RE: Justification for murder

2015-04-20 Thread Eric Roberts

Heheh...yeah...I never understood that indentation style.  The first one
makes more sense to me.  It's much more readable.  I definitely sympathize
with the characters LOL.

Eric

-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:mdino...@houseoffusion.com] 
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 12:41 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Justification for murder


I read a number of great web comics and once in a while something stands out
to be shared. This recent page from Sandra and Woo is one of them. I might
even be so bold as to say that anyone who does not 'get it' is not a real
programmer. Of course, others would disagree and a fight would ensue, which
fits the context perfectly. :)

Sandra and Woo  [0674] There Are 10 Types Of Programmers | The comedy
webcomic

http://www.sandraandwoo.com/2015/04/13/0674-there-are-10-types-of-programmer
s/




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RE: Eclipse not respnding

2015-04-15 Thread Eric Roberts

You can go into the config.ini and increase the memory limits, that usually
helps, but I have been having issues with Luna (not sure what version you
are on) where large pages will be real slow...like when I am typing, I can
type a whole line before the 1st three letters appear on the line and also
having the app freeze up when trying to save.  Sublime Text is pretty
awesome for a lightweight editor.

Eric

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Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 10:28 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Eclipse not respnding


I'm going nuts with eclipse not responding every couple of seconds.  I know
I've seen some memory tweaks and stuff before, suggestions?




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RE: I'm demoing my final project tomorrow night

2015-03-26 Thread Eric Roberts

Break a leg!!

-Original Message-
From: Judith Dinowitz [mailto:jdino...@houseoffusion.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 10:55 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: I'm demoing my final project tomorrow night


If anyone's in Manhattan tomorrow night (Wednesday) and wants to stop by,
please come to the General Assembly Labs Showcase, where I'll be showing off
the project that I and my team developed as part of the GA Labs Hackathon.
I'm on at 7:00 pm. (The event runs from 6:25 through 8:30 pm.)

https://
generalassemb.ly/education/ga-labs-showcase-part-one/new-york-city/11750

Please come if you can, and please RSVP on GA's siite.

All the best,

Judith




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RE: software to emulate mobile device on PC for development

2015-03-20 Thread Eric Roberts

Yeah...it's pretty cool.  I am learning mobile development and have been
using Chrome.  It pretty much does for Android what Safari does on Macs for
iOS.

Eric

-Original Message-
From: J.J. Merrick [mailto:j...@panos.cc] 
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 2:40 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: software to emulate mobile device on PC for development


Wow... I've been doing mobile development for years and I NEVER knew that
existed... I always just made the screen smaller or used the iPhone emulator
in xcode. I feel like my whole life was a lie now. WOW!

On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Mark Spence markpence...@gmail.com
wrote:


 Exactly what I was looking for.  Thank you very much.

 On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 10:41 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote:

 
  In chrome developer tools there's an emulator built right in.  It's 
  under more tools.  Looks like a phone in the upper left corner of 
  the developer tools frame.
 
  On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 12:38 AM, Mark Spence 
  markpence...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  
   I want to develop a mobile version of a site.  Is there software 
   that
  will
   let me emulate how it will look on various mobile devices without
 having
   the device itself?
  
   This is my first foray in mobile development.
  
   Thanks.
  
  
  
 
 

 



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RE: Cutting the Cable

2015-03-02 Thread Eric Roberts

1500.00?  How much do you pay for cable and internet?  You can save some
money, but 1500 a month?Up until recently, I didn't have cable.  I just
watched Netflix and Amazon Prime via my Roku device on my TV and the online
apps on my computer and tablet/phone.  You can also stream video via playon
with the Roku device and your computer...so if you have DVD's or other
videos on your computer, you can view them via the playon app on the Roku
device.  I have used it a little bit and performance seemed ok.  You are
installing the playon server software on your computer and the Roku app is
the client, so the network is all internal.  Hulu is another option.  I
never really got into the Hulu stuff as much as I did Netflix and
Amazon...but some people swear by it.  I love my Roku device.  Get the $99
one...it has more features and you can even play games on it.  It only works
with HDMI capable TV's.

Unfortunately, the place I am in the middle of moving to only has Comcast
(grr)...so I have cable again...I had to drop my ATT internet account.  I
figured if I was going to sell my soul...I may as well go whole hog LOL.

Eric

-Original Message-
From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:sor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 12:44 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Cutting the Cable


Howdy all,
I know some of you on this list have made the switch from cable/satellite
television to just online, and I am getting ready to leave cable except for
internet. I discovered that I can save over $1,500.00 a month. My question
is what device to get? I have a PS3 for Netflix and Amazon Prime. I have
Google Chromecast, but I am not impressed with the quality. The sound keeps
cutting out. I am looking at a Roku or Apple TV device. What are you all
using and can you give me some comments? I am also checking the inter webs
and making comparisons.


Thanks
Bruce



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RE: Cutting the Cable

2015-03-02 Thread Eric Roberts

OK...that makes more sense LOL

-Original Message-
From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:sor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 12:52 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Cutting the Cable


Shit, that’s a year, not month. Hahahahahaha 
 On Mar 2, 2015, at 1:43 PM, Bruce Sorge sor...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Howdy all,
 I know some of you on this list have made the switch from cable/satellite 
 television to just online, and I am getting ready to leave cable except for 
 internet. I discovered that I can save over $1,500.00 a month. My question is 
 what device to get? I have a PS3 for Netflix and Amazon Prime. I have Google 
 Chromecast, but I am not impressed with the quality. The sound keeps cutting 
 out. I am looking at a Roku or Apple TV device. What are you all using and 
 can you give me some comments? I am also checking the inter webs and making 
 comparisons.
 
 
 Thanks
 Bruce




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RE: lol AmericanThinker

2015-02-25 Thread Eric Roberts

Iran and Syria have been kicking ISIL's ass pretty hard.

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From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 2:33 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: lol AmericanThinker


I didn't get it,  but I don't think he's some deep penetration double agent.

Honestly,  how long do you think ISIS will last before the local populations 
deal with shit?  It's already happening.

To my mind ISIS could be the very thing that causes the needed internal 
reformation of Islam.
On Feb 25, 2015 3:28 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:


 Yes. Didn't he recently trade the Taliban Five for an army deserter?
 You weren't even a little concerned about that?

 .

 On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 3:16 PM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  You are comfortable with this:
 
  Obama is comfortable with Islam’s extreme
 
  ???
 
  Really? You believe that of our current sitting American president? 
  You believe that Muslim extremism does not bother him?
 
  On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  Let me just add Obama and his admin always refer to ISIS as ISIL. 
  That right there says plenty.
 
  As for the conclusion, I'm in agreement with this part. After that 
  he loses me:
 
 
  Maybe it was Obama’s idea of a joke, but that is unlikely.  The 
  finger in the air was a position statement brazenly stated.  His 
  entire administration has been a promotion of Islam at home and 
  abroad, and just cataloging the evidence would fill a book.  He has 
  made this country cozy for Islam, from ordering NASA to make 
  Muslims feel good about themselves to calling ISIS beheading victim 
  Peter Kassig by the Muslim name that he had adopted in the vain hope of 
  saving his life.
 
  If only Obama’s coziness were limited to such gestures, but from 
  the very beginning of his administration, he labored to topple the 
  strongman governments that had kept a lid on Islamic extremism:
  Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, Yemen.  Overthrowing the Syrian government 
  was also part the program, not yet achieved but still possible. The 
  methodology of each was a tactic from old-school radicalism: stir 
  up domestic trouble that triggers a crackdown, then use the 
  reaction to discredit the government and as a pretext for stirring 
  up greater cycles of trouble until the targeted regime is replaced.
 
  Obama is comfortable with Islam’s extreme.  He arms such people 
  throughout the Middle East.  He has let them into our government.  
  He supported the Muslim Brotherhood’s Muhammad Morsi as the 
  replacement for Hosni Mubarak, a staunch US ally and enemy of the 
  Muslim Brotherhood, and threatened and bullied Egypt when a massive 
  revolt replaced Morsi with a religious moderate.
 
  .
 
 
 
  On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 2:44 PM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   Sam likes to play devil's advocate.
  
   But i want to knowSam, do you think the conclusions in this 
   blog
 post
   are accurate?
  
 
 
 
 

 



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RE: lol AmericanThinker

2015-02-25 Thread Eric Roberts

I think quite a few liberals do too...

-Original Message-
From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 6:08 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: lol AmericanThinker


54% of Muslims believe that, deep down, Obama is a Republican.

On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote:


 So, 54% of republicans believe that deep down Obama is a Muslim lol lol
^_^

 http://www.vox.com/2015/2/25/8108005/obama-muslim-poll
 

http://www.vox.com/2015/2/25/8108005/obama-muslim-poll?utm_medium=socialutm
_source=facebookutm_campaign=voxdotcomutm_content=wednesday
 






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RE: Adobe Phonegap Build question...

2015-01-07 Thread Eric Roberts

That's what it was...I was reading the phonegap build instructions and they
said to just put the www folder contents in build (from a Cordova app) and
the recent version of Cordova moved the config.xml out of the www folder and
put it into the root.  Once I put a copy of the config.xml in the root (the
www folder in the orginal Cordova app) and configured that properly, things
worked just fine :-D

It looks for the widget ID in config.xml and since I didn't have a
config.xml in the code root, it apparently defaulted to something that was
the same in both of the apps.

Thanks!
Eric

-Original Message-
From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:chumph...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 8:12 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Adobe Phonegap Build question...


Not a PhoneGap dev but maybe something that ID's the app is set the same,
perhaps in the config.xml?
http://docs.phonegap.com/en/edge/config_ref_index.md.html#The%20config.xml%2
0File


Until Later!
C. Hatton Humphrey
http://www.eastcoastconservative.com

Like the saying goes, Measure Twice, Cut Onc...

On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Eric Roberts 
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote:


 Does anyone have any experience using the Adobe Phonegap Build 
 website?  I have been playing around with it as we needed a better way 
 to kep our private application updated remotely without using the app
store or iTunes.
 Hydration on the Build site works perfectly.  The problem I am having 
 is that if I try to load the 2 apps I have created on the site on a 
 device, iOS or Android.doesn't matter, the device looks at the app as 
 the same app even though they are 2 different apps with 2 different 
 file names.  According to the website, they both have different app 
 id's.  Am I missing something in the setup?  I am an absolute noob 
 when it comes to mobile apps, so I am kinda blindly poking around.  If 
 anyone knows what I am doing wrong, I would appreciate the help.



 Eric



 



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Adobe Phonegap Build question...

2015-01-06 Thread Eric Roberts

Does anyone have any experience using the Adobe Phonegap Build website?  I
have been playing around with it as we needed a better way to kep our
private application updated remotely without using the app store or iTunes.
Hydration on the Build site works perfectly.  The problem I am having is
that if I try to load the 2 apps I have created on the site on a device, iOS
or Android.doesn't matter, the device looks at the app as the same app even
though they are 2 different apps with 2 different file names.  According to
the website, they both have different app id's.  Am I missing something in
the setup?  I am an absolute noob when it comes to mobile apps, so I am
kinda blindly poking around.  If anyone knows what I am doing wrong, I would
appreciate the help.

 

Eric



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RE: New Years Resolution

2015-01-01 Thread Eric Roberts

Amen to that.  The past 2 years have really sucked for me and the past 10
have been pretty rough financially...I finally got a permanent gig that I
started 1 December (no more contract work YAY),  so things are turning
around finally.  I will have that financial stability that I need and
actually get some of those mythical benefits I hear so much about.

Eric

-Original Message-
From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:chumph...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2015 9:12 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: New Years Resolution


On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Michael Dinowitz 
mdino...@houseoffusion.com wrote:

 So now that I've defined the almost impossible for my resolution, what 
 do you resolve for the new year? ;)


2014 was a tough year for me, best described as a long hilly drive with kids
in the back.  There have been good times but also some pretty rough times.
My resolution is to do everything I can to make 2015 better, fiscally and
physically.

That sounds nebulous, but most resolutions are.  I actually started well
before Christmas but am making it a resolution to continue.

Until Later!
C. Hatton Humphrey
http://www.eastcoastconservative.com

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RE: glutton for punishment

2014-12-30 Thread Eric Roberts

LOL..  My daughter loves goosebumps.  I have a much younger brother and he
had the whole series, which my daughter inherited...

Eric

-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:mdino...@houseoffusion.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 7:53 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: glutton for punishment


You've all heard me moan and complain about my children's addiction to
reading. The problem is, despite knowing what the future will hold for her,
I'm encouraging my 7y.o. to read. She sat 2 hours straight last night
reading Goosebumps and I praised her for it. I'm a masochist.




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God Jul!!!!

2014-12-24 Thread Eric Roberts

I would like to wish everyone a God Jul and Happy Holidays, whichever
holiday you happen to celebrate!!

Eric


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RE: Happy Birthday Angel

2014-12-22 Thread Eric Roberts

W000t!  Happy birthday Angel!!!  I hope you have a very awesome day!

Eric

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Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 8:17 AM
To: cf-community
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Celebrate!




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RE: Fox Entertainment network blocked on Dish...

2014-12-22 Thread Eric Roberts

LOL...karma is a bitch, isn't it LOL

Eric

-Original Message-
From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 8:15 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Fox Entertainment network blocked on Dish...


http://www.engadget.com/2014/12/21/dish-networks-latest-squabble-turns-off-f
ox-news-business-chan/


-Cameron

...




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RE: Fox Entertainment network blocked on Dish...

2014-12-22 Thread Eric Roberts

No kidding...

-Original Message-
From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 9:10 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Fox Entertainment network blocked on Dish...


On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Sam wrote:

 Oh no, now how am I going to watch Special Report with Bret Baier?
 Maybe it will be on the interwebs


While Fox News is blocked I think TMZ may be a good substitute. They appear
to have the same level of credibility and lack of bias.

-Cameron

...




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RE: US economy beat all 3rd quarter expectations!

2014-11-25 Thread Eric Roberts

Fucking Obama...

-Original Message-
From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 7:43 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: US economy beat all 3rd quarter expectations!


http://www.businessinsider.com/q3-gdp-first-revision-november-25-2014-11

The first revision to third quarter GDP showed the US economy grew at an
annualized rate of 3.9% during the quarter.

Great news!




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RE: Republican report on Benghazi finds no wrong doing.

2014-11-22 Thread Eric Roberts

Sad thing is that these traitorous fucktards got relected.

-Original Message-
From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 1:58 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Republican report on Benghazi finds no wrong doing.


This is so laughable! Wonder when the party supporters are going to impeach
their own representatives for wasting so much time, or when supporters are
going to pull their funds for wasting them on Benghazi! Or when Fox news
executives are going to instruct their staff to apologise for the thousands
of hours spent talking about a conspiracy that was fabricated, and not
having the investigative journalist skills to realise that?

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/11/21/politics/benghazi-attack-report/index.html
?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_latest
+%28RSS%3A+Most+Recent%29

*An investigative report prepared by the House Intelligence Committee finds
little to support questions raised about CIA actions on the ground in
Benghazi, Libya, the night of a deadly 2012 attack on the U.S. diplomatic
compound.*

*The final report, from Chairman Mike Rogers, R-Michigan, and ranking member
Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger, D-Maryland, concludes there was no intelligence
failure prior to the attack, no stand-down order to CIA operatives trying to
go assist at the besieged consular building and found conflicting
intelligence in the wake of the attack about the motive and cause, which
were reflected in early public comments by the administration. *

In other words it was all BS and lies. So these guys are either extremely
stupid and incompetent, or they took everyone for a ride by concocting a
story for political gain in the wake of a tragic situation.




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RE: Republican report on Benghazi finds no wrong doing.

2014-11-22 Thread Eric Roberts

Never...they will just move on to the next fake conspiracy.  Basically do
anything but govern.

Eric

-Original Message-
From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 1:58 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Republican report on Benghazi finds no wrong doing.


This is so laughable! Wonder when the party supporters are going to impeach
their own representatives for wasting so much time, or when supporters are
going to pull their funds for wasting them on Benghazi! Or when Fox news
executives are going to instruct their staff to apologise for the thousands
of hours spent talking about a conspiracy that was fabricated, and not
having the investigative journalist skills to realise that?

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/11/21/politics/benghazi-attack-report/index.html
?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_latest
+%28RSS%3A+Most+Recent%29

*An investigative report prepared by the House Intelligence Committee finds
little to support questions raised about CIA actions on the ground in
Benghazi, Libya, the night of a deadly 2012 attack on the U.S. diplomatic
compound.*

*The final report, from Chairman Mike Rogers, R-Michigan, and ranking member
Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger, D-Maryland, concludes there was no intelligence
failure prior to the attack, no stand-down order to CIA operatives trying to
go assist at the besieged consular building and found conflicting
intelligence in the wake of the attack about the motive and cause, which
were reflected in early public comments by the administration. *

In other words it was all BS and lies. So these guys are either extremely
stupid and incompetent, or they took everyone for a ride by concocting a
story for political gain in the wake of a tragic situation.




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RE: Ramptay va. Lutsay

2014-11-16 Thread Eric Roberts

I have always heart it referred to as a tramp stamp...I never heard it
called a slut stamp.

Eric

-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:mdino...@houseoffusion.com] 
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 1:36 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Ramptay va. Lutsay


A young lady whom I know had bent over in my presence recently and her shirt
rode up some. On her lower back was the indentations of the bungee cords
that made up the chair she was just sitting in. I mentioned that it looked
like an S stamp (there were younger kids present so I didn't want to be more
specific).
She disagreed with me and said it was a T stamp. I kept saying S and she
kept saying T. She must have thought I didn't understand so she said in pig
Latin that it was a Ramptay stamp, not a Lutsay stamp.
So the question goes out to you. Is it Ramptay or Lutsay?

Isn't it great when people can talk intelligently with each other? ;)



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RE: news of the week

2014-11-14 Thread Eric Roberts

Yup...I was able to easily get good insurance on my own.  Prior to the ACA I
was unable to because I have diabetes and asthma.  When I was in a long
period of unemployment, they actually shunted me directly to medicare and
got me enrolled in medicare pretty quickly and easily.

-Original Message-
From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 9:40 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: news of the week


Just curious, is there anyone on this list who has personally benefited from
ObamaCare? I'm not looking for political bullshit, or he-said-she-said
crapjust wonderingit has to have helped SOMEONE, right?

I want to hear about it.

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:


 I see the WP finally mentioned him but it's kind of a puff peace about 
 how he's worth the $400k he was paid by the government.

 .

 On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Bruce Sorge sor...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  They are not interviews, their speeches. And Washington Post 
  actually
 picked it up as well now

 



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RE: news of the week

2014-11-14 Thread Eric Roberts

Sounds to me like you need to shop for a better plan...

-Original Message-
From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 12:00 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: news of the week


My premium stayed the samebut i now pay for EVERY medical issue out of
my pocket. It's basically like i have no coverage at all. It's catastrophic
coverage is what it is. If someone gets deathly ill and spends a month in
the hospital, i'll be out 10 grand or so, but not go completely bankrupt.
Gee thanks.

For that same price i used to get coverage on everything. Doc visits were
$20. Many other things were free to me.

SOMEONE is getting more money out of mei'm just curious who it is.



On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 11:53 AM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote:


 That's basically my feeling in it at this point.

 The insurance for my kids went up $400 a month.
 On Nov 14, 2014 12:51 PM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote:

 
  I wonder why those beneficial requirements couldn't be included in a 
  much less expansive billone that kept the rest of the system 
  pretty much
 in
  tact?
 
  I'm curious to hear from anyone who simply could not get insurance
 before,
  but now has a nice shiny new affordable plan in place. Wasn't that
 supposed
  to be the major benefit of this? I'm paying a helluva lot more these 
  daysand I just wonder where that money is going? Is it going to 
  help other people...my peers as it were...or is it lining some fat cats'
 pocket?
 
 
  On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 11:46 AM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  
   The change in rules allowed me to get medicaid.
  
   Beats the hell out if just having VA coverage.
  
   I hate to be supportive of any of it, but there are a few decent 
   things
  in
   there like Jerry mentioned and no previously existing conditions.
   On Nov 14, 2014 12:19 PM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   
Cool.
   
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson 
 jmi...@gmail.com
  
wrote:
   

 Yes, both specifically in Massachusetts (Romneycare), and I 
 will be
greatly
 helped by the cannot be denied if you switch jobs part of it.

 The fact that without it (and with the changes insurance 
 companies
  had
been
 moving towards) I would lose healthcare for pre-existing 
 conditions
(type 1
 diabetes) means i could not switch jobs, which basically puts 
 me in
  an
 indentured servant class.

 My sister's family was helped by better costs in Connecticut, 
 for
   better
 healthcare coverage.


 On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Bruce Sorge 
 sor...@gmail.com
   wrote:

 
  The Army uses try care for his medical benefits. It conforms 
  with
   Obama
  care so nothing is changed for me
 
  Sent from my iPhone 5S
 
   On Nov 14, 2014, at 10:39 AM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  
  
   Just curious, is there anyone on this list who has 
   personally
benefited
   from ObamaCare? I'm not looking for political bullshit, or
  he-said-she-said
   crapjust wonderingit has to have helped SOMEONE,
right?
  
   I want to hear about it.
  
   On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Sam 
   sammyc...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
  
   I see the WP finally mentioned him but it's kind of a 
   puff
 peace
about
   how he's worth the $400k he was paid by the government.
  
   .
  
   On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Bruce Sorge 
 sor...@gmail.com
  
 wrote:
  
   They are not interviews, their speeches. And Washington 
   Post
actually
   picked it up as well now
  
  
  
  
 
 


   
   
  
  
 
 

 



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RE: news of the week

2014-11-14 Thread Eric Roberts

No, like people who don't have the benefit of employer sponsored
healthcare...

-Original Message-
From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 2:31 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: news of the week


You mean like insurance company CEO's and compliance lawyers?

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote:


 Perhaps the people helped the most by Obamacare would not be found on 
 this list? :-\


 



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RE: Jealous Computers

2014-10-24 Thread Eric Roberts

LOL

-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:mdino...@houseoffusion.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 9:23 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Jealous Computers


The strip left off the rest of that sentence. It really said Please Load
Argument Disk 2 of 47

On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Eric Roberts 
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote:


 Please Load Argument Disk 2  SNORK!!!

 -Original Message-
 From: Judith Dinowitz [mailto:edi...@fusionauthority.com]
 Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 3:04 PM
 To: cf-community
 Subject: Jealous Computers


 Another partially clips I thought you'd all enjoy:

 http://partiallyclips.com/2014/10/22/buried-in-computer-paper/

 So what do you think E.D.I.T.H. stands for?

 Judith

 http://www.flex-authority.com/




 



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RE: Jealous Computers

2014-10-23 Thread Eric Roberts

Please Load Argument Disk 2  SNORK!!!

-Original Message-
From: Judith Dinowitz [mailto:edi...@fusionauthority.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 3:04 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Jealous Computers


Another partially clips I thought you'd all enjoy:

http://partiallyclips.com/2014/10/22/buried-in-computer-paper/

So what do you think E.D.I.T.H. stands for?

Judith

http://www.flex-authority.com/




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RE: My music

2014-10-14 Thread Eric Roberts

Congrats and break a leg

-Original Message-
From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 8:12 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: My music


For the last several years I have been working on a double album of my music
and some of my favorite covers. I will be releasing the CD  very soon. I am
currently doing pre-sales to cover the final cost of production.

The genre is country flavored singer/songwriter.

If you would like to purchase, this is the link to the page on my website.

http://planetjudith.com/pages/cd1.html

Thanks in advance



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RE: Ebola in our hemisphere, you scared?

2014-10-10 Thread Eric Roberts

Not without access to bodily fluids.  A cut would certainly help to
facilitate that.

-Original Message-
From: Ray Champagne [mailto:r...@raychampagne.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 9:21 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Ebola in our hemisphere, you scared?


I read it cannot be transmitted through the skin?

On Thursday, October 9, 2014, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
wrote:


 Yes...if you remove your protective suit the wrong way and come in 
 contact with body fluids that are on your protective suit...yup...you 
 are now infected.  It is very virulent, but you still have to actually 
 come in contact with body fluids.  The virus also lasts longer than 
 most outside the body.  It will even remain active in dried up fluids 
 for several days.

 -Original Message-
 From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com javascript:;]
 Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 10:23 AM
 To: cf-community
 Subject: Re: Ebola in our hemisphere, you scared?


 I don't know if it's that cut and dry. The latest American with 
 symptoms didn't have direct contact. Now they're also saying that if 
 you remove your protective suit the wrong way you'll get it. I think 
 we need to keep asking questions until they know for sure. I was 
 talking to a friend that works for the CDC about a month ago and he 
 said they have no definitive idea of how it spreads and how viral it 
 will get. I say, be cautious and wait for the science.

 .

 On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 10:55 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey 
 chumph...@gmail.com javascript:;
 wrote:
 
  On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com 
  javascript:;
 wrote:
 
   When it comes to disease I tend to listen to doctors over the 
   other
  guys
   yes.
 
  The Doctors on the news or the Doctors sent out by the regime for 
  the press?
 
 
  I've been listening to the doctors that have been working on the 
  ground in African countries.
 
  The reason it's more infectious over there is for two reasons - 
  one cultural because of the funeral rites of many tribes that 
  include washing, dressing and even kissing the body of the deceased.  
  The other is capacity which has been documented. ( 
  http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/13/kissing-the-corpses
  -i
  n-ebola-country.html
  )
 
  In the US the second of those issues is not an issue.  The first 
  might be a challenge but even then facilities are available.
 
  In short, I'm not buying the fear or the hype.
 



 



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RE: Ebola in our hemisphere, you scared?

2014-10-10 Thread Eric Roberts

The major issue is that all of the news outlets are doing little more than
spreading fear and misinformation.  Ignorant people then panicking about it
and spreading even more info that they read on tinfoil hat websites doesn't
help either.  I wish there was a way to force people to research...that
would solve a lot of problems in many areas hehehe.

-Original Message-
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 10:54 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Ebola in our hemisphere, you scared?


I think it's way too early to believe the science is settled.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ebola-questions-20141007-story.html#page
=2

.


On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Ray Champagne r...@raychampagne.com wrote:

 I read it cannot be transmitted through the skin?




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RE: Devastating consequences of US attacks in middle east.

2014-10-09 Thread Eric Roberts

One of the big ones has been depleted uranium.  We use depleted uranium
munitions quite a bit.  This has cause off the scaled birth defects in Iraq
and Afghanistan.

-Original Message-
From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 7:24 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Devastating consequences of US attacks in middle east.


On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Vivec wrote:

 What you don't know about the aftermath of military action by the US 
 in the Middle East.


I've read a bit about this. Many of the more modern weapons use shells that
have come pretty toxic components. These components are not banned as
chemical weapons since they are not designed to have an immediate impact
(chemically or biologically) on the target, but they are not good at all for
the long environment where they have been used.

-Cameron

...




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RE: Ebola in our hemisphere, you scared?

2014-10-09 Thread Eric Roberts

Not to mention poor sanitation and infected drinking sources.  The guy that
came over here got it because he helped to carry his infected sister or
cousin...I forget which offhand) who ended up dying.  It is transmitted
through the sweat, so when you pick a body up (and touch their skin or come
in contact with cloth that is soaked with their seat, blood, puke, etc...),
of someone that has died or is infection, you get infected.  It's can also
be transmitted sexually up to 6 weeks after recoverythey are trying to
get males to make sure they wear condoms in the nations where the epidemic
has been declared over to try and prevent a resurgence of it.

-Original Message-
From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:chumph...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 9:55 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Ebola in our hemisphere, you scared?


On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:

  When it comes to disease I tend to listen to doctors over the other
 guys
  yes.

 The Doctors on the news or the Doctors sent out by the regime for the 
 press?


I've been listening to the doctors that have been working on the ground in
African countries.

The reason it's more infectious over there is for two reasons - one
cultural because of the funeral rites of many tribes that include washing,
dressing and even kissing the body of the deceased.  The other is capacity
which has been documented. (
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/13/kissing-the-corpses-in-ebol
a-country.html
)

In the US the second of those issues is not an issue.  The first might be a
challenge but even then facilities are available.

In short, I'm not buying the fear or the hype.

Until Later!
C. Hatton Humphrey
http://www.eastcoastconservative.com

Every cloud does have a silver lining.  Sometimes you just have to do some
smelting to find it.




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RE: Ebola in our hemisphere, you scared?

2014-10-09 Thread Eric Roberts

Yes...if you remove your protective suit the wrong way and come in contact
with body fluids that are on your protective suit...yup...you are now
infected.  It is very virulent, but you still have to actually come in
contact with body fluids.  The virus also lasts longer than most outside the
body.  It will even remain active in dried up fluids for several days.

-Original Message-
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 10:23 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Ebola in our hemisphere, you scared?


I don't know if it's that cut and dry. The latest American with symptoms
didn't have direct contact. Now they're also saying that if you remove your
protective suit the wrong way you'll get it. I think we need to keep asking
questions until they know for sure. I was talking to a friend that works for
the CDC about a month ago and he said they have no definitive idea of how it
spreads and how viral it will get. I say, be cautious and wait for the
science.

.

On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 10:55 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey chumph...@gmail.com
wrote:

 On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:

  When it comes to disease I tend to listen to doctors over the 
  other
 guys
  yes.

 The Doctors on the news or the Doctors sent out by the regime for the 
 press?


 I've been listening to the doctors that have been working on the 
 ground in African countries.

 The reason it's more infectious over there is for two reasons - one 
 cultural because of the funeral rites of many tribes that include 
 washing, dressing and even kissing the body of the deceased.  The 
 other is capacity which has been documented. ( 
 http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/13/kissing-the-corpses-i
 n-ebola-country.html
 )

 In the US the second of those issues is not an issue.  The first might 
 be a challenge but even then facilities are available.

 In short, I'm not buying the fear or the hype.




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RE: Going to go see the First Lady today!!!

2014-10-08 Thread Eric Roberts

Rally's don't cost money...they are free.  It wasn't a fundraising event.

Eric

-Original Message-
From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 9:16 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Going to go see the First Lady today!!!


I know i have vastly different views on politics than anyone else.

I think it's a disease, and people who engage in it actively are sick. I'd
rather butt fuck the ebola virus than go to a political rally. Giving your
time and excitement and worst of all, your money, to some asshole so he can
get a cushy 6 figure salary, all because he sold you hook line and sinker on
his brand of bullshitmakes no sense to me.

At least at Disneyland you realize you're being sodomized by a giant rodent.

On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 8:47 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey chumph...@gmail.com
wrote:


 On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson jmi...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I don't see anything wrong with a 9 year old being excited about a 
  rally
 or
  stump speech. They are meant to generate enthusiasm and emotion.
 
  Seeing the First Lady , regardless of party, should always be exciting.
 

 I'm with Jerry on this one (though I would be tempted to bring a 
 McDonald's bag just for snark).

 What's interesting is that regardless of how we do or do not try to 
 indoctrinate our children, apples rarely fall far from the tree.  At 
 6, my daughter proudly told me that she didn't like Obama because, he 
 sounded like he wanted to take things from people. (or something like 
 that)  I had never really talked to her about politics.  She's 12 now 
 and hasn't changed much.

 Along the same lines, one of her friends is the daughter of a 
 stereotypical highbrow-liberal family (using stereotypes here I know) 
 and she falls in line with her family's political beliefs.  I don't 
 know if they've done much in the way of indoctrination but I honestly
doubt it.

 I think in both cases it's how values and concepts are modeled by the 
 family, not anything that is actively drilled into their skulls.

 My son just flips between thinking he's a Jedi and a Sith.  He'll deal 
 with politics later.

 Until Later!
 C. Hatton Humphrey
 http://www.eastcoastconservative.com

 Every cloud does have a silver lining.  Sometimes you just have to do 
 some smelting to find it.


 



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Going to go see the First Lady today!!!

2014-10-07 Thread Eric Roberts

I am taking my daughter to the pat Quinn Rally (He is the gov of IL for the
non-Illinoians here) at the UIC Pavilion in Chicago.  Michelle Obama is
going to be speaking at the rally this afternoon.  She is really excited to
be able to see the First lady and hear her speak...not bad for a 9 year old!
It's the same level of excitement you would expect from a kid going to
Disneyland!  I know a few of you here are FB friends...i will be posting
photos all afternoon of the event.

Eric


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RE: Going to go see the First Lady today!!!

2014-10-07 Thread Eric Roberts

LOL

-Original Message-
From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:chumph...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 12:02 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Going to go see the First Lady today!!!


Be sure to take her a cheeseburger!

/me flees

Until Later!
C. Hatton Humphrey
http://www.eastcoastconservative.com

Every cloud does have a silver lining.  Sometimes you just have to do some
smelting to find it.

On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Eric Roberts 
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote:


 I am taking my daughter to the pat Quinn Rally (He is the gov of IL 
 for the non-Illinoians here) at the UIC Pavilion in Chicago.  Michelle 
 Obama is going to be speaking at the rally this afternoon.  She is 
 really excited to be able to see the First lady and hear her 
 speak...not bad for a 9 year old!
 It's the same level of excitement you would expect from a kid going to 
 Disneyland!  I know a few of you here are FB friends...i will be 
 posting photos all afternoon of the event.

 Eric


 



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RE: Going to go see the First Lady today!!!

2014-10-07 Thread Eric Roberts

It was a great rally She gave a great speech as did Gov. Quinn, Senator
Durbin, and a host of other IL  office holders.  The UIC Pavilion was
packed...it was pretty awesome.  Last time I had been there was a for a
Godsmack/Staind concert back in 1999...parking sure hasn't improved LOL.  I
ended up having to park almost a mile away...I parked at Teamster
City...it's an office building with a bunch of teamster and other union
offices.  My daughter, Rhiannon, really enjoyed it.  You know you are doing
parenting right when a 9 year old gets as excited about a political rally as
she would for Disneyland LOL

-Original Message-
From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:chumph...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 12:02 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Going to go see the First Lady today!!!


Be sure to take her a cheeseburger!

/me flees

Until Later!
C. Hatton Humphrey
http://www.eastcoastconservative.com

Every cloud does have a silver lining.  Sometimes you just have to do some
smelting to find it.

On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Eric Roberts 
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote:


 I am taking my daughter to the pat Quinn Rally (He is the gov of IL 
 for the non-Illinoians here) at the UIC Pavilion in Chicago.  Michelle 
 Obama is going to be speaking at the rally this afternoon.  She is 
 really excited to be able to see the First lady and hear her 
 speak...not bad for a 9 year old!
 It's the same level of excitement you would expect from a kid going to 
 Disneyland!  I know a few of you here are FB friends...i will be 
 posting photos all afternoon of the event.

 Eric


 



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RE: What the iPhone 6 does better than the rest

2014-09-27 Thread Eric Roberts

How did they do an MP3 player better than anyone else?  Even the cheap
crappy ones you can buy for 5 bucks play music just as good.  My old
Creative Labs MP3 player that came out long before there was ever an iPod
played music just as good as an iPod years before there was an iPod.  It
synced with my computer's music folder...the only thing special about it was
the introduction of iTunes to download music...though if I remember
correctly, my player hooked up with Rhapsody.  I never saw what was so
innovative about it.  Apple products are overpriced status symbols.  Ever
since the PC's became just as powerful in the graphics department, Apple
hasn't been anything special.  Hel...the only way they were able to improve
their OS was to make it a Linux shell...

Eric

-Original Message-
From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 10:28 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: What the iPhone 6 does better than the rest


The apple iPod was a game changer ^_^
They did the dedicated digital music player better than anyone else ever
did, or has done since ;-D

On 27 September 2014 11:12, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote:


 people would claim it was a 'game changer' and that Apple






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RE: What the iPhone 6 does better than the rest

2014-09-27 Thread Eric Roberts

Innovative how?

-Original Message-
From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 7:08 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: What the iPhone 6 does better than the rest


The click wheel interface was pretty innovative at the time. I remember that
my brother had one from Dell at the same time I got my first iPod classic.
Hands down, it was easier to navigate the iPod. The other difference was the
quality of the components.  Audiophiles would use the iPod along with the
FLAC codec to store their digital collections because of the quality if the
DAC.

As for apple products being overpriced, I'm sure there are a lot of people
that feel that way. I don't happen to be one of them.  I also  think that
other companies have quality products e.g. Lenovo, but you end up spending a
similar amount because you have to get the higher end product.

On Saturday, September 27, 2014, Eric Roberts 
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote:


 How did they do an MP3 player better than anyone else?  Even the cheap 
 crappy ones you can buy for 5 bucks play music just as good.  My old 
 Creative Labs MP3 player that came out long before there was ever an 
 iPod played music just as good as an iPod years before there was an 
 iPod.  It synced with my computer's music folder...the only thing 
 special about it was the introduction of iTunes to download 
 music...though if I remember correctly, my player hooked up with 
 Rhapsody.  I never saw what was so innovative about it.  Apple 
 products are overpriced status symbols.  Ever since the PC's became 
 just as powerful in the graphics department, Apple hasn't been 
 anything special.  Hel...the only way they were able to improve their 
 OS was to make it a Linux shell...

 Eric

 -Original Message-
 From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com javascript:;]
 Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 10:28 AM
 To: cf-community
 Subject: Re: What the iPhone 6 does better than the rest


 The apple iPod was a game changer ^_^
 They did the dedicated digital music player better than anyone else 
 ever did, or has done since ;-D

 On 27 September 2014 11:12, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com 
 javascript:;
 wrote:

 
  people would claim it was a 'game changer' and that Apple
 
 




 



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RE: What the iPhone 6 does better than the rest

2014-09-27 Thread Eric Roberts

https://www.facebook.com/theoatmeal/photos/a.10150413121115078.628758.220779
885077/10154686870095078/?type=1theater

Sorry if you can't see this...

-Original Message-
From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 8:04 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: What the iPhone 6 does better than the rest


I was an Apple convert. Had a 17 inch MacBook pro. Wife and I both had I
phones. I was all in.

When it came time to replace the MacBook Pro, I tried to justify the cost
difference. For me, a Mac did not make me more productive. Many claim it
makes them much more productive - leading me to believe that either I did
not know how to use OS X, or they don't know how to use Windows. None of the
tools I use for web development are Mac specific and are all cross platform.

For me, I saw no advantage of one OS over the other, so I went with what
cost less. Which was a Windows machine from Dell.
On Sep 27, 2014 8:20 PM, Bruce Sorge sor...@gmail.com wrote:


 IMO, you get what you pay for. I was a devout windows and android 
 user. I used to mock apple folks. Then I was offered a work in kind 
 deal, and for some reason, I chose to be paid in the form of a 17 
 MacBook Pro. It took a while, but in the end, I was a convert. Now I 
 have an iPhone, iPad and of course the Mac. I love them all. I love 
 the interoperability of all three devices. I am looking forward to 
 Yosemite to come out for the Mac to see what new level of 
 interoperability I get. I still have two Windows machines in my house. 
 they run Windows 7 and 8. I don't know why I hang onto them, but on 
 rare occasions I will fire one up. I may turn one of them into a linux 
 machine running Apache, PHP and ColdFusion as well as MySQL for a
development web server since the sites I host are all on Linux servers.
 I don't think that Apple does anything revolutionary. IMO, it 
 appears to me that they see what's out there, what people like and 
 don't like, and make/upgrade a product that has the things that folks 
 want, and not much of what they don't want. Again, my opinion.
 I don't mind that Apple waits a while to develop something that 
 Android has been doing for a while. I am patient. I was not jonesing 
 for a SWYPE keyboard, but as soon as I upgraded my iPhone to iOS 8, I 
 paid the whopping
 .99 cents to get it. I am looking forward to seeing how the iWatch is 
 going to work. From what I read, Apple took what Samsung has been 
 doing with their watch, and making tweaks so that it's what people 
 want, and leaving out what they don't want.
 In the end, its all about what you like. I won't bash a windows or 
 android user (I will bash Windows 8 though) just because they like their
systems.
 As was said in this thread, to each their own.

 Sent from my iPad

  On Sep 27, 2014, at 8:07 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox 
 zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  The click wheel interface was pretty innovative at the time. I 
  remember that my brother had one from Dell at the same time I got my 
  first iPod classic. Hands down, it was easier to navigate the iPod. 
  The other difference was the quality of the components.  Audiophiles 
  would use the iPod along with the FLAC codec to store their digital 
  collections because of the quality if the DAC.
 
  As for apple products being overpriced, I'm sure there are a lot of
 people
  that feel that way. I don't happen to be one of them.  I also  think 
  that other companies have quality products e.g. Lenovo, but you end 
  up
 spending
  a similar amount because you have to get the higher end product.
 
  On Saturday, September 27, 2014, Eric Roberts  
  ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote:
 
 
  How did they do an MP3 player better than anyone else?  Even the 
  cheap crappy ones you can buy for 5 bucks play music just as good.  
  My old Creative Labs MP3 player that came out long before there was 
  ever an
 iPod
  played music just as good as an iPod years before there was an 
  iPod.  It synced with my computer's music folder...the only thing 
  special about it was the introduction of iTunes to download 
  music...though if I remember correctly, my player hooked up with 
  Rhapsody.  I never saw what was so innovative about it.  Apple 
  products are overpriced status symbols.
 Ever
  since the PC's became just as powerful in the graphics department, 
  Apple hasn't been anything special.  Hel...the only way they were 
  able to
 improve
  their OS was to make it a Linux shell...
 
  Eric
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com javascript:;]
  Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 10:28 AM
  To: cf-community
  Subject: Re: What the iPhone 6 does better than the rest
 
 
  The apple iPod was a game changer ^_^ They did the dedicated 
  digital music player better than anyone else ever did, or has done 
  since ;-D
 
  On 27 September 2014 11:12, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com
 javascript:;
  wrote:
 
 
  people would claim it was a 'game

RE: What the iPhone 6 does better than the rest

2014-09-26 Thread Eric Roberts

Same thing applies to Android and Windows phones.

-Original Message-
From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 1:52 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: What the iPhone 6 does better than the rest


the nice thing about it is that Apple can issue a software fix and *all* the
phones that can run IOS8 will get it.  You won't have to buy a new phone to
get the fix :)

On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 1:38 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote:


 What did Apple do better?

 Advertise
 On Sep 26, 2014 2:29 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 
 http://www.tomsguide.com/us/iphone-6-ios8-camera-problems,news-19585.h
 tml
 
  Seems like a software update can fix this.
 
  .
 
 
  On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 12:02 PM, J.J. Merrick j...@panos.cc wrote:
  
   I think his point is that the camera is to the point where it 
   gives him
  the
   controls etc that mimic the tools he has in his DSLR and that the
 optics
   are super crisp.
  
  
 
 

 



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RE: What the iPhone 6 does better than the rest

2014-09-26 Thread Eric Roberts

The same applies to iPhones...if you still have the iPhone 4, you can't
upgrade to the latest OS either.  When iPhone 8 or 9 is the latest and
greatest, you won't be able to upgrade to the latest version of iOS on your
iPhone6.

-Original Message-
From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 4:36 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: What the iPhone 6 does better than the rest


except when it doesn't

http://www.androidcentral.com/why-you-ll-never-have-latest-version-android


On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Eric Roberts 
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote:


 Same thing applies to Android and Windows phones.

 -Original Message-
 From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 1:52 PM
 To: cf-community
 Subject: Re: What the iPhone 6 does better than the rest


 the nice thing about it is that Apple can issue a software fix and 
 *all* the phones that can run IOS8 will get it.  You won't have to buy 
 a new phone to get the fix :)

 On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 1:38 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote:

 
  What did Apple do better?
 
  Advertise
  On Sep 26, 2014 2:29 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  
  
  http://www.tomsguide.com/us/iphone-6-ios8-camera-problems,news-19585
  .h
  tml
  
   Seems like a software update can fix this.
  
   .
  
  
   On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 12:02 PM, J.J. Merrick j...@panos.cc wrote:
   
I think his point is that the camera is to the point where it 
gives him
   the
controls etc that mimic the tools he has in his DSLR and that 
the
  optics
are super crisp.
   
   
  
  
 
 



 



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RE: What the iPhone 6 does better than the rest

2014-09-25 Thread Eric Roberts

Drain your bank account?

-Original Message-
From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 6:40 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: What the iPhone 6 does better than the rest


For those of you wondering, here's what the iPhone 6 does better than any
other phone out there on the market:

The 64 bit A8 Processor is better and faster than anything else on the
market.

The fingerprint scanner is the best performing scanner on the market, and it
is absolutely better than Samsung's S5 implementation

The camera has an autofocus system usually reserved for DSLRs.

Hand off of tasks between Apple devices is great, and a productivity booster
for many. Pick up writing an email, an SMS, or sharing documents immediately
between devices. (moving from your desktop to your iPad in your bedroom, for
example, would be seamless)

ApplePay is a tremendous innovation, with the ability to radically change
the way we use Credit Cards

So these aren't necessarily revolutionary changes, but neither has anything
the competition has done been revolutionary.

However, once again, Apple takes its incremental improvements and implements
them correctly and with a marketing flair that appeals to its customer base.
Which is why the iPhone launch always boast the best sell throughs of any
mobile device.




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RE: Man accused of invading white house was a war vet

2014-09-22 Thread Eric Roberts

More info...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/white-house-fence-jumper-had-ammun
ition-machete-in-car-prosecutors-said/2014/09/22/d37ece60-4274-11e4-b47c-f58
89e061e5f_story.html?wpisrc=al_national

This was the knife he had...

http://www.amazon.com/Spyderco-Endura4-Lightweight-Ground-PlainEdge/dp/B003C
H77WW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1411415907sr=8-1keywords=spyderco+vg10



-Original Message-
From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 9:21 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Man accused of invading white house was a war vet


I read his story this morning. Very sad, and all too common tale i'm afraid.

Grew up in a military family. Wanted to be a soldier all his life.
Enlisted, and then re-enlisted when our second Iraq war deepened. Became
more and more disillusioned in our efforts in Iraq, then got wounded and
became entangled in the VA care mess, with long waits and miles of red-tape
before he got any of his benefits. Treated, unsuccessfully apparently, for
PTSD and depression.

This was a young man dedicated to helping his country.and this is how
he's been repaid. I don't know who's to blamemaybe these things just
happen, i dunnobut it's really sad. Just a sad story. I hope he gets the
help he needs and DESERVES.

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 8:44 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote:


 The Texas man accused of breaking into the White House on Friday night 
 while armed with a 3.5-inch knife is a decorated U.S. Iraq war 
 veteran, the U.S. Army said.

 A second man was arrested on Saturday for trespassing at the White 
 House after approaching the White House gates on foot, being sent away 
 and then returned in a vehicle, the Secret Service said.

 Read more: http://yhoo.it/1rhwyE4
 
 http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fyhoo.it%2F1rhwyE4h=RAQHu09
 Yeenc=AZN6E-rWTADu6jEs6_dS5ScyQJeDp9f3TVo0RwwAhluaaEtKJFmNj5L0EfeOoe6
 mLXxIFVMzI0OAKbJW1t_jJfYWfUA8jgbsKiVAz1ExDXVFpMo_g5itV-xgRTgS6ZOdI3oIq
 8zOcO1XpKgHCAQRNjLus=1
 

 

 This is the second incident, the last someone got onto the lawn. This 
 time someone made it INTO the white house. What's up with that , 
 secret service??


 



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RE: Who's rocking iOS8??

2014-09-18 Thread Eric Roberts

So something else Android users have had for a very long time...*grin*

-Original Message-
From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 8:53 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Who's rocking iOS8??


On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 8:47 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:

 Do you mean recognize music like Shazam or SoundHound?


Yes. It's actually powered by Shazam. You ask Siri what's playing and she
invokes the Shazam to tell you.

http://www.cnet.com/how-to/siri-can-now-name-that-tune-via-ios-8/

-Cameron

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New video in the Ferguson shooting...

2014-09-11 Thread Eric Roberts

http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/26508217/new-video-surfaces-from-ferguson
-shooting

This video is from 2 construction workers who were 50 feet away from the
shooting when it happened.  Notice the reaction these guys had and what they
were saying.  Their testimony corroborates what witnesses have been saying
all along...that officer Wilson shot an unarmed teenager that was posing no
threat to him, without warning and without reason.


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RE: Pistorious not guilty of murder

2014-09-11 Thread Eric Roberts

Amazing...

-Original Message-
From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 1:03 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Pistorious not guilty of murder


Wow...justwow.

On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 8:09 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote:


 What the hell!!?

 The guy shot his girlfriend 4 times in the bathroom!! He didn't even 
 see her, he shot through the door, they were the only ones in the room!

 How the hell is this not murder!??


 http://gawker.com/judge-oscar-pistorius-did-not-intentionally-kill-his
 -g-1633392801

 So it drops to possible manslaughter, which has no minimum sentencing. 
 He could get probation, or a fine.

 He cut someone off in the prime of their lives over most possibly an 
 argument or his insecurity or some nonsense like that.

 I'm really surprised at the verdict. And after the judge said he was 
 an unreliable witness, and wasn't truthful in many instances. So she 
 is saying she KNOWS he's lying !


 



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RE: he had his fuc*%ng hands up

2014-09-11 Thread Eric Roberts

The evidence was inconclusive...the autopsy showed that it could have been
from the back or the front with the way the bullet entered the skull.

-Original Message-
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 1:16 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: he had his fuc*%ng hands up


They also said he was running away and got shot in the back of his head. We
know based on the autopsy all shots came from the front. I think we need
more evidence before we can judge this case.

.

On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:25 AM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote:

 So some news on the Mike Brown shooting.

 Multiple on site witnesses saying he had his hands up, people on video 
 He was no threat at all.

 http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/crime/new-eyewitness-testimony-
 maintains-michael-brown-had-his-hands-when-he-was-killed





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RE: he had his fuc*%ng hands up

2014-09-11 Thread Eric Roberts

Their story matches most of the witnesses and the evidence...the only
witness it didn't match was a friend of the police officer.

-Original Message-
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 1:24 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: he had his fuc*%ng hands up


Yes, investigate as a possible homicide. But like I said, the story doesn't
match other witnesses or autopsy results. I agree It is damning, but not
conclusive.

.

On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 2:20 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think it should be investigated as a homicide at good point.

 The two videos on that page err in the second following the shooting 
 and they are saying he didn't attack, was no threat, hands up.

 They watched it happen.
 On Sep 11, 2014 2:16 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:


 They also said he was running away and got shot in the back of his 
 head. We know based on the autopsy all shots came from the front. I 
 think we need more evidence before we can judge this case.

 .




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RE: he had his fuc*%ng hands up

2014-09-11 Thread Eric Roberts

Now there is something we can agree on.

-Original Message-
From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 1:30 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: he had his fuc*%ng hands up


I'm not one for media trials.

I think every officer involved shooting should be investigated as a crime
first until cleared, I don't see that happening here.

The department in question has been damning Brown since hours after his
shooting, even releasing false and misleading information.
On Sep 11, 2014 2:24 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:


 Yes, investigate as a possible homicide. But like I said, the story 
 doesn't match other witnesses or autopsy results. I agree It is 
 damning, but not conclusive.

 .

 On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 2:20 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I think it should be investigated as a homicide at good point.
 
  The two videos on that page err in the second following the shooting 
  and they are saying he didn't attack, was no threat, hands up.
 
  They watched it happen.
  On Sep 11, 2014 2:16 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  They also said he was running away and got shot in the back of his 
  head. We know based on the autopsy all shots came from the front. I 
  think we need more evidence before we can judge this case.
 
  .
 

 



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RE: New video in the Ferguson shooting...

2014-09-11 Thread Eric Roberts

Exactly...that is the only reason they released the video of the incident at
the store, which had absolutely nothing to do with the shooting.  The cop
wasn't even aware that anything had happened at the store yet.  That was
pure character assassination of the victim so the police could enact a
coverup.  With the exception of the cop's friend, everyone else's testimony
lined up with what we see in that video...

-Original Message-
From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 3:23 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: New video in the Ferguson shooting...


That entire police department seems to have been dirty.

The fact that they used PR, misdirection to try to deflect an investigation
and questions suggests guilt.




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RE: New video in the Ferguson shooting...

2014-09-11 Thread Eric Roberts

Had it not been for the public outcry and all of the attention brought to
this, no...i don't think they would have.  It would have been swept under
the rug like so many other murders of African Americans by the police.

-Original Message-
From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 3:30 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: New video in the Ferguson shooting...


If that is the case, then the independent departments that are investigating
the case will eventually bring murder charges against the police
officerwill they not?

SO let's wait and see.

On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote:


 That entire police department seems to have been dirty.

 The fact that they used PR, misdirection to try to deflect an 
 investigation and questions suggests guilt.


 



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RE: Ray Rice

2014-09-10 Thread Eric Roberts

Not when you are a public figure.  He makes money by being in the spotlight.
If it was you or me, then yeah, you would have some ground to stand on with
this argument.  But this guy is a public figure and shit like this comes
with the job.  If you do something in public, it get publicized.  If that is
not what he wants, then he should get a regular job like the rest of us
schleps.

I don't know about you, but I have never punched any of my wives or
girlfriends in the face and knocked them out...no matter how pissed I was at
them and no matter what they did to me.  I have even been told I have anger
issues and I have never done this to anyone...ever.  So no...that is not
normal.  I don't know what twisted world you live in where that is normal,
but if that is, then I don't know what to say.  Using violence against
someone is inexcusable.  It was inexcusable when she did it and it was
inexcusable when he did it.  It doesn't matter if she hit him first or not.
I still think they should both be prosecuted, but I am not privy to the info
prosecutors have and maybe they have a good reason as to why charges against
her were dropped.

-Original Message-
From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 7:31 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Ray Rice


Scott, families have a right to privacy as well.
And couples have disagreements, sometimes violent.
SLaps, kicks, pushes, plates thrown, cups thrown.. what world do you live in
if you have never seen this happen?

It doesn't reach the point of hospital visits, or getting knocked out, or
anything of the sort.
There is a difference.

I didn't see anyone accusing Ellen of being a serial abuser when she grabbed
a 9 iron and tried to brain tiger woods with it, then raced after his
fleeing car and smashed the windscreen.

Fact is the wife has spoken out again in a rage and told all the do gooders
, and those that claim they want to help her to leave her alone, she isn't
in danger or trouble and doesn't need help. She said that she and Rice had
issues, and they worked them out and are working them out, and all the
public and media is doing is destroying him and their family.

But I forgot, women are like 12 year old kids who can't make decisions, or
take responsibility for their actions.
This woman in particular needs the media, you and the rest of the world to
tell her what to do, and what to think, and how to behave since you have all
labelled her a broken battered person who needs the state to care for her.

I find that offensive.
Because you have zero information to support that position, so far no one
does.

No one has respected this woman, her rights or her privacy.
She and Rice have been used for ratings and to make money. Their situation
has been exploited.

If TMZ wanted to help, they could have quietly called her and spoken to her,
rather than splashed that video for the world to see.
If the NFL wanted to do anything but protect its name and its image they
could have sent people to speak to BOTH of them, trained professionals, to
find out what the hell was going on with its player and his family life.

No one wants to help, and no one cares whether help is needed or not. This
is about money at this point.

And I find it ridiculous that so many are pretending it is about the woman.
It isn't. It never was.

TMZ has just made millions from a domestic dispute between a husband and
wife, and ruined both their lives in the process.

Somehow, this is a win for human and civil rights, the women's rights
movement, a win against domestic violence, and a feel good moment for many
people who can pat themselves on the back and say to themselves 
Yes..Justice has been done Or  At least this poor woman won't go through
what I went through (nevermind they have no damned clue if she's going
through anything at all).

Ridiculous.

On 10 September 2014 08:11, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote:


 You don't see that by saying '...if his soon-to-be wife hadn't 
 assaulted him, he never would have struck back.' You are essentially 
 saying, 'she deserved it' or 'she was asking for it'? Maybe if she 
 stayed in the kitchen making him sandwiches, non of this would have
happened, right Rick?

 Typical, misogynistic bullshit.



 On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:20 AM, Rick Faircloth 
 r...@whitestonemedia.com
 
 wrote:

 
  You're absolute right, Scott. Actions have consequences. EVERYONE'S 
  action have consequences.
  Even a woman's actions can have consequences. Typical women are 
  never at fault for anything and men are the cause of all trouble in 
  the world feminism.
 
  I'll bet that if his soon-to-be wife hadn't assaulted him, he never 
  would have struck back.
 
  That's a safe bet that I'll take.
 
 
  On 9/10/2014 12:03 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
   I would say that he caused the problem the moment he decided that
  punching
   his soon-to-be wife in the face was the best way to respond to the 
   situation.
  
   There is no one else to blame 

RE: Ray Rice

2014-09-10 Thread Eric Roberts

 And the charges were dropped against his wife because she was knocked out
AND because she's a woman. The charges would NOT have been dropped if she
had been a male friend of Ray's and they got into a fight.

Proof?  You can claim that all you like, but unless you have proof of that
it is just you rambling on.  You are also on the outside looking in and
claiming special knowledge oh mighty kettle...

-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 8:25 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Ray Rice


Bull, Eric.

Being a public figure is not Eric's doing; it's the public's!  No one asked
to make him to be a role model! Thousands of people make money off of Eric;
some millions.
Just because he becomes a role model (when he shouldn't) doesn't make
anything he does more or less worse than any other person.

And the charges were dropped against his wife because she was knocked out
AND because she's a woman. The charges would NOT have been dropped if she
had been a male friend of Ray's and they got into a fight.

Just go ahead a join the chorus of those who know best from the outside
looking in and destroy the lives of these people because mistakes were make
on both their parts.

PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY! She shouldn't have started it and Ray should have
ended it in the way he did.

I tried to unsubscribe on the House of Fusion site last night because being
part of this discussion, and others, is a waste of time and non-productive. 
Apparently, the unsubscribe
didn't take.

This is all ridiculous.


On 9/10/2014 8:53 AM, Eric Roberts wrote:
 Not when you are a public figure.  He makes money by being in the
spotlight.
 If it was you or me, then yeah, you would have some ground to stand on 
 with this argument.  But this guy is a public figure and shit like 
 this comes with the job.  If you do something in public, it get 
 publicized.  If that is not what he wants, then he should get a 
 regular job like the rest of us schleps.

 I don't know about you, but I have never punched any of my wives or 
 girlfriends in the face and knocked them out...no matter how pissed I 
 was at them and no matter what they did to me.  I have even been told 
 I have anger issues and I have never done this to anyone...ever.  So 
 no...that is not normal.  I don't know what twisted world you live in 
 where that is normal, but if that is, then I don't know what to say.  
 Using violence against someone is inexcusable.  It was inexcusable 
 when she did it and it was inexcusable when he did it.  It doesn't matter
if she hit him first or not.
 I still think they should both be prosecuted, but I am not privy to 
 the info prosecutors have and maybe they have a good reason as to why 
 charges against her were dropped.

 -Original Message-
 From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 7:31 AM
 To: cf-community
 Subject: Re: Ray Rice


 Scott, families have a right to privacy as well.
 And couples have disagreements, sometimes violent.
 SLaps, kicks, pushes, plates thrown, cups thrown.. what world do you 
 live in if you have never seen this happen?

 It doesn't reach the point of hospital visits, or getting knocked out, 
 or anything of the sort.
 There is a difference.

 I didn't see anyone accusing Ellen of being a serial abuser when she 
 grabbed a 9 iron and tried to brain tiger woods with it, then raced 
 after his fleeing car and smashed the windscreen.

 Fact is the wife has spoken out again in a rage and told all the do 
 gooders , and those that claim they want to help her to leave her 
 alone, she isn't in danger or trouble and doesn't need help. She said 
 that she and Rice had issues, and they worked them out and are working 
 them out, and all the public and media is doing is destroying him and
their family.

 But I forgot, women are like 12 year old kids who can't make 
 decisions, or take responsibility for their actions.
 This woman in particular needs the media, you and the rest of the 
 world to tell her what to do, and what to think, and how to behave 
 since you have all labelled her a broken battered person who needs the
state to care for her.

 I find that offensive.
 Because you have zero information to support that position, so far no 
 one does.

 No one has respected this woman, her rights or her privacy.
 She and Rice have been used for ratings and to make money. Their 
 situation has been exploited.

 If TMZ wanted to help, they could have quietly called her and spoken 
 to her, rather than splashed that video for the world to see.
 If the NFL wanted to do anything but protect its name and its image 
 they could have sent people to speak to BOTH of them, trained 
 professionals, to find out what the hell was going on with its player and
his family life.

 No one wants to help, and no one cares whether help is needed or not. 
 This is about money at this point.

 And I find it ridiculous that so many

RE: Ray Rice

2014-09-10 Thread Eric Roberts

That was Scott...but I do concur.  I do not know why they released her and
dropped the charges.  Maybe they know something we don't know.  To say you
know, unless you were there, is bullshit.  I am assuming they had good
reason to drop the charges.  We don't know the entire situation.  Maybe that
slap was her trying to defend herself...we don't know.  All we can see is
the small segment recorded by the elevator cam.  

-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 8:31 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Ray Rice


Wrong, Eric!

Ray is responsible for his actions. HOWEVER, the woman is responsible for
hers!

I'm just trying to get you to see the double-standard we have in this
society.
Woman want equality, but don't want the responsibility that comes with it!

If woman want equality, then the law has be to blind to gender. The
exception being in cases where gender plays a crucial factor such as in
rape. 
Woman can't hide behind
their gender when it's convenient and then play the gender card when they
lose!

Or, in this case, society should stop playing the gender card for them!


On 9/10/2014 9:25 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
 This 'what if' game is stupid. I did not 'attack' Ray Rice. A man did 
 not 'attack' Ray Rice. No one 'attacked' Ray Rice.

 Let's play the reality game. He punched his fiance in the face and, 
 subsequently, she was knocked unconscious and you are trying to 
 justify his actions because you think she deserved it.



 On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Rick Faircloth 
 r...@whitestonemedia.com
 wrote:

 Scott, if you attacked Ray, and Ray knocked you out. Is Ray solely to 
 blame for you being knocked out? Or would you say that your bear some 
 responsibility for provoking Ray?


 On 9/10/2014 8:11 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
 You don't see that by saying '...if his soon-to-be wife hadn't 
 assaulted him, he never would have struck back.' You are essentially 
 saying, 'she deserved it' or 'she was asking for it'? Maybe if she 
 stayed in the
 kitchen
 making him sandwiches, non of this would have happened, right Rick?

 Typical, misogynistic bullshit.



 On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:20 AM, Rick Faircloth 
 r...@whitestonemedia.com
 wrote:

 You're absolute right, Scott. Actions have consequences. EVERYONE'S 
 action have consequences.
 Even a woman's actions can have consequences. Typical women are 
 never at fault for anything and men are the cause of all trouble in 
 the world feminism.

 I'll bet that if his soon-to-be wife hadn't assaulted him, he never 
 would have struck back.

 That's a safe bet that I'll take.


 On 9/10/2014 12:03 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
 I would say that he caused the problem the moment he decided that
 punching
 his soon-to-be wife in the face was the best way to respond to the 
 situation.

 There is no one else to blame but him. He threw the punch - no one
 else.
 Actions have consequences, it is about time some of these 
 professional athletes realize that.

 On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 10:42 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote:

 Scott, let's say your omniscience is wrong.

 And a month or two, or more from now it comes out that they were 
 a
 couple
 that had problems,
 but there was no ongoing domestic abuse. They were working things 
 out,
 and
 then this came along and ruined everything for them.

 What would you say then?

 On 9 September 2014 22:13, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote:

 The media did not destroy a family... Ray Rice did, the moment 
 he
 decided
 the best course of action to resolve the situation was to punch 
 his soon-to-be wife in the face.

 I mentioned on Facebook, she is practically a textbook case of
 someone
 who
 is abused. Letting them 'sort out their problems' may result in 
 her
 death
 (or his if she decides she is tired of being abused). The 
 biggest red
 flag
 is that she has blamed every one, including herself, except for 
 the
 person
 who the the punch.

 Do yourself a favor and go on Twitter and search for #WhyIStayed 
 to
 get a
 glimpse of what some victims of abuse go through and what their 
 state
 of
 mind is/was.
 On Sep 9, 2014 9:32 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yeah, I know what you meant.
 But the comparison  you can't make a comparison like that.

 And I don't see anything wrong with my view that
 A) his actions were disproportionate
 B) It was an altercation between two adults
 C) they were both to blame for what happened.
 D) The intervention of the media did nothing to help the 
 couple or
 their
 situation
 E) Since February there has not been any other reports of 
 domestic
 violence
 at all.
 F) There is just not enough evidence at all to say that in that
 couple's
 relationship there was a history of violence on either side.

 They were in a Casino, she was stumbling to the elevator, they 
 were probably both very drunk.
 This isn't an excuse for either of them, but the entire 
 situation
 needs
 to
 be viewed objectively.
 Remove 

Ashkenazi genome...

2014-09-10 Thread Eric Roberts

Hey Michael Dinowitz.this might be of interest to you.
http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/40956/title/Jewish-Her
itage-Written-in-DNA/

 

Eric



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RE: Ray Rice

2014-09-10 Thread Eric Roberts

It's not going to happen when they or at least one of them is a celebrity.
So that is a moot point.  

-Original Message-
From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 9:21 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Ray Rice


The point is not that what Rice did was right, normal or anything else.
The point is that this was and should have remained a private, personal
issue between two ADULTs!

Since when do you get to make decisions for an adult woman who is in a
relationship with a man?
WITH ZERO evidence that man is abusive towards her on an ongoing basis!??

What right do you have to diminish her mental capability, her being able to
think and make decisions for herself, based on your assumption that she is a
battered woman?

Don't you see that point?


On 10 September 2014 08:53, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
wrote:


 I don't know what twisted world you live in where that is normal, but 
 if that is, then I don't know what to say.




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RE: New home

2014-09-10 Thread Eric Roberts

Congrats on the new place...I was homeless for a bout 6 months when I lived
in Louisiana...luckily it good camping weather there year round ;-)  IT's no
fun

-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:mdino...@houseoffusion.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 4:54 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: New home


After being essentially homeless for the last 13 months I can now say that
I've got a new home. It's not exactly where I want to be but I think it's
where I'm meant to be for some reason. I'm still renting and while the rent
is almost double what I was paying, I now have 9 rooms with 5 being bedrooms
(one of which is a guest room).
The only problem is that the house is located in a bump on the tail end of
nowhere (almost literally) and I don't have a car (yet).
The new address is 1478 Granada Place in Far Rockaway NY. If you look at it
in google maps you'll see what I mean about bump/tail. :)

In all the time looking for a new apartment I was essentially doing all of
my work on an old lenovo laptop that Clark Valberg gave me years ago. Even
now that I'm back on my more powerful desktop I see how far behind I am
hardware wise. Now all I have to do is get projects done, get paid, and
convince my wife and kids that the car can wait an extra month or two as I
upgrade to that 70 wall mounted TV for my new monitor. ;)




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RE: Bowing out

2014-09-10 Thread Eric Roberts

Exactly...I would do the same.

-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:mdino...@houseoffusion.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 6:38 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Bowing out


You should have a Refuah Shelama (a complete healing). I hope you're just
avoiding the political threads rather than bowing out of the list in
general.
On a related note, I'm rather impressed with our members on the whole. We
can and do fight like cats and dogs but I've seen people of opposing
viewpoints meet on some issues and have seen people who would kill each
other on one issue be able to put it totally aside when the issue wasn't
being discussed.

I'll point to Eric on this. We're of extremely different viewpoints on a
certain subject and can get downright nasty with each other when that
subject comes up but any other time we're not only civil but friendly. If he
needed me for something I'd be there to the best of my ability without any
hesitation. I think that this is a general assessment of the list members as
a whole.

But yes, some topics are just fodder for hard discussion, have the
attractive power of a black hole, and it can be tiring in the extreme.
Better to save the energy and heal.


On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 6:18 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote:


 I have  extreme views on some issues and I rarely expect people to 
 agree with me on those views.  However, it would nice to be able to 
 discuss them without being labeled or attacked.

 Not sure that will ever happen here, so I'm just going to bow out of 
 the politics. The friendships I have made here are more important to 
 me than having a forum for expressing my political views.

 I've been dealing with some serious medical issues, I feel very frail 
 and old, and I no longer have the energy to share space - even virtual 
 space - with those whose behavior toward me feels threatening.

 I guess this means the attack cadre has won the battle for the list.
 Too bad, because it has been fun sharing ideas and opinions over the 
 years.

 Love to you all.  I will miss (most of) you.

 Mama Maureen

 



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RE: New home

2014-09-10 Thread Eric Roberts

Lol...I finally found a friend that would take me in and help me get on my
feet...i got my shit together and got back to school.  It hasn't happened
again since.

-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:mdino...@houseoffusion.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 6:43 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: New home


I spent 7 months with my parents then 6 months with my mother-in-law (long
story why the switch). Camping would have been more fun and I'm passionately
against sleeping on the cold, hard earth again. I camped when I was a kid
when I lived up in New Hampshire and when I went to summer camp. That's
enough nature for me. Pass the soilent green.

On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Eric Roberts 
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote:


 Congrats on the new place...I was homeless for a bout 6 months when I 
 lived in Louisiana...luckily it good camping weather there year round 
 ;-)  IT's no fun

 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:mdino...@houseoffusion.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 4:54 PM
 To: cf-community
 Subject: New home


 After being essentially homeless for the last 13 months I can now say 
 that I've got a new home. It's not exactly where I want to be but I 
 think it's where I'm meant to be for some reason. I'm still renting 
 and while the rent is almost double what I was paying, I now have 9 
 rooms with 5 being bedrooms (one of which is a guest room).
 The only problem is that the house is located in a bump on the tail 
 end of nowhere (almost literally) and I don't have a car (yet).
 The new address is 1478 Granada Place in Far Rockaway NY. If you look 
 at it in google maps you'll see what I mean about bump/tail. :)

 In all the time looking for a new apartment I was essentially doing 
 all of my work on an old lenovo laptop that Clark Valberg gave me 
 years ago. Even now that I'm back on my more powerful desktop I see 
 how far behind I am hardware wise. Now all I have to do is get 
 projects done, get paid, and convince my wife and kids that the car 
 can wait an extra month or two as I upgrade to that 70 wall mounted 
 TV for my new monitor. ;)




 



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RE: Bowing out

2014-09-10 Thread Eric Roberts

Ignored ;-)

-Original Message-
From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 8:18 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Bowing out


And that was meant to be sent directly to Michael, so please ignore it.



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RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-09 Thread Eric Roberts

False...
http://www.occasionalplanet.org/2014/02/06/how-the-media-went-wrong-on-the-cbo-obamacare-report/

-Original Message-
From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:33 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: RE: Democrats set to lose the senate


*Health-care law will prompt over 2 million to quit jobs or cut hours, a CBO 
report says*

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/cbo-botched-health-care-law-rollout-will-reduce-signups-by-1-million-people/2014/02/04/c78577d0-8dac-11e3-98ab-fe5228217bd1_story.html

100 Unintended Consequences of
http://m.nationalreview.com/article/359861/100-unintended-consequences-obamacare-andrew-johnson
Obamacare
http://m.nationalreview.com/article/359861/100-unintended-consequences-obamacare-andrew-johnson

Companies, workers, retirees, students, and spouses all suffer from the 
law’s inflexible mandates.
On Sep 8, 2014 11:28 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote:

 I said no such thing
 On Sep 8, 2014 11:27 PM, Eric Roberts 
 ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
 wrote:


 Weren't you also saying that the ACA mandated chips to be implanted 
 in everyone?  See the pattern here...

 -Original Message-
 From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:21 PM
 To: cf-community
 Subject: RE: Democrats set to lose the senate


 minimally-invasive neurotechnologies
 On Sep 8, 2014 11:19 PM, Eric Roberts 
 ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
 wrote:

 
  Outside of nutcase websites, I don't see anything referring to 
  brain implants...
 
  -Original Message-
  From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:05 PM
  To: cf-community
  Subject: RE: Democrats set to lose the senate
 
 
  Dude I shit you not it's in the Whitehouse site and they themselves 
  emailed me about it:
 
 
  http://m.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/08/26/fact-sheet-pres
  ide nt-obama-announces-new-executive-actions-fulfill-our-p
 
  *Continuing our Commitment to Improve Treatments for Mental Health 
  Conditions including PTSD. *In support of the National Research 
  Action Plan on military and veteran’s mental health, the 
  DoD 
  and the National Institutes of Health are launching a longitudinal 
  project focused on the early detection of suicidality, PTSD, and 
  long term effects of TBI, and other related issues in service 
  members and veterans. VA is launching a
  $34.4 million suicide prevention study involving 1800 veterans at 
  29 VA hospitals. In support of the President’s BRAIN 
  Initiative, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) 
  is announcing a new $78.9 million research program to develop 
  minimally-invasive neurotechnologies that may help treat many diseases, 
  including PTSD.
  In addition, the White House announced that this fall it will host 
  the White House BRAIN conference, including a focus on PTSD and TBI.
  On Sep 8, 2014 10:44 PM, Eric Roberts
  ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
  wrote:
 
  
   Obama is hardly a hardcore liberal...he is a moderate 
   conservative at
  best.
   Brain implant chips?  Seriously Tim?
  
   -Original Message-
   From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
   Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 9:08 PM
   To: cf-community
   Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate
  
  
   There is a hardcore liberal didn't running roughshod over the 
   consortium in the white house right now.
  
   Have you seem some I'd the attempted gun control legislation?
  
   Don't forget chairman Obama's recent decree to give vets brain 
   implant chips, which it turns out haven't even been human tested yet.
  
   In post racial America we can.t have another Tuskegee, so we'll 
   go to the new second class for test subjects.
  
   I mean dangerous veterans should be controlled.
  
   If they think after paxil and larium and anthrax and small pox, 
   and giving me mrsa that I'm going to let them implant shit in my 
   head.
   On Sep 8, 2014 9:58 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote:
  
   
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Rick Faircloth 
r...@whitestonemedia.com
wrote:
   

 That's nonsense, Judah... at least the House votes and passes
 bills.

   
You mean the double digit votes to repeal the Affordable Care Act?
   
   
 Wouldn't it be smarter for Reid to bring up bills for a vote, 
 pass them (if he could), and then force the House to have to 
 wrestle with a bill?

   
No, that wouldn't be smarter, for the reasons I already stated.
Please pay attention.
   
   
 Reid is only trying to protect his senators by making sure 
 they don't have to take a vote, show their stripes, and be 
 held accountable by a public that has soured on all things 
 democrat, including Obama with a 38% approval rating.


Except that Republicans have an even worse (by far) approval 
rating than Democrats

RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-09 Thread Eric Roberts

Yeah he ran as a compassionate conservative...but that was where that
ended.  Compassionate conservative is an oxymoron.

So those who have more money pay more money...so?

I can't find anything comparing Holder to other DOJ's...if you have some
links...

Yeah...as I said...he is liberal on the social issues for the most part, but
everything else, he has pretty much continued Bush policies.  It's been a
major bone of contention amongst my fellow progressives.

There really hasn't been a whole done in regards to income
redistribution...that is a conservative boogeyman and Fox news seems to like
to throw out there, but I really don't see a whole lot going on in that
area.  Welfare services have been cut back when they were needed the most.
The only income redistribution that has really been going on is for the rich
and all of the new tax breaks/continuation of old ones that were supposed to
expire.  We have tons of money for tax breaks, but yet we have to cut food
stamps and military pay?  That is a Bush move...

The federal government is smaller under Obama than it was under any other
president...

http://www.aei-ideas.org/2012/09/has-government-employment-really-increased-
under-obama/
http://money.msn.com/now/post.aspx?post=a4602806-9a56-4980-91fd-71334748a79b
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/05/24/who-is-the-smallest-governm
ent-spender-since-eisenhower-would-you-believe-its-barack-obama/


-Original Message-
From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:chumph...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 11:17 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate


On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:36 PM, Eric Roberts 
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote:

 He pretty much continued all of Bush's policies.  The only liberal 
 part of his polices has been what the has done for the LGBTQ Community 
 and maybe the equal pay for women bills.  Other than that, he turned 
 out to be not much different than Bush, with the exception of being a 
 bit more prudent about sending our troops into harm's way.


For some things you're absolutely right... I found this a funny compilation
http://www.buzzfeed.com/bennyjohnson/things-democrats-would-have-freaked-out
-about-if-bush-had-do#289ccxl

* HOWEVER *
Bush ran as a compassionate conservative for the 2000 election... I don't
recall if his tone changed in 2004 but then again I don't think it had to
given his competition.

Why I still call BS even though some policies have continued under Obama:
* The Affordable Care Act - This is a taxpayer funded healthcare management
system that requires Americans to purchase a product or be penalized by a
federal agency.  It further directs and defines services provided to
americans and mandates employer level contributions to plans.  It also
creates penalties for high-end cadillac plans and increases FICA medicare
taxes for those that make above a certain level (there is a 0.09% FICA
Medicare surcharge for those making in excess of $200,000).  All these
combine to create a larger federal governmental structure that is stronger
and more insinuated in the daily lives of citizens.
* The actions of Eric Holder - The Holder Department of Justice has been
more litigious than any that I can recall
* Ardent support of policy changes for social issues such as minimum wage,
abortion (including parental consent) and LGBT issues (yeah, I know you
mentioned that).
* Speeches that directly support income redistribution

There are more but unfortunately I have to end it there due to the time.
 My point is this:  It's not in his similarity to Bush that makes him a
moderate conservative (wow, there's a term that doesn't exist) but in the
actions he has taken to directly grow the size of the federal government,
create dependencies on it and lessen the power of the individual states
through the same fiscal tactics that brought about the 55 mile per hour
speed limit.  Those are not conservative goals or ideals, they are the
opposite.


Until Later!
C. Hatton Humphrey
http://www.eastcoastconservative.com

Every cloud does have a silver lining.  Sometimes you just have to do some
smelting to find it.




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RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-09 Thread Eric Roberts

Then why is it that the bulk of the people on welfare programs are
conservatives?  Red states consume more way more welfare dollars than blue
states do.

-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 10:23 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate


Let's start with 'personal responsibility'.

Liberals have abused the generosity of the American Public to the point that
welfare is now a way of life for half our population.


On 9/9/2014 11:11 AM, William Bowen wrote:
 mmm... excellent bogeymen all...

 Rick, it was your initial statement, care to elaborate on your 
 American values?




 On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:07 AM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Slavery, spousal abuse and firing invasion seen to be common threads.
 On Sep 9, 2014 11:02 AM, William Bowen william.bo...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's time to fight for American values and virtue and not surrender 
 this nation to those who would only destroy it.
 And what precisely, pray tell, are these American values?


 --
 will

 If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would 
 just be unacceptable.
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RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-09 Thread Eric Roberts

It's irrelevant why...the fact is conservatives use more welfare than
liberals do.  It's not, as Herr Rick is claiming, that liberals are abusing
the generosity of Americans...that would be conservatives.

-Original Message-
From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 11:02 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: RE: Democrats set to lose the senate


Because they are older and in areas that were more heavily hit by the loss
of our industrial sector.
On Sep 9, 2014 11:49 AM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
wrote:


 Then why is it that the bulk of the people on welfare programs are 
 conservatives?  Red states consume more way more welfare dollars than 
 blue states do.

 -Original Message-
 From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 10:23 AM
 To: cf-community
 Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate


 Let's start with 'personal responsibility'.

 Liberals have abused the generosity of the American Public to the 
 point that welfare is now a way of life for half our population.


 On 9/9/2014 11:11 AM, William Bowen wrote:
  mmm... excellent bogeymen all...
 
  Rick, it was your initial statement, care to elaborate on your 
  American values?
 
 
 
 
  On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:07 AM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Slavery, spousal abuse and firing invasion seen to be common threads.
  On Sep 9, 2014 11:02 AM, William Bowen william.bo...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  It's time to fight for American values and virtue and not 
  surrender this nation to those who would only destroy it.
  And what precisely, pray tell, are these American values?
 
 
  --
  will
 
  If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would 
  just be unacceptable.
  - Carrie Fisher
 
 
 
 
 



 



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RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-09 Thread Eric Roberts

Only conservatives include Social Security in welfare...so no...that is not
part of that number.

-Original Message-
From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 12:33 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: RE: Democrats set to lose the senate


The inclusion of social security next to welfare inflates the number to
prove your point is what I'm saying.
On Sep 9, 2014 1:15 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
wrote:


 It's irrelevant why...the fact is conservatives use more welfare than 
 liberals do.  It's not, as Herr Rick is claiming, that liberals are 
 abusing the generosity of Americans...that would be conservatives.

 -Original Message-
 From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 11:02 AM
 To: cf-community
 Subject: RE: Democrats set to lose the senate


 Because they are older and in areas that were more heavily hit by the 
 loss of our industrial sector.
 On Sep 9, 2014 11:49 AM, Eric Roberts 
 ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
 wrote:

 
  Then why is it that the bulk of the people on welfare programs are 
  conservatives?  Red states consume more way more welfare dollars 
  than blue states do.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 10:23 AM
  To: cf-community
  Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate
 
 
  Let's start with 'personal responsibility'.
 
  Liberals have abused the generosity of the American Public to the 
  point that welfare is now a way of life for half our population.
 
 
  On 9/9/2014 11:11 AM, William Bowen wrote:
   mmm... excellent bogeymen all...
  
   Rick, it was your initial statement, care to elaborate on your 
   American values?
  
  
  
  
   On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:07 AM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   Slavery, spousal abuse and firing invasion seen to be common threads.
   On Sep 9, 2014 11:02 AM, William Bowen 
   william.bo...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
   It's time to fight for American values and virtue and not 
   surrender this nation to those who would only destroy it.
   And what precisely, pray tell, are these American values?
  
  
   --
   will
  
   If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would 
   just be unacceptable.
   - Carrie Fisher
  
  
  
  
  
 
 
 
 



 



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RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-09 Thread Eric Roberts

Some...yes...many...no.

-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 12:36 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate


I have never claimed that utilizing welfare is inherently wrong. Can you
quote me stating that, Herr Eric? And do you deny that many on the welfare
rolls are abusing said rolls, Herr Eric?


On 9/9/2014 1:14 PM, Eric Roberts wrote:
 It's irrelevant why...the fact is conservatives use more welfare than 
 liberals do.  It's not, as Herr Rick is claiming, that liberals are 
 abusing the generosity of Americans...that would be conservatives.

 -Original Message-
 From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 11:02 AM
 To: cf-community
 Subject: RE: Democrats set to lose the senate


 Because they are older and in areas that were more heavily hit by the 
 loss of our industrial sector.
 On Sep 9, 2014 11:49 AM, Eric Roberts 
 ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
 wrote:

 Then why is it that the bulk of the people on welfare programs are 
 conservatives?  Red states consume more way more welfare dollars than 
 blue states do.

 -Original Message-
 From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 10:23 AM
 To: cf-community
 Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate


 Let's start with 'personal responsibility'.

 Liberals have abused the generosity of the American Public to the 
 point that welfare is now a way of life for half our population.


 On 9/9/2014 11:11 AM, William Bowen wrote:
 mmm... excellent bogeymen all...

 Rick, it was your initial statement, care to elaborate on your 
 American values?




 On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:07 AM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Slavery, spousal abuse and firing invasion seen to be common threads.
 On Sep 9, 2014 11:02 AM, William Bowen william.bo...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 It's time to fight for American values and virtue and not 
 surrender this nation to those who would only destroy it.
 And what precisely, pray tell, are these American values?


 --
 will

 If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would 
 just be unacceptable.
 - Carrie Fisher








 



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RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-09 Thread Eric Roberts

Lets see the proof that many do Rick...you made the initial claim...

8.7% BTW...that is not many...

http://federalsafetynet.com/welfare-fraud.html

Here's one state's results of it's search for wefare fraud...

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/01/08/3136631/lepage-welfare/

Here's another that says its 2-3%

http://www.roanen.com/presidential-thoughts-blog/how-much-is-welfare-fraud-c
osting-us

Here's another at 2%

http://spritzophrenia.wordpress.com/2011/01/04/how-bad-is-welfare-fraud-in-t
he-usa/

Sounds to me like it is more like some than many.  Yes ther are people
abusing it...there always will be...but the bulk of the people are not
abusing it and are people that really need it.

Eric
-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 1:09 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate


Then, let's see the evidence, Herr Eric.

Provide the quote.

(And by the way, your some...yes...many...no response doesn't line up with
my questions and makes little sense.)


On 9/9/2014 2:02 PM, Eric Roberts wrote:
 Some...yes...many...no.

 -Original Message-
 From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 12:36 PM
 To: cf-community
 Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate


 I have never claimed that utilizing welfare is inherently wrong. Can 
 you quote me stating that, Herr Eric? And do you deny that many on the 
 welfare rolls are abusing said rolls, Herr Eric?


 On 9/9/2014 1:14 PM, Eric Roberts wrote:
 It's irrelevant why...the fact is conservatives use more welfare than 
 liberals do.  It's not, as Herr Rick is claiming, that liberals are 
 abusing the generosity of Americans...that would be conservatives.

 -Original Message-
 From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 11:02 AM
 To: cf-community
 Subject: RE: Democrats set to lose the senate


 Because they are older and in areas that were more heavily hit by the 
 loss of our industrial sector.
 On Sep 9, 2014 11:49 AM, Eric Roberts
 ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
 wrote:

 Then why is it that the bulk of the people on welfare programs are 
 conservatives?  Red states consume more way more welfare dollars 
 than blue states do.

 -Original Message-
 From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 10:23 AM
 To: cf-community
 Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate


 Let's start with 'personal responsibility'.

 Liberals have abused the generosity of the American Public to the 
 point that welfare is now a way of life for half our population.


 On 9/9/2014 11:11 AM, William Bowen wrote:
 mmm... excellent bogeymen all...

 Rick, it was your initial statement, care to elaborate on your 
 American values?




 On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:07 AM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Slavery, spousal abuse and firing invasion seen to be common threads.
 On Sep 9, 2014 11:02 AM, William Bowen william.bo...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 It's time to fight for American values and virtue and not 
 surrender this nation to those who would only destroy it.
 And what precisely, pray tell, are these American values?


 --
 will

 If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would 
 just be unacceptable.
 - Carrie Fisher









 



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RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-09 Thread Eric Roberts

Some VA's do Tim...but this has nothing to do with welfare

-Original Message-
From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 3:52 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: RE: Democrats set to lose the senate


And the VA provides the best health services in the world..
On Sep 9, 2014 4:51 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
wrote:


 Lets see the proof that many do Rick...you made the initial claim...

 8.7% BTW...that is not many...

 http://federalsafetynet.com/welfare-fraud.html

 Here's one state's results of it's search for wefare fraud...

 http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/01/08/3136631/lepage-welfare/

 Here's another that says its 2-3%


 http://www.roanen.com/presidential-thoughts-blog/how-much-is-welfare-f
 raud-c
 osting-us

 Here's another at 2%


 http://spritzophrenia.wordpress.com/2011/01/04/how-bad-is-welfare-frau
 d-in-t
 he-usa/

 Sounds to me like it is more like some than many.  Yes ther are people 
 abusing it...there always will be...but the bulk of the people are not 
 abusing it and are people that really need it.

 Eric
 -Original Message-
 From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 1:09 PM
 To: cf-community
 Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate


 Then, let's see the evidence, Herr Eric.

 Provide the quote.

 (And by the way, your some...yes...many...no response doesn't line 
 up with my questions and makes little sense.)


 On 9/9/2014 2:02 PM, Eric Roberts wrote:
  Some...yes...many...no.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 12:36 PM
  To: cf-community
  Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate
 
 
  I have never claimed that utilizing welfare is inherently wrong. Can 
  you quote me stating that, Herr Eric? And do you deny that many on 
  the welfare rolls are abusing said rolls, Herr Eric?
 
 
  On 9/9/2014 1:14 PM, Eric Roberts wrote:
  It's irrelevant why...the fact is conservatives use more welfare 
  than liberals do.  It's not, as Herr Rick is claiming, that 
  liberals are abusing the generosity of Americans...that would be
conservatives.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 11:02 AM
  To: cf-community
  Subject: RE: Democrats set to lose the senate
 
 
  Because they are older and in areas that were more heavily hit by 
  the loss of our industrial sector.
  On Sep 9, 2014 11:49 AM, Eric Roberts
  ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
  wrote:
 
  Then why is it that the bulk of the people on welfare programs are 
  conservatives?  Red states consume more way more welfare dollars 
  than blue states do.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 10:23 AM
  To: cf-community
  Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate
 
 
  Let's start with 'personal responsibility'.
 
  Liberals have abused the generosity of the American Public to the 
  point that welfare is now a way of life for half our population.
 
 
  On 9/9/2014 11:11 AM, William Bowen wrote:
  mmm... excellent bogeymen all...
 
  Rick, it was your initial statement, care to elaborate on your 
  American values?
 
 
 
 
  On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:07 AM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Slavery, spousal abuse and firing invasion seen to be common
threads.
  On Sep 9, 2014 11:02 AM, William Bowen 
  william.bo...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  It's time to fight for American values and virtue and not 
  surrender this nation to those who would only destroy it.
  And what precisely, pray tell, are these American values?
 
 
  --
  will
 
  If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that 
  would just be unacceptable.
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RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-09 Thread Eric Roberts

LOL...most of those are not internal numbers...

-Original Message-
From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 4:34 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: RE: Democrats set to lose the senate


The comment was in relation to internal government studies and self
oversight.

Those numbers are a joke.
On Sep 9, 2014 5:24 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
wrote:


 Some VA's do Tim...but this has nothing to do with welfare

 -Original Message-
 From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 3:52 PM
 To: cf-community
 Subject: RE: Democrats set to lose the senate


 And the VA provides the best health services in the world..
 On Sep 9, 2014 4:51 PM, Eric Roberts 
 ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
 wrote:

 
  Lets see the proof that many do Rick...you made the initial claim...
 
  8.7% BTW...that is not many...
 
  http://federalsafetynet.com/welfare-fraud.html
 
  Here's one state's results of it's search for wefare fraud...
 
  http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/01/08/3136631/lepage-welfare/
 
  Here's another that says its 2-3%
 
 
  http://www.roanen.com/presidential-thoughts-blog/how-much-is-welfare
  -f
  raud-c
  osting-us
 
  Here's another at 2%
 
 
  http://spritzophrenia.wordpress.com/2011/01/04/how-bad-is-welfare-fr
  au
  d-in-t
  he-usa/
 
  Sounds to me like it is more like some than many.  Yes ther are 
  people abusing it...there always will be...but the bulk of the 
  people are not abusing it and are people that really need it.
 
  Eric
  -Original Message-
  From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 1:09 PM
  To: cf-community
  Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate
 
 
  Then, let's see the evidence, Herr Eric.
 
  Provide the quote.
 
  (And by the way, your some...yes...many...no response doesn't line 
  up with my questions and makes little sense.)
 
 
  On 9/9/2014 2:02 PM, Eric Roberts wrote:
   Some...yes...many...no.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com]
   Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 12:36 PM
   To: cf-community
   Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate
  
  
   I have never claimed that utilizing welfare is inherently wrong. 
   Can you quote me stating that, Herr Eric? And do you deny that 
   many on the welfare rolls are abusing said rolls, Herr Eric?
  
  
   On 9/9/2014 1:14 PM, Eric Roberts wrote:
   It's irrelevant why...the fact is conservatives use more welfare 
   than liberals do.  It's not, as Herr Rick is claiming, that 
   liberals are abusing the generosity of Americans...that would be
 conservatives.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
   Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 11:02 AM
   To: cf-community
   Subject: RE: Democrats set to lose the senate
  
  
   Because they are older and in areas that were more heavily hit by 
   the loss of our industrial sector.
   On Sep 9, 2014 11:49 AM, Eric Roberts
   ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
   wrote:
  
   Then why is it that the bulk of the people on welfare programs 
   are conservatives?  Red states consume more way more welfare 
   dollars than blue states do.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com]
   Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 10:23 AM
   To: cf-community
   Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate
  
  
   Let's start with 'personal responsibility'.
  
   Liberals have abused the generosity of the American Public to 
   the point that welfare is now a way of life for half our population.
  
  
   On 9/9/2014 11:11 AM, William Bowen wrote:
   mmm... excellent bogeymen all...
  
   Rick, it was your initial statement, care to elaborate on your 
   American values?
  
  
  
  
   On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:07 AM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  
   Slavery, spousal abuse and firing invasion seen to be common
 threads.
   On Sep 9, 2014 11:02 AM, William Bowen
   william.bo...@gmail.com
   wrote:
   It's time to fight for American values and virtue and not 
   surrender this nation to those who would only destroy it.
   And what precisely, pray tell, are these American values?
  
  
   --
   will
  
   If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that 
   would just be unacceptable.
   - Carrie Fisher
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
 
 
 



 



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RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-09 Thread Eric Roberts

Yeah...because there aren't a bunch of people still out of work and unable
to pay for food...right Tim...keep up the paranoia brother...show me the
proof...not just a paranoid I just know it is...

-Original Message-
From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 5:03 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: RE: Democrats set to lose the senate


And I'm telling you that at a minimum the food stamp program is corrupt as
hell.  These numbers are so far outside the norm if urban experience as to
be ridiculous.
On Sep 9, 2014 6:01 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
wrote:


 LOL...most of those are not internal numbers...

 -Original Message-
 From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 4:34 PM
 To: cf-community
 Subject: RE: Democrats set to lose the senate


 The comment was in relation to internal government studies and self 
 oversight.

 Those numbers are a joke.
 On Sep 9, 2014 5:24 PM, Eric Roberts 
 ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
 wrote:

 
  Some VA's do Tim...but this has nothing to do with welfare
 
  -Original Message-
  From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 3:52 PM
  To: cf-community
  Subject: RE: Democrats set to lose the senate
 
 
  And the VA provides the best health services in the world..
  On Sep 9, 2014 4:51 PM, Eric Roberts
  ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
  wrote:
 
  
   Lets see the proof that many do Rick...you made the initial claim...
  
   8.7% BTW...that is not many...
  
   http://federalsafetynet.com/welfare-fraud.html
  
   Here's one state's results of it's search for wefare fraud...
  
   http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/01/08/3136631/lepage-welfare
   /
  
   Here's another that says its 2-3%
  
  
   http://www.roanen.com/presidential-thoughts-blog/how-much-is-welfa
   re
   -f
   raud-c
   osting-us
  
   Here's another at 2%
  
  
   http://spritzophrenia.wordpress.com/2011/01/04/how-bad-is-welfare-
   fr
   au
   d-in-t
   he-usa/
  
   Sounds to me like it is more like some than many.  Yes ther are 
   people abusing it...there always will be...but the bulk of the 
   people are not abusing it and are people that really need it.
  
   Eric
   -Original Message-
   From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com]
   Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 1:09 PM
   To: cf-community
   Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate
  
  
   Then, let's see the evidence, Herr Eric.
  
   Provide the quote.
  
   (And by the way, your some...yes...many...no response doesn't 
   line up with my questions and makes little sense.)
  
  
   On 9/9/2014 2:02 PM, Eric Roberts wrote:
Some...yes...many...no.
   
-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 12:36 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate
   
   
I have never claimed that utilizing welfare is inherently wrong.
Can you quote me stating that, Herr Eric? And do you deny that 
many on the welfare rolls are abusing said rolls, Herr Eric?
   
   
On 9/9/2014 1:14 PM, Eric Roberts wrote:
It's irrelevant why...the fact is conservatives use more 
welfare than liberals do.  It's not, as Herr Rick is claiming, 
that liberals are abusing the generosity of Americans...that 
would be
  conservatives.
   
-Original Message-
From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 11:02 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: RE: Democrats set to lose the senate
   
   
Because they are older and in areas that were more heavily hit 
by the loss of our industrial sector.
On Sep 9, 2014 11:49 AM, Eric Roberts
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
wrote:
   
Then why is it that the bulk of the people on welfare programs 
are conservatives?  Red states consume more way more welfare 
dollars than blue states do.
   
-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 10:23 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate
   
   
Let's start with 'personal responsibility'.
   
Liberals have abused the generosity of the American Public to 
the point that welfare is now a way of life for half our
 population.
   
   
On 9/9/2014 11:11 AM, William Bowen wrote:
mmm... excellent bogeymen all...
   
Rick, it was your initial statement, care to elaborate on 
your American values?
   
   
   
   
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:07 AM, LRS Scout 
lrssc...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   
Slavery, spousal abuse and firing invasion seen to be common
  threads.
On Sep 9, 2014 11:02 AM, William Bowen
william.bo...@gmail.com
wrote:
It's time to fight for American values and virtue and not 
surrender this nation to those who would only

RE: Ray Rice

2014-09-09 Thread Eric Roberts

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/09/09/nfl-commissioner-goodell-does-not-rule
-out-ray-rice-return-to-football-he-has-paid-the-price/

-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 5:55 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Ray Rice


No, Scott, I'm not saying that. I said only what I said. Stop inferring from
my remarks.

I said a man has a right to defend himself if attacked by a woman. I would
not even hit my wife if she were to slap me. However, if a stranger, even a
woman, appeared to me to be a mortal threat, the stranger would be shot. For
instance, if she came at me with a knife or a gun, she would be shot. I'm
not going to take the chance of getting killed to avoid shooting someone.
She attacked and provoked a response. What should I do? Just allow her to
kill me?

But, concerning dressing provocatively:  didn't you say you have daughters,
Scott?
Do you want them to go out in public dressed provocatively? If not, why not?


On 9/9/2014 4:08 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
 Are you saying Ray Rice was 'defending' himself when he knocked his fiance
 unconscious? Because..it sure does seem that way.

 As has been pointed out in the thread, the issue for most is one of
 proportional response. Would you feel he had a right to defend himself by
 shooting her? According to you , he was being assaulted, and, following
 your 'logic' he should be bale to respond how he sees fit, right?

 I know you cannot see it (or refuse to admit it), but by saying 'she was
 asking for trouble' you are blaming her for what happened and in the
 process condoning his actions. Just like when people say, 'look at how she
 was dressed..she was asking for trouble' after a woman gets raped.


 On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.com
 wrote:

 No, because a woman's right to dress provocatively does not allow a man
the
 right to rape her.

 However, a woman's assault on a man does allow a man the right to defend
 himself.

 In the same way, a man's sexual assault of a woman entitles her to
 defend herself.


 On 9/9/2014 3:10 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Rick Faircloth 
 r...@whitestonemedia.com
 wrote:

 No, asshole, it reeks of she was asking for trouble.

 When a woman is raped would you say the same if she was dressed
 provocatively?



 



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RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-09 Thread Eric Roberts

Yes it is, unless you just ignore history.  

-Original Message-
From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 6:07 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate


That's not the government's job or concern.
On Sep 9, 2014 6:51 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote:


 Allowing people to just survive doesn't help them escape poverty.
 What actually seems to make a difference is giving them money to lift 
 them out of poverty.


 http://www.economist.com/news/international/21588385-giving-money-dire
 ctly-poor-people-works-surprisingly-well-it-cannot-deal

 On 9 September 2014 18:45, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.com
 wrote:

 
  My concern was mostly over long-term dependency abuse:
 
 
 
 http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2010/06/confronting-the-unsus
 tainable-growth-of-welfare-entitlements-principles-of-reform-and-the-n
 ext-steps?query=Confronting+the+Unsustainable+Growth+of+Welfare+Entitl
 ements:+Principles+of+Reform+and+the+Next+Step#_ftn12
 
  Food Stamp Expenditures Go To Those With Long-Term Dependence
 
  Percent of Total Food Stamp Spending for Non-Elderly Adults and 
  Children, 1979-1998
 
 3.4%   - Less Than 1 Year of Dependency
 6.2%   - 1 to 2 Years of Dependency
 20.8% - 2 to 5 Years of Dependency
 28.9% - 5 to 10 Years of Dependency
 40.8% - 10+ Years of Dependency
 
 


 



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RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-09 Thread Eric Roberts

Blah blah blah blahseriously Tim...

-Original Message-
From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 6:15 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: RE: Democrats set to lose the senate


You can't get honesty out of any government agency.  There's a new report of
some abuse even crime every day.

For Christ sake the CIA Judd got busted out spying on senators doing their
oversight.

IRS and DOJ are out of control

What planet do you live on
On Sep 9, 2014 6:53 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
wrote:


 Yeah...because there aren't a bunch of people still out of work and 
 unable to pay for food...right Tim...keep up the paranoia 
 brother...show me the proof...not just a paranoid I just know it is...

 -Original Message-
 From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 5:03 PM
 To: cf-community
 Subject: RE: Democrats set to lose the senate


 And I'm telling you that at a minimum the food stamp program is 
 corrupt as hell.  These numbers are so far outside the norm if urban 
 experience as to be ridiculous.
 On Sep 9, 2014 6:01 PM, Eric Roberts 
 ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
 wrote:

 
  LOL...most of those are not internal numbers...
 
  -Original Message-
  From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 4:34 PM
  To: cf-community
  Subject: RE: Democrats set to lose the senate
 
 
  The comment was in relation to internal government studies and self 
  oversight.
 
  Those numbers are a joke.
  On Sep 9, 2014 5:24 PM, Eric Roberts
  ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
  wrote:
 
  
   Some VA's do Tim...but this has nothing to do with welfare
  
   -Original Message-
   From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
   Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 3:52 PM
   To: cf-community
   Subject: RE: Democrats set to lose the senate
  
  
   And the VA provides the best health services in the world..
   On Sep 9, 2014 4:51 PM, Eric Roberts
   ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
   wrote:
  
   
Lets see the proof that many do Rick...you made the initial claim...
   
8.7% BTW...that is not many...
   
http://federalsafetynet.com/welfare-fraud.html
   
Here's one state's results of it's search for wefare fraud...
   
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/01/08/3136631/lepage-welfa
re
/
   
Here's another that says its 2-3%
   
   
http://www.roanen.com/presidential-thoughts-blog/how-much-is-wel
fa
re
-f
raud-c
osting-us
   
Here's another at 2%
   
   
http://spritzophrenia.wordpress.com/2011/01/04/how-bad-is-welfar
e-
fr
au
d-in-t
he-usa/
   
Sounds to me like it is more like some than many.  Yes ther are 
people abusing it...there always will be...but the bulk of the 
people are not abusing it and are people that really need it.
   
Eric
-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 1:09 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate
   
   
Then, let's see the evidence, Herr Eric.
   
Provide the quote.
   
(And by the way, your some...yes...many...no response doesn't 
line up with my questions and makes little sense.)
   
   
On 9/9/2014 2:02 PM, Eric Roberts wrote:
 Some...yes...many...no.

 -Original Message-
 From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 12:36 PM
 To: cf-community
 Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate


 I have never claimed that utilizing welfare is inherently wrong.
 Can you quote me stating that, Herr Eric? And do you deny that 
 many on the welfare rolls are abusing said rolls, Herr Eric?


 On 9/9/2014 1:14 PM, Eric Roberts wrote:
 It's irrelevant why...the fact is conservatives use more 
 welfare than liberals do.  It's not, as Herr Rick is 
 claiming, that liberals are abusing the generosity of 
 Americans...that would be
   conservatives.

 -Original Message-
 From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 11:02 AM
 To: cf-community
 Subject: RE: Democrats set to lose the senate


 Because they are older and in areas that were more heavily 
 hit by the loss of our industrial sector.
 On Sep 9, 2014 11:49 AM, Eric Roberts
 ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
 wrote:

 Then why is it that the bulk of the people on welfare 
 programs are conservatives?  Red states consume more way 
 more welfare dollars than blue states do.

 -Original Message-
 From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 10:23 AM
 To: cf-community
 Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate


 Let's start with 'personal

RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-09 Thread Eric Roberts

Exactly...or all of the corporate welfare that goes to multi-billion dollar
corporations...

-Original Message-
From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 6:20 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/19/us/food-stamp-fraud-in-the-underground-eco
nomy.html

Yes, there is some fraud in the Snap Program, but much less than in other
programs.  It baffled me that people get so upset about food stamp fraud but
won't blink at corruption in the weapons or financial industries.  Methinks
the priorities are skewed.

On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 6:03 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote:

 And I'm telling you that at a minimum the food stamp program is 
 corrupt as hell.  These numbers are so far outside the norm if urban 
 experience as to be ridiculous.



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RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-09 Thread Eric Roberts

That wouldn't be very practical.  I am all for force reductions...but I
don't think getting rid of the standing army would be very good for our
defense.  That would leave us pretty defenseless.  It's not like we would be
fighting against a bunch of guys with muskets and cannons...we need to have
the skilled soldiers that today's technology requires.

-Original Message-
From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 6:22 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate


You know I want to shut down the standing army for the most part.

That has nothing to do with this point.
On Sep 9, 2014 7:20 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote:



 http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/19/us/food-stamp-fraud-in-the-undergrou
 nd-economy.html

 Yes, there is some fraud in the Snap Program, but much less than in 
 other programs.  It baffled me that people get so upset about food 
 stamp fraud but won't blink at corruption in the weapons or financial 
 industries.  Methinks the priorities are skewed.

 On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 6:03 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  And I'm telling you that at a minimum the food stamp program is 
  corrupt
 as
  hell.  These numbers are so far outside the norm if urban experience 
  as
 to
  be ridiculous.

 



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RE: Ray Rice

2014-09-09 Thread Eric Roberts

Personally I think they should both be castigated for using violence.  I
don't know if I would necessarily call her a victim...she looks like she was
able to beat the crap out of him in return...not to excuse what he
did...both should have assault charges filed.  Unless it can be shown that
she was purely defending herself...that is the standard that police use.  If
both parties are hitting each other...both parties get arrested to sort it
out.  

-Original Message-
From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 6:35 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: RE: Ray Rice


Days...
On Sep 9, 2014 7:33 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
wrote:



 http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/09/09/nfl-commissioner-goodell-does-no
 t-rule -out-ray-rice-return-to-football-he-has-paid-the-price/

 -Original Message-
 From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 5:55 PM
 To: cf-community
 Subject: Re: Ray Rice


 No, Scott, I'm not saying that. I said only what I said. Stop 
 inferring from my remarks.

 I said a man has a right to defend himself if attacked by a woman. I 
 would not even hit my wife if she were to slap me. However, if a 
 stranger, even a woman, appeared to me to be a mortal threat, the stranger
would be shot.
 For
 instance, if she came at me with a knife or a gun, she would be shot. 
 I'm not going to take the chance of getting killed to avoid shooting
someone.
 She attacked and provoked a response. What should I do? Just allow her 
 to kill me?

 But, concerning dressing provocatively:  didn't you say you have 
 daughters, Scott?
 Do you want them to go out in public dressed provocatively? If not, 
 why not?


 On 9/9/2014 4:08 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
  Are you saying Ray Rice was 'defending' himself when he knocked his
 fiance
  unconscious? Because..it sure does seem that way.
 
  As has been pointed out in the thread, the issue for most is one of 
  proportional response. Would you feel he had a right to defend 
  himself by shooting her? According to you , he was being assaulted, 
  and, following your 'logic' he should be bale to respond how he sees
fit, right?
 
  I know you cannot see it (or refuse to admit it), but by saying 'she 
  was asking for trouble' you are blaming her for what happened and in 
  the process condoning his actions. Just like when people say, 'look 
  at how
 she
  was dressed..she was asking for trouble' after a woman gets raped.
 
 
  On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Rick Faircloth 
  r...@whitestonemedia.com
 
  wrote:
 
  No, because a woman's right to dress provocatively does not allow a 
  man
 the
  right to rape her.
 
  However, a woman's assault on a man does allow a man the right to 
  defend himself.
 
  In the same way, a man's sexual assault of a woman entitles her to 
  defend herself.
 
 
  On 9/9/2014 3:10 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
  On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Rick Faircloth 
  r...@whitestonemedia.com
  wrote:
 
  No, asshole, it reeks of she was asking for trouble.
 
  When a woman is raped would you say the same if she was dressed 
  provocatively?
 
 
 
 



 



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RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-09 Thread Eric Roberts

Twice even...looking to see if the sky is falling...

-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 7:26 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate


What!? I agree with Eric! So it ain't so!


On 9/9/2014 8:09 PM, Eric Roberts wrote:
 That wouldn't be very practical.  I am all for force reductions...but 
 I don't think getting rid of the standing army would be very good for 
 our defense.  That would leave us pretty defenseless.  It's not like 
 we would be fighting against a bunch of guys with muskets and 
 cannons...we need to have the skilled soldiers that today's technology
requires.

 -Original Message-
 From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 6:22 PM
 To: cf-community
 Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate


 You know I want to shut down the standing army for the most part.

 That has nothing to do with this point.
 On Sep 9, 2014 7:20 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote:


 http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/19/us/food-stamp-fraud-in-the-undergro
 u
 nd-economy.html

 Yes, there is some fraud in the Snap Program, but much less than in 
 other programs.  It baffled me that people get so upset about food 
 stamp fraud but won't blink at corruption in the weapons or financial 
 industries.  Methinks the priorities are skewed.

 On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 6:03 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote:
 And I'm telling you that at a minimum the food stamp program is 
 corrupt
 as
 hell.  These numbers are so far outside the norm if urban experience 
 as
 to
 be ridiculous.



 



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RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-09 Thread Eric Roberts

The reason we switched away from a militia system is that it could no longer
serve our national defense needs.  You are way behind the curve man.

-Original Message-
From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 7:33 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate


That can come here and do us harm?

Not one.

A true border defense force and nationwide conscription in militia in time
of need, shared sacrifice and no foreign entanglements.
On Sep 9, 2014 8:26 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.com wrote:


 Why in the world would you want to shut down the standing army, Scout?

 Do  you not think this nation has enemy against which we must be ready 
 to defend ourselves?


 On 9/9/2014 7:21 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
  You know I want to shut down the standing army for the most part.
 
  That has nothing to do with this point.
  On Sep 9, 2014 7:20 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/19/us/food-stamp-fraud-in-the-undergrou
 nd-economy.html
 
  Yes, there is some fraud in the Snap Program, but much less than in 
  other programs.  It baffled me that people get so upset about food 
  stamp fraud but won't blink at corruption in the weapons or 
  financial industries.  Methinks the priorities are skewed.
 
  On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 6:03 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote:
  And I'm telling you that at a minimum the food stamp program is 
  corrupt
  as
  hell.  These numbers are so far outside the norm if urban 
  experience as
  to
  be ridiculous.
 
 

 



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RE: Ray Rice

2014-09-09 Thread Eric Roberts

I didn't see that part.  I just saw the initial video.  I am not a sports
fan, so I didn't look much after that.  There is probably more that we
didn't see on the video since they dropped the charges against her.

-Original Message-
From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 7:47 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: RE: Ray Rice


Both initially were charged with assault. Her charges were later dropped.
He was then charged with aggravated assault.

I wonder, if this was a 12 year old child who he hit, would you guys think
they were also 'looking for trouble'?
On Sep 9, 2014 8:13 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
wrote:


 Personally I think they should both be castigated for using violence.  
 I don't know if I would necessarily call her a victim...she looks like 
 she was able to beat the crap out of him in return...not to excuse 
 what he did...both should have assault charges filed.  Unless it can 
 be shown that she was purely defending herself...that is the standard 
 that police use.
 If
 both parties are hitting each other...both parties get arrested to 
 sort it out.

 -Original Message-
 From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 6:35 PM
 To: cf-community
 Subject: RE: Ray Rice


 Days...
 On Sep 9, 2014 7:33 PM, Eric Roberts 
 ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
 wrote:

 
 
  http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/09/09/nfl-commissioner-goodell-does-
  no t-rule -out-ray-rice-return-to-football-he-has-paid-the-price/
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 5:55 PM
  To: cf-community
  Subject: Re: Ray Rice
 
 
  No, Scott, I'm not saying that. I said only what I said. Stop 
  inferring from my remarks.
 
  I said a man has a right to defend himself if attacked by a woman. I 
  would not even hit my wife if she were to slap me. However, if a 
  stranger, even a woman, appeared to me to be a mortal threat, the
 stranger
 would be shot.
  For
  instance, if she came at me with a knife or a gun, she would be shot.
  I'm not going to take the chance of getting killed to avoid shooting
 someone.
  She attacked and provoked a response. What should I do? Just allow 
  her to kill me?
 
  But, concerning dressing provocatively:  didn't you say you have 
  daughters, Scott?
  Do you want them to go out in public dressed provocatively? If not, 
  why not?
 
 
  On 9/9/2014 4:08 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
   Are you saying Ray Rice was 'defending' himself when he knocked 
   his
  fiance
   unconscious? Because..it sure does seem that way.
  
   As has been pointed out in the thread, the issue for most is one 
   of proportional response. Would you feel he had a right to defend 
   himself by shooting her? According to you , he was being 
   assaulted, and, following your 'logic' he should be bale to 
   respond how he sees
 fit, right?
  
   I know you cannot see it (or refuse to admit it), but by saying 
   'she was asking for trouble' you are blaming her for what happened 
   and in the process condoning his actions. Just like when people 
   say, 'look at how
  she
   was dressed..she was asking for trouble' after a woman gets raped.
  
  
   On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Rick Faircloth 
   r...@whitestonemedia.com
  
   wrote:
  
   No, because a woman's right to dress provocatively does not allow 
   a man
  the
   right to rape her.
  
   However, a woman's assault on a man does allow a man the right to 
   defend himself.
  
   In the same way, a man's sexual assault of a woman entitles her 
   to defend herself.
  
  
   On 9/9/2014 3:10 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
   On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Rick Faircloth 
   r...@whitestonemedia.com
   wrote:
  
   No, asshole, it reeks of she was asking for trouble.
  
   When a woman is raped would you say the same if she was dressed 
   provocatively?
  
  
  
  
 
 
 
 



 



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RE: Ray Rice

2014-09-09 Thread Eric Roberts

I don't think he was ever the victim.

-Original Message-
From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 8:11 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Ray Rice


I am not, and I feel safe in assuming you know that - maybe I am giving you
to much credit.

I am trying to see if disproportionate response is something Rick would ever
consider.

To be honest, I had very little respect for Rick before this whole thread
started, and his response do not really surprise me. But, Gel, I am
flabbergasted by some of your comments - both here and on Facebook. It just
does not jive with the impression I have gotten over the years - apparently,
I am not the only one.

I will say this one more time. There is NOTHING she did to deserve being
punched in the face and knocked unconscious. His life was never in danger.
His response was way over the top. Can we please stop painting him as the
victim?
 On Sep 9, 2014 9:00 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote:


 You are comparing an adult woman to a 12 year old child?
 Do you think women are like little kids unable to take responsibility 
 for their actions, and know right from wrong?

 Dropping the charges doesn't mean that she didn't do anything, it 
 means that the lawyers decided it wasn't worth it to prosecute, and 
 they had a stronger case against him.

 On 9 September 2014 20:47, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote:

 
  Both initially were charged with assault. Her charges were later
dropped.
  He was then charged with aggravated assault.
 
  I wonder, if this was a 12 year old child who he hit, would you guys
 think
  they were also 'looking for trouble'?
 


 



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RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-09 Thread Eric Roberts

No one could come here?  So all that screaming and gnashing of teeth about
needing to secure our border is bullshit?

-Original Message-
From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 9:01 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: RE: Democrats set to lose the senate


In foreign lands.

No one can come here and I said a full time boarder component.
On Sep 9, 2014 10:00 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
wrote:


 The reason we switched away from a militia system is that it could no 
 longer serve our national defense needs.  You are way behind the curve 
 man.

 -Original Message-
 From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 7:33 PM
 To: cf-community
 Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate


 That can come here and do us harm?

 Not one.

 A true border defense force and nationwide conscription in militia in 
 time of need, shared sacrifice and no foreign entanglements.
 On Sep 9, 2014 8:26 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.com wrote:

 
  Why in the world would you want to shut down the standing army, Scout?
 
  Do  you not think this nation has enemy against which we must be 
  ready to defend ourselves?
 
 
  On 9/9/2014 7:21 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
   You know I want to shut down the standing army for the most part.
  
   That has nothing to do with this point.
   On Sep 9, 2014 7:20 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  
  
  http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/19/us/food-stamp-fraud-in-the-undergr
  ou
  nd-economy.html
  
   Yes, there is some fraud in the Snap Program, but much less than 
   in other programs.  It baffled me that people get so upset about 
   food stamp fraud but won't blink at corruption in the weapons or 
   financial industries.  Methinks the priorities are skewed.
  
   On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 6:03 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote:
   And I'm telling you that at a minimum the food stamp program is 
   corrupt
   as
   hell.  These numbers are so far outside the norm if urban 
   experience as
   to
   be ridiculous.
  
  
 
 



 



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RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-09 Thread Eric Roberts

Right...smh

-Original Message-
From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 9:16 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: RE: Democrats set to lose the senate


Oh individuals can and are.

I mean a military force capable of doing anything but dying.

Again I just said a real boarder defence force.
On Sep 9, 2014 10:03 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
wrote:


 No one could come here?  So all that screaming and gnashing of teeth 
 about needing to secure our border is bullshit?

 -Original Message-
 From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 9:01 PM
 To: cf-community
 Subject: RE: Democrats set to lose the senate


 In foreign lands.

 No one can come here and I said a full time boarder component.
 On Sep 9, 2014 10:00 PM, Eric Roberts 
 ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
 wrote:

 
  The reason we switched away from a militia system is that it could 
  no longer serve our national defense needs.  You are way behind the 
  curve man.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 7:33 PM
  To: cf-community
  Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate
 
 
  That can come here and do us harm?
 
  Not one.
 
  A true border defense force and nationwide conscription in militia 
  in time of need, shared sacrifice and no foreign entanglements.
  On Sep 9, 2014 8:26 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.com
 wrote:
 
  
   Why in the world would you want to shut down the standing army,
 Scout?
  
   Do  you not think this nation has enemy against which we must be 
   ready to defend ourselves?
  
  
   On 9/9/2014 7:21 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
You know I want to shut down the standing army for the most part.
   
That has nothing to do with this point.
On Sep 9, 2014 7:20 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote:
   
   
   
   http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/19/us/food-stamp-fraud-in-the-under
   gr
   ou
   nd-economy.html
   
Yes, there is some fraud in the Snap Program, but much less 
than in other programs.  It baffled me that people get so upset 
about food stamp fraud but won't blink at corruption in the 
weapons or financial industries.  Methinks the priorities are
skewed.
   
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 6:03 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com
 wrote:
And I'm telling you that at a minimum the food stamp program 
is corrupt
as
hell.  These numbers are so far outside the norm if urban 
experience as
to
be ridiculous.
   
   
  
  
 
 
 
 



 



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RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-09 Thread Eric Roberts

So all this training we do with our soldiers is just a big waste of time and
money...people can just jump in and naturally do it...gotcha...

-Original Message-
From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 9:16 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: RE: Democrats set to lose the senate


Oh individuals can and are.

I mean a military force capable of doing anything but dying.

Again I just said a real boarder defence force.
On Sep 9, 2014 10:03 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
wrote:


 No one could come here?  So all that screaming and gnashing of teeth 
 about needing to secure our border is bullshit?

 -Original Message-
 From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 9:01 PM
 To: cf-community
 Subject: RE: Democrats set to lose the senate


 In foreign lands.

 No one can come here and I said a full time boarder component.
 On Sep 9, 2014 10:00 PM, Eric Roberts 
 ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
 wrote:

 
  The reason we switched away from a militia system is that it could 
  no longer serve our national defense needs.  You are way behind the 
  curve man.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 7:33 PM
  To: cf-community
  Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate
 
 
  That can come here and do us harm?
 
  Not one.
 
  A true border defense force and nationwide conscription in militia 
  in time of need, shared sacrifice and no foreign entanglements.
  On Sep 9, 2014 8:26 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.com
 wrote:
 
  
   Why in the world would you want to shut down the standing army,
 Scout?
  
   Do  you not think this nation has enemy against which we must be 
   ready to defend ourselves?
  
  
   On 9/9/2014 7:21 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
You know I want to shut down the standing army for the most part.
   
That has nothing to do with this point.
On Sep 9, 2014 7:20 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote:
   
   
   
   http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/19/us/food-stamp-fraud-in-the-under
   gr
   ou
   nd-economy.html
   
Yes, there is some fraud in the Snap Program, but much less 
than in other programs.  It baffled me that people get so upset 
about food stamp fraud but won't blink at corruption in the 
weapons or financial industries.  Methinks the priorities are
skewed.
   
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 6:03 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com
 wrote:
And I'm telling you that at a minimum the food stamp program 
is corrupt
as
hell.  These numbers are so far outside the norm if urban 
experience as
to
be ridiculous.
   
   
  
  
 
 
 
 



 



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RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread Eric Roberts

Or they don't bring it up at all Rick.  Boehner does the same thing Reid
does...they control what bills come to the floor in their respective houses
and Boehner has not let a lot of what has passed in the senate come to the
house floor.  The Senate just passed a bill tonight that would overturn
Citizen's United.  How much do you want to bet it never gets to a vote on
the house floor?

-Original Message-
From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 8:01 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate


The democrats seem to be completely incompetent, although they are up
against a bunch of right wing extremists calling themselves the GOP party.

I just shudder to think what the US will become under a GOP government.

We have already seen what is taking place in Australia under the leadership
of the US right wing.

On 8 September 2014 18:45, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.com wrote:


 That's nonsense, Judah... at least the House votes and passes bills.

 Wouldn't it be smarter for Reid to bring up bills for a vote, pass 
 them (if he could), and then force the House to have to wrestle with a 
 bill?

 Reid is only trying to protect his senators by making sure they don't 
 have to take a vote, show their stripes, and be held accountable by a 
 public that has soured on all things democrat, including Obama with a 
 38% approval rating.

 And the entire reason you have a hard-core Tea Party wing, is that the 
 conservative public got tired of the rampaging hard-core liberals 
 running rough-shod over the country.

 Rick






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RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread Eric Roberts

Obama is hardly a hardcore liberal...he is a moderate conservative at best.
Brain implant chips?  Seriously Tim?  

-Original Message-
From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 9:08 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate


There is a hardcore liberal didn't running roughshod over the consortium in
the white house right now.

Have you seem some I'd the attempted gun control legislation?

Don't forget chairman Obama's recent decree to give vets brain implant
chips, which it turns out haven't even been human tested yet.

In post racial America we can.t have another Tuskegee, so we'll go to the
new second class for test subjects.

I mean dangerous veterans should be controlled.

If they think after paxil and larium and anthrax and small pox, and giving
me mrsa that I'm going to let them implant shit in my head.
On Sep 8, 2014 9:58 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote:


 On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Rick Faircloth 
 r...@whitestonemedia.com
 wrote:

 
  That's nonsense, Judah... at least the House votes and passes bills.
 

 You mean the double digit votes to repeal the Affordable Care Act?


  Wouldn't it be smarter for Reid to bring up bills for a vote, pass 
  them (if he could), and then force the House to have to wrestle with 
  a bill?
 

 No, that wouldn't be smarter, for the reasons I already stated. Please 
 pay attention.


  Reid is only trying to protect his senators by making sure they 
  don't have to take a vote, show their stripes, and be held 
  accountable by a public that has soured on all things democrat, 
  including Obama with a 38% approval rating.
 
 
 Except that Republicans have an even worse (by far) approval rating 
 than Democrats.


  And the entire reason you have a hard-core Tea Party wing, is that 
  the conservative public got tired of the rampaging hard-core 
  liberals running rough-shod over the country.
 
 
 I would disagree on the reasons. And when was the last time there were 
 rampaging hard-core liberals running rough shod over the country? FDR?


  That now works both ways, too. (Unless Obama and his IRS can 
  successfully shut down the conservative groups by hunting them down 
  and running them out of
  business.)
 
 
 Which, of course, was a lie from day one. Please, do tell me which 
 groups the IRS denied status to, for political or other reasons.


  Rick


 You know, Rick, my wife said to me on election night, I've never seen 
 someone so depressed and pissed off when the person they voted for 
 won. I really don't care for Democrats as a general rule and I really 
 hated to have to vote for Obama, but you and your ilk, Rick, make me 
 want to vomit and you are why we can't have a reasonable political 
 discourse in this country. It makes me sick.

 Judah


 



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RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread Eric Roberts

The ACA has not had the opposite effect...it is doing better than expected 
actually.

-Original Message-
From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:10 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: RE: Democrats set to lose the senate


Social program spending has increased, deficit spending has increased, 
corruption is rife at all levels of government, how can anyone defend any 
incumbent anymore?

It's insane.

The ACA had the opposite effect intended.  We're under constant significance, 
and a county in Florida's just bought six apache attack helicopters, two seats, 
can't even carry passengers.

Wake up.
On Sep 8, 2014 11:05 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't lie and I'm tired of you calling me a liar and not even 
 reading any of the applicable source I invariably dig up.
 On Sep 8, 2014 11:04 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dude I shit you not it's in the Whitehouse site and they themselves 
 emailed me about it:


 http://m.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/08/26/fact-sheet-presid
 ent-obama-announces-new-executive-actions-fulfill-our-p

 *Continuing our Commitment to Improve Treatments for Mental Health 
 Conditions including PTSD. *In support of the National Research 
 Action Plan on military and veteran’s mental health, the DoD and 
 the National Institutes of Health are launching a longitudinal 
 project focused on the early detection of suicidality, PTSD, and long 
 term effects of TBI, and other related issues in service members and 
 veterans. VA is launching a
 $34.4 million suicide prevention study involving 1800 veterans at 29 
 VA hospitals. In support of the President’s BRAIN Initiative, the 
 Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) is announcing a new 
 $78.9 million research program to develop minimally-invasive 
 neurotechnologies that may help treat many diseases, including PTSD. 
 In addition, the White House announced that this fall it will host 
 the White House BRAIN conference, including a focus on PTSD and TBI.
 On Sep 8, 2014 10:44 PM, Eric Roberts 
 ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
 wrote:


 Obama is hardly a hardcore liberal...he is a moderate conservative 
 at best.
 Brain implant chips?  Seriously Tim?

 -Original Message-
 From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 9:08 PM
 To: cf-community
 Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate


 There is a hardcore liberal didn't running roughshod over the 
 consortium in the white house right now.

 Have you seem some I'd the attempted gun control legislation?

 Don't forget chairman Obama's recent decree to give vets brain 
 implant chips, which it turns out haven't even been human tested yet.

 In post racial America we can.t have another Tuskegee, so we'll go 
 to the new second class for test subjects.

 I mean dangerous veterans should be controlled.

 If they think after paxil and larium and anthrax and small pox, and 
 giving me mrsa that I'm going to let them implant shit in my 
 head.
 On Sep 8, 2014 9:58 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote:

 
  On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Rick Faircloth 
  r...@whitestonemedia.com
  wrote:
 
  
   That's nonsense, Judah... at least the House votes and passes bills.
  
 
  You mean the double digit votes to repeal the Affordable Care Act?
 
 
   Wouldn't it be smarter for Reid to bring up bills for a vote, 
   pass them (if he could), and then force the House to have to 
   wrestle with a bill?
  
 
  No, that wouldn't be smarter, for the reasons I already stated. 
  Please pay attention.
 
 
   Reid is only trying to protect his senators by making sure they 
   don't have to take a vote, show their stripes, and be held 
   accountable by a public that has soured on all things democrat, 
   including Obama with a 38% approval rating.
  
  
  Except that Republicans have an even worse (by far) approval 
  rating than Democrats.
 
 
   And the entire reason you have a hard-core Tea Party wing, is 
   that the conservative public got tired of the rampaging 
   hard-core liberals running rough-shod over the country.
  
  
  I would disagree on the reasons. And when was the last time there 
  were rampaging hard-core liberals running rough shod over the country? 
  FDR?
 
 
   That now works both ways, too. (Unless Obama and his IRS can 
   successfully shut down the conservative groups by hunting them 
   down and running them out of
   business.)
  
  
  Which, of course, was a lie from day one. Please, do tell me which 
  groups the IRS denied status to, for political or other reasons.
 
 
   Rick
 
 
  You know, Rick, my wife said to me on election night, I've never 
  seen someone so depressed and pissed off when the person they 
  voted for won. I really don't care for Democrats as a general 
  rule and I really hated to have to vote for Obama, but you and 
  your ilk, Rick, make me want to vomit and you are why we can't 
  have a reasonable

RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread Eric Roberts

Outside of nutcase websites, I don't see anything referring to brain implants...

-Original Message-
From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:05 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: RE: Democrats set to lose the senate


Dude I shit you not it's in the Whitehouse site and they themselves emailed me 
about it:

http://m.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/08/26/fact-sheet-president-obama-announces-new-executive-actions-fulfill-our-p

*Continuing our Commitment to Improve Treatments for Mental Health Conditions 
including PTSD. *In support of the National Research Action Plan on military 
and veteran’s mental health, the DoD and the National Institutes of 
Health are launching a longitudinal project focused on the early detection of 
suicidality, PTSD, and long term effects of TBI, and other related issues in 
service members and veterans. VA is launching a
$34.4 million suicide prevention study involving 1800 veterans at 29 VA 
hospitals. In support of the President’s BRAIN Initiative, the Defense 
Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) is announcing a new $78.9 million 
research program to develop minimally-invasive neurotechnologies that may help 
treat many diseases, including PTSD. In addition, the White House announced 
that this fall it will host the White House BRAIN conference, including a focus 
on PTSD and TBI.
On Sep 8, 2014 10:44 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
wrote:


 Obama is hardly a hardcore liberal...he is a moderate conservative at best.
 Brain implant chips?  Seriously Tim?

 -Original Message-
 From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 9:08 PM
 To: cf-community
 Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate


 There is a hardcore liberal didn't running roughshod over the 
 consortium in the white house right now.

 Have you seem some I'd the attempted gun control legislation?

 Don't forget chairman Obama's recent decree to give vets brain implant 
 chips, which it turns out haven't even been human tested yet.

 In post racial America we can.t have another Tuskegee, so we'll go to 
 the new second class for test subjects.

 I mean dangerous veterans should be controlled.

 If they think after paxil and larium and anthrax and small pox, and 
 giving me mrsa that I'm going to let them implant shit in my head.
 On Sep 8, 2014 9:58 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote:

 
  On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Rick Faircloth 
  r...@whitestonemedia.com
  wrote:
 
  
   That's nonsense, Judah... at least the House votes and passes bills.
  
 
  You mean the double digit votes to repeal the Affordable Care Act?
 
 
   Wouldn't it be smarter for Reid to bring up bills for a vote, pass 
   them (if he could), and then force the House to have to wrestle 
   with a bill?
  
 
  No, that wouldn't be smarter, for the reasons I already stated. 
  Please pay attention.
 
 
   Reid is only trying to protect his senators by making sure they 
   don't have to take a vote, show their stripes, and be held 
   accountable by a public that has soured on all things democrat, 
   including Obama with a 38% approval rating.
  
  
  Except that Republicans have an even worse (by far) approval rating 
  than Democrats.
 
 
   And the entire reason you have a hard-core Tea Party wing, is that 
   the conservative public got tired of the rampaging hard-core 
   liberals running rough-shod over the country.
  
  
  I would disagree on the reasons. And when was the last time there 
  were rampaging hard-core liberals running rough shod over the country? FDR?
 
 
   That now works both ways, too. (Unless Obama and his IRS can 
   successfully shut down the conservative groups by hunting them 
   down and running them out of
   business.)
  
  
  Which, of course, was a lie from day one. Please, do tell me which 
  groups the IRS denied status to, for political or other reasons.
 
 
   Rick
 
 
  You know, Rick, my wife said to me on election night, I've never 
  seen someone so depressed and pissed off when the person they voted 
  for won. I really don't care for Democrats as a general rule and I 
  really hated to have to vote for Obama, but you and your ilk, Rick, 
  make me want to vomit and you are why we can't have a reasonable 
  political discourse in this country. It makes me sick.
 
  Judah
 
 
 



 



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RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread Eric Roberts

I still haven't seen anything about brain chips...

Wrong on the ACA...nice try though...

-Original Message-
From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:20 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: RE: Democrats set to lose the senate


You're killing me, no apology, no horror at the realization that brain chips
are a real fucking thing?

Who was the ACA good for?  It still hasn't been fully implemented and there
are now LESS people insured, paying more money, and if you can't afford it
you get a fine.

And if you can't see the insane implications if these perverse people with
the ability to read and write minds, then I don't know what to say On Sep 8,
2014 11:16 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
wrote:


 The ACA has not had the opposite effect...it is doing better than 
 expected actually.

 -Original Message-
 From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:10 PM
 To: cf-community
 Subject: RE: Democrats set to lose the senate


 Social program spending has increased, deficit spending has increased, 
 corruption is rife at all levels of government, how can anyone defend 
 any incumbent anymore?

 It's insane.

 The ACA had the opposite effect intended.  We're under constant 
 significance, and a county in Florida's just bought six apache attack 
 helicopters, two seats, can't even carry passengers.

 Wake up.
 On Sep 8, 2014 11:05 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote:

  I don't lie and I'm tired of you calling me a liar and not even 
  reading any of the applicable source I invariably dig up.
  On Sep 8, 2014 11:04 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Dude I shit you not it's in the Whitehouse site and they themselves 
  emailed me about it:
 
 
  http://m.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/08/26/fact-sheet-pres
  id ent-obama-announces-new-executive-actions-fulfill-our-p
 
  *Continuing our Commitment to Improve Treatments for Mental Health 
  Conditions including PTSD. *In support of the National Research 
  Action Plan on military and veteran’s mental health, the DoD 
  and the National Institutes of Health are launching a longitudinal 
  project focused on the early detection of suicidality, PTSD, and 
  long term effects of TBI, and other related issues in service 
  members and veterans. VA is launching a
  $34.4 million suicide prevention study involving 1800 veterans at 
  29 VA hospitals. In support of the President’s BRAIN 
  Initiative, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) 
  is announcing a new
  $78.9 million research program to develop minimally-invasive 
  neurotechnologies that may help treat many diseases, including PTSD.
  In addition, the White House announced that this fall it will host 
  the White House BRAIN conference, including a focus on PTSD and TBI.
  On Sep 8, 2014 10:44 PM, Eric Roberts
  ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
  wrote:
 
 
  Obama is hardly a hardcore liberal...he is a moderate conservative 
  at best.
  Brain implant chips?  Seriously Tim?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 9:08 PM
  To: cf-community
  Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate
 
 
  There is a hardcore liberal didn't running roughshod over the 
  consortium in the white house right now.
 
  Have you seem some I'd the attempted gun control legislation?
 
  Don't forget chairman Obama's recent decree to give vets brain 
  implant chips, which it turns out haven't even been human tested yet.
 
  In post racial America we can.t have another Tuskegee, so we'll go 
  to the new second class for test subjects.
 
  I mean dangerous veterans should be controlled.
 
  If they think after paxil and larium and anthrax and small pox, 
  and giving me mrsa that I'm going to let them implant shit in my 
  head.
  On Sep 8, 2014 9:58 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote:
 
  
   On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Rick Faircloth 
   r...@whitestonemedia.com
   wrote:
  
   
That's nonsense, Judah... at least the House votes and passes
 bills.
   
  
   You mean the double digit votes to repeal the Affordable Care Act?
  
  
Wouldn't it be smarter for Reid to bring up bills for a vote, 
pass them (if he could), and then force the House to have to 
wrestle with a bill?
   
  
   No, that wouldn't be smarter, for the reasons I already stated.
   Please pay attention.
  
  
Reid is only trying to protect his senators by making sure 
they don't have to take a vote, show their stripes, and be 
held accountable by a public that has soured on all things 
democrat, including Obama with a 38% approval rating.
   
   
   Except that Republicans have an even worse (by far) approval 
   rating than Democrats.
  
  
And the entire reason you have a hard-core Tea Party wing, is 
that the conservative public got tired of the rampaging 
hard-core liberals running

RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread Eric Roberts

All I am seeing is about it mapping the human brain in a similar manner to
the genome...so they have a better understanding of how the neural pathways
work.  Jumping to brain chips, while not surprising coming from you, is a
bit extreme.

-Original Message-
From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:21 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: RE: Democrats set to lose the senate


minimally-invasive neurotechnologies
On Sep 8, 2014 11:19 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
wrote:


 Outside of nutcase websites, I don't see anything referring to brain 
 implants...

 -Original Message-
 From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:05 PM
 To: cf-community
 Subject: RE: Democrats set to lose the senate


 Dude I shit you not it's in the Whitehouse site and they themselves 
 emailed me about it:


 http://m.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/08/26/fact-sheet-preside
 nt-obama-announces-new-executive-actions-fulfill-our-p

 *Continuing our Commitment to Improve Treatments for Mental Health 
 Conditions including PTSD. *In support of the National Research Action 
 Plan on military and veteran’s mental health, the DoD and the 
 National Institutes of Health are launching a longitudinal project 
 focused on the early detection of suicidality, PTSD, and long term 
 effects of TBI, and other related issues in service members and 
 veterans. VA is launching a
 $34.4 million suicide prevention study involving 1800 veterans at 29 
 VA hospitals. In support of the President’s BRAIN Initiative, 
 the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) is announcing a 
 new $78.9 million research program to develop minimally-invasive 
 neurotechnologies that may help treat many diseases, including PTSD. 
 In addition, the White House announced that this fall it will host the 
 White House BRAIN conference, including a focus on PTSD and TBI.
 On Sep 8, 2014 10:44 PM, Eric Roberts 
 ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
 wrote:

 
  Obama is hardly a hardcore liberal...he is a moderate conservative 
  at
 best.
  Brain implant chips?  Seriously Tim?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 9:08 PM
  To: cf-community
  Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate
 
 
  There is a hardcore liberal didn't running roughshod over the 
  consortium in the white house right now.
 
  Have you seem some I'd the attempted gun control legislation?
 
  Don't forget chairman Obama's recent decree to give vets brain 
  implant chips, which it turns out haven't even been human tested yet.
 
  In post racial America we can.t have another Tuskegee, so we'll go 
  to the new second class for test subjects.
 
  I mean dangerous veterans should be controlled.
 
  If they think after paxil and larium and anthrax and small pox, and 
  giving me mrsa that I'm going to let them implant shit in my head.
  On Sep 8, 2014 9:58 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote:
 
  
   On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Rick Faircloth 
   r...@whitestonemedia.com
   wrote:
  
   
That's nonsense, Judah... at least the House votes and passes bills.
   
  
   You mean the double digit votes to repeal the Affordable Care Act?
  
  
Wouldn't it be smarter for Reid to bring up bills for a vote, 
pass them (if he could), and then force the House to have to 
wrestle with a bill?
   
  
   No, that wouldn't be smarter, for the reasons I already stated.
   Please pay attention.
  
  
Reid is only trying to protect his senators by making sure they 
don't have to take a vote, show their stripes, and be held 
accountable by a public that has soured on all things democrat, 
including Obama with a 38% approval rating.
   
   
   Except that Republicans have an even worse (by far) approval 
   rating than Democrats.
  
  
And the entire reason you have a hard-core Tea Party wing, is 
that the conservative public got tired of the rampaging 
hard-core liberals running rough-shod over the country.
   
   
   I would disagree on the reasons. And when was the last time there 
   were rampaging hard-core liberals running rough shod over the country?
 FDR?
  
  
That now works both ways, too. (Unless Obama and his IRS can 
successfully shut down the conservative groups by hunting them 
down and running them out of
business.)
   
   
   Which, of course, was a lie from day one. Please, do tell me which 
   groups the IRS denied status to, for political or other reasons.
  
  
Rick
  
  
   You know, Rick, my wife said to me on election night, I've never 
   seen someone so depressed and pissed off when the person they 
   voted for won. I really don't care for Democrats as a general 
   rule and I really hated to have to vote for Obama, but you and 
   your ilk, Rick, make me want to vomit and you are why we can't 
   have a reasonable political

RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread Eric Roberts

Weren't you also saying that the ACA mandated chips to be implanted in
everyone?  See the pattern here...

-Original Message-
From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:21 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: RE: Democrats set to lose the senate


minimally-invasive neurotechnologies
On Sep 8, 2014 11:19 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
wrote:


 Outside of nutcase websites, I don't see anything referring to brain 
 implants...

 -Original Message-
 From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:05 PM
 To: cf-community
 Subject: RE: Democrats set to lose the senate


 Dude I shit you not it's in the Whitehouse site and they themselves 
 emailed me about it:


 http://m.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/08/26/fact-sheet-preside
 nt-obama-announces-new-executive-actions-fulfill-our-p

 *Continuing our Commitment to Improve Treatments for Mental Health 
 Conditions including PTSD. *In support of the National Research Action 
 Plan on military and veteran’s mental health, the DoD and the 
 National Institutes of Health are launching a longitudinal project 
 focused on the early detection of suicidality, PTSD, and long term 
 effects of TBI, and other related issues in service members and 
 veterans. VA is launching a
 $34.4 million suicide prevention study involving 1800 veterans at 29 
 VA hospitals. In support of the President’s BRAIN Initiative, 
 the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) is announcing a 
 new $78.9 million research program to develop minimally-invasive 
 neurotechnologies that may help treat many diseases, including PTSD. 
 In addition, the White House announced that this fall it will host the 
 White House BRAIN conference, including a focus on PTSD and TBI.
 On Sep 8, 2014 10:44 PM, Eric Roberts 
 ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
 wrote:

 
  Obama is hardly a hardcore liberal...he is a moderate conservative 
  at
 best.
  Brain implant chips?  Seriously Tim?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 9:08 PM
  To: cf-community
  Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate
 
 
  There is a hardcore liberal didn't running roughshod over the 
  consortium in the white house right now.
 
  Have you seem some I'd the attempted gun control legislation?
 
  Don't forget chairman Obama's recent decree to give vets brain 
  implant chips, which it turns out haven't even been human tested yet.
 
  In post racial America we can.t have another Tuskegee, so we'll go 
  to the new second class for test subjects.
 
  I mean dangerous veterans should be controlled.
 
  If they think after paxil and larium and anthrax and small pox, and 
  giving me mrsa that I'm going to let them implant shit in my head.
  On Sep 8, 2014 9:58 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote:
 
  
   On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Rick Faircloth 
   r...@whitestonemedia.com
   wrote:
  
   
That's nonsense, Judah... at least the House votes and passes bills.
   
  
   You mean the double digit votes to repeal the Affordable Care Act?
  
  
Wouldn't it be smarter for Reid to bring up bills for a vote, 
pass them (if he could), and then force the House to have to 
wrestle with a bill?
   
  
   No, that wouldn't be smarter, for the reasons I already stated.
   Please pay attention.
  
  
Reid is only trying to protect his senators by making sure they 
don't have to take a vote, show their stripes, and be held 
accountable by a public that has soured on all things democrat, 
including Obama with a 38% approval rating.
   
   
   Except that Republicans have an even worse (by far) approval 
   rating than Democrats.
  
  
And the entire reason you have a hard-core Tea Party wing, is 
that the conservative public got tired of the rampaging 
hard-core liberals running rough-shod over the country.
   
   
   I would disagree on the reasons. And when was the last time there 
   were rampaging hard-core liberals running rough shod over the country?
 FDR?
  
  
That now works both ways, too. (Unless Obama and his IRS can 
successfully shut down the conservative groups by hunting them 
down and running them out of
business.)
   
   
   Which, of course, was a lie from day one. Please, do tell me which 
   groups the IRS denied status to, for political or other reasons.
  
  
Rick
  
  
   You know, Rick, my wife said to me on election night, I've never 
   seen someone so depressed and pissed off when the person they 
   voted for won. I really don't care for Democrats as a general 
   rule and I really hated to have to vote for Obama, but you and 
   your ilk, Rick, make me want to vomit and you are why we can't 
   have a reasonable political discourse in this country. It makes me
sick.
  
   Judah

RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread Eric Roberts

He pretty much continued all of Bush's policies.  The only liberal part of
his polices has been what the has done for the LGBTQ Community and maybe the
equal pay for women bills.  Other than that, he turned out to be not much
different than Bush, with the exception of being a bit more prudent about
sending our troops into harm's way.

I was trying to find what he was talking about and the only stuff I saw were
on the usual tinfoil hat nutjob sites.  I will check those out...

Eric

-Original Message-
From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:chumph...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:01 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate


On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 10:43 PM, Eric Roberts 
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote:

 Obama is hardly a hardcore liberal...he is a moderate conservative at
best.


I'm curious, what policy or stance would you use to put him in that
category?


 Brain implant chips?  Seriously Tim?


I thought Tim was a bit off with that until I searched it.  There's a DARPA
research grant for it:
http://www.technologyreview.com/news/527561/military-funds-brain-computer-in
terfaces-to-control-feelings/

There's also another grant researching one specifically for TBI
http://www.vox.com/2014/7/11/5888687/Darpa-RAM-project-memory-chip-neural-pr
osthetics-TBI


Until Later!
C. Hatton Humphrey
http://www.eastcoastconservative.com

Every cloud does have a silver lining.  Sometimes you just have to do some
smelting to find it.




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RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread Eric Roberts

That doesn't sound so horrible...it sounds like it can do a lot of good.
Like Judah said...any tech is open to abuse...but to say this is a horrible
thing is a bit overly paranoid.  Again, not surprised coming from Tim.

-Original Message-
From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:chumph...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:01 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate


On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 10:43 PM, Eric Roberts 
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote:

 Obama is hardly a hardcore liberal...he is a moderate conservative at
best.


I'm curious, what policy or stance would you use to put him in that
category?


 Brain implant chips?  Seriously Tim?


I thought Tim was a bit off with that until I searched it.  There's a DARPA
research grant for it:
http://www.technologyreview.com/news/527561/military-funds-brain-computer-in
terfaces-to-control-feelings/

There's also another grant researching one specifically for TBI
http://www.vox.com/2014/7/11/5888687/Darpa-RAM-project-memory-chip-neural-pr
osthetics-TBI


Until Later!
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http://www.eastcoastconservative.com

Every cloud does have a silver lining.  Sometimes you just have to do some
smelting to find it.




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RE: The Kennewick Man Finally Freed to Share His Secrets

2014-08-28 Thread Eric Roberts

http://www.archaeology.org/news/2471-140827-kennewick-man-analysis

-Original Message-
From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 12:47 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: The Kennewick Man Finally Freed to Share His Secrets


thanks for that Jerry


On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 8:29 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson jmi...@gmail.com
wrote:



 http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/kennewick-man-finally-freed-shar
 e-his-secrets-180952462/?all

 Fascinating. Great long-form article on the topic, but really just 
 whets the appetite for the full study to come out.


 



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RE: The Kennewick Man Finally Freed to Share His Secrets

2014-08-28 Thread Eric Roberts

Another good article on the broader subject of the peopling of the
Americas...

http://archaeology.org/issues/145-1409/features/2366-peopling-the-americas-p
reclovis

-Original Message-
From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 12:47 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: The Kennewick Man Finally Freed to Share His Secrets


thanks for that Jerry


On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 8:29 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson jmi...@gmail.com
wrote:



 http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/kennewick-man-finally-freed-shar
 e-his-secrets-180952462/?all

 Fascinating. Great long-form article on the topic, but really just 
 whets the appetite for the full study to come out.


 



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RE: can't start apache after installing and configuring cf 11

2014-08-25 Thread Eric Roberts

I think it is called apache2.conf now...the latest version of apache changed
it from the httpd.conf file.  Not sure why they did that.  It seems pretty
stupid when theat is such a long standing standard.  It also makes it
difficult to get software to work with apache because most look for httpd
file.  I ended up creating a dynamic link called httpd.conf that linked to
the apache2.conf file.

Eric

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From: Matthew Smith [mailto:chedders...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 5:39 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: can't start apache after installing and configuring cf 11


Start fine after fresh install on new machine.  Installing coldfusion and
configuring the web connector seems to break it.  What weird is that it asks
for the server binary and it has always been httpd from that i remember now
it seems to be apache.  am i looking in the right place?




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RIP Robin Williams...

2014-08-11 Thread Eric Roberts

*twisting my ears* Nanoo Nanoo brother...

He died of an apparent suicide. :-(


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RE: RIP Robin Williams...

2014-08-11 Thread Eric Roberts

Well said Mr President...

Robin Williams was an airman, a doctor, a genie, a nanny, a president, a
professor, a bangarang Peter Pan, and everything in between. But he was one
of a kind. He arrived in our lives as an alien - but he ended up touching
every element of the human spirit. He made us laugh. He made us cry. He gave
his immeasurable talent freely and generously to those who needed it most -
from our troops stationed abroad to the marginalized on our own streets. The
Obama family offers our condolences to Robin's family, his friends, and
everyone who found their voice and their verse thanks to Robin Williams.

-Barack Obama

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From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 8:03 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: RIP Robin Williams...


Rest in peace, O, Captain. My Captain.
On Aug 11, 2014 7:46 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
wrote:


 *twisting my ears* Nanoo Nanoo brother...

 He died of an apparent suicide. :-(


 



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RE: Sometimes...

2014-08-05 Thread Eric Roberts

I also have an issue with this gimmicky stand up crap...way to make a
disabled person stand out and feel singled out...i always feel uncomfortable
in those because everyone else is standing up and I have to sit down.

-Original Message-
From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 8:18 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Sometimes...


On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com
wrote:



 I disagree with this.

 It's true that sometimes if a client wants something done a certain 
 way, even if you now it's wrong, you just have to do it.

 However, if the client is asking me to do something systemically and 
 fundamentally wrong that will destroy my soul and make me want to 
 slowly kill myself by eating glass shards... Those things I will not do.

 You are the only person in control of your destiny.


I love ya Cam, but that's a little melodramatic. I'm not talking about
contract killings here...just clients who want to attend my daily
standups.

Annoying, non-Agilebut not exactly soul crushing :)




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RE: Sometimes...

2014-08-05 Thread Eric Roberts

Yeah...it's the promised land for PM and managers because the devs are doing
their job for them.

-Original Message-
From: Jerry Milo Johnson [mailto:jmi...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 8:22 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Sometimes...


Well, no.
Scrum is an attempt to apply engineering principles to a historically
unmeasurable process.

and like with baking, or making cement, following the process AS CLOSELY AS
POSSIBLE is the actual purpose.

the client can say i need a double batch, or I need it to dry
underwater, but that just directs the team to change the formula, the
client doesn't get to say add more lyme, and use orange juice instead of
water.

when done well, i have seen it work great. but i usually see a train wreck.

but that is true of all dev methodologies. which is why agile seems like the
promised land for pms and managers.




On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 8:17 AM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote:


 Uh, the only RIGHT wayis the way the client tells you to do it. 
 Because the only right way, is the way that gets you paid.


 On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 7:14 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote:

 
  Hour long 'scrum', regardless of the reason, is doing it wrong.
 
  PM should be giving client a briefing based on the daily scrum or if
 client
  insists on being on call, they should play by the 'rules'.
 
  Sounds like client doesn't understand how the daily scrum is 
  supposed to work and that no one is willing/able to explain it.
  On Aug 4, 2014 1:10 PM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  
   He might be under similar constraints that my project is given. 
   The
  client
   deemed our project essential and critical, and they want
 observation
   and updates daily.so we are forced to have our clients on the 
   phone with us for our daily standups. You can imagine how this 
   complicates things.
  
   Agile scrums can be corrupted just like any other process...we've 
   had
  hour
   long stand-ups because the client steers them that way. Eric 
   probably
 has
   some similar externality that is butchering his Agile purity.
  
  
   On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  
   
Hour scrum?
   
Yea...you are doing it so very wrong.
   
If our daily scrum is more than 5 minutes, I get antsy.
   
   
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Eric Roberts  
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote:
   

 We have an hour meeting every day for our scrum, plus a
 retrospective
and a
 scrum panning session during a new sprint.  Those meetings can 
 go
 up
   to 2
 hrs...I think it is just an excuse for management not to do 
 it's
  job...

 -Original Message-
 From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 10:41 AM
 To: cf-community
 Subject: Re: Sometimes...


 Againif you spend that much time in meetings, you are not 
 doing
'agile'
 correctly.


 On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 8:32 AM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote:

 
  AMEN!!!
 
  Our shop is going full blown Agile, and the meetings are 
  driving
 me
nuts.
 
 
  On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website
   Solutions
   ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com wrote:
 
  
   LoL, that is priceless.
  
   I'm so glad our team isn't agile. Waste of frigging time 
   that
  is...
  
   2 days a sprint wasted to meetings.
  
   Working with the agile process I see LOL
  
   -Original Message-
   From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:chumph...@gmail.com]
   Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 1:14 PM
   To: cf-community
   Subject: Sometimes...
  
  
   Sorry, have to vent.  Work's being a bit more bang head
  here-ish
   than usual.  Guess the next skills I need to develop to 
   advance
  my
   career are telepathy, time travel and insomnia.
  
   Happy Friday, folks!
  
   Until Later!
   C. Hatton Humphrey
   http://www.eastcoastconservative.com
  
   Every cloud does have a silver lining.  Sometimes you just 
   have
  to
   do
  some
   smelting to find it.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
 




   
   
  
  
 
 

 



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RE: Sometimes...

2014-08-05 Thread Eric Roberts

Or even worse being stuck in the endless cycle of contract work...that would
be me.

-Original Message-
From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 8:51 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Sometimes...


On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 9:17 AM, GMoney wrote:

 Annoying, non-Agilebut not exactly soul crushing :)


Then why complain about it? There is this process of corporate
indoctrination that people go through. Eventually you just accept all those
things you hate about it and give up, becoming a part of the broken machine,
beaten down by HR policies and endless meetings, drawing others in with you.
That is when the job has already crushed your soul.

I have no way of knowing if you are in that place now, but I have seen so
many people there. Complaining endlessly about their situation but doing
nothing about it.

Maybe that doesn't apply to you, but I am fairly certain it applies to at
least *someone* on this thread who's complaining about broken Agile.

-Cameron

...




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RE: Sometimes...

2014-08-05 Thread Eric Roberts

Every place I have worked at, they stand up

-Original Message-
From: Scott Stewart [mailto:webmas...@sstwebworks.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 9:44 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: RE: Sometimes...


Uhmmm that's kind of unnecessary,  we never physically stand at our stand
ups.
On Aug 5, 2014 10:41 AM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
wrote:


 I also have an issue with this gimmicky stand up crap...way to make a 
 disabled person stand out and feel singled out...i always feel 
 uncomfortable in those because everyone else is standing up and I have 
 to sit down.

 -Original Message-
 From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 8:18 AM
 To: cf-community
 Subject: Re: Sometimes...


 On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 
 
  I disagree with this.
 
  It's true that sometimes if a client wants something done a certain 
  way, even if you now it's wrong, you just have to do it.
 
  However, if the client is asking me to do something systemically and 
  fundamentally wrong that will destroy my soul and make me want to 
  slowly kill myself by eating glass shards... Those things I will not do.
 
  You are the only person in control of your destiny.
 

 I love ya Cam, but that's a little melodramatic. I'm not talking about 
 contract killings here...just clients who want to attend my daily 
 standups.

 Annoying, non-Agilebut not exactly soul crushing :)




 



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