Re: Brooklyn-based Hasidic newspaper cuts Clinton, other woman from iconic photo

[Jerry Johnson]

For the love of God, do not go to that link I just sent, even if it was the 
RELIGION blog on CNN.com

The article is kind of kooky/kind of sad, but the comments are just evil.

Eye opening, but I wish I hadn't read them.

Jerry



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Re: Don't Ask Don't Tell

[Jerry Johnson]

well, the bill has been signed, but the actual implementation of the change
is not expected for a while.

so there is still trouble asking or telling.



On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Ras Tafari  wrote:

>
> but dont-ask dont-tell is gone now right?
>
> im so confused about their words
>
> On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Jerry Johnson  wrote:
> >
> > Obviously not.
> >
> > The policy was not against same-sex sex, but against being a homosexual
> and
> > actually being ATTRACTED to the other party during the proceedings.
> >
> > If he had of asked "do you LIKE men", then that would have been a
> violation.
> >
> > Just asking about the sex would not be.
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Rick Root  wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> So, when Gunnery Sergeant Hartman asked Private Cowboy "Do you suck
> >> dicks?" and "Are you a peter puffer?", would this be a violation of
> >> the Don't Ask Don't Tell policy?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Don't Ask Don't Tell

[Jerry Johnson]

Obviously not.

The policy was not against same-sex sex, but against being a homosexual and
actually being ATTRACTED to the other party during the proceedings.

If he had of asked "do you LIKE men", then that would have been a violation.

Just asking about the sex would not be.

On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Rick Root  wrote:

>
> So, when Gunnery Sergeant Hartman asked Private Cowboy "Do you suck
> dicks?" and "Are you a peter puffer?", would this be a violation of
> the Don't Ask Don't Tell policy?
>
> 

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For comic book fans - an actual legal blog for superheroes

[Jerry Johnson]

http://lawandthemultiverse.com/

Love it.

Jerry


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Re: Looking for a name for a hardware thingie

[Jerry Johnson]

if you want to go with something sexier, that is visible but has style, you
could instead go with some j-hooks meant as curtain or drape tie backs.

something sexy like these
http://www.morrellmetalsmiths.com/store/i/is.aspx?path=/images/BTIE.JPG

or something simple like:
http://i01.i.aliimg.com/photo/v0/211569745/curtain_hook_hook_metal_hook_metal_tieback.jpg

(I've hung panels on walls using these before)

Jerry

On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Sandra Clark  wrote:

>
> Those would probably work.  They don't need to match, all need to be
> replaced.  Thanks
>
>


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Re: The NYT publishes details of imminent troop movement in Afghanistan

[Jerry Johnson]

Do you truly not see any qualitative difference between this and most of
what wikileaks posted?

nyt:
  the USA is looking at expanding military operations into yet another
country, a nuclear country, with a massive Muslim population, and an
unfriendly government.

wikileaks:
  a diplomat called that guy fat.

The differences to me could not be clearer.



On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Vivec  wrote:

>
> http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/12/21/nyt
>
> Should they be treated the same as #wikileaks?
>
> "Senior American military commanders in Afghanistan are pushing for *an
> expanded campaign of Special Operations ground raids across the border into
> Pakistan’s tribal areas*, a risky strategy reflecting the growing
> frustration with Pakistan’s efforts to root out militants there.
>
> The proposal, *described by American officials in Washington and
> Afghanistan
> *, would escalate military activities inside Pakistan, where the movement
> of
> American forces has been largely prohibited because of fears of provoking a
> backlash.
>
> The plan has not yet been approved, but military and political leaders say
> a
> renewed sense of urgency has taken hold, as the deadline approaches for the
> Obama administration to begin withdrawing its forces from Afghanistan.
>
> America’s clandestine war in Pakistan has for the most part been carried
> out
> by armed drones operated by the C.I.A. . . . But interviews in recent weeks
> revealed that on at least one occasion, the Afghans went on the offensive
> and destroyed a militant weapons cache.
>
> The decision to expand American military activity in Pakistan, which would
> almost certainly have to be approved by President Obama himself, would
> amount to the *opening of a new front in the nine-year-old war*, which has
> grown increasingly unpopular among Americans. . . . [O]ne senior American
> officer said, “We’ve never been as close as we are now to getting the
> go-ahead to go across.”
>
> The officials who described the proposal and the intelligence
> operations *declined
> to be identified by name discussing classified informatio
>
> 

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Re: Looking for a name for a hardware thingie

[Jerry Johnson]

Including a huge starbucks gift card.

Drinks are on me!



On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Ras Tafari  wrote:

>
> jerry knows/has everything
>
> On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Jerry Johnson  wrote:
> >
> > if it something akin to this:
> >
> > http://www.artright.com/images/tools-accessories/Z-18-300.jpg
> >
> > those are called z clips or z brackets.
> >
> > finding ones to match, though, might be tough. a photo would definitely
> > help.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Medic  wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Bracket, Hasp, Hinge?
> >>
> >> On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Sandra Clark  >> >wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > I need to replace some hardware that holds a panel on my headboard.
>  (The
> >> > panel is meant to be able to be used with either side pointing
> outwards),
> >> > but I don't know what to call the hardware that holds it.
> >> >
> >> > There are 6 of them, 2 on the top and bottom and 1 on the left and
> right.
> >> >  They are held in by screws.  The portion that the screw goes in is
> >> larger
> >> > and rounder and then the part that holds the panel is longer and more
> >> like
> >> > an arm.  The thing is designed so that the longer arm swivels onto the
> >> > panel
> >> > and holds it in place.
> >> >
> >> > Anyone want to chime in with a name of what I am looking for to
> >> facilitate
> >> > my search?  Its really hard to search for something without knowing
> the
> >> > name
> >> > of it.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Looking for a name for a hardware thingie

[Jerry Johnson]

if it something akin to this:

http://www.artright.com/images/tools-accessories/Z-18-300.jpg

those are called z clips or z brackets.

finding ones to match, though, might be tough. a photo would definitely
help.



On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Medic  wrote:

>
> Bracket, Hasp, Hinge?
>
> On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Sandra Clark  >wrote:
>
> >
> > I need to replace some hardware that holds a panel on my headboard.  (The
> > panel is meant to be able to be used with either side pointing outwards),
> > but I don't know what to call the hardware that holds it.
> >
> > There are 6 of them, 2 on the top and bottom and 1 on the left and right.
> >  They are held in by screws.  The portion that the screw goes in is
> larger
> > and rounder and then the part that holds the panel is longer and more
> like
> > an arm.  The thing is designed so that the longer arm swivels onto the
> > panel
> > and holds it in place.
> >
> > Anyone want to chime in with a name of what I am looking for to
> facilitate
> > my search?  Its really hard to search for something without knowing the
> > name
> > of it.
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Ghostly Photos of Occupied Amsterdam Mashed Up with Modern Amsterdam

[Jerry Johnson]

Fascinating.


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traffic sheep - my favorite image of the weekend

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Re: Irony, hypocracy, or just plain funny? Lawyers for Julian Assange cry foul over leak of sex-case papers

[Jerry Johnson]

Actually, it has _nothing_ to do with the Freedom of Information Act.

FOIA was never meant for ALL work product or documents produced by the
government. Never.

It does not cover things like the Valerie Plame incident, nor the more
recent outing of the lead intel officer in Pakistan.

And doesn't affect corporations at all. Especially not details like the home
phone and address of corporate officers, nor the preschool and classroom
assignments for corporate worker's children.

Should corporate officers (possibly our society's second estate) be held to
a different standard than members of the fourth estate? I personally don't
think so.

Working for the government DOES carry with it different rules than working
for the private sector. But it does not remove all protections.

As others pointed out, the "it's different" defense is almost ALWAYS a key
statement made excusing hypocrisy.



On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 7:04 PM, denstar  wrote:

>
> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Michael Dinowitz wrote:
> ...
> > If you take a government contract do you expect all of your
> > information and reviews of your actions to become public knowledge?
>
> Actually, that is kinda what's supposed to happen.
>
> Working for the government is different than working as/for a private
> citizen.
>
> I think it has something to do with the Freedom of Information act.
>
> :Den
>
> --
> No intelligent man believes that anybody ever willingly errs or
> willingly does base and evil deeds; they are well aware that all who
> do base and evil things to them unwillingly.
> Protagoras
>
> 

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Re: Irony, hypocrisy, or just plain funny? Lawyers for Julian Assange cry foul over leak of sex-case papers

[Jerry Johnson]

hypocrisy.  hypocrisy. jeez.


On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Jerry Johnson  wrote:

> This tickled my funny bone this morning.
>
>
> http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/lawyers-cry-foul-over-leak-of-julian-assange-sex-case-papers/story-e6frg6so-1225973548657
>
>
> Lawyers cry foul over leak of Julian Assange sex-case papers
>
> *LAWYERS for Julian Assange have expressed anger about an alleged smear
> campaign against the Australian WikiLeaks founder.*
>
> Incriminating police files were published in the British newspaper that has
> used him as its source for hundreds of leaked US embassy cables.
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Irony, hypocracy, or just plain funny? Lawyers for Julian Assange cry foul over leak of sex-case papers

[Jerry Johnson]

This tickled my funny bone this morning.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/lawyers-cry-foul-over-leak-of-julian-assange-sex-case-papers/story-e6frg6so-1225973548657


Lawyers cry foul over leak of Julian Assange sex-case papers

*LAWYERS for Julian Assange have expressed anger about an alleged smear
campaign against the Australian WikiLeaks founder.*

Incriminating police files were published in the British newspaper that has
used him as its source for hundreds of leaked US embassy cables.


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Re: Word lens

[Jerry Johnson]

that cannot be real.

but the concept is awesome!



On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Paul Ihrig  wrote:

>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2OfQdYrHRs
>
>
>
> http://www.google.com/m/url?client=safari&ei=JcMLTYiPCIiJlQed7cCKAw&hl=en&oe=UTF-8&q=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v%3Dh2OfQdYrHRs&ved=0CB4QFjAD&usg=AFQjCNH_xGVcxyoLyp90WkdP_GqEp711Lg
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Neat set of map images from Florida with interesting designs

[Jerry Johnson]

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/09/human_landscapes_in_sw_florida.html

pretty cool. It makes me want to wander through google maps looking for
more.

Jerry


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Re: hahahahahah... hahahahahaahh iran you suck

[Jerry Johnson]

It cannot be called terrorism because it was not an attack against a
civilian population with the intent of inciting terror above and beyond the
fear the incident itself caused.

It was an attack against a military target, with no loss of life, who's
purpose was to delay the acquisition of nuclear weapons (of mass
destruction)

It _was_ definitely cyber warfare. It was most likely a sneak attack. But it
certainly wasn't terrorism.



On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Vivec  wrote:

>
> If it was done by Israel, it cannot be called terrorism.
>
> On 15 December 2010 16:40, G Money  wrote:
>
> >
> > H.if we can do it to them...they can do it to us.
> >
> > I fear this may only be the first salvo in what becomes a disastrous game
> > of
> > state-sponsored computer "terrorism".
> >
> >
>
>
> 

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Re: Dick Cheney charged in Nigeria for making over US180m in bribes

[Jerry Johnson]

The Nigerian government has the gall to complain about _anyone_ else about
corruption?

That is rich.

(or course, it is rich on fraud scams)

Not that I am at all a Cheney fan (I am not sure if I would pee on him if he
was on fire), this is the height of irony.



On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Vivec  wrote:

>
> Nigeria charge Dick Cheney with making more than US$180m in Bribes to
> officials. http://ow.ly/3nSpx
>
> I wonder if the US will support his extradition to Nigeria to face the
> charges and potential jail time?
>
>
> 

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Re: Photosynthetic hornets

[Jerry Johnson]

So basement dwelling code monkey couch potatoes who never venture outside
would be the skinny ones?

And girls would have to wear bikinis to be fully nourished?

I can see why you dream of this.

Of course, your brethren in Northern climes are not as happy with the
thought of sun=food, especially not those heading into a frigid winter.

On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Vivec  wrote:

>
> THe purest form of energy consumption is through Photosynthesis.
> We need to be able to genetically modify ourselves to absorb sunlight and
> convert it to energy.
> Simple.
> *nod* *nod*
>
> I've fantasized about this for several years now...was even going to write
> a
> short story.
> Never got around to it of course.
>
>


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Re: 4 feet of snow and more to go!

[Jerry Johnson]

Snow is like the stuff you put in the margarita glass before the tequila
goes in.



On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Ray Champagne  wrote:

>
> Coke, Dust, Toot, Line, Nose Candy, Snow. Sneeze, Powder, White Pony,
> Flake,
> The Lady, Cain
>
> On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Vivec  wrote:
>
> >
> > Oh YEAH??
> >
> > Well I.don't.even.know.what.snow IS!
> >
> > HA!
> > Beat that!
>


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Re: Would this be Tour-orism?

[Jerry Johnson]

Well, we still do not have an proof of religion or nationality of those
sharks. There is no proof those sharks are NOT Israeli.

Were they using fake British passports, by any chance?

On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Michael Dinowitz <
mdino...@houseoffusion.com> wrote:

>
> You would at least hope that Israel would equip the sharks with freaken
> laserbeams on their heads. :)
>
>
> Egyptian Expert Shoots Down Conspiracy Theory Blaming Israel for Shark
> Attacks - Yasmine Fathi
> Mahmoud Hanafy, a professor of marine biology at the Suez Canal University,
> said it is "sad" that Egyptian national TV helped perpetuate the theory
> that
> last week's shark attacks at Sharm el-Sheikh were part of an Israeli
> conspiracy. On Sunday, Gen. Abdel-Fadeel Shosha, the governor of South
> Sinai, phoned a TV program to say that it is possible that Israeli
> intelligence was behind the incidents.
>Hanafy said the Oceanic White Tip shark, blamed for the attacks, does
> indeed exist in Egypt's waters. He added, "It is sad that they made a
> person
> whose only knowledge of sharks comes from the movie "Jaws" go on national
> TV
> to propagate this mumbo-jumbo."  (Al-Ahram-Egypt)
>
> http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/1343/Egypt/Politics-/Expert-shoots-down-conspiracy-theory-blaming-Israe.aspx
>
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Re: You Personal Information Available on the Internet

[Jerry Johnson]

I still maintain the list of vital sites was not newsworthy, was not
uncovering nefarious government misdeeds.

It was completely and only a dick move.

No other reason for it but that he is a prick, and looking for a big media
spotlight, and has a particular hard-on against the USA.

What was the greater good he was serving on releasing those again?

On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Vivec  wrote:

>
> Except that's a false analogy.
>
> Here's a better one:
>
> People working for your company were responsible for murdering 12 people in
> a parking lot.
> Your company covered it up.
>
> A newspaper was sent video tape and other evidence showing what happened,
> and proving that your company lied that it did not know about the event
> when
> questioned.
> This Newspaper publishes the news.
>
> Sometime later someone else sends the newspaper emails that appear to have
> been passed between your company's directors and the top management and PR
> people in your company.
>
> They contain what the Directors said about your competitors, and your
> clients, and some of your shareholders.
>
> It shows that while your staff and your Directors say one thing, the
> company
> actually functions quite differently behind the scenes. It shows that your
> company was supporting a hostile takeover of another firm, unbeknown to the
> shareholders.
>
> It shows that your company negotiated with Companies previously thought to
> be direct competitors, and it shows that your company contributed heavily
> to
> firms knowing that those firms funded your competitors.
>
> The Newspaper confirms that these documents which it received are accurate,
> and,in association with other media houses, prints it.
> Your company's shareholders are shocked and alarmed at these email
> conversations.
>
> You decide to shut down the newspaper. But its broken no laws and there is
> no legal way to do so.
>
> So you decide to go after the newspaper's owner, and force a rape case
> through court. When that case is thrown out, you ask a Senator to pressure
> a
> judge into hearing the case in another state.
> You then issue a warrant for the Newspaper owner's arrest, on this rape
> charge.
>
> You use Government Senators to pressure other businesses to drop the
> Newspaper.
> You threaten their supplier of Ink to drop support for them.
> You threaten the trucks that deliver their newspapers to drop their
> support.
>
> You get Credit Card companies to stop all payments to that Newspaper.
>
> That's a far, far better analogy to what is occurring with Wikileaks than
> what you have posted.
>
> On 7 December 2010 10:59, Cameron Childress  wrote:
>
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 9:55 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey 
> > wrote:
> > > And yes, it does remind me of a certain website that has been
> > > oft-discussed as of
> >
> > Glad someone saw the connection.
> >
> > -Cameron
> >
> > ...
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: SHOCKING NEWS!

[Jerry Johnson]

GOURDS!

On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Rick Root  wrote:

>
> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Rick Eidson  wrote:
>
> >
> > I have been a Sprint customer for about 11 years. I have watched everyone
> > complain about their services and I have complained about Sprints... But
> > when I think about it I figure each has there faults. I will stick to
> > Sprint.
> >
> > How dare you involve logic in a cf-community thread!
>
> GUARDS!
>
>


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Re: Please keep my wife in your thoughts/prayers/whatever....

[Jerry Johnson]

Wonderful news!

So great to hear.

On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:

>
> Great news!
>
> -Cameron
>
> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Scott Stroz  wrote:
> > Thanx everyone, you guys rock.
> >
> > UPDATE: The surgery is done, Dr said she removed 3 cysts and does not
> > think they are cancerous (and tests are being done on what was removed
> > to make sure). She was able to do the entire procedure laproscopically
> > so recovery will be much shorter.
> >
> > Should be able to see her in about an hour and take her home in about 3.
>
> 

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Re: Brazil formally recognises Palestinian State

[Jerry Johnson]

Nothing will top the memory of "haff-eye-ella moo-chada" (Raffaella
Muchada). Dang.

But thanks.


On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 2:11 PM, G Money  wrote:

>
> Your memories are accurate. Here's some new memories for ya:
>
> http://best.complex.com/lists/The-50-Hottest-Brazilian-Women/ellen-rocche
>
> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Jerry Johnson  wrote:
>
> >
> > I was trying to determine whether my memories were accurate, or where
> > colored or completely false (arrived at through bad male romance novels
> and
> > movies like Arnold's Collateral Damage, or Mack Bolan novels, and Tom
> > Clancy
> > books)
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Brazil formally recognises Palestinian State

[Jerry Johnson]

I was trying to determine whether my memories were accurate, or where
colored or completely false (arrived at through bad male romance novels and
movies like Arnold's Collateral Damage, or Mack Bolan novels, and Tom Clancy
books)


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Re: Well, wikileaks finally lost me

[Jerry Johnson]

According to the top media houses, they told wikileaks not to publish those,
which they did anyway.

Don't care if no one has been injured yet. It was still a dickish move.

The release of the video, although controversial, is exactly the kinds of
things wikileaks SHOULD be spending their time on.

The list of vital targets is not.



On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Vivec  wrote:

>
> Wikileaks negotiates with all the top Media Houses in the world, including
> Reuters and the Associated Press on what to release, and how to release it.
> So all these Media Houses have a say in what is released by Wikileaks, and
> what they themselves publish.
>
> So don't just hate Wikileaks, hate those international media houses as
> well.
>
> Also, hate with the knowledge that to date no world government has produced
> any credible information stating that any of their personnel were harmed,
> endangered, or the worst killed as a result of any of the information that
> Wikileaks has released.
>
> Yet they are all terribly afraid of information coming into the public
> domain.
>
> The list that you cite is common sense, and anyone with half a brain and
> Google Maps could have compiled it.
>
> I would have thought the most controversial thing was the release of the
> video showing the killing of civilians that the US Defence Department had
> previously lied about and tried to cover up.
>
> On 6 December 2010 14:39, Jerry Johnson  wrote:
>
> >
> > They moved me from "cool" to "don't care" to "those guys are dicks".
> >
> > It really is like they are 10 year olds with the teacher's diary.
> >
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11923766
> >
> > List of facilities 'vital to US security' leaked
> >
> >
>
>
> 

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[Jerry Johnson]

They moved me from "cool" to "don't care" to "those guys are dicks".

It really is like they are 10 year olds with the teacher's diary.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11923766

List of facilities 'vital to US security' leaked

A long list of key facilities around the world that the US describes as
vital to its national security has been released by Wikileaks.

In February 2009 the State Department asked all US missions abroad to list
all installations whose loss could critically affect US national security.

The list includes pipelines, communication and transport hubs.

Several UK sites are listed, including cable locations, satellite sites and
BAE Systems plants.

BBC diplomatic correspondent Jonathan Marcus says this is probably the most
controversial document yet from the Wikileaks organisation.

...


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Re: Brazil formally recognises Palestinian State

[Jerry Johnson]

And was Argentina where a synagogue was attacked in the last decade or so by
Muslim extremists?


On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Judah McAuley  wrote:

>
> More so Argentina, if I recall, but some to Brazil and to Chile.
>
> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Jerry Johnson  wrote:
> >
> > Isn't Brazil the place all those Nazis ended up after the fall of the 3rd
> > Reich? (real question)
> >
>
>


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Re: Brazil formally recognises Palestinian State

[Jerry Johnson]

Isn't Brazil the place all those Nazis ended up after the fall of the 3rd
Reich? (real question)



On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 12:30 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote:

>
> > "Luiz Inacio Lula Da Silva, in his last month as Brazil's president,
> caused
> > anger in Israel and the United States by officially acknowledging
> > Palestinian sovereignty over territory occupied by Israel since 1967.
>
> Interesting since not even the President of the Palestinian Authority
> is sure they exist
>
> http://www.voanews.com/english/news/middle-east/Abbas-Threatens-to-Dissolve-Palestinian-Authority-111317214.html
>
> In a television interview Friday, Mr. Abbas said he will push to end
> Palestinian self-rule in the occupied territories if Israel does not
> stop building settlements on the land, and if U.S.-backed negotiations
> collapse.
>
> Pointing to Israel's occupation of the West Bank, President Abbas said
> he cannot remain the president of an authority that does not exist.
>
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Re: I can here him now "Hey baby, want a ride?"

[Jerry Johnson]

Aaahhh!

That will haunt me for weeks!

Here indeed!

On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Medic  wrote:

>
> And I can "there" him now.
>
> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Jerry Johnson  wrote:
>
> >
> > http://www.oddee.com/_media/imgs/articles2/a97266_g176_1-shopping.jpg
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Arsenic bacterium...

[Jerry Johnson]

that and even the carbon-based extremophiles they have found like in and
around hydrothermal vents goes to show life is a lot tougher than we often
think it is.

On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Eric Roberts <
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:

>
> Here's another article from cnn:
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/12/02/nasa.extraterrestrial.life/index.html?hpt=T
> 1
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Please keep my wife in your thoughts/prayers/whatever....

[Jerry Johnson]

Scott, my hopes and prayers are with you.

Please take some comfort in knowing that you and she are blessed to be here
and now, with the best doctors and health care in the history of mankind.

It may not seem like it at times, but we as a species are better off in most
ways than ever before.

And if possible, take to heart the words of Jim Valvano, which I was
reminded of last night:

“To me, there are three things we all should do every day. We should do this
every day of our lives. Number one is laugh. You should laugh every day.
Number two is think. You should spend some time in thought. And number three
is, you should have your emotions moved to tears, could be happiness or joy.
But think about it. If you laugh, you think, and you cry, that's a full day.
That's a heck of a day. You do that seven days a week, you're going to have
something special.” - Jim Valvano

That is indeed a heck of a day.
Jerry

> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Scott Stroz  wrote:
> >
> > On monday morning, my wife is scheduled to have surgery.

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Re: KC vs. DEN

[Jerry Johnson]

Hold it, hold it hold it.

I forgot about Pioli.

Chiefs have it by a landslide.



On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Jerry Johnson  wrote:

> It's always all about the Patriots.
>
> Denver has ex-assistant coach, running back, situational defensive lineman,
> and camera crew.
> KC has second string qb and first string linebacker
>
> Going to have to give the provisional nod to Denver.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Ras Tafari  wrote:
>
>>
>> i took cassell in my fantasy league this week anticipating this outcome!
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 2:16 PM, G Money  wrote:
>> >
>> > .On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Ray Champagne 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Denver is getting 8.5 points in this one.  I am in the lead in my
>> office
>> >> pickem pool and cannot decide if I should roll with the home team (KC)
>> or
>> >> if
>> >> the good Denver D is going to show up this week.  And I NEED to have a
>> >> solid
>> >> week to protect my lead.
>> >>
>> >> Any advice?
>> >>
>> >> Have we ever done a pool for cf-community?  Just for fun?  Seems like
>> that
>> >> would be a good time...maybe next year.
>> >>
>> >
>> > The Broncos beat the chiefs 49-29 in Denver just 3 weeks ago. Since
>> then,
>> > Denver has lost two and KC has won 2. Broncos coach is on the hot seat
>> and
>> > may not survive the season, the team appears to have lost interest. KC's
>> > offense has awoken since then and is suddenly the 4th highest scoring
>> > offense in the league. Denver has the worst statistical defense in
>> football.
>> > KC is undefeated at Arrowhead this year.
>> >
>> > ALL of these things point to a KC stomping this Sunday.
>> But..manit's
>> > still a divisional game and KC rarely...i mean...RARELY...blows out
>> Denver.
>> > Denver always gives us fits.
>> >
>> > I think KC will win, and might win bigbut I just can't give you the
>> 100%
>> > assurance to pull the trigger on this one. My wife chose San Diego over
>> > Oakland in her survivor pool.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> 

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Re: KC vs. DEN

[Jerry Johnson]

It's always all about the Patriots.

Denver has ex-assistant coach, running back, situational defensive lineman,
and camera crew.
KC has second string qb and first string linebacker

Going to have to give the provisional nod to Denver.



On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Ras Tafari  wrote:

>
> i took cassell in my fantasy league this week anticipating this outcome!
>
> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 2:16 PM, G Money  wrote:
> >
> > .On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Ray Champagne 
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Denver is getting 8.5 points in this one.  I am in the lead in my office
> >> pickem pool and cannot decide if I should roll with the home team (KC)
> or
> >> if
> >> the good Denver D is going to show up this week.  And I NEED to have a
> >> solid
> >> week to protect my lead.
> >>
> >> Any advice?
> >>
> >> Have we ever done a pool for cf-community?  Just for fun?  Seems like
> that
> >> would be a good time...maybe next year.
> >>
> >
> > The Broncos beat the chiefs 49-29 in Denver just 3 weeks ago. Since then,
> > Denver has lost two and KC has won 2. Broncos coach is on the hot seat
> and
> > may not survive the season, the team appears to have lost interest. KC's
> > offense has awoken since then and is suddenly the 4th highest scoring
> > offense in the league. Denver has the worst statistical defense in
> football.
> > KC is undefeated at Arrowhead this year.
> >
> > ALL of these things point to a KC stomping this Sunday.
> But..manit's
> > still a divisional game and KC rarely...i mean...RARELY...blows out
> Denver.
> > Denver always gives us fits.
> >
> > I think KC will win, and might win bigbut I just can't give you the
> 100%
> > assurance to pull the trigger on this one. My wife chose San Diego over
> > Oakland in her survivor pool.
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Russia wins 2018 World Cup hosting

[Jerry Johnson]

"The CPJ lists Russia as "the third deadliest country in the world for
journalists" since 1991, exceeded in the number of deaths only by Algeria
(1993–1996) and post-invasion
Iraq.[20]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia#cite_note-cpj2-19>
It
is more revealing, perhaps, to set Russia alongside its G20 partners — not
just the USA and France, but also Saudi Arabia and China (see Table 1, in
IFJ 
report).[21]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia#cite_note-20>
Russia's
problem, shared by certain other members of G20 (India, Brazil and Mexico),
is not simply one of the number of deaths but that the killing with impunity
has persisted over time."

...over three hundred deaths and disappearances since 1993...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia>It really
is going on. A lot.



On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Medic  wrote:

>
> I thought you said kill.
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Jerry Johnson  wrote:
>
> >
> > Or news reports.
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/29/AR2010112903341.html
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Medic  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > You read too many cold war novels.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Jerry Johnson 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I guess we shouldn't expect any reporting of those games.
> > > >
> > > > I certainly wouldn't try to be a journalist in Russia. The government
> > > kills
> > > > you if it doesn't like your writing.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Russia wins 2018 World Cup hosting

[Jerry Johnson]

Or news reports.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/29/AR2010112903341.html

On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Medic  wrote:

>
> You read too many cold war novels.
>
> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Jerry Johnson  wrote:
>
> >
> > I guess we shouldn't expect any reporting of those games.
> >
> > I certainly wouldn't try to be a journalist in Russia. The government
> kills
> > you if it doesn't like your writing.
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: I keep thinking "Why is Steven Tyler's photo on this story?"

[Jerry Johnson]

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/CRIME/12/02/california.publicist.killed/c1main.chasen.gi.jpg


On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Cameron Childress wrote:

>
> Not anymore.
>
> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Jerry Johnson  wrote:
> >
> > http://www.cnn.com/
> >
> > If the front story is still the murdered publicist...
>
> 

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Russia wins 2018 World Cup hosting

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I guess we shouldn't expect any reporting of those games.

I certainly wouldn't try to be a journalist in Russia. The government kills
you if it doesn't like your writing.


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Re: Woohoo! More stars!

[Jerry Johnson]

Hey, we were talking about roads on another thread...

Oh, wait. Not interstate.

Never mind, carry on.

Is an inner state like Kentucky or South Dakota?


On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Vivec  wrote:

> ...If you create...an inner state that functions


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I keep thinking "Why is Steven Tyler's photo on this story?"

[Jerry Johnson]

http://www.cnn.com/

If the front story is still the murdered publicist...


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It is not often I am rendered speechless by science. Solar Roadways....

[Jerry Johnson]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep4L18zOEYI

Solar / Smart roadways

That is cool sh&t.


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Re: I just finished my 50,000th word of my "novel" this month

[Jerry Johnson]

I started on a Western/Historical Novel following the same path my
gfather followed to get to America in the 1860s.

But ran out of ideas and facts.

So I fell back on an old idea I had for a fantasy/swords and sorcery story,
centered around the founding of "The Adventurers Inn".

The basic idea being that there are Adventuring Parties (like
those immortalized in every book and story in the sci/fi-fantasy section of
the bookstore). And that people in those times and places would follow those
parties like we follow celebrity gossip and sports teams.

All centered around the Adventurers Inn, like a local sports bar.

(merchandise "the sword that X used to kill the dragon", trades between
parties, substitutions, farm system for new talent, team logos, etc)

Dumb idea, but fun to riff on, and lots of room for follow on short stories.

Sometime in Jan I will throw it up online. I will _not_ suggest anyone else
read it, partake at your own risk.

Jerry



On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Ras Tafari  wrote:

>
> congrats ... what's it about?
>
> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 6:07 AM, Casey Dougall
>  wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Jerry Johnson  wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I joined that national event, the National Novel Writing Month, where a
> >> varied group signs up to write 50,000 words of their novel during the
> month
> >> of November.
> >>
> >> I just finished.
> >>
> >> Writing is not easy for me. Writing to a deadline is near impossible.
> >>
> >> I am again reminded why I code for living.
> >>
> >> And to all you who write words for a living, bless you.
> >>
> >> Jerry
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Congratulations Jerry, that rocks!
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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I just finished my 50,000th word of my "novel" this month

[Jerry Johnson]

I joined that national event, the National Novel Writing Month, where a
varied group signs up to write 50,000 words of their novel during the month
of November.

I just finished.

Writing is not easy for me. Writing to a deadline is near impossible.

I am again reminded why I code for living.

And to all you who write words for a living, bless you.

Jerry


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Re: zip drive anyone? bueller?

[Jerry Johnson]

God, I should have claimed no knowledge, and never opened this box.

Anyone need a 14.4 mac modem (global village)?
A 9600 isa modem/fax card?
a handspring?
a palm?
a microsoft fingerprint mouse?
a handful of linksys network storage links (NSLU2)
an elographics touch screen (with isa card)
a dozen 24port super stacker II dual speed hubs?
a dozen laplink cable sets (serial and parallel)?
two dozen Faralon PhoneNet connectors?
4 FDDI eisa cards?

I am NOT going to open the box under this one.


On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Erika L. Rich  wrote:

>
> Damn I know Ive got at least 3 of them with dozens of assorted media. Boxed
> up though.
>
> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Jerry Johnson  wrote:
>
> >
> > I have 2 in a box at home.
> > send me your snailmail address, and ill get one out to you tomorrow.
> >
> > .
> >
>
>
> 

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Re: zip drive anyone? bueller?

[Jerry Johnson]

The mac folks here think their blueberry g3 might still have the drivers on
it. (it is now a scanning station, used to be a designer's box)

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Eric Roberts <
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:

>
> I might have a serial zip drive...I think I saw it the other day.  I may
> also still have an internal one laying aroundbut I am not sure if I got
> rid of that already.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tony [mailto:tonyw...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 3:17 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: zip drive anyone? bueller?
>
>
> anyone have one of these?
> a colleague needs to get some data from one and we've got nothing, and no
> local shops have anything
>
> Tony Weeg
> Sr. Web Applications Architect & Developer Navtrak, Inc.
> Smart Companies Drive Navtrak
> www.navtrakgps.com
> 800.787.2337
>
>
>
> 

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Re: zip drive anyone? bueller?

[Jerry Johnson]

Boston/Quincy.


On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Ras Tafari  wrote:

>
> JMILOJ
>
> where ARE YOU!!??
>
> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Ray Champagne 
> wrote:
> >
> > I threw one of these out the last time I moved!  Dammit.  I am willing to
> > bet a steak dinner Jerry Johnson has one within 25 feet of whereever he
> is
> > right now. :)
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Tony  wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> anyone have one of these?
> >> a colleague needs to get some data from one and we've got nothing, and
> >> no local shops have anything
> >>
> >> Tony Weeg
> >> Sr. Web Applications Architect & Developer
> >> Navtrak, Inc.
> >> Smart Companies Drive Navtrak
> >> www.navtrakgps.com
> >> 800.787.2337
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: zip drive anyone? bueller?

[Jerry Johnson]

fwiw, many copy shops (like kinkos) still have drive stacks of all the old
kinds, just for cases like these.



On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Jerry Johnson  wrote:

> I have 2 in a box at home.
> send me your snailmail address, and ill get one out to you tomorrow.
>
> .
>
> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Ray Champagne wrote:
>
>>
>> I threw one of these out the last time I moved!  Dammit.  I am willing to
>> bet a steak dinner Jerry Johnson has one within 25 feet of whereever he is
>> right now. :)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Tony  wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > anyone have one of these?
>> > a colleague needs to get some data from one and we've got nothing, and
>> > no local shops have anything
>> >
>> > Tony Weeg
>> > Sr. Web Applications Architect & Developer
>> > Navtrak, Inc.
>> > Smart Companies Drive Navtrak
>> > www.navtrakgps.com
>> > 800.787.2337
>> >
>> >
>>
>> 

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Re: zip drive anyone? bueller?

[Jerry Johnson]

I have 2 in a box at home.
send me your snailmail address, and ill get one out to you tomorrow.

.
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Ray Champagne  wrote:

>
> I threw one of these out the last time I moved!  Dammit.  I am willing to
> bet a steak dinner Jerry Johnson has one within 25 feet of whereever he is
> right now. :)
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Tony  wrote:
>
> >
> > anyone have one of these?
> > a colleague needs to get some data from one and we've got nothing, and
> > no local shops have anything
> >
> > Tony Weeg
> > Sr. Web Applications Architect & Developer
> > Navtrak, Inc.
> > Smart Companies Drive Navtrak
> > www.navtrakgps.com
> > 800.787.2337
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: BREAKING: Netflix under attack

[Jerry Johnson]

The little ISPs will huff and puff, but probably get ignored.

But those few highway robbers^h^h^h^h national ISPs with big clubs will take
what they want.



On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Casey Dougall <
ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote:

>
> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Jerry Johnson  wrote:
>
> >
> > Unfortunately, they have bucks and members of Congress and the entire
> > weight
> > of the US Gubberment on their side.
> >
> > Yeah, they CAN do what they want.
> >
> > Your choice is to accept it and keep paying, or boycott it, and become a
> > voluntary member of the disenfranchised class.
> >
> >
>
>
> Considering there are 325 ISP's in my area code alone, how could you manage
> this type of thing from Netflix side?
>
>
> 

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Re: BREAKING: Netflix under attack

[Jerry Johnson]

Unfortunately, they have bucks and members of Congress and the entire weight
of the US Gubberment on their side.

Yeah, they CAN do what they want.

Your choice is to accept it and keep paying, or boycott it, and become a
voluntary member of the disenfranchised class.


On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Casey Dougall <
ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote:

>
> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Jacob  wrote:
>
> > As much as I hate to see it, I believe the notion of Net Neutrality is
> > dead...
> >
>
> No way...
>
> Netflix pays Level 3 to get video out through major backbones to the
> individual carriers. Those local isp's charge there members for services
> delivered to the home. They can't double dip like this.
>
>
> 

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Re: Dog moves on

[Jerry Johnson]

Sorry for your loss. It never gets any easier.

Maybe she can hang out with Leslie Neilson. Does she like physical comedy?

I bet he would be a good dog-taker-carer.

Jerry

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Medic  wrote:

>
> Godspeed.
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 1:31 PM, denstar  wrote:
>
> >
> > Well, our German Sheppard, Dog, will be moving on in about an hour.
> >
> > She's a wonderful dog.  Been very sweet and helped a lot in dealing
> > with Jack's passing, and keeping our other dog company.
> >
> > She was an athlete in her youth, but her body is now giving out on her.
> >
> > So I got her ripped last night, gave her a nice doggy massage, and
> > slept with her for a while.  Now it's time.
> >
> > She'll be missed.
>


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Re: Surely, you can't be serious...

[Jerry Johnson]

I am serious. And don't call me Shirley.

Scotty, do you like movies about gladiators?

Jerry


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Re: Do we really need to 'pardon' a turkey?

[Jerry Johnson]

Of all the things to complain about with regards to our government, this is
your hot-button issue?

I like the pardon. It is maybe the least asshatty thing our government does
each year.



On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Judah McAuley wrote:

>
> We probably wouldn't spend much less not doing it. How much do two
> turkeys cost? The President will be doing something then, isn't like
> he's off the clock. Of all the stupid crap that the government does,
> this would seem pretty low on the outrage list to me. Mostly they just
> do it because it is a tradition, something like 60 years or so. People
> like it when their Leader participates in spectacles that have
> something to do with their own lives. We could probably save a couple
> thousand dollars not putting up Christmas lights around the White
> House either, but people would bitch about us abandoning Christianity.
>
> Judah
>
> On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Scott Stroz  wrote:
> >
> > Seriously, is this really necessary? Do we really need to spend time
> > and money on 'pardoning' a turkey.
> >
> > I am sick and tired of all this stupid bullshit our government does.
> > It wastes time and money. Imagine how much money we could save if we
> > got rid of all this stupid shit.
> >
>
> 

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Re: hat collection

[Jerry Johnson]

Ah, yeah, didn't notice the "dust free" requirement.

If dust-free is the goal, then sealed containers are important, so
custom-made acrylic boxes are probably your best bet.

another group that is great for custom acrylic work is salt-water aquarium
shops. they often have the ability to custom craft acrylic boxes, and yours
should be cheaper since you dont need water-tight nor water-thick
construction.



On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Scott Raley  wrote:

>
> Well I have seen the plastic pegs to place them on an angle. I'm more
> concerned about keeping them dust free. I don't know that I'm worried about
> lights because I will have enough recessed lights they should show fine
> (I've installed lights close around the wall so they will get some light
> but
> not enough that the light will affect them over time and they are away from
> sunlight as well.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:jmi...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 12:31 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: hat collection
>
>
> do you want them behind glass?
>
> I was thinking more of like a set of stacked shelved on a wall, slanted
> like
> a shoe rack but up high, black felt lined (with that non-reflective felt).
> with a small halo spot shining from the shelf above onto each hat. with
> each
> hat MAYBE on a peg to rise it slightly off the actual shelf and float it.
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Scott Raley  wrote:
>
> >
> > Yes they are more expensive than the hats. I've seen some cheap plastic
> > things at craft shop, maybe that will suffice for what I need.  Maybe
> > making
> > my own would be better because they I would make an entire shelf, not an
> > individual hat and fit as many on the shelf as I can.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: William Bowen [mailto:william.bo...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 12:12 PM
> > To: cf-community
> > Subject: Re: hat collection
> >
> >
> > A little spendy, but if the hats are unique, it would be worth it...
> >
> >
> >
>
> http://www.crystalcaseworks.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_
> > Code=CAP-HAT
> >
> > http://www.teamlogocases.com/index.php/cPath/110
> >
> > With access to an acrylic supply store you could make your own...
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Scott Raley  wrote:
> > >
> > > I have some unique hats that I have collected and they are in a sealed
> > > container. Now that I have a sports area putting together in the
> basement
> > > I'm going to display them. I don't want to just put them on a shelf and
> > have
> > > to dust them. Anyone know if display sets/cases for hats?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> 

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Re: hat collection

[Jerry Johnson]

do you want them behind glass?

I was thinking more of like a set of stacked shelved on a wall, slanted like
a shoe rack but up high, black felt lined (with that non-reflective felt).
with a small halo spot shining from the shelf above onto each hat. with each
hat MAYBE on a peg to rise it slightly off the actual shelf and float it.


On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Scott Raley  wrote:

>
> Yes they are more expensive than the hats. I've seen some cheap plastic
> things at craft shop, maybe that will suffice for what I need.  Maybe
> making
> my own would be better because they I would make an entire shelf, not an
> individual hat and fit as many on the shelf as I can.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: William Bowen [mailto:william.bo...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 12:12 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: hat collection
>
>
> A little spendy, but if the hats are unique, it would be worth it...
>
>
> http://www.crystalcaseworks.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_
> Code=CAP-HAT
>
> http://www.teamlogocases.com/index.php/cPath/110
>
> With access to an acrylic supply store you could make your own...
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Scott Raley  wrote:
> >
> > I have some unique hats that I have collected and they are in a sealed
> > container. Now that I have a sports area putting together in the basement
> > I'm going to display them. I don't want to just put them on a shelf and
> have
> > to dust them. Anyone know if display sets/cases for hats?
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Did you ever have to make up your mind

[Jerry Johnson]

Depending where he is in Ontario, he MIGHT be your neighbor to the south.

(My ancestors moved north out of Ontario into Michigan.)



On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Medic  wrote:

>
> Haha, actually no. It's sunny and clear at about 39 degrees.
> It's probably on it's way here.
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Ray Champagne 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Well, hello neighbor to the North.  I'm in Minneapolis.  This weather
> > hitting you today too?
>


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Re: So long and thanks for all the fish

[Jerry Johnson]

I've added 7 people to my kill file, and don't have to suffer through most
of the junk.

But I know what you mean, there is not much fun or interest left while
wading through all the crap.

Zaphod - keep your towel dry.

Jerry

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 6:24 AM, Scott Stewart wrote:

>
> I know what ya mean... it is starting to get old (even though I've started
> some of it) I'm finding myself deleting a lot more than I save..
>
>
> So long prez... keep yer heads in check...
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 12:17 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: So long and thanks for all the fish
>
>
> Well peeps, I think I've finally breached some kind if limit.  This group
> has become more of an irritant than enjoyment in the past few years.  So
> much "I'm right and you're a far (left|right) nut job" crap floating
> around,
> I feel like i'm in the middle of some big family argument every time I
> check
> my mail.
>
> Anyway, if you need to reach me, you know how to get a hold of me.
>
> Now the real trick is to remember what my password is on house of fusion --
> 10 years will sure make those things fuzzy.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
>
> 

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Re: FW: Conservative American Family Association Slams Newest Medal of Honour Winner as Too Feminine.

[Jerry Johnson]

A mile of lemon juice seems like a lot of juice. That would be like a dozen
lemons. (My New Math is not so good).


On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:

>
> Frankly if it were a choice between knowing you better and crawling
> naked for a mile over ground glass and lemon juice, I'd go for the
> crawling.
>
>


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Re: trumpet winsock.

[Jerry Johnson]

Yes, it caused that old tick in my facial muscles to start up again, thank
you very much.

I remember it.

I remember trying to get it to load in the highmem space. Oh, joy.

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Ras Tafari  wrote:

>
> if you know what that is, pre-googling it right now... then you are an old
> head
> on this thing we call the web... if not... well... NOOOB!
>
> :)
>
>


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Re: FW: Conservative American Family Association Slams Newest Medal of Honour Winner as Too Feminine.

[Jerry Johnson]

Me thinks someone has been watching a little too much Colbert Report...and
the ThreatDown!

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:

> Fischer recently argued that it's time to get rid of the "curse" that
> is the Grizzly Bear because of the number of humans who have been
> killed by bears: "One human being is worth more than an infinite
> number of grizzly bears. Another way to put it is that there is no
> number of live grizzlies worth one dead human being. If it's a choice
> between grizzlies and humans, the grizzlies have to go. And it's
> time."
>
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Re: Another teabagger bites it

[Jerry Johnson]

I assume those quotes are pure hyperbolic malarkey, since there are no
links.

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:

>
> Since Miller was a fairly typical teabagger, or so it would seem, then
> his attitudes towards democracy and equal right are very worrisome.
> First there is his trying to rig his election to the GOP State
> Chairmanship a couple of years ago. Then in his own words during the
> campaign:
>
> "What about all those Eskimo votes? Are we really going to count
> those? I mean, they're not white, they snuck in from Asia, they club
> baby seals -- have you ever seen a baby seal?"
>
> "These Eskimos are the most Un-American people I've ever seen.
> Frankly, they ought to be deported, and they're crying about the vote?
> The Tea Party stands with me on this!"
>
> Yes wonderful democratic types those Tea Party types.
>
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Re: How to screw up an interview

[Jerry Johnson]

As a former interviewER, I can say that a not-perfect interview is not a
deal breaker.

I would truly get more nervous at a perfect interview. Either they had too
much practice in interviews (which may not be a good sign), they are great
people-people and had completely charmed me out of my objectivity, or they
really were perfect for the job.

I also know that often the person giving the interview is as nervous, and
may be sitting at home thinking "I lost total control of that interview: it
went on way too long. I hope he will still consider the job, and not judge
our project management and development by that interview!".

Hoping for you.
Jerry

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:13 AM, Michael Dinowitz <
mdino...@houseoffusion.com> wrote:

>
> I had a job interview today and boy did I screw it up. Everything was going
> good. We talked some DB design and I hit all the points that they wanted.
> Then they asked me for a simple aggregate query and my mind froze. It was a
> simple aggregate statement and I just couldn't write it.
> And then the interview went on for about 1.5 hours and I start getting
> nervous with interviews that long. I don't know what else to say, what else
> to ask, and it just goes south from there.
> I'm still hoping for the position but... :(
>
>
> 

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Re: palestine, a country?

[Jerry Johnson]

You think Maryland really cares?


On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:

>
> Now you've done it, you're going to get MD frothing at the mouth ;)
>
>


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Re: babysitter money

[Jerry Johnson]

If you are Charlie Sheen's mom, apparently $12,000.

But yeah, $8-10 around here.

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Scott Raley  wrote:

>
> about $8
>
> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Paul Ihrig  wrote:
>
> >
> > how much do you guys shell out per hour?
> > planning on seeing Harry Potter on Saturday.
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: ...and then there's this d-bag

[Jerry Johnson]

Again, here I don't see bias. I see sensationalism.

There is a big difference.

Do you truly believe the headline would have been different if it had been a
Democrat caught in a juicy, easily understood hypocritical statement?

I could image them changing the headline if it was a major advertiser, or a
member of their board, or their boss' wife, but not because the person is a
Republican or Democrat.





On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Cameron Childress wrote:

>
> Yeah - I have to say this looks really like a case of employer
> provided heath care.  The employer just happens to be the Government.
> I would certainly expect government employees to get health care just
> like from any other employer.
>
> The news headline sure does lead someone to look at it another way
> though, particularly if the reader already has a strong bias.  I'm not
> usually one to cry about bias in the media but this sure does stink of
> it.
>
> "House GOP Freshman Demands Gov't Health Care"
> - vs -
> "New Employee Asks When Health Care Bennies Kick In"
>
> Doesn't the second one sound like an Onion headline?
>
> -Cameron
>
> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:10 AM, Sam  wrote:
> > Really? He has a job that provides health care. He's not looking for a
> > freebie. What's the issue? Are you now going to say everyone that was
> > against Obamacare should not have health insurance?
> > Actually, I think Judah said that repeatedly.
>
> 

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Don't miss the Leonids tonight/tomorrow morning!

[Jerry Johnson]

Looks like a great night for it.


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Re: full body scanners at airports

[Jerry Johnson]

This is all a simple matter of marketing.

Instead of an "intrusive patdown" in front of everyone, you get slipped a
little black "players" card, that lets you into the "champagne room" for a
lapdance and patdown from a hot dancer-type girl. (or guy - your
preference).

You walk away happy. College girls get jobs with great benefits, and the
economy is improved by the sharp uptick in airline travel.

Why is this so hard?

Problem solved. NEXT.


> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
>
> >> The pat down was extremely intrusive to the point where from
> >> now on given the choice I would go for a scanner every time.
>


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I admit to being of two minds on this story: Parent sues school over slavery assignment

[Jerry Johnson]

I can see both sides of this one, and keep waffling back and forth. Not sure
what I would have thought.



Warren parent sues school district over slavery
assignment

The father of a Warren Consolidated Schools student is suing the district
alleging racial discrimination because of a teacher read aloud from a book
about 
slavery.
[*The Macomb Daily*].



http://michiganlawyerblog.wordpress.com/2010/11/12/warren-parent-sues-school-district-over-slavery-assignment/


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Re: The house photo thread: Re: i may no longer have cable internet

[Jerry Johnson]

No.

Let me use it for a little while. I will eventually return it, when I am
bored with it. Like a netflix movie.

(I am hoping for some minibike/quad riding this weekend, but am a total
whimp, and want nice weather)

Jerry Milo Johnson

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Ray Champagne  wrote:

>
> You stole our good weather!  Bring it back pls.
>
> On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Jerry Johnson  wrote:
>
> >
> > But I was where he was yesterday, and the weather was like 68 and sunny,
> > with a pleasant breeze.
> >
> > And I skipped town, and came home to 68 and sunny, and a pleasant breeze.
> >
> > which does not suck.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Casey Dougall <
> > ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Jerry Johnson 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Well, we are going to dip down into the 40s tonight, and may have a
> > cloud
> > > > on
> > > > Sunday, so
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In general I love when people complain about cold weather or snow. If
> you
> > > don't like it, move, or suck it up!  LOL
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: The house photo thread: Re: i may no longer have cable internet

[Jerry Johnson]

But I was where he was yesterday, and the weather was like 68 and sunny,
with a pleasant breeze.

And I skipped town, and came home to 68 and sunny, and a pleasant breeze.

which does not suck.



On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Casey Dougall <
ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote:

>
> On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Jerry Johnson  wrote:
>
> > Well, we are going to dip down into the 40s tonight, and may have a cloud
> > on
> > Sunday, so
> >
>
>
> In general I love when people complain about cold weather or snow. If you
> don't like it, move, or suck it up!  LOL
>
>
> 

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Re: The house photo thread: Re: i may no longer have cable internet

[Jerry Johnson]

Well, we are going to dip down into the 40s tonight, and may have a cloud on
Sunday, so

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Ray Champagne  wrote:

>
> Tell me about it.  I hate this part of the countrylove my job, but hate
> the location.
>
> 1-4" of snow coming tonight, followed by two days of cold rain.  FML.
>
>


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Re: Happy Veterans Day

[Jerry Johnson]

On the way to the airport yesterday, I made the taxi driver stop at the
National Cemetery in Minneapolis.

8 Medal of Honor recipients.

51000 veterans.

I heard an honor guard play taps.

Humbling.

Jerry Johnson

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Ras Tafari  wrote:

>
> +420
>
> On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 7:16 AM, Scott Stewart
>  wrote:
> >
> > + infinity
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 2:28 AM, Robert Munn 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> to all the vets on the list.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: i may no longer have cable internet

[Jerry Johnson]

its ok. the clubhouse has high speed internet. you can leach off them.

(its where you will be anyway)

sounds awesome! congrats.

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Ras Tafari  wrote:

>
> LOL
>
> no kiddin'
>
> i told my lady friend it might be nice to "tech-down" for a little
> while... but idk... its scary
>
> On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Maureen  wrote:
> >
> > That sounds like a good enough reason to give up Internet entirely.
> >
> >
> >> oh, the reason...  lets just say it's an A-frame, on 6acres, 3000sqft
> and
> >> its only 6 min. from my golf course :
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: let's just say...

[Jerry Johnson]

I've got your caber right he..what were we talking about, again?

I had the treat once of seeing a Highland Games up in NH. Amazing.



On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:

>
> The hurling the caber fits the definition of a sport.
>
> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Judah McAuley 
> wrote:
> >
> > If it involves beer and it involves a stick, it's a sport.
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Jerry Johnson  wrote:
> >>
> >> Is Gaelic Hurling when you drink too much Irish Ale?
> >>
> >> I didn't realize that was a sport!
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 4:36 PM, William Bowen  >wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> > oh, now you're spewin hate mister!  Take it back now before I report
> you
> >>> to abuse.icann.org.
> >>>
> >>> I am by no means a sports fan.
> >>>
> >>> I will watch Gaelic Hurling on occasion at my local Irish pub.
> >>>
> >>> I can say that on the occasions when I have watched Seattle sports
> >>> franchises with local fans I have learned that the secret (at least
> >>> here in the SEA) is to keep one's expectations low, that way just
> >>> about anything can be a pleasant surprise.
> >>>
> >>> There were apparently *not* mass suicides here this weekend for this
> >>> very reason.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: let's just say...

[Jerry Johnson]

Or a court date. Or a sport. One or the other. Or both.

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Judah McAuley  wrote:

>
> If it involves beer and it involves a stick, it's a sport.
>
> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Jerry Johnson  wrote:
> >
> > Is Gaelic Hurling when you drink too much Irish Ale?
> >
> > I didn't realize that was a sport!
>


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Re: let's just say...

[Jerry Johnson]

Is Gaelic Hurling when you drink too much Irish Ale?

I didn't realize that was a sport!


On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 4:36 PM, William Bowen wrote:

>
> > oh, now you're spewin hate mister!  Take it back now before I report you
> to abuse.icann.org.
>
> I am by no means a sports fan.
>
> I will watch Gaelic Hurling on occasion at my local Irish pub.
>
> I can say that on the occasions when I have watched Seattle sports
> franchises with local fans I have learned that the secret (at least
> here in the SEA) is to keep one's expectations low, that way just
> about anything can be a pleasant surprise.
>
> There were apparently *not* mass suicides here this weekend for this
> very reason.
>
>


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Re: let's just say...

[Jerry Johnson]

Oh, your torture is real. Of course it is not really torture, just
aggressive fan disappointment techniques.

What is fictional is a Royals fan. Like anyone would wear that blue on
purpose. They all look like the Snuggles laundry bear.


On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 3:57 PM, G Money  wrote:

>
> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Jerry Johnson  wrote:
>
> >
> > It is a moot point anyway. No one is actually a Royals fan.
> >
>
> How dare you claim my torture is make believe!
>
>
> 

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Re: let's just say...

[Jerry Johnson]

Doesn't matter if we are eating sushi off the bodies of supermodels and
drinking Champagne NOW.

My pathos and understanding was forged in the 80s.

But, yeah, we don't even have to win again this decade, I am still feasting
off the last ones.

It is a moot point anyway. No one is actually a Royals fan.


On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 3:40 PM, G Money  wrote:

>
> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Jerry Johnson  wrote:
>
> >
> > I understand as only a Red Sox fan can understand.
> >
>
> Oh cry me a river, Mr. Two World Series In The Last 6 years. (And 3 super
> bowls in the last 9 years)
>
> Royals post season appearances in the last 25 years: Zero.
> Royals WINNING SEASONS in the last 15 years: One.
> Chiefs post season wins in the last 15 years: One.
>
>
>


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Re: let's just say...

[Jerry Johnson]

Just in case that wasn't clear, the "long time coming" was not intended as
an slight, but an acknowledgement of the truly impressive loyalty of the
typical Raiders fan in the face of long-time suffering.

I understand as only a Red Sox fan can understand.



On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Jerry Johnson  wrote:

> Congrats, Tony!
>
> Long time coming.
>
> Of course, last night Cleveland beat my team like we werethe Raiders.
>
> =)
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Tony  wrote:
>
>>
>> WE OWN THE AFC WEST!!!
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKbYjyKOoR4
>>
>> w0t
>>
>> 

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Re: let's just say...

[Jerry Johnson]

Congrats, Tony!

Long time coming.

Of course, last night Cleveland beat my team like we werethe Raiders.

=)



On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Tony  wrote:

>
> WE OWN THE AFC WEST!!!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKbYjyKOoR4
>
> w0t
>
> 

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Re: Glenn Beck fantasizes about muslims beheading Obama for leaving Islam

[Jerry Johnson]

I would disagree.

I think most people are born into a religion (usually the religion of their
parents)

And are raised as part of that religion.

Only in later years are they likely to _leave_ a religion they were
bequeathed at birth, and reinforced during childhood.

What you are describing below is _faith_, not religion.

Or so I think.
Jerry

On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Judah McAuley  wrote:

>
> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Vivec  wrote:
> >
> > Obama was born a Christian, he was not a Muslim. Yet they continue to
> > lie and make claims that he was a muslim.
>
> As a derail, I'd like to point out that no one is born any religion,
> religion is not genetic. He may have been raised amongst Christians
> and grew to believe a Christian faith and self identify as a
> Christian, but no one is born with a religion.
>
> Judah
>
> 

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Re: US Economy gained jobs last month

[Jerry Johnson]

No, this election pretty much did it in.

There was an immense spend by unmentioned corporations to defeat the main
proponents of net neutrality who were up for reelection.

Which worked to unseat them. All.

On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 4:33 PM, G Money  wrote:

>
> On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Vivec  wrote:
>
> >
> > well you might need to add one that thinks its cool to allow phone
> > companies to produce Tiered Internet plans for the Internet.
> >
> > Net Neutrality was likely gutted by the republican wins in the house.
> >
> > Look forward to bundling of 'fast' access to major Multimedia sites on
> > your Net bills in the near future.
> >
>
> I didn't think net neutrality had much of a partisan feel to it? Seemed
> like
> both parties supported it...it was the courts punched a hole in it, wasn't
> it?
>
>


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Re: next week for the sex!

[Jerry Johnson]

Because for some of them, it is just another paycheck while wearing skimpy
clothing?

On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 1:10 PM, G Money  wrote:

> > Chicks just don't understand why throwing mud at each other is funny :)
>


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Re: US Economy gained jobs last month

[Jerry Johnson]

Well, one of the fundamental tenets of the new political scene is "reducing
the size of government".

With this reduction, there are going to HAVE to be massive job loss in the
public sector.

If the money is cut and the jobs are cut, then obviously the JOBS ARE CUT!

And although the mantra is "smaller government means more money for
businesses, which means more jobs" is spouted often, I think we are going to
see there is little correlation between those thoughts.

So, I don't expect the private sector to instantly create the jobs to
replace those public sector jobs lost.

Not in anything like the near term.

On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Judah McAuley  wrote:

> Now, an excellent next question is: Will the new "natural"
> unemployment rate be similar to what it was before or is the economy
> we have coming out of this great recession fundamentally different in
> some important ways?
>
>


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Immigration hawk Pearce elected president of Arizona Senate

[Jerry Johnson]

I admit I am a little surprised, even with all the Republican gains, that
this guy was elected president of the senate.

I guess we know which way the legislature is likely to lean this next
session.


http://azcapitoltimes.com/news/2010/11/03/immigration-hawk-pearce-elected-president-of-arizona-senate/

Sen. Russell Pearce will lead the Arizona Senate next year after colleagues
elected him to be president of the chamber during a closed-door meeting Nov.
3.

Pearce defeated Sen. Steve Pierce and Senators-elect Steve Yarbrough and
John McComish. All four had been rounding up votes for months in
anticipation of the leadership elections. Until now, it wasn’t clear which
candidate had the edge, although many sources were saying Yarbrough appeared
to have the most support prior to the Nov. 2 elections.

...

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Re: Update on the Tea Party stomping...

[Jerry Johnson]

I don't remember. Maybe the woman who lost to Reid?

I just loved the way the Rand Paul stomping was already in the lexicon.


On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Maureen  wrote:

>
> Who were they talking about?
>
> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Jerry Johnson  wrote:
> >
> > My favorite quote of the day from around the interwebs:
> >
> > "She was the "fringe" Republican, always written off, always bullied by
> the
> > establishment, who had been adopted by a brand new political movement and
> > stomped the establishment like a troublesome protester at a Rand Paul
> > rally."
>
> 

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Re: Update on the Tea Party stomping...

[Jerry Johnson]

My favorite quote of the day from around the interwebs:

"She was the "fringe" Republican, always written off, always bullied by the
establishment, who had been adopted by a brand new political movement and
stomped the establishment like a troublesome protester at a Rand Paul
rally."


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Digital revenge on Craigslist is prosecutable

[Jerry Johnson]

We had an interesting case being debated around work today, worth passing
along.

Revenge apparently has its limits.

http://blogs.masslawyersweekly.com/news/2010/11/03/woman-may-be-prosecuted-for-craigslist-posting/

Woman may be prosecuted for Craigslist
postingNovember
3rd, 2010 | by noahs |

A defendant who allegedly entered another woman’s apartment, accessed her
computer and posted two ads containing her phone number on Craigslist’s
Casual Encounters section stating that the woman was willing to engage in
sex can be prosecuted for criminal harassment.

Quincy District Court Judge Mark S. Coven issued the ruling.

The first Craigslist posting informed the reader that the alleged victim was
looking to perform oral sex, while the second expanded the proposed sexual
conduct to include intercourse.

As a result of the ads, the alleged victim received approximately 70 phone
calls and five text messages between 9 p.m. and 6 a.m.




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Re: Who got punished? Re: Punitive Politics

[Jerry Johnson]

that was dumb money.

but, do you think the race would have been that close without that level of
spending?


On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Maureen  wrote:

>
> Meg Whitman spent 160 million dollars, most of it her own money, and lost.
>
> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Jerry Johnson  wrote:
> >
> > I don;t see that at all.
> >
> > What I saw was that _exceptionally huge_ money affected a lot of races.
> Not
> > normal money, not even big money, but ridiculous money.
>
> 

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Re: Who got punished? Re: Punitive Politics

[Jerry Johnson]

I don;t see that at all.

What I saw was that _exceptionally huge_ money affected a lot of races. Not
normal money, not even big money, but ridiculous money.

Like tequila shots at the end of a night, money gave people like a 20% bump
they otherwise wouldn't have had.

In races that should not have been close at all, money made them close.
In races that should have tilted slightly to the incumbent (going be past
races), the races tilted instead to the money, by a couple of points.
In races that normally would have been close, money made it seem like a
runaway.

I also saw the actually emergence of some real, contested, 3 way races,
where instead of the normal "loon on the edge" independent, instead the
independents were MODERATES of either party who didn't want to swing to the
poles. We aren't used to seeing it, so people didn't trust it yet, but I
think the signs are starting to shift.



On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Judah McAuley  wrote:

>
> You know, I was just thinking about who got punished in this election.
>
> When I look over the results, both in the primaries and the general
> election, I see a polarizing effect. A lot of Tea Party sort of folks
> made primary challenges to more established Republicans, coming at
> them from the right. A surprising number were effective and went on to
> win in the general election. There were obviously some high-profile
> losses, like Sharon Angle and Christine O'Donnel, but there were a
> bunch who also won, like Marco Rubio. This would seem to have the net
> effect of pulling the Republican caucus farther to the right.
>
> On the other side of the aisle, there wasn't as much in the way of
> primary challenges from the left (that happened more in 2006 and 08)
> but if you look at who lost in the general election it is pretty
> striking. There were some high profile progressive losses (Alan
> Grayson most notably) but the 79 member Progressive Caucus only lost 4
> members. The 54-member Blue Dogs lost 29 of their members. That has
> the substantial effect of pushing the Democratic side farther left,
> overall.
>
> What does that mean, overall? It would seem to mean that Congress will
> be more polarized in the upcoming session (if such a thing is
> possible). It would also seem to mean, to me at least, that voters are
> only paying lipservice to bipartisanship. They seem to be electing
> people that more clear in their convictions and who have big, obvious
> tendencies one direction or the other. I can understand why voters
> would do that but at the same time, it seems like that is going to be
> a barrier to moderates in a day and age where we don't have a good
> ability to communicate nuance to an electorate.
>
> This seems like a continuing problem to me, that voters say they want
> bipartisanship but then don't vote for it, and I'm not sure how that
> will change.
>
>


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Re: Punitive Politics

[Jerry Johnson]

Heck, if they really wanted to try, I bet any 5th grade class could help
them make smart cuts that are not hurtful.

The problem is "not in my backyard" (or not from my pocketbook).

Every politician has people that own them, and have money that they are
getting that they are not willing to give up. And they make deals with
others that have different needs, so no one touches either pie.

and unfortunately, there is no incentive in the way our gov works (from a
gov employee/department perspective) to ever lower a budget item. because
you lose that money forever more. they are only ever rewarded for always
growing their budgets.

Heck, I cannot believe there is money to be saved just in shipping costs for
medicare paperwork and mailorder prescriptions.
Or inflating the tires of all government vehicles and getting them a tuneup
to save gas.

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Vivec  wrote:

>
> How about cutting 50% from Defence AKA War :-)
> lol
>
> On 3 November 2010 13:17, Robert Munn  wrote:
>
> >
> > Why can't we cut 3% from Defense?
>


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Re: Punitive Politics

[Jerry Johnson]

I am truly less concerned about "how" yet.

That is why I loved the "The Rent is Too Damn High" guy.

One simple message. So true. And so many ways to address it from any number
of political opinions, both conservative and liberal, smaller government and
bigger.

I am hoping (not very hopeFUL, but hoping) that the people who were elected
really want to do something, and not just be more "no"s in the road.



On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Judah McAuley  wrote:

>
> I think that's very well put, Jerry. Though I would quibble slightly
> with your characterization of the 2008 election as Democrats had
> strong success in 2006, so part of 2008 was building on what they had
> done the election before. But certainly a lot of 2008 was a reaction
> against how bad things had gotten. And 2010, without a doubt, was
> anger that things had not gotten better.
>
> My problem with a lot of the people who got elected this time around
> is that they don't seem to have any real idea of how they would
> exercise greater fiscal discipline and help control the size of
> government. If you came to me with a plan that says, "this is the cuts
> I'll pursue and the related constraints it will place on federal
> government" I'd seriously listen. Thus far I've just gotten hand
> waving rhetoric and promises of "fiscal discipline".
>
> Anyway, the new folks in Congress have the benefit of an economy that
> will likely continue to gradually pick up steam. We'll see what they
> can do to improve that and avoid another round of "off with their
> heads!" by the electorate.
>
> Judah
>
> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 6:16 AM, Jerry Barnes  wrote:
> >
> > It's funny.  This morning, I saw where some talking heads were already
> > predicting what kind of gains the GOP could make in the next election.
> >
> > They still don't understand.  This election was not about support for the
> > GOP agenda.  It was about the Democrat agenda, specifically, its
> refutation.
> >  People didn't just wake up and decide that the GOP is good again.  They
> are
> > viewing them as the lesser of two evils.
> >
> > Very similar to the election in 2008, in which the GOP got bashed.  Many
> of
> > the middle of the road voters were just tired of the GOP; the high gas
> > prices, the two prolonged wars, rising economic problems, the lack of
> > progress on sealing the border, and the constant focus on social issues.
> >
> > It will be interesting to see if the GOP actually has learned anything
> from
> > history.  Will it try to reclaim the fiscal responsibility label that the
> > tea party movement has co-opted?  Will the GOP finally accept the tea
> party
> > as a legitimate movement and try to incorporate its smaller government
> and
> > fiscal responsibility platform or just continue to play those issues lip
> > service? Or, will the GOP take the advice of Trent Lott:
> >
> > We don’t need a lot of Jim DeMint disciples.  As soon as they get here,
> we
> > need to co-opt them.
> >
> >
> >
> > Will Christine O'Donnell's quote actual be true or will things degrade
> into
> > business as usual?
> >
> > "We were victorious because the Delaware political system will never be
> the
> > same -- that's a great thing. The Republican Party will never be the
> same,
> > and that's a good thing,"
> >
> >
> >
> > How many idiots are out writing the Republican equivalent of "40 More
> Years:
> > How the Democrats Will Rule the Next
> > Generation<
> http://www.amazon.com/40-More-Years-Democrats-Generation/dp/1416569898>"
> > by James Carville?  If they are, they don't understand the American
> people.
> >  At all.
> >
> > In the end, the GOP should look at this as an opportunity to rebrand
> itself.
> >  Concentrate on  import issues, specifically smaller government, budget
> > control, security, and immigration,  instead of playing politics as
> usual,
> > especially in the social issues arena..  If they end sliding back into
> the
> > political haranguing that is business as usual in Washington, many of
> them
> > will be out on their ass in the next election.
> >
> > J
> >
> > -
> >
> > What we have here in America today is a real-life jump-the-shark drama,
> > starring a super-narcissistic president so desperate to create his own
> > vainglorious legacy that he is willing to destroy his own political party
> > and do enduring damage to his country in pursuit of his purely selfish
> ends.
> > - Kyle-Anne Shiver
> >
> >
>
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Re: November 3rd, 2010 – We enter the 7t h day of t he G alactic Underworld of th e Mayan Calend

[Jerry Johnson]

Apparently Prop 19 passed a little early at someone's house

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Casey Dougall <
ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote:

>
> At midnight, November 3rd, 2010, we will enter the 13th and final wave
> movement of the Galactic Underworld, the 7th day. At this moment, the
> Apocalypse , the unveiling of the
> Truths which have been withheld from us for so long, will manifest. We will
> begin to understand and Know that which has been kept from us by the
> corrupt, power-hungry hierarchies which have ruled the Earth for far too
> long. It is not, I think, a coincidence that the United States is holding
> an
> off-year election on November 2nd, and the results of this watershed
> election will be just hours – if not minutes – old when the transition to
> the 7th day begins. It is also not a coincidence that this election cycle
> is
> being driven by a new populist movement, called The Tea Party, which is
> akin
> to the populist revolt which led to the 1st American Revolution in 1776. We
> are about to take the 1st step in reclaiming our government from the
> bloated, corrupt bankers and crooks which have suppressed our progress for
> centuries.
>
> *http://tinyurl.com/39hulmf
>
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Re: "Straight Ticket" Voting

[Jerry Johnson]

So, a straight party vote.

(You went by the labels, not by the people.)

For shame!

=)

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 8:52 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote:

>
> > In my county's results, http://bit.ly/bL4cj8, 6175 people voted
> > "straight party" out of 15,687 ballots - almost 40%. That is insane.
> >
> > I think this should be abolished from all ballots. To, me, it
> > encourages voters to be lazy and not really know anything about the
> > candidates.
> >
> > The Democrat will not ALWAYS the best person for the job nor will the
> > Republican ALWAYS be the best person for the job.
>
> In my election we had at least 6 parties on the ballot.  In most cases
> the same candidate was endorsed by multiple parties.  Where I could I
> would vote with the third party line (conservative) unless the
> candidate on that line was also endorsed by the democrats but not the
> republicans... and yes, we had a few local candidates that were on all
> the lines and some cases where they would get the D, I & C lines but
> not the R.
>
> Was definitely an interesting night to watch.
>
> Hatton
>
> 

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Re: Non-Political Picture Thread

[Jerry Johnson]

Spectacular!

I cannot compete with that, but do love this view out my office window:
http://picasaweb.google.com/jmiloj/MyDailyCommute#5489730493939406450

(That
is the Old South Meetinghouse, where the rabble gathered in a meeting before
marching to the harbor and wetting some tea.)

The building past it on the left is the location (but not the building)
where Ben Franklin's family lived, and where he was born.



On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Maureen  wrote:

>
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 7:24 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey 
> wrote:
> >
> > I think today would be a good day (at least until the polls close) to
> > share non-political pictures.  This one is safe for work
>
> Cool pics of the goats.
>
> And to continue the sharing, here are a couple of shots of my commute
> to the city.
>
> http://vonspace.com/stuff/ggcommute1.jpg
> http://vonspace.com/stuff/ggcommute2.jp
>
> 

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Re: Giants?

[Jerry Johnson]

Apparently we cannot already!

=)

No, not a fan in the past, but a "Congrats", and "Heck of a job, Brownie" to
the whole team.

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 2:05 PM, G Money  wrote:

>
> No SF Giants fans on this list? Seriously?
>
> If the Royals ever win the world series again.(pause to let laughter
> subside).you wouldn't be able to get me to shut up :)
>
>
> 

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Re: Non-Political Picture Thread

[Jerry Johnson]

Very nice! Love those goats.

Here is an interesting little corner of the world. Are you familiar with the
trend called "tiny houses"?
Here is one pretty cool one:
http://tinyhouseblog.com/dome/eco-pod-home/



On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:24 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote:

>
> I think today would be a good day (at least until the polls close) to
> share non-political pictures.  This one is safe for work
>
>
> http://asianenergy.blogspot.com/2010/10/youve-got-to-be-kidding-herd-of.html
>
> It's a dam in Italy with mountain goats just wandering on it, eating
> lichen and licking the salt on the rocks.
>
> More pictures at
> http://debri.ru/animals/504-gornye-kozly-na-plotine.html though you
> may have to translate it from Russian if you want comments.
>
> Until Later!
> C. Hatton Humphrey
> http://www.eastcoastconservative.com
>
> No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large
> number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
>
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Re: What is a voter to do?

[Jerry Johnson]

That is funny. I just ran mine, and the LOWEST I got was a 55% (out of 5
candidates). The highest was 76%. And both the R and the D were withing 5
points of each other and me.


On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 11:06 AM, G Money  wrote:

>
> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Scott Stroz  wrote:
>
> >
> > So, I went to this web site, http://www.votesmart.org/voteeasy to get
> > a better idea of where my Senate and House candidates match up with my
> > ideals.
> >
> > Sadly, when I was done, the closest any candidate, for either office,
> > came was 47%. 47 fucking percent. That means that no matter who I vote
> > for I agree with them on less than half of the 'major' issues.
> >
> > That sucks.
> >
>
> What's a voter to do when no one running represents him?
>
> Answer: Run for Congress yourself!
>
> i'd vote for ya Scott!
>
>
> 

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Re: Update on the Tea Party stomping...

[Jerry Johnson]

So, Jerry, just to be clear:

You maintain and believe that the guy who put his foot on the downed woman
was in the right, and used no more force than he needed to, and had the
right intentions in mind, and did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG?



On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Jerry Barnes  wrote:

>
> "I have a thing against jack booted thugs."
>
> You must really hate the SEIU then.
>
>
> "Mind you, I couldn't tell from the video whether the dude's boots were
> really jack boots or whether he was just acting that way. All the behavior
> shown in that video toward the woman is violent and horrifying. I stand by
> my position. "
>
> Your position.  Not a fact.
>
>
> "There is nothing defensible there and I'm going to call out anyone who
> cravenly tries to draw an equivalence"
>
> Or that disagrees with you or your "position".
>
>
> Seems like you are suffering Post Election Blues before the election.
>
>
> J
>
> -
>
> "Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote." - George Jean
> Nathan
>
>
> 

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