Re: MP3 player
I treat MP3 players as disposable electronics. I buy the cheapest I can find and use it until it wears out. Then I buy another. Currently, I have a Nextar 1GB player that resembles a thumb drive. I have had it over a year and paid around $15 for it. I have had several before this one that were not as durable as this one. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281187 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
Re: Christians
I'm not sure what's so terrible about someone actually trying to do something to help others. No matter what their religious belief. Yves Arsenault Love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into a friend. --Martin Luther King, Jr. On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 12:04 AM, Gruss Gott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, granted, there are some Christians on the lunatic fringe who take their beliefs a little too far. Take my coworker Karen, for example. She's way off the deep end when it comes to religion: going down to the homeless shelter to volunteer once a month, donating money to the poor, visiting elderly shut-ins with the Meals on Wheels programyou name it! But believe me, we're not all that way. The people in my church, for the most part, are perfectly ordinary Americans like you and me. They believe in the simple old-fashioned traditionsChristmas, Easter, the slow and deliberate takeover of more and more county school boards to get the political power necessary to ban evolution from textbooks statewide. That sort of thing. http://www.theonion.com/content/opinion/im_not_one_of_those_love_thy ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281188 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
RE: MP3 player
-Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:22 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: MP3 player I treat MP3 players as disposable electronics. I buy the cheapest I can find and use it until it wears out. Then I buy another. Currently, I have a Nextar 1GB player that resembles a thumb drive. I have had it over a year and paid around $15 for it. I have had several before this one that were not as durable as this one. That's actually the main reason I bought the Sansa to begin with: I'm cheap. I'd been using my PocketPC as a music player for years - but it's an old one and can't use over a 1 Gig expansion card. With all the other crap I keep on there I was pretty limited in storage. When Woot had the Sansa for $40 (4 Gig, up to 6 via micro SD card) I decided to give it a try and was pleasantly surprised. Of course the day it actually came they had the 8 Gig model for $65... and just recently (I think at NewEgg) they had the 16 Gig (which I think does SDHD which means up to 24 Gig with a card) for less than $100. Basically as soon as electronics dip below the price of a PlayStation game they're fair game for me. ;^) Jim Davis ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281189 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
RE: MP3 player
I'm at Newegg looking at the Zune compared to Sandisk Fuze. Both are 4gig and have 5 out of 5 stars but Sandisk is $40 cheaper. -Original Message- From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:44 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: MP3 player -Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:22 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: MP3 player I treat MP3 players as disposable electronics. I buy the cheapest I can find and use it until it wears out. Then I buy another. Currently, I have a Nextar 1GB player that resembles a thumb drive. I have had it over a year and paid around $15 for it. I have had several before this one that were not as durable as this one. That's actually the main reason I bought the Sansa to begin with: I'm cheap. I'd been using my PocketPC as a music player for years - but it's an old one and can't use over a 1 Gig expansion card. With all the other crap I keep on there I was pretty limited in storage. When Woot had the Sansa for $40 (4 Gig, up to 6 via micro SD card) I decided to give it a try and was pleasantly surprised. Of course the day it actually came they had the 8 Gig model for $65... and just recently (I think at NewEgg) they had the 16 Gig (which I think does SDHD which means up to 24 Gig with a card) for less than $100. Basically as soon as electronics dip below the price of a PlayStation game they're fair game for me. ;^) Jim Davis ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281190 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
RE: Tires
If it's a rip or puncture in the side wall its generally not safe to repair. If there is a nail in the thread, then take it to a garage for a plug. Shouldn't cost more than 10 bucks. The front tires of my F150 have had several plugs inserted (home reno here last year and I'm still finding nails the hard way) -Original Message- From: Greg Morphis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 5:52 PM To: cf-community Subject: Tires I took my truck in yesterday for an oil change, this morning the front passenger tire is dead.. So flat it looked like the truck was tipping. So I doubt I could call and argue that something happened there and it didnt happen on the way home from the shop. I called and a new tire is about 167 at wallyworld.. it's a bridgestone but my other tires are michelin. I wont have a problem with that but there's also the option of tire repair (if it's repairable).. So my question to you all is how reliable are the tire repair kits? I've got a F-150 1/2 ton.. if it matters.. Thanks in advance ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281191 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
Re: Tyranical bigot can't stop thinking
Great post Michael. Welcome to the group. On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Michael Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since the numerous forum posts on the gay marriage subject I haven't been able to stop thinking about this issue. I have a tendency to be a little o.c. when I have a problem to solve. It's a blessing when it comes to app development, but a bit of a curse in everyday life. So I've been running this over and over in my brain the past couple of days. Trying to analyze the reason for my opinions, if I feel it's right etc etc. Well last night we had dinner with Peter and Brian, a gay couple that have been friends of my wife and I for years. PB are the straightest gay couple you've ever met. You'd be very hard pressed to discern they're gay unless they tell you. We've never discussed the issue of gay marriage before. In fact our conversations rarely have anything to do with sexual orientation. So I brought it up with them after dinner and over our second bottle of shiraz. We have a very open and honest friendship and there's never any need to not say exactly what's on your mind for fear of being judged. So in our usual fashion I just laid it on the table exactly what I thought about marriage and my views on gays marrying. They both listened to what I had to say and when I was done Peter looked at me and said after all these years I had no idea you were retarded. You hide it very well Michael. This of course got a laugh but spurned one of the most honest and open discussions I've ever had. Peter and Brian both told us about what it was like growing up 'different' and the self loathing they felt for so many years. The shame of growing up gay in 70's and 80's and the absolute joy of finding each other and becoming a couple. They talked about how different times are now than they used to be, but how far things still need to go. After about an hour of stories Brian asked me since you've known us have you ever questioned our devotion to each other? I said no. And do you want us to be happy? I said yes. And has having us around ever made you love your wife less? By this time I knew where the conversation was going and I was already feeling a little embarrassed by my comments at the start of the conversation. I said no, of course not. I was expecting some Bill Cosby-esque moral to the story when Brian said in a deadpan voice Then quit being such a fucktard. That was pretty much the end of the conversation. We played Euchre for a couple of hours and they went home. Now I'm not saying I've made a 180 degree turn. There's still a part of me that's holding on to the idea of between a man and a woman but I definitely realise that I don't have much of a leg to stand on. They happen to not really care one way or the other about being married but that's not really the point. The point is that I wouldn't want to deny PB the same happiness or opportunities that I have. I've read through that whole thread again, and know that other than my first post all of the posts I made were from a defensive position. I was being forced to defend an opinion that from the start I knew I hadn't put a whole lot of thought into. When one has to defend something there is a tendency to stop thinking about what it is you are defending and simply put your energies into the defense itself. Us and them syndrome as it were. So that's that. My mind isn't completely changed. This isn't an after school special or a p.s.a. However I felt I owed it to you all to share it. Cheers ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281192 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: needy dog
We do some of this, he does need more exercise, although he'd rather snuggle on the couch than run about in our huge back yard (that we bought for him and his brother). It's a weird situation, we have three dogs, MacGregor, a Great Pyrenees (Pyrenean Mountain Dog) , Finnegan, the dog in question and Kayleigh, a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel (a puppy mill rescue). Of the three MacGregor is the Alpha, but he defers to me as Alpha, I speak he does whatever I ask him without hesitation. Alot of what your describing is the Ceasar Milan methodology, exercise, discipline, affection, we use the shh and the neck touch when disciplining. When that doesn't work, I've been blessed, with a very loud commanding voice (years of vocal training.) and that usually get's everyone's attention. I think Finnegan needs some more work, he's come along way from the dog he was when we got him... Michael Grant [Modus IS] wrote: Scott, sounds like a bit of a dominance issue to me. Your dog doesn't respect the heirarchy of your family. Remember that dogs are pack animals and there's only one leader of the pack. (vroom vroom, cue the music) There's a few suggestions I can make for what it's worth. Hounds are work dogs and are task oriented. So you need to put him to work, or what he thinks is work anyway. The best way to do this is excercise and 'seek' tasks. Hounds are sniffers so get one of his favorite outdoor toys and work with him. Take him to a quiet park or if you have a big back yard that will work. Have him sit/stay and let him sniff the toy. Have him watch you hide his toy behind a tree, bush etc. Then come back to him and release him. Have him fetch it up or whatever command you prefer. He should insticntively seek out the toy. If not, help him with the concept. Don't neccessarilly expect him to retrieve it for you, not his breed. Praise him lightly for finding it, rinse repeat. This may sound goofy but it will help your dog in two ways, 1) it helps instill that you are the leader of the family and 2) it's what he was born to do so it helps him feel satisfied. Also taking him for a good run will help work out some energy too, as long as you don't let him go first. Since you are the leader you need have him follow you, not the other way around. If he tries to move ahead of you a quick firm upward tug on his leash everytime he tries. Obviously you're not trying to hurt the dog, just shake him out of his current state of mind, which is I'm the alpha, follow me. It also helps if you have a sound you use when correcting the dog. Some people use clickers, some people use a st or uhuh sound. My stupid human trick is that I can snap incredibly loud, so I snap when I correct. It's important that you correct him right away and every time. He'll catch on faster than you think. Directly regarding the bulldozer effect, you apply the above. If he tries to bulldoze correct him and have him sit/stay or lay down. If you watch closely you should be able to see the exact point when his mind is becoming fixated on wanting to get up and bulldoze. As soon as you see this you correct him with your click/sound/snap. You are trying to shake him out of his fixation on bulldozing and have him fixate on you, the alpha. If you consistently do this he should begin to learn that he needs your approval/invitation to get cuddles. Remember that a dog is one of two things, the leader or the follower. If you (or anyone/everyone in your family) establish yourself as the alpha he only knows one other role, which is follower. Not that you would, but do not scold or hit your dog when you are working with him though. You are correcting him, not punishing him. Also, don't at any time praise or cuddle him when he's exhibiting bad behavior otherwise it will all go to pot. If he's whiney also don't comfort him. Saying stuff like it's ok etc when he's exhibiting bad behavior only enforces that he gets positive attention when behaving badly. And make sure you don't lose your cool or get frustrated. Dogs are phenomenal readers of body language (would make great poker players) and react best when you are calm, firm and unwavering. This is how I've always trained my dogs and believe me that they are much happier when they know who's in charge (which is never them), what their boundries are and when they get regular excercise. Hope this helps. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281193 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
Re: Christians
Wow.come on peoplethe ONION. That's awesome satire, as usualtake an issue and turn it on it's head. Classic. On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 6:43 AM, Yves Arsenault [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I'm not sure what's so terrible about someone actually trying to do something to help others. No matter what their religious belief. Yves Arsenault Love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into a friend. --Martin Luther King, Jr. On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 12:04 AM, Gruss Gott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, granted, there are some Christians on the lunatic fringe who take their beliefs a little too far. Take my coworker Karen, for example. She's way off the deep end when it comes to religion: going down to the homeless shelter to volunteer once a month, donating money to the poor, visiting elderly shut-ins with the Meals on Wheels programyou name it! But believe me, we're not all that way. The people in my church, for the most part, are perfectly ordinary Americans like you and me. They believe in the simple old-fashioned traditionsChristmas, Easter, the slow and deliberate takeover of more and more county school boards to get the political power necessary to ban evolution from textbooks statewide. That sort of thing. http://www.theonion.com/content/opinion/im_not_one_of_those_love_thy ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281194 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: MP3 player
my music, and my musicality would never let me put them on anything other than an ipod. -- tony Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. -- siddhartha gautama On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Scott Raley -ITC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm at Newegg looking at the Zune compared to Sandisk Fuze. Both are 4gig and have 5 out of 5 stars but Sandisk is $40 cheaper. -Original Message- From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:44 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: MP3 player -Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:22 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: MP3 player I treat MP3 players as disposable electronics. I buy the cheapest I can find and use it until it wears out. Then I buy another. Currently, I have a Nextar 1GB player that resembles a thumb drive. I have had it over a year and paid around $15 for it. I have had several before this one that were not as durable as this one. That's actually the main reason I bought the Sansa to begin with: I'm cheap. I'd been using my PocketPC as a music player for years - but it's an old one and can't use over a 1 Gig expansion card. With all the other crap I keep on there I was pretty limited in storage. When Woot had the Sansa for $40 (4 Gig, up to 6 via micro SD card) I decided to give it a try and was pleasantly surprised. Of course the day it actually came they had the 8 Gig model for $65... and just recently (I think at NewEgg) they had the 16 Gig (which I think does SDHD which means up to 24 Gig with a card) for less than $100. Basically as soon as electronics dip below the price of a PlayStation game they're fair game for me. ;^) Jim Davis ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281195 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
RE: Christians
No shit right? People arguing over the onion, jesus. -Original Message- From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 8:35 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Christians Wow.come on peoplethe ONION. That's awesome satire, as usualtake an issue and turn it on it's head. Classic. On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 6:43 AM, Yves Arsenault [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I'm not sure what's so terrible about someone actually trying to do something to help others. No matter what their religious belief. Yves Arsenault Love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into a friend. --Martin Luther King, Jr. On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 12:04 AM, Gruss Gott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, granted, there are some Christians on the lunatic fringe who take their beliefs a little too far. Take my coworker Karen, for example. She's way off the deep end when it comes to religion: going down to the homeless shelter to volunteer once a month, donating money to the poor, visiting elderly shut-ins with the Meals on Wheels program-you name it! But believe me, we're not all that way. The people in my church, for the most part, are perfectly ordinary Americans like you and me. They believe in the simple old-fashioned traditions-Christmas, Easter, the slow and deliberate takeover of more and more county school boards to get the political power necessary to ban evolution from textbooks statewide. That sort of thing. http://www.theonion.com/content/opinion/im_not_one_of_those_love_thy ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281196 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: Christians
Wow.come on peoplethe ONION. That's awesome satire, as usualtake an issue and turn it on it's head. Classic. Like I said, Consider the source. I wasn't talking about Gruss there, I was talking about the Onion. Happy Monday! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281197 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: MP3 player
Buying something other than an iPod is like proposing with cubic zirconia. :) On Nov 24, 2008, at 7:43 AM, Tony wrote: my music, and my musicality would never let me put them on anything other than an ipod. -- tony Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. -- siddhartha gautama On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Scott Raley -ITC [EMAIL PROTECTED] llc.com wrote: I'm at Newegg looking at the Zune compared to Sandisk Fuze. Both are 4gig and have 5 out of 5 stars but Sandisk is $40 cheaper. -Original Message- From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:44 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: MP3 player -Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:22 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: MP3 player I treat MP3 players as disposable electronics. I buy the cheapest I can find and use it until it wears out. Then I buy another. Currently, I have a Nextar 1GB player that resembles a thumb drive. I have had it over a year and paid around $15 for it. I have had several before this one that were not as durable as this one. That's actually the main reason I bought the Sansa to begin with: I'm cheap. I'd been using my PocketPC as a music player for years - but it's an old one and can't use over a 1 Gig expansion card. With all the other crap I keep on there I was pretty limited in storage. When Woot had the Sansa for $40 (4 Gig, up to 6 via micro SD card) I decided to give it a try and was pleasantly surprised. Of course the day it actually came they had the 8 Gig model for $65... and just recently (I think at NewEgg) they had the 16 Gig (which I think does SDHD which means up to 24 Gig with a card) for less than $100. Basically as soon as electronics dip below the price of a PlayStation game they're fair game for me. ;^) Jim Davis ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281198 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: Christians
I was unaware I was arguing. I just posted 2 cents worth without reading the onion. I know the onion is satire. Yves Arsenault Love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into a friend. --Martin Luther King, Jr. On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 9:48 AM, Loathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No shit right? People arguing over the onion, jesus. -Original Message- From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 8:35 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Christians Wow.come on peoplethe ONION. That's awesome satire, as usualtake an issue and turn it on it's head. Classic. On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 6:43 AM, Yves Arsenault [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I'm not sure what's so terrible about someone actually trying to do something to help others. No matter what their religious belief. Yves Arsenault Love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into a friend. --Martin Luther King, Jr. On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 12:04 AM, Gruss Gott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, granted, there are some Christians on the lunatic fringe who take their beliefs a little too far. Take my coworker Karen, for example. She's way off the deep end when it comes to religion: going down to the homeless shelter to volunteer once a month, donating money to the poor, visiting elderly shut-ins with the Meals on Wheels program-you name it! But believe me, we're not all that way. The people in my church, for the most part, are perfectly ordinary Americans like you and me. They believe in the simple old-fashioned traditions-Christmas, Easter, the slow and deliberate takeover of more and more county school boards to get the political power necessary to ban evolution from textbooks statewide. That sort of thing. http://www.theonion.com/content/opinion/im_not_one_of_those_love_thy ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281199 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: YOU make the call!
Once againpeople are stupid. On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Dana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well it isn't just random graffitti if they voted for them in some races. But in the contested Al Franken race they wrote in Lizard People but filled in the bubble for one of the candidates. WTH. On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Erika L. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess they felt the Lizard People weren't better than the other guy they decided to vote for instead. :) On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 8:29 AM, Dana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: did you look at those? Why would someone write Lizard people on a ballot and (usually) vote for them, but not in every race? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281200 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: needy dog
Hi Scott, Glad you're getting some results at least. The discipline/exercise/affection method is becoming more popular thanks to Caesar. My family has always just kind of got dogs and it's how my father taught me to understand dogs. The method works because it's very similar to how a pack functions. One leader keeps everyone in their place via discipline. Dogs inherently want to exercise so they're always following the alpha, reinforcing the relationship. (Many to One relationship if you're a db guy. waaw) And when the pack is functioning well with it's hierarchy well established there is a LOT of play, which rounds out the affection part. If you don't mind I have a few questions. 1. Do you let any or all of the dogs on the couch? 2. Do you ever work the dogs together as a group? 3. How is MacGregor asserting himself as the alpha? 4. Does he do this when you're all together as a group? Cheers -Original message- From: Scott Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 08:33:21 -0500 To: cf-community cf-community@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: needy dog We do some of this, he does need more exercise, although he'd rather snuggle on the couch than run about in our huge back yard (that we bought for him and his brother). It's a weird situation, we have three dogs, MacGregor, a Great Pyrenees (Pyrenean Mountain Dog) , Finnegan, the dog in question and Kayleigh, a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel (a puppy mill rescue). Of the three MacGregor is the Alpha, but he defers to me as Alpha, I speak he does whatever I ask him without hesitation. Alot of what your describing is the Ceasar Milan methodology, exercise, discipline, affection, we use the shh and the neck touch when disciplining. When that doesn't work, I've been blessed, with a very loud commanding voice (years of vocal training.) and that usually get's everyone's attention. I think Finnegan needs some more work, he's come along way from the dog he was when we got him... Michael Grant [Modus IS] wrote: Scott, sounds like a bit of a dominance issue to me. Your dog doesn't respect the heirarchy of your family. Remember that dogs are pack animals and there's only one leader of the pack. (vroom vroom, cue the music) There's a few suggestions I can make for what it's worth. Hounds are work dogs and are task oriented. So you need to put him to work, or what he thinks is work anyway. The best way to do this is excercise and 'seek' tasks. Hounds are sniffers so get one of his favorite outdoor toys and work with him. Take him to a quiet park or if you have a big back yard that will work. Have him sit/stay and let him sniff the toy. Have him watch you hide his toy behind a tree, bush etc. Then come back to him and release him. Have him fetch it up or whatever command you prefer. He should insticntively seek out the toy. If not, help him with the concept. Don't neccessarilly expect him to retrieve it for you, not his breed. Praise him lightly for finding it, rinse repeat. This may sound goofy but it will help your dog in two ways, 1) it helps instill that you are the leader of the family and 2) it's what he was born to do so it helps him feel satisfied. Also taking him for a good run will help work out some energy too, as long as you don't let him go first. Since you are the leader you need have him follow you, not the other way around. If he tries to move ahead of you a quick firm upward tug on his leash everytime he tries. Obviously you're not trying to hurt the dog, just shake him out of his current state of mind, which is I'm the alpha, follow me. It also helps if you have a sound you use when correcting the dog. Some people use clickers, some people use a st or uhuh sound. My stupid human trick is that I can snap incredibly loud, so I snap when I correct. It's important that you correct him right away and every time. He'll catch on faster than you think. Directly regarding the bulldozer effect, you apply the above. If he tries to bulldoze correct him and have him sit/stay or lay down. If you watch closely you should be able to see the exact point when his mind is becoming fixated on wanting to get up and bulldoze. As soon as you see this you correct him with your click/sound/snap. You are trying to shake him out of his fixation on bulldozing and have him fixate on you, the alpha. If you consistently do this he should begin to learn that he needs your approval/invitation to get cuddles. Remember that a dog is one of two things, the leader or the follower. If you (or anyone/everyone in your family) establish yourself as the alpha he only knows one other role, which is follower. Not that you would, but do not scold or hit your dog when you are working with him though. You are correcting him, not punishing him. Also, don't at any time praise or cuddle him when he's exhibiting bad behavior otherwise it
RE: Tyranical bigot can't stop thinking
Hi Michael, I just want to say thank you, and I appreciate you taking this issue further and thinking about it. I know that it is not ever easy to change a long-held opinion and of course I would not expect you to do a 180-degree about face over the course of a weekend; that's crazy. But the fact that you would even bring up the topic at all, let alone start to challenge your own preconceptions about it, is something that warms my heart. The best thing I can do to change someone's opinion is not to convince them to change it - it's merely to convince them to think about it. Thank you for sharing - this actually means a lot to me as an activist. David Churvis -Original Message- From: Michael Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 12:28 PM To: cf-community Subject: Tyranical bigot can't stop thinking Since the numerous forum posts on the gay marriage subject I haven't been able to stop thinking about this issue. I have a tendency to be a little o.c. when I have a problem to solve. It's a blessing when it comes to app development, but a bit of a curse in everyday life. So I've been running this over and over in my brain the past couple of days. Trying to analyze the reason for my opinions, if I feel it's right etc etc. Well last night we had dinner with Peter and Brian, a gay couple that have been friends of my wife and I for years. PB are the straightest gay couple you've ever met. You'd be very hard pressed to discern they're gay unless they tell you. We've never discussed the issue of gay marriage before. In fact our conversations rarely have anything to do with sexual orientation. So I brought it up with them after dinner and over our second bottle of shiraz. We have a very open and honest friendship and there's never any need to not say exactly what's on your mind for fear of being judged. So in our usual fashion I just laid it on the table exactly what I thought about marriage and my views on gays marrying. They both listened to what I had to say and when I was done Peter looked at me and said after all these years I had no idea you were retarded. You hide it very well Michael. This of course got a laugh but spurned one of the most honest and open discussions I've ever had. Peter and Brian both told us about what it was like growing up 'different' and the self loathing they felt for so many years. The shame of growing up gay in 70's and 80's and the absolute joy of finding each other and becoming a couple. They talked about how different times are now than they used to be, but how far things still need to go. After about an hour of stories Brian asked me since you've known us have you ever questioned our devotion to each other? I said no. And do you want us to be happy? I said yes. And has having us around ever made you love your wife less? By this time I knew where the conversation was going and I was already feeling a little embarrassed by my comments at the start of the conversation. I said no, of course not. I was expecting some Bill Cosby-esque moral to the story when Brian said in a deadpan voice Then quit being such a fucktard. That was pretty much the end of the conversation. We played Euchre for a couple of hours and they went home. Now I'm not saying I've made a 180 degree turn. There's still a part of me that's holding on to the idea of between a man and a woman but I definitely realise that I don't have much of a leg to stand on. They happen to not really care one way or the other about being married but that's not really the point. The point is that I wouldn't want to deny PB the same happiness or opportunities that I have. I've read through that whole thread again, and know that other than my first post all of the posts I made were from a defensive position. I was being forced to defend an opinion that from the start I knew I hadn't put a whole lot of thought into. When one has to defend something there is a tendency to stop thinking about what it is you are defending and simply put your energies into the defense itself. Us and them syndrome as it were. So that's that. My mind isn't completely changed. This isn't an after school special or a p.s.a. However I felt I owed it to you all to share it. Cheers ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281202 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
RE: Tyranical bigot can't stop thinking
Dude. Chill. The fact that he's thinking about this means that if he does change his mind, then it will be a reasoned change and he will be better able to defend it to others. Chill out and let him think about it. David Churvis -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 11:46 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Tyranical bigot can't stop thinking JJ wrote: Got to say I think Michael is the more reasonable person on this Gruss. You are the one being a jerk. Michael gets points for examining himself (he he) - let's say 2 points. He loses 10,000,000 for making others pay the cost for his luxury. The principle is simple - equal rights for all. Born black. Born gay. Born female. Born aboriginal. How many fecking times do we need to watch people oppress others before we - as a people - get a fecking clue? So if I'm unreasonable for expecting a human to recognize his oppressive instincts and reject them then so be it. But I could package that up as pity bullshit if it sells better. No, I guess I probably couldn't. Wasn't born with that gene. Huh. Oppression opportunity there huh! W00t! Where are the legislators ... ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281203 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: Tyranical bigot can't stop thinking
GG, I admit that I wasn't separating the legal from the moral; though emotional is probably a more appropriate term. I was looking at the whole ball of wax as Marriage. Full Stop. I would expect that most people that put up, for lack of a better term, soft opposition have never thought about it as two separate issues. When you do the dichotomy becomes clear. What's also become clear to me is that you can actually oppose gay marriage (should you want to) while supporting the right for any two individuals to marry. I think if more people realized this there would be less actual opposition. I know it took me a while to understand the real issue and I consider myself fairly intelligent. Cheers ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281204 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: MP3 player
best way to put it. -- tony Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. -- siddhartha gautama On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Buying something other than an iPod is like proposing with cubic zirconia. :) On Nov 24, 2008, at 7:43 AM, Tony wrote: my music, and my musicality would never let me put them on anything other than an ipod. -- tony Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. -- siddhartha gautama On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Scott Raley -ITC [EMAIL PROTECTED] llc.com wrote: I'm at Newegg looking at the Zune compared to Sandisk Fuze. Both are 4gig and have 5 out of 5 stars but Sandisk is $40 cheaper. -Original Message- From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:44 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: MP3 player -Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:22 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: MP3 player I treat MP3 players as disposable electronics. I buy the cheapest I can find and use it until it wears out. Then I buy another. Currently, I have a Nextar 1GB player that resembles a thumb drive. I have had it over a year and paid around $15 for it. I have had several before this one that were not as durable as this one. That's actually the main reason I bought the Sansa to begin with: I'm cheap. I'd been using my PocketPC as a music player for years - but it's an old one and can't use over a 1 Gig expansion card. With all the other crap I keep on there I was pretty limited in storage. When Woot had the Sansa for $40 (4 Gig, up to 6 via micro SD card) I decided to give it a try and was pleasantly surprised. Of course the day it actually came they had the 8 Gig model for $65... and just recently (I think at NewEgg) they had the 16 Gig (which I think does SDHD which means up to 24 Gig with a card) for less than $100. Basically as soon as electronics dip below the price of a PlayStation game they're fair game for me. ;^) Jim Davis ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281205 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: Christians
Seriously, you couldn't smell the sarcasm coming off that post? It was dripping with it and smelled gd. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281206 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
RE: Tyranical bigot can't stop thinking
For a more computer based discussion of the issue (which we all here should appreciate). Check out http://qntm.org/?gay Note, that I am for Gay marriage, I am for multiple marriages, but yeah, trying to model that in a computer is going to be a bit dicey,. -Original Message- From: Michael Grant [Modus I.S.] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 9:40 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Tyranical bigot can't stop thinking GG, I admit that I wasn't separating the legal from the moral; though emotional is probably a more appropriate term. I was looking at the whole ball of wax as Marriage. Full Stop. I would expect that most people that put up, for lack of a better term, soft opposition have never thought about it as two separate issues. When you do the dichotomy becomes clear. What's also become clear to me is that you can actually oppose gay marriage (should you want to) while supporting the right for any two individuals to marry. I think if more people realized this there would be less actual opposition. I know it took me a while to understand the real issue and I consider myself fairly intelligent. Cheers ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281207 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: Christians
Who me? Yves Arsenault Love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into a friend. --Martin Luther King, Jr. On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Michael Grant [Modus I.S.] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seriously, you couldn't smell the sarcasm coming off that post? It was dripping with it and smelled gd. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281208 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
Re: Christians
Aye, you. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281209 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
RE: startrek
David, I keep telling you that it's Dr. Spock, not Mister Spock, and that it goes To boldly go where no person has before now. And the Asian guy's name is Mr. Solo (I think his first name is Han). What, do I have to do a Vulcan Tuna Melt with you to get this across? Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement -Original Message- From: David Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 5:08 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: startrek I am a die-hard Trekker and trivia buff, which has always made me a nerd, and about the only thing I have to cling to is making fun of Star Wars fans. Meanwhile, Adam couldn't care less about any of it, so he makes fun of me and my love of Trek every chance he gets. David Churvis -Original Message- From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 4:52 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: startrek David Churvis wrote: At least I'm not a Star Wars fanboy. David -Original Message- From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] .and I'm gonna need a series of very strong drinks to get me through the *BITCHING YOU'RE GOING TO DO ABOUT THIS MOVIE!!!* I sense some amusing, to us outside spectators, history here. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281210 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: needy dog
1) yes..(and the bed) frequently, although Mac, with his size and abundance of fur gets hot pretty quickly and will retreat to the floor where it's cooler. 2) not often enough.. 3) Protects his food, first one out the door (unless I'm going out with them), bark and growl when either my wife or myself isn;t in the room, were interpreting this as Mom and Dad aren't here so I'm in charge. 4) He will protect his food, though not from my wife and I, we can simply walk up and take it from him Michael Grant [Modus I.S.] wrote: Hi Scott, Glad you're getting some results at least. The discipline/exercise/affection method is becoming more popular thanks to Caesar. My family has always just kind of got dogs and it's how my father taught me to understand dogs. The method works because it's very similar to how a pack functions. One leader keeps everyone in their place via discipline. Dogs inherently want to exercise so they're always following the alpha, reinforcing the relationship. (Many to One relationship if you're a db guy. waaw) And when the pack is functioning well with it's hierarchy well established there is a LOT of play, which rounds out the affection part. If you don't mind I have a few questions. 1. Do you let any or all of the dogs on the couch? 2. Do you ever work the dogs together as a group? 3. How is MacGregor asserting himself as the alpha? 4. Does he do this when you're all together as a group? Cheers -Original message- From: Scott Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 08:33:21 -0500 To: cf-community cf-community@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: needy dog We do some of this, he does need more exercise, although he'd rather snuggle on the couch than run about in our huge back yard (that we bought for him and his brother). It's a weird situation, we have three dogs, MacGregor, a Great Pyrenees (Pyrenean Mountain Dog) , Finnegan, the dog in question and Kayleigh, a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel (a puppy mill rescue). Of the three MacGregor is the Alpha, but he defers to me as Alpha, I speak he does whatever I ask him without hesitation. Alot of what your describing is the Ceasar Milan methodology, exercise, discipline, affection, we use the shh and the neck touch when disciplining. When that doesn't work, I've been blessed, with a very loud commanding voice (years of vocal training.) and that usually get's everyone's attention. I think Finnegan needs some more work, he's come along way from the dog he was when we got him... Michael Grant [Modus IS] wrote: Scott, sounds like a bit of a dominance issue to me. Your dog doesn't respect the heirarchy of your family. Remember that dogs are pack animals and there's only one leader of the pack. (vroom vroom, cue the music) There's a few suggestions I can make for what it's worth. Hounds are work dogs and are task oriented. So you need to put him to work, or what he thinks is work anyway. The best way to do this is excercise and 'seek' tasks. Hounds are sniffers so get one of his favorite outdoor toys and work with him. Take him to a quiet park or if you have a big back yard that will work. Have him sit/stay and let him sniff the toy. Have him watch you hide his toy behind a tree, bush etc. Then come back to him and release him. Have him fetch it up or whatever command you prefer. He should insticntively seek out the toy. If not, help him with the concept. Don't neccessarilly expect him to retrieve it for you, not his breed. Praise him lightly for finding it, rinse repeat. This may sound goofy but it will help your dog in two ways, 1) it helps instill that you are the leader of the family and 2) it's what he was born to do so it helps him feel satisfied. Also taking him for a good run will help work out some energy too, as long as you don't let him go first. Since you are the leader you need have him follow you, not the other way around. If he tries to move ahead of you a quick firm upward tug on his leash everytime he tries. Obviously you're not trying to hurt the dog, just shake him out of his current state of mind, which is I'm the alpha, follow me. It also helps if you have a sound you use when correcting the dog. Some people use clickers, some people use a st or uhuh sound. My stupid human trick is that I can snap incredibly loud, so I snap when I correct. It's important that you correct him right away and every time. He'll catch on faster than you think. Directly regarding the bulldozer effect, you apply the above. If he tries to bulldoze correct him and have him sit/stay or lay down. If you watch closely you should be able to see the exact point when his mind is becoming fixated on wanting to get up and bulldoze. As soon as you see this you correct him with your click/sound/snap. You are trying to shake him out of his fixation on bulldozing and have him fixate on you, the alpha. If you consistently do this
RE: startrek
And it's Star Track, dammit! Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement -Original Message- From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 9:56 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: startrek David, I keep telling you that it's Dr. Spock, not Mister Spock, and that it goes To boldly go where no person has before now. And the Asian guy's name is Mr. Solo (I think his first name is Han). What, do I have to do a Vulcan Tuna Melt with you to get this across? Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement -Original Message- From: David Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 5:08 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: startrek I am a die-hard Trekker and trivia buff, which has always made me a nerd, and about the only thing I have to cling to is making fun of Star Wars fans. Meanwhile, Adam couldn't care less about any of it, so he makes fun of me and my love of Trek every chance he gets. David Churvis -Original Message- From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 4:52 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: startrek David Churvis wrote: At least I'm not a Star Wars fanboy. David -Original Message- From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] .and I'm gonna need a series of very strong drinks to get me through the *BITCHING YOU'RE GOING TO DO ABOUT THIS MOVIE!!!* I sense some amusing, to us outside spectators, history here. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281212 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
Re: Christians
Maybe not but even if I didn't that happens all the time on mailing lists and blogs... and no not just to me. And like I said, I just posted a general comment. Is there a problem with posting a general comment not directed at anyone? I know what the Onion is. And I get a laugh out of it occasionally. Yves Arsenault Love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into a friend. --Martin Luther King, Jr. On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Michael Grant [Modus I.S.] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aye, you. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281214 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
RE: MP3 player
And if the woman doesn't know diamonds why not use a cheap imitation? Same with the mp3 player.. -Original Message- From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 8:56 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: MP3 player Buying something other than an iPod is like proposing with cubic zirconia. :) On Nov 24, 2008, at 7:43 AM, Tony wrote: my music, and my musicality would never let me put them on anything other than an ipod. -- tony Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. -- siddhartha gautama On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Scott Raley -ITC [EMAIL PROTECTED] llc.com wrote: I'm at Newegg looking at the Zune compared to Sandisk Fuze. Both are 4gig and have 5 out of 5 stars but Sandisk is $40 cheaper. -Original Message- From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:44 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: MP3 player -Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:22 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: MP3 player I treat MP3 players as disposable electronics. I buy the cheapest I can find and use it until it wears out. Then I buy another. Currently, I have a Nextar 1GB player that resembles a thumb drive. I have had it over a year and paid around $15 for it. I have had several before this one that were not as durable as this one. That's actually the main reason I bought the Sansa to begin with: I'm cheap. I'd been using my PocketPC as a music player for years - but it's an old one and can't use over a 1 Gig expansion card. With all the other crap I keep on there I was pretty limited in storage. When Woot had the Sansa for $40 (4 Gig, up to 6 via micro SD card) I decided to give it a try and was pleasantly surprised. Of course the day it actually came they had the 8 Gig model for $65... and just recently (I think at NewEgg) they had the 16 Gig (which I think does SDHD which means up to 24 Gig with a card) for less than $100. Basically as soon as electronics dip below the price of a PlayStation game they're fair game for me. ;^) Jim Davis ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281215 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: MP3 player
Because, like diamonds, if she doesn't know, her friends will, and you'll be screwed. Give her a Sansa, and her friend with the iPod will show her up. Nobody wants that. :) On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Scott Raley -ITC [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: And if the woman doesn't know diamonds why not use a cheap imitation? Same with the mp3 player.. -Original Message- From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 8:56 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: MP3 player Buying something other than an iPod is like proposing with cubic zirconia. :) On Nov 24, 2008, at 7:43 AM, Tony wrote: my music, and my musicality would never let me put them on anything other than an ipod. -- tony Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. -- siddhartha gautama On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Scott Raley -ITC [EMAIL PROTECTED] llc.com wrote: I'm at Newegg looking at the Zune compared to Sandisk Fuze. Both are 4gig and have 5 out of 5 stars but Sandisk is $40 cheaper. -Original Message- From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:44 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: MP3 player -Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:22 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: MP3 player I treat MP3 players as disposable electronics. I buy the cheapest I can find and use it until it wears out. Then I buy another. Currently, I have a Nextar 1GB player that resembles a thumb drive. I have had it over a year and paid around $15 for it. I have had several before this one that were not as durable as this one. That's actually the main reason I bought the Sansa to begin with: I'm cheap. I'd been using my PocketPC as a music player for years - but it's an old one and can't use over a 1 Gig expansion card. With all the other crap I keep on there I was pretty limited in storage. When Woot had the Sansa for $40 (4 Gig, up to 6 via micro SD card) I decided to give it a try and was pleasantly surprised. Of course the day it actually came they had the 8 Gig model for $65... and just recently (I think at NewEgg) they had the 16 Gig (which I think does SDHD which means up to 24 Gig with a card) for less than $100. Basically as soon as electronics dip below the price of a PlayStation game they're fair game for me. ;^) Jim Davis ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281217 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: Christians
No problem at all. Post away. I was just posting because I thought you might have missed the sarcasm. :) ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281216 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: Christians
ok.;-) Yves Arsenault Love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into a friend. --Martin Luther King, Jr. On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Michael Grant [Modus I.S.] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No problem at all. Post away. I was just posting because I thought you might have missed the sarcasm. :) ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281218 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
RE: startrek
Judging by the content of your post, I think you must have looked at a Kelvan ambassador without the proper mental conditioning and sensory garment. You're gibbering. David Churvis -Original Message- From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 9:56 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: startrek David, I keep telling you that it's Dr. Spock, not Mister Spock, and that it goes To boldly go where no person has before now. And the Asian guy's name is Mr. Solo (I think his first name is Han). What, do I have to do a Vulcan Tuna Melt with you to get this across? Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement -Original Message- From: David Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 5:08 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: startrek I am a die-hard Trekker and trivia buff, which has always made me a nerd, and about the only thing I have to cling to is making fun of Star Wars fans. Meanwhile, Adam couldn't care less about any of it, so he makes fun of me and my love of Trek every chance he gets. David Churvis -Original Message- From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 4:52 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: startrek David Churvis wrote: At least I'm not a Star Wars fanboy. David -Original Message- From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] .and I'm gonna need a series of very strong drinks to get me through the *BITCHING YOU'RE GOING TO DO ABOUT THIS MOVIE!!!* I sense some amusing, to us outside spectators, history here. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281213 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: MP3 player
I would like this to be true - the last time I set up an iPod (last Christmas for my niece) I couldn't even figure out how to install new firmware without iTunes installed. I needed to use iTunes to register the device and there was no way to install iTunes without making the default media player on the system. Well, I expect you need to have iTunes if you have an iPod, I would not be surprised if there's no way around that. The question is just whether you can use another (better) media app as well. Here's the jriver forum for ipod users. There are some interesting threads in there about Apple trying to prevent ipod/itouch/iphone users from using anything but iTunes, and pretty much every new version they come out with you can expect will have new firmware to try to prevent the 3rd party apps from working. http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?board=8.0 ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281219 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: needy dog
Please don't take any criticisms I'm about to make personally. Take them objectively and in regards to the dogs, not the dog owners. :) 1) yes..(and the bed) frequently, although Mac, with his size and abundance of fur gets hot pretty quickly and will retreat to the floor where it's cooler. This can cause problems. Kind of blurs the line between humans and dogs. We have a 100% four on the floor rule with dogs. Beds, chairs, couches etc are for people. You may think it sounds mean, but trust me, the dogs don't see it that way. At first the dogs may whine but just stay consistent and they will forget about it altogether. Remember that dogs live in the moment. They don't think I used to be able to go on the couch and now I can't. My owner is mean. Buy or make your dogs each a bed. Generally dogs love it when they have their own little spot. Also, you'll have a better sleep with a dogless bed. 2) not often enough.. This will help a lot to enforce that they are all a pack and that you and your family are the leader. 3) Protects his food, first one out the door (unless I'm going out with them), bark and growl when either my wife or myself isn;t in the room, were interpreting this as Mom and Dad aren't here so I'm in charge. 4) He will protect his food, though not from my wife and I, we can simply walk up and take it from him You need to try and put a stop to this. Growling is the early warning system before attacking. You need to try to snap the dog out of that frame of mind altogether. It will require staying by the dogs during meal time and use the discipline method I described last time to try and break this habit. I don't know if you have kids but this is one of the biggest reasons to put a stop to this behavior. Children have no qualms about sticking their hand in a dogs food bowl while he eating. This could obviously have dire consequences. And don't only correct the dog that's growling, correct the dogs that are trying to get to his bowl too. It's a little harder to enforce behavior when they are in the yard alone, but if you hear/see any of your dogs posturing as alpha you need to get in there and remind them all that it's you. Correct the dogs, make them sit. Dogs can't be aggressive while they are sitting. With all of this it just takes a bit of dedication and a lot of consistency. Try to relate all your dogs behavior to how a pack would operate. With you of course being the alpha. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281221 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: MP3 player
Because, like diamonds, if she doesn't know, her friends will, and you'll be screwed. Give her a Sansa, and her friend with the iPod will show her up. Nobody wants that. :) This is just silly. I don't know about a Sansa, but whenever I take my clix out and play with it, everyone is like, wow, that's so cool, what is that? Take out an iPod and you get ho-hum, another ipod. The main thing an ipod has going for it is that everyone buys them and everyone markets to them. So you can be a lemming and follow the pack, or look at what else is out there, often players that have more features, better sound quality, better battery life, etc. I wonder as well how much Apple's refusal to support ogg vorbis has effected that codec's ability to really make any groundway over MP3's. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281222 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
RE: MP3 player
It's not her friends, it's the friends kids that want an iPod. I've talked to a few of them already before posting the email. That's why I posted the email since the friends didn't really help. -Original Message- From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 10:12 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: MP3 player Because, like diamonds, if she doesn't know, her friends will, and you'll be screwed. Give her a Sansa, and her friend with the iPod will show her up. Nobody wants that. :) On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Scott Raley -ITC [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: And if the woman doesn't know diamonds why not use a cheap imitation? Same with the mp3 player.. -Original Message- From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 8:56 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: MP3 player Buying something other than an iPod is like proposing with cubic zirconia. :) On Nov 24, 2008, at 7:43 AM, Tony wrote: my music, and my musicality would never let me put them on anything other than an ipod. -- tony Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. -- siddhartha gautama On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Scott Raley -ITC [EMAIL PROTECTED] llc.com wrote: I'm at Newegg looking at the Zune compared to Sandisk Fuze. Both are 4gig and have 5 out of 5 stars but Sandisk is $40 cheaper. -Original Message- From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:44 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: MP3 player -Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:22 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: MP3 player I treat MP3 players as disposable electronics. I buy the cheapest I can find and use it until it wears out. Then I buy another. Currently, I have a Nextar 1GB player that resembles a thumb drive. I have had it over a year and paid around $15 for it. I have had several before this one that were not as durable as this one. That's actually the main reason I bought the Sansa to begin with: I'm cheap. I'd been using my PocketPC as a music player for years - but it's an old one and can't use over a 1 Gig expansion card. With all the other crap I keep on there I was pretty limited in storage. When Woot had the Sansa for $40 (4 Gig, up to 6 via micro SD card) I decided to give it a try and was pleasantly surprised. Of course the day it actually came they had the 8 Gig model for $65... and just recently (I think at NewEgg) they had the 16 Gig (which I think does SDHD which means up to 24 Gig with a card) for less than $100. Basically as soon as electronics dip below the price of a PlayStation game they're fair game for me. ;^) Jim Davis ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281223 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
RE: startrek
But I go to Star Trek conventions! That's getting out! -Original Message- From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:07 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: startrek David, son, you *really* need to get out more... Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281227 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: needy dog
No worries Scott. I feel that if you follow some of my advice you'll be rewarded. It would require some changes in how you view the dogs, but at least you can feel good that you and your wife will be the only ones who feel bad about the changes. The dogs will be ok with it. If my advice just doesn't fit in with how you want to raise your dogs that's ok too. Good luck and cheers. -Original message- From: Scott Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 11:10:09 -0500 To: cf-community cf-community@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: needy dog I don't :) One of our major malfunctions is that we subscribe to the dogs as kids model... and we both work an eight hour plus day. The wife usually gets home before I do and feeds the hungry babies Each dogs is required to sit, before they get food. MacGregor is required to go through his whole gamut of tricks, before food or treats, as an aside the research we did on Pyrs told us that while they have a great personality, the dog must know that he's not in charge. Pyrs being huge dogs can be quite dangerous if out of control. I think we have Mac pretty well under control. Our dogs are pretty mindful, If I tell any of them off (which translates to Your sitting in my spot) they immediately move so I can sit down. We do need to do alot of work with them. Michael Grant [Modus I.S.] wrote: Please don't take any criticisms I'm about to make personally. Take them objectively and in regards to the dogs, not the dog owners. :) 1) yes..(and the bed) frequently, although Mac, with his size and abundance of fur gets hot pretty quickly and will retreat to the floor where it's cooler. This can cause problems. Kind of blurs the line between humans and dogs. We have a 100% four on the floor rule with dogs. Beds, chairs, couches etc are for people. You may think it sounds mean, but trust me, the dogs don't see it that way. At first the dogs may whine but just stay consistent and they will forget about it altogether. Remember that dogs live in the moment. They don't think I used to be able to go on the couch and now I can't. My owner is mean. Buy or make your dogs each a bed. Generally dogs love it when they have their own little spot. Also, you'll have a better sleep with a dogless bed. 2) not often enough.. This will help a lot to enforce that they are all a pack and that you and your family are the leader. 3) Protects his food, first one out the door (unless I'm going out with them), bark and growl when either my wife or myself isn;t in the room, were interpreting this as Mom and Dad aren't here so I'm in charge. 4) He will protect his food, though not from my wife and I, we can simply walk up and take it from him You need to try and put a stop to this. Growling is the early warning system before attacking. You need to try to snap the dog out of that frame of mind altogether. It will require staying by the dogs during meal time and use the discipline method I described last time to try and break this habit. I don't know if you have kids but this is one of the biggest reasons to put a stop to this behavior. Children have no qualms about sticking their hand in a dogs food bowl while he eating. This could obviously have dire consequences. And don't only correct the dog that's growling, correct the dogs that are trying to get to his bowl too. It's a little harder to enforce behavior when they are in the yard alone, but if you hear/see any of your dogs posturing as alpha you need to get in there and remind them all that it's you. Correct the dogs, make them sit. Dogs can't be aggressive while they are sitting. With all of this it just takes a bit of dedication and a lot of consistency. Try to relate all your dogs behavior to how a pack would operate. With you of course being the alpha. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281228 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
Re: needy dog
I think were just lazy :) We're both devotees of Caesar Milan... but when Finnegan puts on his Professional Sad Puppy face it's hard to say no to him... It amazes sometimes what stray dogs learn on the streets Michael Grant [Modus I.S.] wrote: No worries Scott. I feel that if you follow some of my advice you'll be rewarded. It would require some changes in how you view the dogs, but at least you can feel good that you and your wife will be the only ones who feel bad about the changes. The dogs will be ok with it. If my advice just doesn't fit in with how you want to raise your dogs that's ok too. Good luck and cheers. -Original message- From: Scott Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 11:10:09 -0500 To: cf-community cf-community@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: needy dog I don't :) One of our major malfunctions is that we subscribe to the dogs as kids model... and we both work an eight hour plus day. The wife usually gets home before I do and feeds the hungry babies Each dogs is required to sit, before they get food. MacGregor is required to go through his whole gamut of tricks, before food or treats, as an aside the research we did on Pyrs told us that while they have a great personality, the dog must know that he's not in charge. Pyrs being huge dogs can be quite dangerous if out of control. I think we have Mac pretty well under control. Our dogs are pretty mindful, If I tell any of them off (which translates to Your sitting in my spot) they immediately move so I can sit down. We do need to do alot of work with them. Michael Grant [Modus I.S.] wrote: Please don't take any criticisms I'm about to make personally. Take them objectively and in regards to the dogs, not the dog owners. :) 1) yes..(and the bed) frequently, although Mac, with his size and abundance of fur gets hot pretty quickly and will retreat to the floor where it's cooler. This can cause problems. Kind of blurs the line between humans and dogs. We have a 100% four on the floor rule with dogs. Beds, chairs, couches etc are for people. You may think it sounds mean, but trust me, the dogs don't see it that way. At first the dogs may whine but just stay consistent and they will forget about it altogether. Remember that dogs live in the moment. They don't think I used to be able to go on the couch and now I can't. My owner is mean. Buy or make your dogs each a bed. Generally dogs love it when they have their own little spot. Also, you'll have a better sleep with a dogless bed. 2) not often enough.. This will help a lot to enforce that they are all a pack and that you and your family are the leader. 3) Protects his food, first one out the door (unless I'm going out with them), bark and growl when either my wife or myself isn;t in the room, were interpreting this as Mom and Dad aren't here so I'm in charge. 4) He will protect his food, though not from my wife and I, we can simply walk up and take it from him You need to try and put a stop to this. Growling is the early warning system before attacking. You need to try to snap the dog out of that frame of mind altogether. It will require staying by the dogs during meal time and use the discipline method I described last time to try and break this habit. I don't know if you have kids but this is one of the biggest reasons to put a stop to this behavior. Children have no qualms about sticking their hand in a dogs food bowl while he eating. This could obviously have dire consequences. And don't only correct the dog that's growling, correct the dogs that are trying to get to his bowl too. It's a little harder to enforce behavior when they are in the yard alone, but if you hear/see any of your dogs posturing as alpha you need to get in there and remind them all that it's you. Correct the dogs, make them sit. Dogs can't be aggressive while they are sitting. With all of this it just takes a bit of dedication and a lot of consistency. Try to relate all your dogs behavior to how a pack would operate. With you of course being the alpha. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281229 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
RE: MP3 player
I do not use ITunes with my IPod. I manage it with a 3rd party program called Anapod Explorer from Red Chair software which has never had an issue with my IPod. I only carry MP3 tracks on my IPOD and don't deal with buying music which can't be transferred. If I do buy a song. Its burn to CD and then rip as MP3. http://www.redchairsoftware.com/ -Original Message- From: Mary Jo Sminkey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 10:38 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: MP3 player I would like this to be true - the last time I set up an iPod (last Christmas for my niece) I couldn't even figure out how to install new firmware without iTunes installed. I needed to use iTunes to register the device and there was no way to install iTunes without making the default media player on the system. Well, I expect you need to have iTunes if you have an iPod, I would not be surprised if there's no way around that. The question is just whether you can use another (better) media app as well. Here's the jriver forum for ipod users. There are some interesting threads in there about Apple trying to prevent ipod/itouch/iphone users from using anything but iTunes, and pretty much every new version they come out with you can expect will have new firmware to try to prevent the 3rd party apps from working. http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?board=8.0 ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281220 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: MP3 player
I do not use ITunes with my IPod. I manage it with a 3rd party program called Anapod Explorer from Red Chair software which has never had an issue with my IPod. Oh yeah, I used to use that as well with my Archos player. Good program. Has anyone tried Rockbox? That would be another option for iPod users. http://www.rockbox.org/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281224 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
Re: startrek
Is it sad that this side thread had made me smile with every post? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281230 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: needy dog
I don't :) One of our major malfunctions is that we subscribe to the dogs as kids model... and we both work an eight hour plus day. The wife usually gets home before I do and feeds the hungry babies Each dogs is required to sit, before they get food. MacGregor is required to go through his whole gamut of tricks, before food or treats, as an aside the research we did on Pyrs told us that while they have a great personality, the dog must know that he's not in charge. Pyrs being huge dogs can be quite dangerous if out of control. I think we have Mac pretty well under control. Our dogs are pretty mindful, If I tell any of them off (which translates to Your sitting in my spot) they immediately move so I can sit down. We do need to do alot of work with them. Michael Grant [Modus I.S.] wrote: Please don't take any criticisms I'm about to make personally. Take them objectively and in regards to the dogs, not the dog owners. :) 1) yes..(and the bed) frequently, although Mac, with his size and abundance of fur gets hot pretty quickly and will retreat to the floor where it's cooler. This can cause problems. Kind of blurs the line between humans and dogs. We have a 100% four on the floor rule with dogs. Beds, chairs, couches etc are for people. You may think it sounds mean, but trust me, the dogs don't see it that way. At first the dogs may whine but just stay consistent and they will forget about it altogether. Remember that dogs live in the moment. They don't think I used to be able to go on the couch and now I can't. My owner is mean. Buy or make your dogs each a bed. Generally dogs love it when they have their own little spot. Also, you'll have a better sleep with a dogless bed. 2) not often enough.. This will help a lot to enforce that they are all a pack and that you and your family are the leader. 3) Protects his food, first one out the door (unless I'm going out with them), bark and growl when either my wife or myself isn;t in the room, were interpreting this as Mom and Dad aren't here so I'm in charge. 4) He will protect his food, though not from my wife and I, we can simply walk up and take it from him You need to try and put a stop to this. Growling is the early warning system before attacking. You need to try to snap the dog out of that frame of mind altogether. It will require staying by the dogs during meal time and use the discipline method I described last time to try and break this habit. I don't know if you have kids but this is one of the biggest reasons to put a stop to this behavior. Children have no qualms about sticking their hand in a dogs food bowl while he eating. This could obviously have dire consequences. And don't only correct the dog that's growling, correct the dogs that are trying to get to his bowl too. It's a little harder to enforce behavior when they are in the yard alone, but if you hear/see any of your dogs posturing as alpha you need to get in there and remind them all that it's you. Correct the dogs, make them sit. Dogs can't be aggressive while they are sitting. With all of this it just takes a bit of dedication and a lot of consistency. Try to relate all your dogs behavior to how a pack would operate. With you of course being the alpha. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281226 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Light in the night sky.
It came from outer space: Fireball streaks across Canadian Prairie, crashes http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2008/11/it-came-from-ou.html *Witnesses: Large meteor streaks across Canada sky* http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081123/D94KJ41G0.html I look forward to hearing more about what cause this, how big it was, where it ended up. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281231 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
Re: startrek
whats GREAT is that these two are in one room, in one place in GA. and we are all watching it happen. -- tony Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. -- siddhartha gautama On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Ian Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it sad that this side thread had made me smile with every post? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281232 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
Re: startrek
Wow. Y'all have officially out-geeked my brother, who I thought was the biggest trek-nerd on the planet. I bow to your nerd-ness... (This coming from someone who can recite most Marvel Comics origin stories from memory) David Churvis wrote: But I go to Star Trek conventions! That's getting out! -Original Message- From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:07 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: startrek David, son, you *really* need to get out more... Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281233 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: Light in the night sky.
I saw that on Friday..this stuff fascinates me. There are some pretty cool videos that people have captured of fireballs...usually by people who were filming high school football games on Friday nights. One of the better documented fireballs was the Peekskill Meteorite: http://aquarid.physics.uwo.ca/~pbrown/Videos/peekskill.htm Cool stuff. On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Ian Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It came from outer space: Fireball streaks across Canadian Prairie, crashes http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2008/11/it-came-from-ou.html *Witnesses: Large meteor streaks across Canada sky* http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081123/D94KJ41G0.html I look forward to hearing more about what cause this, how big it was, where it ended up. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281234 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
Re: Light in the night sky.
Ya, that was a couple of days ago. Could it perhaps be this? http://www.sciam.com/blog/60-second-science/post.cfm?id=new-space-litter-astronaut-loses-to-2008-11-19 Side note... sciam.com uses CF :) ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281235 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: startrek
Scott Stewart wrote: (This coming from someone who can recite most Marvel Comics origin stories from memory) Pop Quiz! 3D Man: ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281236 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
RE: startrek
David, son, you *really* need to get out more... Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement -Original Message- From: David Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 10:04 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: startrek Judging by the content of your post, I think you must have looked at a Kelvan ambassador without the proper mental conditioning and sensory garment. You're gibbering. David Churvis -Original Message- From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 9:56 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: startrek David, I keep telling you that it's Dr. Spock, not Mister Spock, and that it goes To boldly go where no person has before now. And the Asian guy's name is Mr. Solo (I think his first name is Han). What, do I have to do a Vulcan Tuna Melt with you to get this across? Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement -Original Message- From: David Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 5:08 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: startrek I am a die-hard Trekker and trivia buff, which has always made me a nerd, and about the only thing I have to cling to is making fun of Star Wars fans. Meanwhile, Adam couldn't care less about any of it, so he makes fun of me and my love of Trek every chance he gets. David Churvis -Original Message- From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 4:52 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: startrek David Churvis wrote: At least I'm not a Star Wars fanboy. David -Original Message- From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] .and I'm gonna need a series of very strong drinks to get me through the *BITCHING YOU'RE GOING TO DO ABOUT THIS MOVIE!!!* I sense some amusing, to us outside spectators, history here. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281225 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: startrek
I can't quote exact names but the story involves one man who was blasted by radiation and embedded as green and red images on a pair of glasses. Another man puts the glasses on and when the images come into focus 3-D Man is alive. 3-D Man is three times stronger, faster, more agile and more intelligent that normal. Circa 1966 - 1967, Jack Kirby creation... Ian Skinner wrote: Scott Stewart wrote: (This coming from someone who can recite most Marvel Comics origin stories from memory) Pop Quiz! 3D Man: ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281237 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: Screw Citibank
Did they randomly jack up yer rates too? Jacob wrote: I had enough with these morons. I was hoping they would fail. 15 year customer and I get slapped in the face with their latest tactic. I am done with them... not married to a credit card company. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281239 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
RE: startrek
I can actually out-Trek David, believe it or not. I have a friend named Wayne Hamberg who was one year ahead of me at Marine Military Academy and graduated in '78. His mother divorced her then-husband (my old Geometry and Trig teacher) and remarried Gene Roddenberry's brother. (Majel Barrett was at the wedding and was as spritely as her Troy's Mother character in TNG.) So I'm not only a couple degrees of separation from Obi-Wan Kenobi, I'm only a couple of degrees separated from the Father of Star Trek! Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:37 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: startrek Wow. Y'all have officially out-geeked my brother, who I thought was the biggest trek-nerd on the planet. I bow to your nerd-ness... (This coming from someone who can recite most Marvel Comics origin stories from memory) David Churvis wrote: But I go to Star Trek conventions! That's getting out! -Original Message- From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:07 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: startrek David, son, you *really* need to get out more... Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281241 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
RE: startrek
And yet you still misspelled Troi. Hmm... David Churvis -Original Message- From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:56 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: startrek I can actually out-Trek David, believe it or not. I have a friend named Wayne Hamberg who was one year ahead of me at Marine Military Academy and graduated in '78. His mother divorced her then-husband (my old Geometry and Trig teacher) and remarried Gene Roddenberry's brother. (Majel Barrett was at the wedding and was as spritely as her Troy's Mother character in TNG.) So I'm not only a couple degrees of separation from Obi-Wan Kenobi, I'm only a couple of degrees separated from the Father of Star Trek! Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:37 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: startrek Wow. Y'all have officially out-geeked my brother, who I thought was the biggest trek-nerd on the planet. I bow to your nerd-ness... (This coming from someone who can recite most Marvel Comics origin stories from memory) David Churvis wrote: But I go to Star Trek conventions! That's getting out! -Original Message- From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:07 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: startrek David, son, you *really* need to get out more... Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281243 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
RE: Screw Citibank
I get in the mail a letter saying that my rate will go from 8.99 to 16.99 on December 1. When I asked why a good customer has to pay 16.99% when a new customer can sign up for the same card for 7.99% on their website, I got silence. When they said because of the global economic environment, I asked then how come BofA has lowered my rate over the last six months and increased my credit limit by almost 10% over the same time frame. He said, Well, that is Bank of America, not Citibank I ask, Well, aren't they part of the ' global economic environment'. Again... silence. So I opt-out. Then, he asked is there anything Citibank could do to make you rethink your decision? I laughed. Called BofA this morning, my other credit card, and I can transfer the balance ($3200), to the BofA card for 6.99% for the life of the balance. Customer disloyalty at its best. -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 8:54 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Screw Citibank Did they randomly jack up yer rates too? Jacob wrote: I had enough with these morons. I was hoping they would fail. 15 year customer and I get slapped in the face with their latest tactic. I am done with them... not married to a credit card company. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281244 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: Screw Citibank
Adam wrote: I'm asking because I haven't been keeping up with the CitiBank situation, but have they done anything that would affect customers who pay off 100% of their balance every month? yup ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281245 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
RE: startrek
Woo! +10 Direct damage! Sorry wrong geek club. Rick -Original Message- From: David Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:00 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: startrek And yet you still misspelled Troi. Hmm... David Churvis -Original Message- From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:56 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: startrek I can actually out-Trek David, believe it or not. I have a friend named Wayne Hamberg who was one year ahead of me at Marine Military Academy and graduated in '78. His mother divorced her then-husband (my old Geometry and Trig teacher) and remarried Gene Roddenberry's brother. (Majel Barrett was at the wedding and was as spritely as her Troy's Mother character in TNG.) So I'm not only a couple degrees of separation from Obi-Wan Kenobi, I'm only a couple of degrees separated from the Father of Star Trek! Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:37 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: startrek Wow. Y'all have officially out-geeked my brother, who I thought was the biggest trek-nerd on the planet. I bow to your nerd-ness... (This coming from someone who can recite most Marvel Comics origin stories from memory) David Churvis wrote: But I go to Star Trek conventions! That's getting out! -Original Message- From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:07 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: startrek David, son, you *really* need to get out more... Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281246 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
Re: Screw Citibank
Jake wrote: So I opt-out. Then, he asked is there anything Citibank could do to make you rethink your decision? I laughed. No. It's not bad leadership. It's just the economy. Which is why you should be patriotic and pay 16.99% as well be forced to buy equity in their company. These execs are doing just fine and the LAST thing we want to do is cancel their bonuses. They might leave!! OMG! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281247 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
RE: Screw Citibank
Yes.. loose lending practices which gave loans those that could not afford homes mortgages. Foreclosures occur and your house value goes down :) -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 9:07 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Screw Citibank Adam wrote: I'm asking because I haven't been keeping up with the CitiBank situation, but have they done anything that would affect customers who pay off 100% of their balance every month? yup ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281248 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Screw Citibank
I had enough with these morons. I was hoping they would fail. 15 year customer and I get slapped in the face with their latest tactic. I am done with them... not married to a credit card company. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281238 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: Screw Citibank
I've not heard of this intercourse with a financial institution theory for bright lights in the night sky. Your theory intrigues me, I would like to subscribe to your newsletter. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281250 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: Screw Citibank
Wow... that's nuts. They grabbin' as much tax dollars (bailout) as they can and gouge their clients too?? Yves Arsenault Love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into a friend. --Martin Luther King, Jr. On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I get in the mail a letter saying that my rate will go from 8.99 to 16.99 on December 1. When I asked why a good customer has to pay 16.99% when a new customer can sign up for the same card for 7.99% on their website, I got silence. When they said because of the global economic environment, I asked then how come BofA has lowered my rate over the last six months and increased my credit limit by almost 10% over the same time frame. He said, Well, that is Bank of America, not Citibank I ask, Well, aren't they part of the ' global economic environment'. Again... silence. So I opt-out. Then, he asked is there anything Citibank could do to make you rethink your decision? I laughed. Called BofA this morning, my other credit card, and I can transfer the balance ($3200), to the BofA card for 6.99% for the life of the balance. Customer disloyalty at its best. -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 8:54 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Screw Citibank Did they randomly jack up yer rates too? Jacob wrote: I had enough with these morons. I was hoping they would fail. 15 year customer and I get slapped in the face with their latest tactic. I am done with them... not married to a credit card company. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281249 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
RE: Screw Citibank
I could buy all the stock, hold and shareholders meeting, and fire the CEO. Then turn around and sale the stocks for a penny a share :D -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 9:10 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Screw Citibank Jake wrote: So I opt-out. Then, he asked is there anything Citibank could do to make you rethink your decision? I laughed. No. It's not bad leadership. It's just the economy. Which is why you should be patriotic and pay 16.99% as well be forced to buy equity in their company. These execs are doing just fine and the LAST thing we want to do is cancel their bonuses. They might leave!! OMG! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281251 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
RE: Screw Citibank
Yea.. get screwed at both ends. -Original Message- From: Yves Arsenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 9:12 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Screw Citibank Wow... that's nuts. They grabbin' as much tax dollars (bailout) as they can and gouge their clients too?? Yves Arsenault Love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into a friend. --Martin Luther King, Jr. On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I get in the mail a letter saying that my rate will go from 8.99 to 16.99 on December 1. When I asked why a good customer has to pay 16.99% when a new customer can sign up for the same card for 7.99% on their website, I got silence. When they said because of the global economic environment, I asked then how come BofA has lowered my rate over the last six months and increased my credit limit by almost 10% over the same time frame. He said, Well, that is Bank of America, not Citibank I ask, Well, aren't they part of the ' global economic environment'. Again... silence. So I opt-out. Then, he asked is there anything Citibank could do to make you rethink your decision? I laughed. Called BofA this morning, my other credit card, and I can transfer the balance ($3200), to the BofA card for 6.99% for the life of the balance. Customer disloyalty at its best. -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 8:54 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Screw Citibank Did they randomly jack up yer rates too? Jacob wrote: I had enough with these morons. I was hoping they would fail. 15 year customer and I get slapped in the face with their latest tactic. I am done with them... not married to a credit card company. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281252 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
Re: startrek
Scott Stewart wrote: I can't quote exact names but the story involves one man who was blasted by radiation and embedded as green and red images on a pair of glasses. Another man puts the glasses on and when the images come into focus 3-D Man is alive. 3-D Man is three times stronger, faster, more agile and more intelligent that normal. Circa 1966 - 1967, Jack Kirby creation... Ian Skinner wrote: 3D Man: I'll give that an 85. http://www.marvel.com/universe/3-D_Man The 3-D Man was a 1950's hero who came about through the unique merger of two brothers, Hal and Chuck Chandler. Chuck was a test pilot who was abducted by alien Skrulls http://www.marvel.com/universe/Skrulls during an important test flight. Earth was seen as a strategic location in the ongoing conflict between the alien Kree http://www.marvel.com/universe/Kree and Skrull Empires http://www.marvel.com/universe/Skrull_Empires, so the Skrulls were seeking information on Earth's space program and had captured Chuck to interrogate him. Chuck resisted and escaped, accidentally causing the explosion of the Skrull spacecraft in the process. While his brother Hal watched, the radiation from the explosion seemingly disintegrated Chuck, who disappeared in a burst of light. Hal later discovered, however, that the light burst had imprinted an image of Chuck on each lens of Hal's eyeglasses. Through concentration, Hal could merge the images and cause Chuck to reappear as a three-dimensional man. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281253 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Citigroup Bailout
So isn't Abu Dhabi the largest Citigroup shareholder? Just wondering. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087sid=avb.Jr9Shn5Irefer=home Also, if anyone cares, Phase 2 of the economic crisis is coming. Here's why: CDOs, CDSs. Here's what happened (buckle up): 1.) Loan originators lent money to people (car, home, cc, et al) 2.) LOs sold the loans to banks 3.) Banks broke them up into securities and sold the securities Credit rating agencies, paid by the banks, rated those securities AAA (solid) to BBB (junk) Every month when the consumers make payments including interest, that money flows into the securities. If a consumer doesn't pay, then the BBB security stops paying first. In exchange for that risk the BBB buyer gets a higher interest rate than the AAA buyer. So far so good. But nothing is stopping, say, Citigroup from buying a bunch of BBB bonds and making their own AAA to BBB product. You as the buyer of the AAA, if you only looked at the rating, would have no idea that it's REALLY a AAA based on pile of BBBs. To you all AAA look alike; but they're not. That's problem #1. Now let's say a hedge fund buys a bunch AAA bonds from Citigroup (which are based on BBBs) and decides to insure their purchase through a swap with AIG. If AIG isn't smart enough to realize that they're insuring a bunch of AAA that are really based on BBB ... well they've got a lot of exposure. That's problem #2. When the credit rating agencies started wising up to how much exposure AIG had they downgraded THEIR credit rating. That triggered a collateral call for AIG (to prove it could pay it's swaps) and it went bankrupt. So the government steps in and helps them make their collateral call as well as a bunch of other folk that had no clue what they were doing. Ok, so how does the government clean things up? Since insurance on a bond promises to pay the bond if there's trouble (just like your car insurance promises to pay for your car if there's an accident), the gov't could just find all of swaps that AIG holds, buy the underlying bonds, and cancel the swaps right? In other words, your insurance company could buy your car from you and cancel your insurance. Wrong. See the beauty of swaps is that you can buy insurance on a bond even if you don't own the bond! In other words, Erika can buy insurance on tBone's car just because she thinks he drives like a maniac and is bound to crash it up. If he does, Erika's swap says she's owed the value to repair or replace the car. And so does tBone's. And that's problem #3. So how do you clean THAT up? No clue. And in the meantime the crisis is spreading to every corner of the globe. Get ready for phase 2. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281240 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
RE: Screw Citibank
I'm asking because I haven't been keeping up with the CitiBank situation, but have they done anything that would affect customers who pay off 100% of their balance every month? Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement -Original Message- From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:50 AM To: cf-community Subject: Screw Citibank I had enough with these morons. I was hoping they would fail. 15 year customer and I get slapped in the face with their latest tactic. I am done with them... not married to a credit card company. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281242 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
RE: Screw Citibank
I pay off 100% of my balance each month, so could you be specific on what they've done that would affect me directly? Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 12:07 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Screw Citibank Adam wrote: I'm asking because I haven't been keeping up with the CitiBank situation, but have they done anything that would affect customers who pay off 100% of their balance every month? yup ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281257 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
Re: Screw Citibank
If you don't pay 16.99% the terrorists win. -Original message- From: Gruss Gott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 12:10:06 -0500 To: cf-community cf-community@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Screw Citibank Jake wrote: So I opt-out. Then, he asked is there anything Citibank could do to make you rethink your decision? I laughed. No. It's not bad leadership. It's just the economy. Which is why you should be patriotic and pay 16.99% as well be forced to buy equity in their company. These execs are doing just fine and the LAST thing we want to do is cancel their bonuses. They might leave!! OMG! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281254 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: startrek
What's the story on Sir Alec Guinness (Obi Wan) Adam Churvis wrote: I can actually out-Trek David, believe it or not. I have a friend named Wayne Hamberg who was one year ahead of me at Marine Military Academy and graduated in '78. His mother divorced her then-husband (my old Geometry and Trig teacher) and remarried Gene Roddenberry's brother. (Majel Barrett was at the wedding and was as spritely as her Troy's Mother character in TNG.) So I'm not only a couple degrees of separation from Obi-Wan Kenobi, I'm only a couple of degrees separated from the Father of Star Trek! Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:37 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: startrek Wow. Y'all have officially out-geeked my brother, who I thought was the biggest trek-nerd on the planet. I bow to your nerd-ness... (This coming from someone who can recite most Marvel Comics origin stories from memory) David Churvis wrote: But I go to Star Trek conventions! That's getting out! -Original Message- From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:07 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: startrek David, son, you *really* need to get out more... Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281258 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: Screw Citibank
I've not heard of this intercourse with a financial institution theory for bright lights in the night sky. Your theory intrigues me, I would like to subscribe to your newsletter. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281255 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: startrek
Scott Stewart wrote: I can't quote exact names but the story involves one man who was blasted by radiation and embedded as green and red images on a pair of glasses. Another man puts the glasses on and when the images come into focus 3-D Man is alive. 3-D Man is three times stronger, faster, more agile and more intelligent that normal. Circa 1966 - 1967, Jack Kirby creation... Ian Skinner wrote: Pop Quiz! 3D Man: I'll give that an 85. http://www.marvel.com/universe/3-D_Man The 3-D Man was a 1950's hero who came about through the unique merger of two brothers, Hal and Chuck Chandler. Chuck was a test pilot who was abducted by alien Skrulls http://www.marvel.com/universe/Skrulls during an important test flight. Earth was seen as a strategic location in the ongoing conflict between the alien Kree http://www.marvel.com/universe/Kree and Skrull Empires http://www.marvel.com/universe/Skrull_Empires, so the Skrulls were seeking information on Earth's space program and had captured Chuck to interrogate him. Chuck resisted and escaped, accidentally causing the explosion of the Skrull spacecraft in the process. While his brother Hal watched, the radiation from the explosion seemingly disintegrated Chuck, who disappeared in a burst of light. Hal later discovered, however, that the light burst had imprinted an image of Chuck on each lens of Hal's eyeglasses. Through concentration, Hal could merge the images and cause Chuck to reappear as a three-dimensional man. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281256 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
Citibank bailout
So we're about to go another 306 Trillion in debt to bail out Citibank... 1) What does this mean for card holders? 2) What does it mean if Citibank goes under.. discuss -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer Office of Research Information Systems Research amp; Economic Development University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Phone:(919)843-2408 Fax: (919)962-3600 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281259 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
RE: Screw Citibank
I'm not sure but I heard Citibank was instituting Primae Noctis ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281260 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: Screw Citibank
Jake wrote: Yes.. loose lending practices which gave loans those that could not afford homes mortgages. Loose lending was part of the problem but it's such a small part. In another thread I detailed 3 core problems, but one I didn't mention is that this: If you read the other thread you know about packaging up loans into CDO bonds and then packaging up those bonds into their own CDO2. I also talked about how you can insure those bonds with swaps, even is you don't own the swap. Thus 10,000 people can insure the same swap and 100% of the time I'm guessing the insurer didn't ask. What I didn't mention is that a swap looks just like a loan without the underlying asset. Each month a loan pays out a payment to the holder and each month a swap pays out a premium to the holder. So guess what else is out there? CDOs of swaps for which there is no underlying asset. In other words you can buy a bond based on swap, not owned by the swapper, which is againt bond based on bond which is a slice of another bond that is based on a loan. Oh, and you can get big fat loan with only 1.5% down to buy those bonds. Which is what, say, Lehman did. It's pretty simple, huh? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281261 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
RE: Citibank bailout
This morning.. I cut my ties with Citibank. I opt-out and transferred the balance to BofA, at a lower rate. Once the transfer hits, I will cancel the credit card. -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 8:55 AM To: cf-community Subject: Citibank bailout So we're about to go another 306 Trillion in debt to bail out Citibank... 1) What does this mean for card holders? 2) What does it mean if Citibank goes under.. discuss -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer Office of Research Information Systems Research amp; Economic Development University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Phone:(919)843-2408 Fax: (919)962-3600 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281262 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: Citibank bailout
You didn't read the fine print. There is now a 1 million dollar processing fee to close a credit card. Fortunately, they will loan you the money at just 21.99%. LOL. (obviously just kidding. I hope) On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This morning.. I cut my ties with Citibank. I opt-out and transferred the balance to BofA, at a lower rate. Once the transfer hits, I will cancel the credit card. -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 8:55 AM To: cf-community Subject: Citibank bailout So we're about to go another 306 Trillion in debt to bail out Citibank... 1) What does this mean for card holders? 2) What does it mean if Citibank goes under.. discuss -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer Office of Research Information Systems Research amp; Economic Development University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Phone:(919)843-2408 Fax: (919)962-3600 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281263 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: Citibank bailout
You may already know this, but leaving that account open and simply cutting up the card is generally regarded as the best way to deal with closing a CC account (with no annual fee). That way the available credit will remain on your credit report and help your score. Eventually Citi will close it automatically, but in the meantime they will be helping your score and you will not be giving them a dime. -Cameron On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This morning.. I cut my ties with Citibank. I opt-out and transferred the balance to BofA, at a lower rate. Once the transfer hits, I will cancel the credit card. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281264 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: Ship Of Fools
No joke. IRAQ'S NEW DAWN VICTORY ACROSS THE BOARD MICHAEL YON THE Iraq War is over... http://www.nypost.com/seven/11242008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/iraqs_new_dawn_140418.htm?page=0 On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Michael Grant [Modus IS] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't the Iraq war just about finished? Wow that's a great achievement that will do Bush well in the history books. You're joking right? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281265 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
RE: startrek
I've been known to engage in a little DD action every now and then. I just don't have the attention span to run a campaign, so it's hard to find people to play with. Plus I haven't played since 2nd Edition, and apparently they've fubar'd everything in 4th now, so I don't even bother. David Churvis -Original Message- From: Rick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 12:06 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: startrek Woo! +10 Direct damage! Sorry wrong geek club. Rick -Original Message- From: David Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:00 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: startrek And yet you still misspelled Troi. Hmm... David Churvis -Original Message- From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:56 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: startrek I can actually out-Trek David, believe it or not. I have a friend named Wayne Hamberg who was one year ahead of me at Marine Military Academy and graduated in '78. His mother divorced her then-husband (my old Geometry and Trig teacher) and remarried Gene Roddenberry's brother. (Majel Barrett was at the wedding and was as spritely as her Troy's Mother character in TNG.) So I'm not only a couple degrees of separation from Obi-Wan Kenobi, I'm only a couple of degrees separated from the Father of Star Trek! Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:37 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: startrek Wow. Y'all have officially out-geeked my brother, who I thought was the biggest trek-nerd on the planet. I bow to your nerd-ness... (This coming from someone who can recite most Marvel Comics origin stories from memory) David Churvis wrote: But I go to Star Trek conventions! That's getting out! -Original Message- From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:07 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: startrek David, son, you *really* need to get out more... Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281266 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
Re: Citibank bailout
or leave just enough there to force them to send a bill every month :) Cameron Childress wrote: You may already know this, but leaving that account open and simply cutting up the card is generally regarded as the best way to deal with closing a CC account (with no annual fee). That way the available credit will remain on your credit report and help your score. Eventually Citi will close it automatically, but in the meantime they will be helping your score and you will not be giving them a dime. -Cameron On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This morning.. I cut my ties with Citibank. I opt-out and transferred the balance to BofA, at a lower rate. Once the transfer hits, I will cancel the credit card. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281267 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
RE: startrek
My father was good friends with Rod Serling when they worked together in television back in Cincinnati. Rod Serling co-wrote the screenplay to Planet of the Apes along with Michael Wilson, which was adapted from the novel by Pierre Boulle. Pierre Boulle also wrote the novel that was adapted to become Bridge on the River Kwai, and co-wrote the screenplay with Michael Wilson. Bridge on the River Kwai starred Alec Guinness. Alec Guinness was Obi-Wan Kenobi in Star Wars. (It is entirely coincidence that my younger son's name is Michael Wilson Churvis). Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 12:04 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: startrek What's the story on Sir Alec Guinness (Obi Wan) Adam Churvis wrote: I can actually out-Trek David, believe it or not. I have a friend named Wayne Hamberg who was one year ahead of me at Marine Military Academy and graduated in '78. His mother divorced her then- husband (my old Geometry and Trig teacher) and remarried Gene Roddenberry's brother. (Majel Barrett was at the wedding and was as spritely as her Troy's Mother character in TNG.) So I'm not only a couple degrees of separation from Obi-Wan Kenobi, I'm only a couple of degrees separated from the Father of Star Trek! Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:37 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: startrek Wow. Y'all have officially out-geeked my brother, who I thought was the biggest trek-nerd on the planet. I bow to your nerd-ness... (This coming from someone who can recite most Marvel Comics origin stories from memory) David Churvis wrote: But I go to Star Trek conventions! That's getting out! -Original Message- From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:07 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: startrek David, son, you *really* need to get out more... Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281268 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
Re: Ship Of Fools
No joke. IRAQ'S NEW DAWN VICTORY ACROSS THE BOARD MICHAEL YON THE Iraq War is over... I trust your rose colored glasses serve you well in these tough times. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281269 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
RE: startrek
Ah 2nd edition. Every play with 1d100? If you don't have a flat surface you're never going to finish your roll. -Original message- From: David Churvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 13:23:25 -0500 To: cf-community cf-community@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: startrek I've been known to engage in a little DD action every now and then. I just don't have the attention span to run a campaign, so it's hard to find people to play with. Plus I haven't played since 2nd Edition, and apparently they've fubar'd everything in 4th now, so I don't even bother. David Churvis -Original Message- From: Rick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 12:06 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: startrek Woo! +10 Direct damage! Sorry wrong geek club. Rick -Original Message- From: David Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:00 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: startrek And yet you still misspelled Troi. Hmm... David Churvis -Original Message- From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:56 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: startrek I can actually out-Trek David, believe it or not. I have a friend named Wayne Hamberg who was one year ahead of me at Marine Military Academy and graduated in '78. His mother divorced her then-husband (my old Geometry and Trig teacher) and remarried Gene Roddenberry's brother. (Majel Barrett was at the wedding and was as spritely as her Troy's Mother character in TNG.) So I'm not only a couple degrees of separation from Obi-Wan Kenobi, I'm only a couple of degrees separated from the Father of Star Trek! Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:37 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: startrek Wow. Y'all have officially out-geeked my brother, who I thought was the biggest trek-nerd on the planet. I bow to your nerd-ness... (This coming from someone who can recite most Marvel Comics origin stories from memory) David Churvis wrote: But I go to Star Trek conventions! That's getting out! -Original Message- From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:07 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: startrek David, son, you *really* need to get out more... Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281270 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
Re: Ship Of Fools
IRAQ'S NEW DAWN VICTORY ACROSS THE BOARD MICHAEL YON THE Iraq War is over... I trust your rose colored glasses serve you well in these tough times. I'll hold judgment until we hear about this from Bruce... actually, his latest post included this following text: I am not sure what we can do for these folks really. The US is no longer paying for projects as the Iraqi governement has started to support it's own country. I do suspect though that it has been this way for these folks for a very long time. H ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281271 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: startrek
a. Adam Churvis wrote: My father was good friends with Rod Serling when they worked together in television back in Cincinnati. Rod Serling co-wrote the screenplay to Planet of the Apes along with Michael Wilson, which was adapted from the novel by Pierre Boulle. Pierre Boulle also wrote the novel that was adapted to become Bridge on the River Kwai, and co-wrote the screenplay with Michael Wilson. Bridge on the River Kwai starred Alec Guinness. Alec Guinness was Obi-Wan Kenobi in Star Wars. (It is entirely coincidence that my younger son's name is Michael Wilson Churvis). Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 12:04 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: startrek What's the story on Sir Alec Guinness (Obi Wan) Adam Churvis wrote: I can actually out-Trek David, believe it or not. I have a friend named Wayne Hamberg who was one year ahead of me at Marine Military Academy and graduated in '78. His mother divorced her then- husband (my old Geometry and Trig teacher) and remarried Gene Roddenberry's brother. (Majel Barrett was at the wedding and was as spritely as her Troy's Mother character in TNG.) So I'm not only a couple degrees of separation from Obi-Wan Kenobi, I'm only a couple of degrees separated from the Father of Star Trek! Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:37 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: startrek Wow. Y'all have officially out-geeked my brother, who I thought was the biggest trek-nerd on the planet. I bow to your nerd-ness... (This coming from someone who can recite most Marvel Comics origin stories from memory) David Churvis wrote: But I go to Star Trek conventions! That's getting out! -Original Message- From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:07 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: startrek David, son, you *really* need to get out more... Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281272 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: Ship Of Fools
Michael wrote: I trust your rose colored glasses serve you well in these tough times. He had to chuck those years ago when reality disintegrated the lenses. Now it's really more of full rose colored body sock, and then on top is a tin foil lined rose helmut type of setup with a full lexan 2 inch blast shield. And then, of course, living in a rose colored bomb shelter encased in 10 feet of rose colored concrete with only Rush for word from the outside world. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281273 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
Re: Ship Of Fools
So THAT'S where Cheney has been On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Gruss Gott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And then, of course, living in a rose colored bomb shelter encased in 10 feet of rose colored concrete with only Rush for word from the outside world. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281274 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: Ship Of Fools
Oh snap. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281275 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: Ship Of Fools
cHat wrote: I'll hold judgment until we hear about this from Bruce Why? Reality, facts, and logic have never been part of Bush's decision-making process in going in or conducting the war and they're not going to part of us leaving. So what you really have to do code up a patriotic word sentence generator. You know, include things like: * victory * honor * win, won, winning * pride * American flag pin * Troops It'll generate something like this: With honor and victory the US won with pride and victory and American flag pin. That'll be the spin (no matter who's president) and then Iraq will become our enemy within 5 years. Pretty simple really. When you think about it. Sooo ... ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281276 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
Re: Ship Of Fools
There goes all hope for an intelligent discussion, you fit right in here. On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Michael Grant [Modus I.S.] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No joke. IRAQ'S NEW DAWN VICTORY ACROSS THE BOARD MICHAEL YON THE Iraq War is over... I trust your rose colored glasses serve you well in these tough times. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281277 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
Re: Ship Of Fools
hitting the bottle kinda early today? On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Gruss Gott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael wrote: I trust your rose colored glasses serve you well in these tough times. He had to chuck those years ago when reality disintegrated the lenses. Now it's really more of full rose colored body sock, and then on top is a tin foil lined rose helmut type of setup with a full lexan 2 inch blast shield. And then, of course, living in a rose colored bomb shelter encased in 10 feet of rose colored concrete with only Rush for word from the outside world. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281278 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: Ship Of Fools
Sam wrote: hitting the bottle kinda early today? Just staying up late. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281279 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Time Magazine's Person of the Year ...
How did I miss this?! Where was the Party? Why didn't they send a limo! cries Time Magazine's Person of the Year in 2006 was ME! sighs I need to pull my head out sometimes... http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1569514,00.html ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281280 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: Ship Of Fools
Double plus good. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281281 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
Re: Ship Of Fools
JJ wrote: So THAT'S where Cheney has been Dude - all kidding aside - I've SEEN Cheney's bomb shelter. Well, the island and building on the island where it is: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=qhl=engeocode=q=Spieden+Island+washingtonsll=37.0625,-95.677068sspn=33.626896,60.820313ie=UTF8ll=48.644366,-123.134508spn=0.027391,0.059395t=hz=14g=Spieden+Island+washingtoniwloc=addr That was his home after 9/11 ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281282 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: Ship Of Fools
When you use words like victory in the same sentence as Iraq war all hope for intelligent conversation was already lost. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281283 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
RE: startrek
Man, I hate d100s. The only two I've ever found that were worth anything were a weird model that was shaped like a barrel, meant to be rolled on one axis; the faces were bigger than ordinary so it was easier to stop, and another one that was a foot in diameter. It was made out of cardboard and you'd roll it on the floor. We always used to just roll 5d20 + 1d6 and subtract 5. If the d6 showed a 6, we'd reroll. Mathematically it's identical, but it's much less of a headache. Do they still use d100s, or were they phased out at some point? David Churvis -Original Message- From: Michael Grant [Modus I.S.] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 1:28 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: startrek Ah 2nd edition. Every play with 1d100? If you don't have a flat surface you're never going to finish your roll. -Original message- From: David Churvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 13:23:25 -0500 To: cf-community cf-community@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: startrek I've been known to engage in a little DD action every now and then. I just don't have the attention span to run a campaign, so it's hard to find people to play with. Plus I haven't played since 2nd Edition, and apparently they've fubar'd everything in 4th now, so I don't even bother. David Churvis -Original Message- From: Rick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 12:06 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: startrek Woo! +10 Direct damage! Sorry wrong geek club. Rick -Original Message- From: David Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:00 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: startrek And yet you still misspelled Troi. Hmm... David Churvis -Original Message- From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:56 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: startrek I can actually out-Trek David, believe it or not. I have a friend named Wayne Hamberg who was one year ahead of me at Marine Military Academy and graduated in '78. His mother divorced her then-husband (my old Geometry and Trig teacher) and remarried Gene Roddenberry's brother. (Majel Barrett was at the wedding and was as spritely as her Troy's Mother character in TNG.) So I'm not only a couple degrees of separation from Obi-Wan Kenobi, I'm only a couple of degrees separated from the Father of Star Trek! Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:37 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: startrek Wow. Y'all have officially out-geeked my brother, who I thought was the biggest trek-nerd on the planet. I bow to your nerd-ness... (This coming from someone who can recite most Marvel Comics origin stories from memory) David Churvis wrote: But I go to Star Trek conventions! That's getting out! -Original Message- From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:07 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: startrek David, son, you *really* need to get out more... Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281284 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
Re: Citibank bailout
Cam wrote: You may already know this, but leaving that account open and simply cutting up the card is generally regarded as the best way to deal with closing a CC account (with no annual fee). That way the available credit will remain on your credit report and help your score. Eventually Citi will close it automatically, but in the meantime they will be helping your score and you will not be giving them a dime. Doesn't number of open accounts ding your credit? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281286 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
RE: Ship Of Fools
You've spent how much time studying counter-insurgency, and broad spectrum, low intensity conflict? How much time on the ground in the Arab street? I'm just wondering what makes you think you're qualified to make such an assessment? -Original Message- From: Michael Grant [Modus I.S.] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 1:54 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Ship Of Fools When you use words like victory in the same sentence as Iraq war all hope for intelligent conversation was already lost. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281287 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
