Re: [CentOS-docs] Wiki deuglification, last (at the moment) part

2007-11-21 Thread Nick Sklav

On Wed, 2007-11-21 at 10:02 -0800, Akemi Yagi wrote:
> On Nov 21, 2007 9:31 AM, Ralph Angenendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hey
> 
> Let's go live now.
> 
> Akemi


I Second the opinion of going live. let this baby be the new face of the
wiki. Also fine tuning is an art and takes a life time ;)
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Wiki deuglification, last (at the moment) part

2007-11-21 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Nov 21, 2007 9:31 AM, Ralph Angenendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey

Let's go live now.

Akemi
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Wiki deuglification, last (at the moment) part

2007-11-21 Thread Tim Verhoeven
On Nov 21, 2007 6:31 PM, Ralph Angenendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> one last change maybe - with the 3% padding on top and bottom, we really
> lose screen estate at the top.
>
> How does it look to you without any padding at top/bottom (leaving a
> 10px white line there)? That's what's live on wiki-m.centos.org at the
> moment.
>
> Or, if all of you want to have some more space above there (and the
> background pattern) go with 1% padding?
>
> 1% padding means that there will be *1* line of checkered boxes over the
> white space over the header ...
>
> [insert personal opinion: 1% padding looks better, IMHO, but other
> people seem to like the 0% padding instead.]
>
>
> Other than that, I'd like to call this the "Final Version" for now, with
> which I'd like to go live on the real wiki before 5.1/4.6 hit the
> mirrors.
You have a go for me. Let's get this online. It is already a great
improvement over the current one. And it would be great to get this
going before the 5.1 release.

> That doesn't mean that we won't improve the design any further, but I'd
> like to show some progress to the outside (release early, release often)
> ...

Indeed, finetuning can be done over the coming days and weeks.

Regards,
Tim

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Wiki deuglification, last (at the moment) part

2007-11-21 Thread Daniel de Kok
On Wed, 2007-11-21 at 17:36 +, Lance Davis wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Nov 2007, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
> 
> > Hey,
> >
> > one last change maybe - with the 3% padding on top and bottom, we really
> > lose screen estate at the top.
> >
> > How does it look to you without any padding at top/bottom (leaving a
> > 10px white line there)? That's what's live on wiki-m.centos.org at the
> > moment.
> 
> Looks fine - I would do the same at the sides as well.

I am not sure. It is known from studies that people can only read
optimally up to a certain text width. Not that a fixed size is enforced
now, but the smaller relative width it has now, improves the readability
of longer texts.

*If* we want to fill up the sides, I think it is better to do that with
menus or some other content in the future.

-- Daniel

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Wiki deuglification, last (at the moment) part

2007-11-21 Thread Dag Wieers
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007, Ralph Angenendt wrote:

> one last change maybe - with the 3% padding on top and bottom, we really
> lose screen estate at the top.
>
> How does it look to you without any padding at top/bottom (leaving a
> 10px white line there)? That's what's live on wiki-m.centos.org at the
> moment.
>
> Or, if all of you want to have some more space above there (and the
> background pattern) go with 1% padding?
>
> 1% padding means that there will be *1* line of checkered boxes over the
> white space over the header ...
>
> [insert personal opinion: 1% padding looks better, IMHO, but other
> people seem to like the 0% padding instead.]
>
>
> Other than that, I'd like to call this the "Final Version" for now, with
> which I'd like to go live on the real wiki before 5.1/4.6 hit the
> mirrors.
>
> That doesn't mean that we won't improve the design any further, but I'd
> like to show some progress to the outside (release early, release often)
> ...

I would bring it live right now and do the optimisations later. There is
no need to get clearance of those things if most people already condoned
most of the meat :)

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Wiki deuglification, last (at the moment) part

2007-11-21 Thread Lance Davis

On Wed, 21 Nov 2007, Ralph Angenendt wrote:


Hey,

one last change maybe - with the 3% padding on top and bottom, we really
lose screen estate at the top.

How does it look to you without any padding at top/bottom (leaving a
10px white line there)? That's what's live on wiki-m.centos.org at the
moment.


Looks fine - I would do the same at the sides as well.

Lance

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[CentOS-docs] Wiki deuglification, last (at the moment) part

2007-11-21 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Hey,

one last change maybe - with the 3% padding on top and bottom, we really
lose screen estate at the top. 

How does it look to you without any padding at top/bottom (leaving a
10px white line there)? That's what's live on wiki-m.centos.org at the
moment.

Or, if all of you want to have some more space above there (and the
background pattern) go with 1% padding?

1% padding means that there will be *1* line of checkered boxes over the
white space over the header ...

[insert personal opinion: 1% padding looks better, IMHO, but other
people seem to like the 0% padding instead.]


Other than that, I'd like to call this the "Final Version" for now, with
which I'd like to go live on the real wiki before 5.1/4.6 hit the
mirrors.

That doesn't mean that we won't improve the design any further, but I'd
like to show some progress to the outside (release early, release often)
...

Cheers,

Ralph


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