ethernet should be 100mbit and hopefully supporting
> PXE.
>
> OT because im doubting you can squeeze our bloaty friend onto such a
> device :)

I don't know what your device's goal is, but you may think of running
pfsense as a system on it:

https://www.pfsense.org/download/

, and you should be able to add to it FreeBSD packages, between which you
can find almost anything:

https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Installing_FreeBSD_Packages

- just mentioning (much!) slimmer thing (once you mentioned "our bloaty
friend").

Good luck!

Valeri


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Re: [CentOS] [SOLVED] using autofs on C-7

2017-06-09 Thread Akemi Yagi 
On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 12:54 PM, Fred Smith
 wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 09, 2017 at 01:58:25PM -0400, Fred Smith wrote:

>> > Your current setup does not agree with the instructions. May I suggest
>> > you follow the example in the wiki exactly as it is written? If you
>> > confirm that works, you can replace the name etc to fit your
>> > situation.
>> >
>> > Akemi
>>
>> Akemi:
>>
>> thanks for the reply!
>>
>> I was struggling with the instructions because some things are not
>> defined, and left to the reader to figure out. Not blaming you, all the
>> other instructions I saw have the same issue. but if, for example, there
>> was a clear statement of how/where the name of the local mount point
>> was defined I might have gotten it right, but as it is I had to guess.
>>
>> But I'll go do what you suggest and see what happens.
>>
>> thanks again!
>>
>
> OK, I've got it working, and Akemi's suggestion helped me figure it out.
>
> This is in /etc/auto.master:
>
> /mnt /etc/auto.mnt
>
> and this is in /etc/auto.mnt:
>
> #
> # mounts public and home shares on the NasBox.
> #
> .   syno-public 
> -fstype=cifs,rw,credentials=/root/.smbcred,defaults,uid=fredex,gid=fredex,noauto,users,exec,vers=3.0
>  ://nasbox/public
>
> syno-fredex 
> -fstype=cifs,rw,credentials=/root/.smbcred,defaults,uid=fredex,gid=fredex,noauto,users,exec,vers=3.0
>  ://nasbox/home
>
> trying to access /mnt/syno-fredex, then, mounts my home directory on the
> Nasbox there, and access of /mnt/syno-public mounts the public share from
> the Nasbox there.
>
> It all makes sense now.
>
> thanks Akemi!
>
> PS, would it be worth documenting the systemd automount feature in the
> same wiki article?

Glad to hear you've got it working.

Sure, your contribution to the wiki article is much appreciated. :)

Akemi
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Re: [CentOS] C7, systemd, say what?!

2017-06-09 Thread Warren Young 
On Jun 9, 2017, at 10:08 AM, Michael Hennebry  
wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 8 Jun 2017, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> 
>> Maybe we need another mailing list, like alt.religion.editors*, we could
>> have alt.religion.systemd 
>> 
>> mark
>> 
>> * vi, not emacs! Nya
> 
> You mean 6, right?

The developer of Sublime Text is hard at work on his third attempt at a Vi 
emulating plugin, apparently having run into walls with the prior two attempts. 
 He is calling his latest attempt…Six.  :)

http://www.sublimesix.com/
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Re: [CentOS] using autofs on C-7

2017-06-09 Thread John Hodrien 

On Thu, 8 Jun 2017, Kenneth Porter wrote:


Automounting is now done through systemd.


Can be done through systemd, not has to be done via systemd.  It'd be news to
me that there's anything stopping you using autofs.

I see no way to replicate most of the functionality of autofs with this.

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Re: [CentOS] using autofs on C-7

2017-06-09 Thread Valeri Galtsev 

On Fri, June 9, 2017 2:56 am, John Hodrien wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Jun 2017, Kenneth Porter wrote:
>
>> Automounting is now done through systemd.
>
> Can be done through systemd, not has to be done via systemd.  It'd be news
> to
> me that there's anything stopping you using autofs.

Indeed. At least on one CentOS 7 box I set up mounting NFS via autofs
(automounter) exactly the same way I was setting them up on CentOS 6,
5,... Didn't even think it might have to be done differently before
reading this thread ;-)

Valeri

>
> I see no way to replicate most of the functionality of autofs with this.
>
> jh



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Re: [CentOS] C7, systemd, say what?!

2017-06-09 Thread Michael Hennebry 

On Thu, 8 Jun 2017, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:


Maybe we need another mailing list, like alt.religion.editors*, we could
have alt.religion.systemd 

 mark

* vi, not emacs! Nya


You mean 6, right?

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Re: [CentOS] using autofs on C-7

2017-06-09 Thread Akemi Yagi 
On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 6:18 AM, Fred Smith
 wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 09, 2017 at 08:25:31AM -0400, Jonathan Billings wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 04:02:05PM -0700, Kenneth Porter wrote:
>> > Automounting is now done through systemd.
>>
>> In my use, we continue to use autofs for automounts of CIFS volumes,
>> because as best I can tell, systemd doesn't support using the
>> request-key infrastructure to use a user's kerberos ticket to set up
>> the automount.
>
> Glad to know it still works.
>
> Could any of you look back at my first post and give me a hint
> what I'm doing wrong? (I can repost if necessary.)

Your current setup does not agree with the instructions. May I suggest
you follow the example in the wiki exactly as it is written? If you
confirm that works, you can replace the name etc to fit your
situation.

Akemi
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Re: [CentOS] using autofs on C-7

2017-06-09 Thread Fred Smith 
On Fri, Jun 09, 2017 at 08:25:31AM -0400, Jonathan Billings wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 04:02:05PM -0700, Kenneth Porter wrote:
> > Automounting is now done through systemd.
> 
> In my use, we continue to use autofs for automounts of CIFS volumes,
> because as best I can tell, systemd doesn't support using the
> request-key infrastructure to use a user's kerberos ticket to set up
> the automount.

Glad to know it still works.

Could any of you look back at my first post and give me a hint
what I'm doing wrong? (I can repost if necessary.)

thanks!
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Re: [CentOS] using autofs on C-7

2017-06-09 Thread Jonathan Billings 
On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 04:02:05PM -0700, Kenneth Porter wrote:
> Automounting is now done through systemd.

In my use, we continue to use autofs for automounts of CIFS volumes,
because as best I can tell, systemd doesn't support using the
request-key infrastructure to use a user's kerberos ticket to set up
the automount.

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Re: [CentOS] using autofs on C-7

2017-06-09 Thread Fred Smith 
On Fri, Jun 09, 2017 at 08:45:26AM -0700, Akemi Yagi wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 6:18 AM, Fred Smith
>  wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 09, 2017 at 08:25:31AM -0400, Jonathan Billings wrote:
> >> On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 04:02:05PM -0700, Kenneth Porter wrote:
> >> > Automounting is now done through systemd.
> >>
> >> In my use, we continue to use autofs for automounts of CIFS volumes,
> >> because as best I can tell, systemd doesn't support using the
> >> request-key infrastructure to use a user's kerberos ticket to set up
> >> the automount.
> >
> > Glad to know it still works.
> >
> > Could any of you look back at my first post and give me a hint
> > what I'm doing wrong? (I can repost if necessary.)
> 
> Your current setup does not agree with the instructions. May I suggest
> you follow the example in the wiki exactly as it is written? If you
> confirm that works, you can replace the name etc to fit your
> situation.
> 
> Akemi

Akemi:

thanks for the reply!

I was struggling with the instructions because some things are not
defined, and left to the reader to figure out. Not blaming you, all the
other instructions I saw have the same issue. but if, for example, there
was a clear statement of how/where the name of the local mount point
was defined I might have gotten it right, but as it is I had to guess.

But I'll go do what you suggest and see what happens.

thanks again!

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[CentOS] OT - lowest power, cheapest python interpreter

2017-06-09 Thread Andrew Holway 
I am searching for the cheapeat *nix SOC device with ethernet and wifi that
can run Python 2.7. Ethernet should be 100mbit and hopefully supporting PXE.

OT because im doubting you can squeeze our bloaty friend onto such a
device :)
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Re: [CentOS] OT - lowest power, cheapest python interpreter

2017-06-09 Thread Fred Smith 
On Fri, Jun 09, 2017 at 09:00:42PM +0200, Andrew Holway wrote:
> I am searching for the cheapeat *nix SOC device with ethernet and wifi that
> can run Python 2.7. Ethernet should be 100mbit and hopefully supporting PXE.
> 
> OT because im doubting you can squeeze our bloaty friend onto such a
> device :)

Raspberry Pi 3B  35 bucks notincluding power supply or SD card.

the only thing I'm not sure of is the PXE part.


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Re: [CentOS] [SOLVED] using autofs on C-7

2017-06-09 Thread Fred Smith 
On Fri, Jun 09, 2017 at 01:58:25PM -0400, Fred Smith wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 09, 2017 at 08:45:26AM -0700, Akemi Yagi wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 6:18 AM, Fred Smith
> >  wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jun 09, 2017 at 08:25:31AM -0400, Jonathan Billings wrote:
> > >> On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 04:02:05PM -0700, Kenneth Porter wrote:
> > >> > Automounting is now done through systemd.
> > >>
> > >> In my use, we continue to use autofs for automounts of CIFS volumes,
> > >> because as best I can tell, systemd doesn't support using the
> > >> request-key infrastructure to use a user's kerberos ticket to set up
> > >> the automount.
> > >
> > > Glad to know it still works.
> > >
> > > Could any of you look back at my first post and give me a hint
> > > what I'm doing wrong? (I can repost if necessary.)
> > 
> > Your current setup does not agree with the instructions. May I suggest
> > you follow the example in the wiki exactly as it is written? If you
> > confirm that works, you can replace the name etc to fit your
> > situation.
> > 
> > Akemi
> 
> Akemi:
> 
> thanks for the reply!
> 
> I was struggling with the instructions because some things are not
> defined, and left to the reader to figure out. Not blaming you, all the
> other instructions I saw have the same issue. but if, for example, there
> was a clear statement of how/where the name of the local mount point
> was defined I might have gotten it right, but as it is I had to guess.
> 
> But I'll go do what you suggest and see what happens.
> 
> thanks again!
> 

OK, I've got it working, and Akemi's suggestion helped me figure it out.

This is in /etc/auto.master:

/mnt /etc/auto.mnt

and this is in /etc/auto.mnt:

#
# mounts public and home shares on the NasBox.
#
.   syno-public 
-fstype=cifs,rw,credentials=/root/.smbcred,defaults,uid=fredex,gid=fredex,noauto,users,exec,vers=3.0
 ://nasbox/public

syno-fredex 
-fstype=cifs,rw,credentials=/root/.smbcred,defaults,uid=fredex,gid=fredex,noauto,users,exec,vers=3.0
 ://nasbox/home

trying to access /mnt/syno-fredex, then, mounts my home directory on the
Nasbox there, and access of /mnt/syno-public mounts the public share from
the Nasbox there. 

It all makes sense now.

thanks Akemi!

PS, would it be worth documenting the systemd automount feature in the
same wiki article?

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Re: [CentOS] OT - lowest power, cheapest python interpreter

2017-06-09 Thread John R Pierce 

On 6/9/2017 12:44 PM, Fred Smith wrote:

On Fri, Jun 09, 2017 at 09:00:42PM +0200, Andrew Holway wrote:

I am searching for the cheapeat *nix SOC device with ethernet and wifi that
can run Python 2.7. Ethernet should be 100mbit and hopefully supporting PXE.

OT because im doubting you can squeeze our bloaty friend onto such a
device:)

Raspberry Pi 3B  35 bucks notincluding power supply or SD card.

the only thing I'm not sure of is the PXE part.



Pi 3 supports PXE over ethernet without using an SD card... I don't 
believe the older Pi's do, unless you put the PXE bootloader on an SD card.


I usually figure a Pi costs $50 + SD card, as I like to put them in a 
case, and they do need a decent 2 amp MicroUSB PSU, you can get a case + 
wallwart for $15 on top of the $35 board cost.



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