Re: Justification for murder
I am definitely a brace on the end of the top line kind of guy.
I also prefer the } else { notation.
Fortunately, the WordPress coding standards agree with me.
https://make.wordpress.org/core/handbook/coding-standards/php/#brace-style
My pet peeve, though, is var2 = #var# in cf code.
And unequal tab spacing inside a single file. You don't have to pick mine,
but stick with one style, please.
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com
wrote:
For some reason I find myself switching at time between both styles. I am
not really sure why. One just feels better sometimes and the other feels
better other times.
I think that if the file's short I prefer version #2 since it helps
everything look compact. If the code's gonna be longer than one visible
page I prefer #1 since it's gonna go over a page anyway and compactness
doesn't matter.
Or maybe it's just which shoe I put on first in the morning. Not sure.
If we ever work on a project together, please try not to murder me. :)
-Cameron
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Eric Roberts wrote:
Heheh...yeah...I never understood that indentation style. The first
one
makes more sense to me. It's much more readable. I definitely
sympathize
with the characters LOL.
Eric
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Re: Justification for murder
Sadly, unconciously I think I do it to appease the compiler/interpreter
gods. Don't make them struggle on easy stuff, so they aren't mad at me when
they get to the complex stuff I have in there.
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com
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On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 9:45 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson jmi...@gmail.com
wrote:
I also prefer the } else { notation.
Me too, and I never leave off the curly brackets, even when it's optional.
More explicit for the next confused person reading the code (probably me in
a few months/years).
-Cameron
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Re: Eclipse not respnding
Heap size is good, but eclipse will also choke if an open file (accessed across a network share) is disconnected, or intermittent. Make sure you close any open files on network shares that are not connected, rather than leaving them open. (textwrangler on the mac has a similar issue.) On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:40 AM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks man. On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: https://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_How_do_I_increase_the_heap_size_available_to_Eclipse%3F I'd also check out Sublime Text http://www.sublimetext.com/ -Cameron On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:27 AM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: I'm going nuts with eclipse not responding every couple of seconds. I know I've seen some memory tweaks and stuff before, suggestions? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:373341 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Eclipse not respnding
no, aptana handles ftp well - no open file pointers. but aptana does freeze if memory gets low. im dabbling right now in sublime for my css / style files. using phpstorm for most work, and textwrangler for text editor with no help. still miss cfstudio5 daily. (but then again, I still miss the Turbo Pascal edtor, and Brief) On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:52 AM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: I'm working across FTP on production sites using the aptana plugin, probably related to that. They're mainly using sublime here, anyone recommend a good ftp plugin? On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson jmi...@gmail.com wrote: Heap size is good, but eclipse will also choke if an open file (accessed across a network share) is disconnected, or intermittent. Make sure you close any open files on network shares that are not connected, rather than leaving them open. (textwrangler on the mac has a similar issue.) On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:40 AM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks man. On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: https://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_How_do_I_increase_the_heap_size_available_to_Eclipse%3F I'd also check out Sublime Text http://www.sublimetext.com/ -Cameron On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:27 AM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: I'm going nuts with eclipse not responding every couple of seconds. I know I've seen some memory tweaks and stuff before, suggestions? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:373343 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Australian comedian on gun culture in US.
That is all funny. Thanks. On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 4:00 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: Interested in US views on this, he highlights his points well. https://youtu.be/fP3HJVp3n9c ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:373329 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Officer shooting in Ferguson
They were standing together close in a line. Like British Redcoats during the Revolution. You cannot easily hit a specific target from that distance, but the bullet can travel that far, and if the elevation is correct you are going to hit something in that line. From the google: A typical 1911 [Colt 45], zeroed at 7 yards, has a drop of 14 inches at 100 yards. Tragic. And will probably undo a lot of the mental/moral strides that have been churning in people's minds. Including those police. With the scrutiny they have been under, I don't think _anything_ will happen without being dissected by all parties involved (police, anti-police, press, lawyers, general public) But this didn't throw off any major cannot have happened flags for me, yet. But awaiting more details. On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: So I heard about the shooting of the two police officers in Ferguson as I was heading into work this morning. Later, I read a couple of articles and there are some details in there that strike me as incredibly suspicious. The officers were standing near a protest that was dwindling, down to a couple dozen people. According to the police chief, the shots came not from the protesters in the the parking lot that the officers were monitoring, but rather from a hill behind that parking lot. So the officers were shot around midnight. Apparently with a hand gun. From 125 yards away. And there were 3 or so shots, resulting in one head wound and one shoulder wound. Now, it is my understanding that it is really quite difficult to accurately hit a target from 125 yards away with a pistol (I've never tried anywhere close to that distance). Let alone a target that might be moving slightly. In the middle of the night. And yet, it seems that a largish percentage of the shots hit the targets they were aiming for. It is awful that the police officers were shot. But the narrative that I've seen thus far seems to be about rogue protesters who took advantage of the protest to be violent. All the details about the shooting though seem to go rather against that narrative. Am I misunderstanding the situation and being overly paranoid? Thanks, Judah ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:373302 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Cutting the Cable
!@#%^%. I did not know that. THANK YOU! On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote: It's a year, not a month. It was a typo. I settled on the Apple TV. Tip #1 for AppleTV... Hold down the center button till all the icons wiggle and you can move the apps around. Some of the apps are pretty stupid and some you will use all the time. Every now and then your TV will update and your ordering will get bumped by new apps, but it's easy enough to move them again. -Cameron ... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:373288 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Selenium and Jenkins
Packt books has been giving away free ebooks this month (in exchange for free registration on the site). https://www.packtpub.com/packt/offers/free-learning One of them was https://www.packtpub.com/web-development/selenium-2-testing-tools-beginner%E2%80%99s-guide which seemed like a good starting place when I read through it last weekend. On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 2:19 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone point me towards done beginners info and tutorials on these? This kind of testing and automaton is brand new to me. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:373294 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: lol AmericanThinker
Is Cincinnati or dancing pig that part you most regret? On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 12:13 PM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: i once accidentally called my boss a Cincinnati dancing pig. I thought i was writing to someone else on ICQ, but i was writing to him. So.yeah. On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:05 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey chumph...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 12:02 PM, J.J. Merrick j...@panos.cc wrote: 4. The internet is stupid. I think this is best response to many things. None of us - to the person - are infallible. All of us - to the person - have times when we wish there was an undo button on life. Until Later! C. Hatton Humphrey Like the saying goes, Measure Twice, Cut Onc... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:373238 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: lol AmericanThinker
I still am on IRC weekly. For various groups. Until last fall, all of the WordPress core dev teams met on IRC. (I use colloquy, fwiw) On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 1:29 PM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: Your husband told you he wanted a divorce on IRC?!?!?!?! That's.wowlower than low. On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: I have a fondness for it too. That's where my husband told me he wanted a divorce one week after I had spent all my savings to buy us a house next door to his parents. ;-) On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 1:20 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey chumph...@gmail.com wrote: I have a particular fondness for IRC, it's where my wife and I re-met (been married for almost 17 years now too). ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:373254 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: lol AmericanThinker
God, now I miss The Pirate's Cove. Best BBS for Apple back in the day. Out of Long Island, iirc. I threw out my acoustic coupler 300 baud modem last summer. It was time. On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 1:43 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey chumph...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Don't you need a land line for that? Nope, most use Telnet (some use SSH) for connecting so something like PuTTY works fine as a client. Amazingly things like FIDO are still around and somewhat active. There's a small group of active boards still running, even today! Until Later! C. Hatton Humphrey http://www.eastcoastconservative.com Like the saying goes, Measure Twice, Cut Onc... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:373259 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: lol AmericanThinker
Not if they are white. Obviously. These people cannot actually believe what they write , can they? This is just an attempt at humor and irony, right? Please ? On Wednesday, February 25, 2015, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: I believe so Maureen, thereâs no other possible explanation. I would like to hear an explanation from each them. -Cameron ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:373200 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: War isn't glamorous yadda yadda, but these photos though! :)
There is a great comment on that page, with a reference to an old Mash episode. I have always thought of that episode when I see photos of war that make it seem clean or distant. Thanks for sharing. Lots of memories from that first war. On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 4:36 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--IZ3mp10W--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/cn79nomikcrfgitvlak3.jpg http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--mEFGIEBI--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/opyjw0bdb0oku6vfqwb4.jpg You can find others here: http://sploid.gizmodo.com/the-day-the-us-killed-iraq-air-force-looks-like-the-day-1682061660?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_facebookutm_source=gizmodo_facebookutm_medium=socialflow ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:373150 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Study: 60 percent of 2014 job growth caused by expiration of unemployment benefits
I would say this group is good talking about policy, but not so good with politics. Especially the unthinking/unmoving/name calling sort that sadly passes for much political discourse in this country today. On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 2:50 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey chumph...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: I hereby deem the list cured. I disagree, this list is nothing like ham... plus that's an anti-semitic statement! (*GDnR*) Until Later! C. Hatton Humphrey http://www.eastcoastconservative.com Like the saying goes, Measure Twice, Cut Onc... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:373140 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: This may sound silly but..
I think they have some automatic tagging / ontology systems that break up their content between properties (money, belief, sports, etc) And Silicon Valley is almost always either a tech story or a business/labor story. I assume some automated system filed it, and no one noticed. On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:57 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey chumph...@gmail.com wrote: My only thought is that they might be giving some ideas to the wall-street types that are going to be homebound because of the impending storm. Until Later! C. Hatton Humphrey http://www.eastcoastconservative.com Like the saying goes, Measure Twice, Cut Onc... On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: Oddly enough, a friend of mine (Polly Superstar) is quoted in that first article and posted it on Facebook today. I had the same question as you and she didn't know why it was on money.cnn instead of regular cnn or whatever. So, no clue. Cheers, Judah On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:48 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey chumph...@gmail.com wrote: Why are these articles on CNN Money? NOTE: I'm not asking why they were made, investigated, talked about, whatever... my only challenge is why they're on CNN Money and not in a Lifestyle or Alternative Living magazine. I have a fiancé, a girlfriend and two boyfriends - http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/25/technology/polyamory-silicon-valley/index.html Inside a high-tech San Francisco swinger's party - http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/25/technology/swingers-silicon-valley/ One's about polyamory and the other's about swinging, both in Silicon Valley. Until Later! C. Hatton Humphrey http://www.eastcoastconservative.com Like the saying goes, Measure Twice, Cut Onc... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:373124 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Speaking of bizarre news customs, what the heck is this all about?
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/israel-paper-removes-female-leaders-paris-rally-photo-article-1.2076602 An ultra-Orthodox Jewish newspaper in Israel photoshopped all females from a front page photo of 40 world leaders gathered at a rally supporting victims of the shooting at the satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo. That seems pretty bizarre to me. The thought behind it I will never get, but live and let live. Not showing the picture, I would understand. Showing a cropped but unaltered shot I could also maybe understand. But changing the photo with photoshop, and altering the context, and passing it off as news, that seems just wrong. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:373094 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: New words for 2015
The TV show NCIS LA has had a running joke about the humble brag for years. I _know_ there has to be a great Yiddish word for it, as it is such a common part of the human condition. (schadenfreude is by far my favorite German word, describing another common human emotion) On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Michael Dinowitz mdino...@houseoffusion.com wrote: Before last week I've never heard the term humblebrag, which is why I took it a bit negatively. This showed me that there are a lot of terms that I'm not hearing that I should know the meaning of or at least know they exist. One example is BYOD, which came up in some tech news and I've never thought of before. Seems it's the idea of bringing your own device/tech/tools to a job. Something I've always done even when I wasn't exactly supposed to (like at a government contract). One term I will not have to look up is NSFW and I HIGHLY suggest that no one looks it up either. If you do, you'll find that there is actually a web-comic site called NSFW (Newly-Shorn Furless Weasels, Nocturnal Shock Fairly Wild, etc.) that is VERY not safe for work. It's not even safe for home. Unfortunately, it has a few funny pieces mixed in with all the stomach turning drek. I may have to post a list of the good ones one day. Chuck Jones must be tossing in his grave. http://nsfw-comix.com/nsfw045.htm ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:373070 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: glutton for punishment
Humble brag? That is awesome. You are opening WORLDS of adventure and knowledge to her. Make sure she also loves to get out and see if for herself, but that is great. I was 10 when I made that breakthrough with Zane Grey, then was lost at 12 for good with The Hobbit. (although I had already read through our 3 encyclopedia sets before that.) My goodreads profile: https://www.goodreads.com/review/list/1358543?shelf=read On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 9:13 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: It's an awesome addiction :) All the best to you and yours!! On 30 December 2014 at 09:53, Michael Dinowitz mdino...@houseoffusion.com wrote: You've all heard me moan and complain about my children's addiction to reading. The problem is, despite knowing what the future will hold for her, I'm encouraging my 7y.o. to read. She sat 2 hours straight last night reading Goosebumps and I praised her for it. I'm a masochist. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:373049 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Samsung aiming for 5G 800Gbps by 2018
No, YOU might get it. And France and South Korea will get it. Our corporate overlords will bump us up to 20Mbps, and double our monthly fees. On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: Samsung intends to have a working trial in place for the Winter olympics of 2018. The global race is on to develop 5G http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-30224853, the fifth generation of mobile network. While 5G will follow in the footsteps of 4G and 3G, this time scientists are more excited. They say 5G will be different â very different. 5G will be a dramatic overhaul and harmonization of the radio spectrum, says Prof Rahim Tafazolli who is the lead at the UK's multimillion-pound government-funded 5G Innovation Centre at the University of Surrey. To pave the way for 5G the ITU is comprehensively restructuring the parts of the radio network used to transmit data, while allowing pre-existing communications, including 4G and 3G, to continue functioning. 5G will also run faster, a lot faster. Prof Tafazolli now believes it is possible to run a wireless data connection at an astounding 800Gbps â that's 100 times faster than current 5G testing. A speed of 800Gbps would equate to downloading 33 HD films â in a single second. Samsung hopes to launch a temporary trial 5G network in time for 2018's Winter Olympic Games. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:373008 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: I may be biased.....
There was no Superbowl 42, and there was no catch on the helmet. Nope. Didn't happen. *la la la la la* did you see him practicing exactly these catches in the pregame warmup? those were awesome, too. On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: but this is, in my opinion, and in terms of pure athletic ability, the best catch in the history of the NFL. https://vine.co/v/O1MTUa37TBr Even if you do not like American football, you have to appreciate that catch. In terms of drama, and improbability, I think the 'helmet catch' from Super Bowl 42 is probably the best catch of all time. Commons denominator of those 2 catches? Both were thrown by Eli Manning. -- Scott Stroz --- You can make things happen, you can watch things happen or you can wonder what the f*k happened. - Cpt. Phil Harris http://xkcd.com/386/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372995 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: I may be biased.....
Let's hope not. Unfortunately, the league and their press arm (and the main media in echo) more often ruin a kid with the spotlight than help him. I hope he has good support, and better advisors than the Giants usually provide. New York is a tough and unforgiving place to grow up. On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: I did. Read an article by Peter King where he interviewed Beckham's coach at LSU. The coach said that what he did Sunday was nothing compared to what he has seen him do in practice. That kid has the potential to be a superstar. On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson jmi...@gmail.com wrote: There was no Superbowl 42, and there was no catch on the helmet. Nope. Didn't happen. *la la la la la* did you see him practicing exactly these catches in the pregame warmup? those were awesome, too. On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: but this is, in my opinion, and in terms of pure athletic ability, the best catch in the history of the NFL. https://vine.co/v/O1MTUa37TBr Even if you do not like American football, you have to appreciate that catch. In terms of drama, and improbability, I think the 'helmet catch' from Super Bowl 42 is probably the best catch of all time. Commons denominator of those 2 catches? Both were thrown by Eli Manning. -- Scott Stroz --- You can make things happen, you can watch things happen or you can wonder what the f*k happened. - Cpt. Phil Harris http://xkcd.com/386/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372998 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: I want that old snow emulator!
Some still like it: https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10201745592654770 On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Judith Dinowitz jdino...@houseoffusion.com wrote: partiallyclips.com/2014/11/25/children-in-snow/ -- Judith ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:373001 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Republican report on Benghazi finds no wrong doing.
With Rogers not up for reelection, I don't see him pulling any punches from any direction regardless of consequences. If he felt there was an issue, I think we would have seen it in this report. On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:20 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: Absence of proof is not proof of absence. I think this sounds more like a compromise, especially in light of the torture paper release attempts. On Nov 24, 2014 3:38 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: Well I'm saying that every investigation has found that there was no wrong doing on the part of those in government, the CIA, or the response teams. I think it is very clear what's being said. House Intelligence Committee finds little to support questions raised about CIA actions on the ground in Benghazi, Libya, the night of a deadly 2012 attack on the U.S. diplomatic compound. In other words, all the allegations and accusations have been found to be baseless and incorrect. On 24 November 2014 at 14:31, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: So you're saying it was not a terrorist attack connected to al Qaeda but was spontanious reaction to a youtube video? Support was supplied when requested? Hillary is a hero? I'm not sure what you think you're celebrating. . ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372982 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Origami Star Wars - Rebel Alliance
Go with something vaguely spacey like The 12th Fold (12 fold problem, paper folding , math, problem resolution, scientifically impossible by the powers-that-be but solved by a young girl) On Wednesday, November 19, 2014, C. Hatton Humphrey chumph...@gmail.com wrote: If any of you have kids that like Star Wars, you may have come across the Origami Yoda series. In it the kids in a middle school make origami (and other material) finger puppets from Star Wars to help them deal with your stereotypical school woes. My son has decided it's time to form a Rebel Alliance! He's recruited a few friends and I asked him what he was rebelling against. His answer floored me: Common Core. Understand, my son is 9, severe AD/HD with Asperger traits. He's in the 4th grade, in self-contained special ed to work on social controls but has the goal to be main-streamed next year. He's advanced academically but when he gets on a train of thought only the end of the line will end the conversation and tangent questions. I suggested he blog about what his group is doing it and am going to help him with it. I'm going to be the holocron recorder (he's making me Qui Gon finger puppet, he's General Grievous) and together we'll be writing up posts and scanning pictures of finger puppets and their interjections. I look at this as a way for him to get a better understanding of communication, organizing his thoughts and expressing his views. He's also going to get an understanding of debate (yes, I'm going to allow comments but plan to filter the garbage before he gets it) and explaining his position intellectually. Why am I putting this here? For one, I wanted to share it... it's awesome in my mind that my son is doing this on his own. Second, I need ideas for a domain... the title's a mouthful. I'm not sure if this is going to be a blogger.com site or if I should host a WordPress (I could always migrate). Third, if anyone (or their kids) want to join us you'll need a finger puppet! Until Later! C. Hatton Humphrey http://www.eastcoastconservative.com Every cloud does have a silver lining. Sometimes you just have to do some smelting to find it. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372970 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Anyone have a google inbox invite?
One on the way Casey On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 10:58 AM Casey Dougall casey.doug...@gmail.com wrote: An invite from within inbox goofball On Nov 16, 2014 10:10 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I haz the invite... -_- *peeks at invite* 0_0 *hides the invite* -_- ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372950 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Anyone have a google inbox invite?
I didn't realize I had any invites until Casey asked this morning. And then I googled where to find them. The golden tickets appear about 3 days after first login, accessed by hitting the + button to create a new email. On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Ray Champagne r...@raychampagne.com wrote: Got it, thanks! On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: Sent :) Yes I was goofing around and then forgot to come back and send the invite lol ^_^ On 16 November 2014 13:28, Ray Champagne r...@raychampagne.com wrote: Jerry, you're holding out on me? Gimme gimme! :) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372958 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: news of the week
Yes, both specifically in Massachusetts (Romneycare), and I will be greatly helped by the cannot be denied if you switch jobs part of it. The fact that without it (and with the changes insurance companies had been moving towards) I would lose healthcare for pre-existing conditions (type 1 diabetes) means i could not switch jobs, which basically puts me in an indentured servant class. My sister's family was helped by better costs in Connecticut, for better healthcare coverage. On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Bruce Sorge sor...@gmail.com wrote: The Army uses try care for his medical benefits. It conforms with Obama care so nothing is changed for me Sent from my iPhone 5S On Nov 14, 2014, at 10:39 AM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: Just curious, is there anyone on this list who has personally benefited from ObamaCare? I'm not looking for political bullshit, or he-said-she-said crapjust wonderingit has to have helped SOMEONE, right? I want to hear about it. On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: I see the WP finally mentioned him but it's kind of a puff peace about how he's worth the $400k he was paid by the government. . On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Bruce Sorge sor...@gmail.com wrote: They are not interviews, their speeches. And Washington Post actually picked it up as well now ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372924 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: news of the week
Yes, the individual pieces could have (and should have) been individually created and voted on. But the people who crafted the bill realized in order to get ALL of the pieces they wanted passed, they needed to bundle, as Frank Fretz would say. This is the same tactic that Mass Republicans used to get Romneycare through that state's voters. My understanding is the current increase in price for people, for the most part, are caused by a) better coverage (requiring insufficient insurance plans to improve to a base lever). Secondly, yes, insurance companies and health providers are building in as much profit as they can in the 2 years before the rules kick in and they get jerked up on the end of their leash, and have to balance profit against actual spending on health coverage. What I think is a crime is in the years since the law was passed, the legislature has not passed any bills to improve it. Control costs. Increase efficiency. Right any wrongs. Voting symbolically to repeal the law is lazy and dishonest. If there are things wrong with the law (and there are many), FIX THEM! There is definitely a loss in individual freedoms caused by the individual mandate. But the previous system was NOT working, and costs have been growing out of control for a decade or more. Health care costs and growth is still seen as the single biggest threat to our economy by business prognosticators. Quality of life and cost of living will continue to slip, and we will continue to lose ground to all the other developed nations, if we cannot get this under better control. On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 12:53 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: That's basically my feeling in it at this point. The insurance for my kids went up $400 a month. On Nov 14, 2014 12:51 PM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder why those beneficial requirements couldn't be included in a much less expansive billone that kept the rest of the system pretty much in tact? I'm curious to hear from anyone who simply could not get insurance before, but now has a nice shiny new affordable plan in place. Wasn't that supposed to be the major benefit of this? I'm paying a helluva lot more these daysand I just wonder where that money is going? Is it going to help other people...my peers as it were...or is it lining some fat cats' pocket? On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 11:46 AM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: The change in rules allowed me to get medicaid. Beats the hell out if just having VA coverage. I hate to be supportive of any of it, but there are a few decent things in there like Jerry mentioned and no previously existing conditions. On Nov 14, 2014 12:19 PM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: Cool. On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson jmi...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, both specifically in Massachusetts (Romneycare), and I will be greatly helped by the cannot be denied if you switch jobs part of it. The fact that without it (and with the changes insurance companies had been moving towards) I would lose healthcare for pre-existing conditions (type 1 diabetes) means i could not switch jobs, which basically puts me in an indentured servant class. My sister's family was helped by better costs in Connecticut, for better healthcare coverage. On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Bruce Sorge sor...@gmail.com wrote: The Army uses try care for his medical benefits. It conforms with Obama care so nothing is changed for me Sent from my iPhone 5S On Nov 14, 2014, at 10:39 AM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: Just curious, is there anyone on this list who has personally benefited from ObamaCare? I'm not looking for political bullshit, or he-said-she-said crapjust wonderingit has to have helped SOMEONE, right? I want to hear about it. On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: I see the WP finally mentioned him but it's kind of a puff peace about how he's worth the $400k he was paid by the government. . On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Bruce Sorge sor...@gmail.com wrote: They are not interviews, their speeches. And Washington Post actually picked it up as well now ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372931 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http
Re: news of the week
Check your employer's pockets. Many businesses are taking advantage of all the hate and discontent to tip the burden of costs back on the employees, without getting caught, and claiming Obamacare or The insurance companies without having to prove it. Like the gas companies raising gasoline prices with no actual change in the crude markets, but blaming it on whatever is currently in the news. On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 12:59 PM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: My premium stayed the samebut i now pay for EVERY medical issue out of my pocket. It's basically like i have no coverage at all. It's catastrophic coverage is what it is. If someone gets deathly ill and spends a month in the hospital, i'll be out 10 grand or so, but not go completely bankrupt. Gee thanks. For that same price i used to get coverage on everything. Doc visits were $20. Many other things were free to me. SOMEONE is getting more money out of mei'm just curious who it is. On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 11:53 AM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: That's basically my feeling in it at this point. The insurance for my kids went up $400 a month. On Nov 14, 2014 12:51 PM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder why those beneficial requirements couldn't be included in a much less expansive billone that kept the rest of the system pretty much in tact? I'm curious to hear from anyone who simply could not get insurance before, but now has a nice shiny new affordable plan in place. Wasn't that supposed to be the major benefit of this? I'm paying a helluva lot more these daysand I just wonder where that money is going? Is it going to help other people...my peers as it were...or is it lining some fat cats' pocket? On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 11:46 AM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: The change in rules allowed me to get medicaid. Beats the hell out if just having VA coverage. I hate to be supportive of any of it, but there are a few decent things in there like Jerry mentioned and no previously existing conditions. On Nov 14, 2014 12:19 PM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: Cool. On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson jmi...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, both specifically in Massachusetts (Romneycare), and I will be greatly helped by the cannot be denied if you switch jobs part of it. The fact that without it (and with the changes insurance companies had been moving towards) I would lose healthcare for pre-existing conditions (type 1 diabetes) means i could not switch jobs, which basically puts me in an indentured servant class. My sister's family was helped by better costs in Connecticut, for better healthcare coverage. On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Bruce Sorge sor...@gmail.com wrote: The Army uses try care for his medical benefits. It conforms with Obama care so nothing is changed for me Sent from my iPhone 5S On Nov 14, 2014, at 10:39 AM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: Just curious, is there anyone on this list who has personally benefited from ObamaCare? I'm not looking for political bullshit, or he-said-she-said crapjust wonderingit has to have helped SOMEONE, right? I want to hear about it. On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: I see the WP finally mentioned him but it's kind of a puff peace about how he's worth the $400k he was paid by the government. . On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Bruce Sorge sor...@gmail.com wrote: They are not interviews, their speeches. And Washington Post actually picked it up as well now ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372934 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: news of the week
Why was your plan eliminated? On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 10:39 AM, GMoney wrote: Just curious, is there anyone on this list who has personally benefited from ObamaCare? I'm not looking for political bullshit, or he-said-she-said crapjust wonderingit has to have helped SOMEONE, right? My plan was eliminated by Obamacare and the cheapest replacement was roughly double the cost. The cost going up again soon. My primary care physician is now converting to a concierge medicine (via mdvip.com) to avoid the sudden huge influx of the great unwashed masses. Keeping him as my doctor will now cost an additional $1,600 annually before I even see him once - which I am not going to be doing. So, I was fired by both my insurer and doctor for different reasons - both related to Obamacare. Not awesome. -Cameron ... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372937 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Late night conversation piece
Great post. Thanks for sharing. On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 8:01 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey chumph...@gmail.com wrote: My wife sent this to me: Why Don't More People Work As Programmers? http://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2014/10/31/why-dont-more-people-work-as-programmers/ Until Later! C. Hatton Humphrey http://www.eastcoastconservative.com Every cloud does have a silver lining. Sometimes you just have to do some smelting to find it. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372908 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Nothing about the Democrats massive defeat?
I don't think so. I think we will see massive attempts at gerrymandering and redistricting over the next 2 years, and I think the Republicans will make 10 of those 14 seat nearly untouchable in future elections. But I do agree there is definitely a pendulum effect in place. I do agree that the Democrats could hardly be less competent elections, mainly with their messaging. I do think that the amount of money spent to buy the election is obscene, but will not change any time soon. I do think that is it going to suck over the next few years to need the safety net, or compassion. I do think it is going to be a good time to be rich, and to be a business owner. I do think we are going to give away huge amounts of irreplaceable national resources to make a few people richer. I do think that any regulation on pollution or restrictions on environmental damaging industries will vanish I do think we will see Obama either cower (and never use his veto), or grow a pair and stand up with better messaging I do think we will end up in another major war. And I don't think a few years from now any of it will matter too much as the nation lurches back towards the left. On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 8:20 AM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: Don't flip out. This was in response to 6 years of Obama that included a massive overhaul to the health care system that has not been very popular at all. It's just the pendulum swinging. In 2 years, Republicans will have something like 24 seats up for grabs while democrats will only have about 10and the pendulum will swing back somewhat. Last night was not any great seismic shift. On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: I'm surprised :) Wow. That was a thumping. I thought the democrats were incompetent politicians before but now..geez. A campaign of misinformation in the media works, definitely. Now we will see what happens over the next two years. I hear their first order of business is to impeach Obama and push for another attempt to repeal Obamacare. So that might be the first year. If it is anything like Australia when the right wing took the country over, it's going to be a doozy. Google has a great diagram showing the results. https://www.google.com/search?q=US+elections+resultsrlz=1C1CHFX_enTT507TT507oq=US+elections+resultsaqs=chrome..69i57j69i65j0l4.3029j0j7sourceid=chromees_sm=93ie=UTF-8 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372867 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Nothing about the Democrats massive defeat?
I remember standing on a corner in Portland, about 2 blocks from the train station. A policeman was talking to a hippy on a bike, who was smoking a hand rolled cigarette. The cop just said in a disgusted voice Can you at least blow the smoke away from me? I saw plenty of open smoking, and never saw a cop react. On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: So, now that Portland has legal recreational marijuana, gay marriage, the equal rights, the largest number of strip clubs per capita, and the best beer scene in the United Stateswho wants to come by for a CF-Community meetup? :) Cheers, Judah On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 12:05 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey chumph...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: I am already dreading the election in 2 years. It will be yet another election where we need to choose form the best of bad choices. We need some serious campaign reform, sadly, no one currently in office would ever go for it. Actually, we need *politician* reform, hence my comment about both sides fielding fresh candidates. And you're right, the two parties aren't that different from each other in a lot of ways. The Dems did the same thing to Bush in 2006 that the GOP did to Obama in 2014 and got the exact same results. I'd have to check but I'm pretty sure the same thing happened with Clinton and Reagan. It feels that way at least. And in both Obama and Bush's case, neither their own nor their administrative actions (Federal administrative groups like Justice and State) helped their cause. I just listened to McConnell (and yes, his anthropomorphic equivalent is a turtle, you're welcome for that mental image). We'll have to see if he is able to keep most of what he said. Until Later! C. Hatton Humphrey http://www.eastcoastconservative.com Every cloud does have a silver lining. Sometimes you just have to do some smelting to find it. The last President to not lose Senate seats in the midterm of his second term was FDR as it turns out. So there is that. There were structural things that were stacked against the Democrats this time around, no doubt, but in the end, the election was determined by the same thing that they always are: who showed up and voted. Democrats were roundly stomped on despite gas being under $3/gallon, unemployment going steadily down, the stock market being up, and more Americans having health insurance than ever before. Why? The people who showed up to vote were more pissed off at them than they were complimentary, believing that the country is going in the wrong direction. I don't entirely disagree with them, either. The electorate skewed markedly older and the minority vote didn't break as far in Democrats favor as when Obama was on the ballot. Individual Senators/Republicans didn't necessarily give younger voters and liberal minority voters a reason to turn out and vote and they didn't. In my state, we had recreational marijuana legalization (which passed), the ERA (which passed), GMO labeling (which failed narrowly), and driver licenses for undocumented immigrants (failed hard) on the ballot in addition to our governorship and one senate seat. The result? Pretty high turnout (projected to be about 70%), a younger, more liberal electorate than nationally, and unexpected pickups at the state level that have resulted in our House and Senate moving to larger Democratic majorities. I have various opinions on the ballot measures and local candidates, but regardless of my feelings for them, more liberal voters turned out because they were given reasons to turn out and it was easy to do so (vote by mail). Republicans seem to be doing well at this for most elections (Pro-life ballot measures, anti-immigration measures, candidates that appeal strongly to the base) and Democrats seem to do this less consistently. Want people who are supposedly ideologically aligned with you to get out and vote? Give them a reason to. Cheers, Judah ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372876 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Past Discussion : Being a victim DOES affect your view of Justice.
I actually read this as people are selfish and self-focused, which is no surprise. THE victim of the immediate crime wants to be made whole, over any considerations of punishment or protecting the next guy. Non-involved parties are more interested in protecting the next guy, and punishment to prevent further crime, than making the victim whole. Both are completely self-focused. But in neither case does it say anything about the ability of either group to use rules and the law to RENDER a verdict, just that their perspectives differ on punishment/outcome once a verdict is reached. Which in the justice system is SELDOM left to a jury, for this very reason. (cases of capitol punishment are a different kettle of fish, in that a prosecutor decides to charge it, and the jury decides if the crime meets the criteria) On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: But, not necessarily in the way you presented it. more likely to punish wrongdoing as a third party to a nonviolent offense than when [they're] victimized by it. First..it talks about 'non-violent' crimes. Second, this goes against what you had argued. If I recall, your stance was that a woman who was gang raped would/should/could not be part of a jury in a rape case. On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: A while back, on the Rice domestic Violence issue I was of the opinion that being the victim of a crime such as Rape , would affect your view on punishment and justice for a similar crime. Many people were of the opinion that being the victim of a violent crime, even one of such a severe sexual nature, would not affect the view of Justice for that crime. Science says it does. Being the victim of a crime does affect your view on justice, and punishment. http://mic.com/articles/102728/science-explains-why-true-justice-is-actually-a-myth ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372847 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Past Discussion : Being a victim DOES affect your view of Justice.
It appears you missed his counter-argument, which overrules your petty attempts at logic. THBBBTT :-p On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: THBBBTT :-p So many semantics. If it affects the thought process about determination of punishment, it affects verdict. I disagree. one may not agree that a certain crime should be punishable by death, but I do not think that would interfere with them being able to determine if the person was guilty of said crime. That is a pretty big leap of logic/faith. -- Scott Stroz --- You can make things happen, you can watch things happen or you can wonder what the f*k happened. - Cpt. Phil Harris http://xkcd.com/386/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372850 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
TV Question
I am trying to track my tv viewing habits, so i have some good data about what i watch, and when. I want this data as we move towards a freeing of the tv viewing marketplace, so if eventually non-cable choices appear, I can make informed decisions. GetGlue used to be pretty good for tracking that stuff, but then they rebranded, and broke their model, and it doesnt do the tracking any longer. Does anyone have any better solutions for me than google spreadsheets? any thoughts appreciated. Jerry Milo Johnson ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372851 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Use your Spader sense
How about Pretty on Pink. He played a memorable bad guy there too. On Friday, October 24, 2014, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: Spader's break-out role was in a movie called Sex, Lies and Videotapes - great film, but very dark and weird. Then he played Daniel Jackson in the Stargate movie, and did a real great role as the young lover of Susan Sarandon in White Palace. Dropped off the radar for a while then came back strong starred opposite William Shatner in Boston Legal. I've been fan for years, but the way he looks now is kinda off-putting. No sex appeal left at all. Just creepy, bad guy vibe. He is still an excellent actor however. On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Bruce Sorge sor...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: The first time I heard of him was the movie Wall Street. I liked him then. And now, with Blacklist on TV, I really like him more. Heâs a really good actor and plays an excellent villain. I am looking forward to this movie. What I like is Joss Whedonâs statement âSpader was my first and only choice. Heâs got that hypnotic voice that can be eerily calm and compelling, but heâs also ver human and humorous. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372831 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Use your Spader sense
I have a Molly thing. Plus, any movie named for a Furs song is alright with me. On Friday, October 24, 2014, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: I have a ginger thing On Oct 24, 2014 2:28 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: In a severe case of Molly Ringwald avoidance, I never watched Pretty in Pink. On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 6:56 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson jmi...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: How about Pretty on Pink. He played a memorable bad guy there too. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372837 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: as if the BBC didn't piss me off already
iirc, the BBC is a government/tax funded media organization. so it is less like US corporations limiting access by region, than it would be the US government limiting access to taxpayers. which we also do quite a bit. I expect that eventually, the BBC will open up that program, but I also can see that opening it up will incur additional hard-money costs, which may not be in their charter or limited budget for this kind of thing. On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: The US does this with ALL its content. People outside the US could buy the Kindle for the full price, but got 100,000 LESS books in their store, AND had to pay a dollar EXTRA to buy books for the kindle. Netflix Latin America has far less movies than the US version, but it costs the same amount. Videogames are released sometimes a week earlier in the US than in the Caribbean and Latin America sometimes, and at other times you can't even buy htem because they are region locked. On Dell's website the US store has the latest processors. Stores for other regions have older processors, but the systems cost the same amount as the modern US systems. Hulu blocked VPN access to its entire library , to prevent people outside the US from viewing its content. The growth of VPN services is driven by people in the rest of the world trying to get around content blocks. What do you do on big screen phones and tablets? Many people want to watch movies, read books etc. Now what do you do when all that content is blocked from you, or the quality and availability is reduced if you are not in the US? But US companies will gladly accept your money (and it usually costs you as much as 35% more for the same product) , and then blame licensing. So...someone in the US complaining about Region Locking? Heh heh ;-) On 21 October 2014 16:26, Michael Dinowitz mdino...@houseoffusion.com wrote: My take on the BBC and the farce they call news is well known here but I don't say much against them publicly unless they REALLY deserve it. I just read that they created a Dr.Who game to teach kids how to program. OK, that sounds like a good thing...if your in the UK. It seems any Dr.Who or learning goodness that they've created is for Kingdom members only. Us rebels in he US are exempt as are all you other undesirables. Yes, they have every right to restrict content in whatever way they want and I have every right to be irked by it. Doctor Who and the Dalek: 10-year-old tests BBC programming game ⢠The Register ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372815 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: as if the BBC didn't piss me off already
I certainly dont know it costs nothing to make it available to more people. I doubt that is true. Heck, opening ANY site up to tens or hundreds or thousands more people is BOUND to cost significantly more. And I dont have any idea of the backend/management required to allow more people in, to administer more people, to grade the results, etc. I do know that a shoestring budget can easily be snapped by too much growth too soon. I also know that a lot of these kind of BBC initiatives (heck, even their responsive project was only a couple of devs) are skunkwork kind of projects, many of which never see the light of day. To me this is a nifty idea. Let's not rock its boat before we see if it can float first. On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: Except we all know it costs nothing to make that program available to more people over the internet. Nothing. It won't skyrocket bandwidth costs etc. , there was some research done on this for digital distribution channels when this was raised as a reason more content was not made available. What prevents it is artificial , beurecracy and in some instances price gouging and exploitation (perhaps not in this instance). On 22 October 2014 09:54, Jerry Milo Johnson jmi...@gmail.com wrote: iirc, the BBC is a government/tax funded media organization. so it is less like US corporations limiting access by region, than it would be the US government limiting access to taxpayers. which we also do quite a bit. I expect that eventually, the BBC will open up that program, but I also can see that opening it up will incur additional hard-money costs, which may not be in their charter or limited budget for this kind of thing. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372818 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Going to go see the First Lady today!!!
I don't see anything wrong with a 9 year old being excited about a rally or stump speech. They are meant to generate enthusiasm and emotion. Seeing the First Lady , regardless of party, should always be exciting. On Wednesday, October 8, 2014, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: ... On Oct 8, 2014 8:13 AM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com javascript:; wrote: My daughter, Rhiannon, really enjoyed it. You know you are doing parenting right when a 9 year old gets as excited about a political rally as she would for Disneyland LOL Boy I dunno. Indoctrinating my young daughter in the brand of partisan politics that her parents smear all over themselvesnot sure I'd be patting myself on the back. Much better to get them informed on American democracy, both historically and today, then let them make up their own minds when they reach voting age. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372758 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Health question
I had a horrible year 2 years ago with pain in my shoulder and rib cage. turns out it was the way I was sleeping - i would roll over onto it while sleeping, and the angle of the (double) pillow, and the shoulder, was causing actual damage. On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 8:51 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey chumph...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 7:52 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: I know you know this already but even though this email list is good for moral support - I would seek those opinions from your own doctors regardless of anyone's opinions on this email list. Yeah, but like others sometimes shared experience is better than a doctor that says, I think this might be contributing to what's happening... Loads of confidence there. Until Later! C. Hatton Humphrey http://www.eastcoastconservative.com Every cloud does have a silver lining. Sometimes you just have to do some smelting to find it. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372750 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: The Bitter Southerner
Fun. Good reads. I'll try again in a few days. If it still hits my quality bone I may send a little money their way. Thanks for sharing. On Wednesday, October 1, 2014, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: Thought I'd share this. A few on the list might enjoy reading some of the articles. Especially those in the south... http://www.forbes.com/sites/maxrobins/2014/09/15/the-bitter-southerner-might-be-the-vice-of-the-south/ http://bittersoutherner.com/ It's run by a neighbor of mine, Chuck Reese. -Cameron ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372733 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Joke Friday
I had a girlfriend I could literally drop to the floor laughing if I just started to tell that punch line So the bear... That was fun. On Friday, September 26, 2014, C. Hatton Humphrey chumph...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 10:40 AM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: Anyone heard any good jokes lately? What's brown and sticky? A stick A bear was taking a dump in the woods when a rabbit hopped up. The bear asked the rabbit if he had a problem with crap sticking to his fur... (you know the rest of the story) Until Later! C. Hatton Humphrey http://www.eastcoastconservative.com Every cloud does have a silver lining. Sometimes you just have to do some smelting to find it. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372696 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Joke Friday
Exactly. On Friday, September 26, 2014, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: I...don't know the rest but...the bear used the rabbit to wipe itself...is that the punchline? On 26 September 2014 12:30, Jerry Milo Johnson jmi...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: I had a girlfriend I could literally drop to the floor laughing if I just started to tell that punch line So the bear... That was fun. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372698 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Man accused of invading white house was a war vet
I don't think he was actually armed with a knife. Sadly, that is how these things are portrayed these days. I think it much more likely he had a pocket knife. Which like 20% of all guys carry at all times, along with a wallet, watch, and keys. On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: The Texas man accused of breaking into the White House on Friday night while armed with a 3.5-inch knife is a decorated U.S. Iraq war veteran, the U.S. Army said. A second man was arrested on Saturday for trespassing at the White House after approaching the White House gates on foot, being sent away and then returned in a vehicle, the Secret Service said. Read more: http://yhoo.it/1rhwyE4 http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fyhoo.it%2F1rhwyE4h=RAQHu09Yeenc=AZN6E-rWTADu6jEs6_dS5ScyQJeDp9f3TVo0RwwAhluaaEtKJFmNj5L0EfeOoe6mLXxIFVMzI0OAKbJW1t_jJfYWfUA8jgbsKiVAz1ExDXVFpMo_g5itV-xgRTgS6ZOdI3oIq8zOcO1XpKgHCAQRNjLus=1 This is the second incident, the last someone got onto the lawn. This time someone made it INTO the white house. What's up with that , secret service?? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372619 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Man accused of invading white house was a war vet
Well, we men always tend to overestimate what 3.5 means. =) All of the news reports have also mentioned armed with a knife. I am kinda happy with the Secret Service, even though everyone is down on them. They made a split-second decision to NOT shoot the guy. Not sick the dogs on the guy. And not taze the guy. Because, with their training, they didn't think he was a violent threat. Turns out they were right in their handling of THIS case. It needs to be looked at carefully, to make sure they didnt just fail into the right handling, but overall I think this worked out. And let's hope the guy is crazy. (And that the atmosphere of Earth isn't really all about to collapse). This would be the part in the Summer Blockbuster movie that the daring protagonist has to convince his jailers that he was not crazy, but right. On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: I just noticed the 3.5 knife. My brain seemed to have skimmed over what that actually meant. ;-) On 22 September 2014 09:57, Jerry Milo Johnson jmi...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think he was actually armed with a knife. Sadly, that is how these things are portrayed these days. I think it much more likely he had a pocket knife. Which like 20% of all guys carry at all times, along with a wallet, watch, and keys. On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: The Texas man accused of breaking into the White House on Friday night while armed with a 3.5-inch knife is a decorated U.S. Iraq war veteran, the U.S. Army said. A second man was arrested on Saturday for trespassing at the White House after approaching the White House gates on foot, being sent away and then returned in a vehicle, the Secret Service said. Read more: http://yhoo.it/1rhwyE4 http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fyhoo.it%2F1rhwyE4h=RAQHu09Yeenc=AZN6E-rWTADu6jEs6_dS5ScyQJeDp9f3TVo0RwwAhluaaEtKJFmNj5L0EfeOoe6mLXxIFVMzI0OAKbJW1t_jJfYWfUA8jgbsKiVAz1ExDXVFpMo_g5itV-xgRTgS6ZOdI3oIq8zOcO1XpKgHCAQRNjLus=1 This is the second incident, the last someone got onto the lawn. This time someone made it INTO the white house. What's up with that , secret service?? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372621 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Man accused of invading white house was a war vet
Sure. He watched The Walking Dead. That was for post-apocalypse survival, if he couldn't save the world. (seems so obvious) Actually, I really feel bad for the guy, and hope he gets help. I am glad he wasn't hurt, and didn't harm anyone nor himself. On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: Breaking News: A federal prosecutor said Monday that the intruder who evaded Secret Service and sprinted into the White House on Friday had 800 rounds of ammunition and various weapons, including a machete, in his vehicle. http://fxn.ws/1ue5B6J http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Ffxn.ws%2F1ue5B6Jh=4AQH5KSy8enc=AZOjbmXwDnQ0Oo7kDR07miLPkG7zjsuWgAib0jYkmAK7APtAmXFDA6ucsbw08sJaYaFRHUv5mi6LRaHW6gY504tnclKOa1xMCkJz8WkwGwb94A3ktfYy2aJQfXP3-vF68O6XRk5NCqLN8LslEJETsIxKs=1 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372625 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Sci-Fi Space Ships Comparison Chart
Hands down, Gay Deceiver. (From Heinlein's Number of the Beast) http://www.reasonablyclever.com/lego/gaydeceiver/three.htm And I bookmarked this page the other day. Love it. On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: You have to look at it full size to really get the effect, but I find this very cool. http://dirkloechel.deviantart.com/art/Size-Comparison-Science-Fiction-Spaceships-398790051 If you could have a spaceship, which one would you want? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372608 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Who's rocking iOS8??
Heck, I'm not even on the LAST iOS software update. On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: I installed the new keyboard, SWYPE. It is great for one handed text entry in all programs! I feel as though the phone, a 5s, is a bit snappier under iOS 8, and I like the camera software updates. Anyone found other useful new features? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372581 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Couple's_threesome_with_homeless_man_turns_violent _with_hamburger_meat
I think the ground beef was supposed to be a lubricant? On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 7:53 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: Small people, or a big tub. On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: .how the hell do you have a threesome in a bathtub? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372599 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Pistorious not guilty of murder
That's why he went with a bench trial, rather than a jury trial. Lawyers and judges have no problem setting aside reasonable conclusions, and falling back to there isnt enough evidence either way. Especially when they want to. Try to convince 12 peers he didnt do it. Wasn't going to happen with the evidence against him. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: Wow...justwow. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 8:09 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: What the hell!!? The guy shot his girlfriend 4 times in the bathroom!! He didn't even see her, he shot through the door, they were the only ones in the room! How the hell is this not murder!?? http://gawker.com/judge-oscar-pistorius-did-not-intentionally-kill-his-g-1633392801 So it drops to possible manslaughter, which has no minimum sentencing. He could get probation, or a fine. He cut someone off in the prime of their lives over most possibly an argument or his insecurity or some nonsense like that. I'm really surprised at the verdict. And after the judge said he was an unreliable witness, and wasn't truthful in many instances. So she is saying she KNOWS he's lying ! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372536 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: If physical appearance affects jury objectivity, trauma doesn't?
I still think anyone can be objective. But I do think that past experience _informs_ that objectivity. In the case of a trial, typically the lawyers on both sides push the bs frontier hard, and say and imply a lot of crap. Especially if they have a weak case. Someone who has experienced that same event, from EITHER side, is more likely to see through the bs than someone who hasn't. for example, if a rape suspect has a defense of how could the victim identify the attacker, it was dark. A former victim might, from personal experience, have a better idea if that were possible. I think if the defendant was truly innocent, they would WANT someone with first-hand knowledge to be able to see past the prosecutions stretches, and know what was and wasnt possible. The same reason you might want a chef on the jury for a case about cooking, or a ball player on the jury for a case about locker room behavior. They come with an expertise not found in the general public, who can only apply general knowledge to a subject. Of course, often a party does NOT want an expert around, since the last thing they want is the facts to be judged by a knowledgable person. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/so-sue-me/201408/do-attractive-people-fare-better-in-the-courtroom According to a Cornell University study http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/bsl.939/abstract by Justin J. Gunnell and Stephen J. Ceci, more attractive defendants are less likely to be found guilty http://www.psychologytoday.com/basics/guilt than less attractive ones. In addition, if there are monetary damages involved, then more attractive plaintiffs tend to receive higher rewards. Still find it baffling that people argued against that point. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372538 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Apple live event is starting!!
I carry a pocket watch. Swiss army. For the same reason. On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 10:19 AM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: I wear a winding mechanical watch on purpose. I can tell direction and relative piston in day and night with it. Time I can guess t mate if need be, for a period On Sep 10, 2014 8:48 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 9:50 PM, William Bowen wrote: Also... it's a fucking phone. I need a new phone and have an iPhone. I'll buy the 6 (the smaller one) when it's available to buy online but I am not standing in line and if the site crashes due to traffic I'll wait a few days. I do like the Apple ecosystem though. oh and a watch. Okay, so I was totally meh about the watch before the event but it's actually impressed me more than I expected. Did you guys watch the event video and see the details? Still meh? I haven't worn a watch in years. I think I am still going to wait for someone else to buy one so I can check it out in person and see how they like it. I can't imagine the battery life will be very good but it has some pretty promising features. -Cameron ... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372366 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Apple live event is starting!!
For me it is going to be about the heath benefits and body monitoring. I personally love the idea of tracking my data. I have a (1st gen) up band, and am hooked on that. Being able to expand that into a more connected device, a la tricorder or Dick Tracy, is pretty sweet. I also like the idea of the nfc payments. On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: I think the idea of a 'smart' watch is pretty cool, but I cannot think of a single use case that would make me, personally go out and buy one. It would be cool to have a golf app to track where I am on the course, but there is one problem...I do not wear a watch when playing golf. On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 11:44 AM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: Has that phenomenon ever been studied? I know several people who cannot wear watchesthey quit working after several days of touching their skin. My mom for one cannot wear a watch, never has been able too...they all die within a few days. On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 10:24 AM, William Bowen william.bo...@gmail.com wrote: Pocket watches for me, too. Wrist watches, mechanical, battery and even digital do not function for long when attached to my wrists... dunno why... On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 7:40 AM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: I always did like you Jerry :) On Sep 10, 2014 10:22 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson jmi...@gmail.com wrote: I carry a pocket watch. Swiss army. For the same reason. On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 10:19 AM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: I wear a winding mechanical watch on purpose. I can tell direction and relative piston in day and night with it. Time I can guess t mate if need be, for a period On Sep 10, 2014 8:48 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 9:50 PM, William Bowen wrote: Also... it's a fucking phone. I need a new phone and have an iPhone. I'll buy the 6 (the smaller one) when it's available to buy online but I am not standing in line and if the site crashes due to traffic I'll wait a few days. I do like the Apple ecosystem though. oh and a watch. Okay, so I was totally meh about the watch before the event but it's actually impressed me more than I expected. Did you guys watch the event video and see the details? Still meh? I haven't worn a watch in years. I think I am still going to wait for someone else to buy one so I can check it out in person and see how they like it. I can't imagine the battery life will be very good but it has some pretty promising features. -Cameron ... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372394 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Democrats set to lose the senate
Heck. He hits HIMSELF harder than that just to get psyched before a play. This guy gets hit for a living. My feelings are thus: A man should never punch a woman. Period. He shouldn't molest children. He shouldn't steal money. He shouldn't kick puppies. He shouldn't shoot people in a bar. And he shouldn't punch a woman. And if he does he has violated an inviolate man-rule. And will be shunned. It really at this point has nothing to do with her, and everything to do with him putting himself on the other side of the acceptable behavior line by his actions. Not everyone may agree with that line but we are seeing most people do. So he needs to suck it. He has put himself outside societal norms. There is a path back but he is going to have to work on it. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372414 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
xkcd comic : it's NOT turtles all the way down
http://xkcd.com/1416/ fascinating. use the scroll to zoom. infinitely. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372457 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Ray Rice
As a plea of sanity here, just as there is no justification for Rice to punch his fiance, I think we need to as a group dial down the rhetoric and personal attacks. Even IF someone is defending Rice, or thinks what he did was OK, or is just playing devils advocate or trolling, that doesn't take away YOUR need for civility or decorum. Disagree. Argue. Think less of a person. But name calling and questioning someone's soul is a little much I think. âOr so I think. Of course, we might not have all the facts on the Rice video, and should therefore withhold judgment and outrage. For example, there COULD have been a really annoying bee on her, and she might be allergic to bees. He might have SAVED HER LIFE. Well, it could be. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372469 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Apple registered its apple watch trademark in Trinidad and Tobago first
You knew...and you didn't tell us?!?! On Wednesday, September 10, 2014, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2014/09/10/name-of-apple-smartwatch-wasnt-a-secret-at-least-in-trinidad-and-tobago/ For months, tech consumers speculated on what Apple http://online.wsj.com/public/quotes/main.html?type=djnsymbol=AAPL Inc. AAPL +3.07% http://blogs.wsj.com/public/quotes/main.html?type=djnsymbol=AAPL?mod=inlineTicker would name its new smartwatch. Predictions that it would be dubbed iWatch were proved wrong when the company on Tuesday lifted the curtain on the wearable device: Apple Watch. But in fact, Apple had tipped its hand months earlier, planting clues thousands of miles away in a trademark office in the southern Caribbean. On March 11, the company submitted a trademark application for âApple Watchâ http://ec2-107-20-213-213.compute-1.amazonaws.com/trademark_search/catalog/dd238b67-591c-4c18-b952-4064c1e8fca6 in Trinidad and Tobago, an archipelagic republic off the coast of Venezuela with a population just above one million. :-D hee hee hee ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372481 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Ray Rice
I think there are more conservatives ( of varying ideologies ) on this list than we know. And I don't remember Hatton, who I would consider fairly conservative, being attacked in this way. And in this case, although I would not consider you conservative on many topics, you are getting a similar talking-to although of a different tone (due I think to your tone in response). On the other side, I see a similar treatment of Eric (and Dana back in the day) when their conversation style became abusive. On Wednesday, September 10, 2014, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't gotten any of this from what Rick posted. But maybe I wasn't paying enough attention. I think the whole what-Rick-said has gotten way over the top. Do you realise that almost everyone with a conservative ideology that joins the list gets attacked viciously after a short time of posting? On 10 September 2014 17:30, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: If, as his postings indicate, he is okay with abuse and has admitted he would strike a woman who confronted him, the community needs to know it. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372483 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Ray Rice
Look at Ochocinco (Chad Johnson). One slap and his career was over. Sure, he was on the backside of his career, but he still has moves and speed, in a league that is short of them. There were a number of teams that were interested after Miami dropped him - but didn't want the social backlash. On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Scott Stewart webmas...@sstwebworks.com wrote: You only need two words Ray Lewis On Sep 9, 2014 12:07 PM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: Oh I'll take that bet. On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Scott Stewart webmas...@sstwebworks.com wrote: Don't think for a second that another team won't pick him up once his suspension is up. Even if he does get convicted he won't spend much time if any in prison. He's got enough money to afford a good lawyer, they'll find a lenient judge and his wife will testify that he's a changed man and he'll never do it again.. My estimate is that he'll be on someone's practice squad by mid season and starting again next season. On Sep 9, 2014 11:56 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: The main point is she married the abuser so she could get a payout. Now TMZ ruined her life. Now she's married to a elementary school pe teacher. Wait... maybe he shouldn't be around kids with that temper. . On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: This some new info that someone posted: Rice and Janay Palmer were both initially arrested for simple assault after Rice was caught pulling his unconscious fiance out of that elevator. The charges against Palmer were dropped and the charges against Rice were upgraded to aggravated assault six weeks later after the case was presented to a grand jury. So after another review, the charges were escalated on rice and dropped on palmer. Changes my view somewhat, but not entirely. My view is: Rice used too much force No evidence so far to conclude that this is/was an abusive relationship, or that either of them are serial abusers. His wife was an aggressor initially based on the footage outside the elevator. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372139 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Two bad choices
One has history of campaign promises. I would look at the campaign promises of their past, and their ATTEMPTS to fulfill them. (can't take away TOO many points for not getting others to play nice). I would also look at how well they WERE able to move their personal agenda forward by working with others. One has no history, so nothing to compare promises/rhetoric to actions. But, the personal item, for me, is a negative. But after that mistake, it does appear that they have done the right things. But the fact that they are running on those very values that were failed is a bigger negative for me than the rest. So, with no evidence of not following up campaign promises, I would have to take their word that what they are saying they will do, they will do. I can handle overpromising. I have a harder time with specific hypocrisy, especially on the main bragging point. (newt screaming family values, dodd running on banking reform, jefferson running on anti-corruption) Incumbents for me start out with a -5. lifelong politicians -1. but effective lifelong politicians get a boost. and effective politicians still climbing the ladder (mayor to congress) get a few points for trying to spread their success. Obstruction and hate are big negatives for me. And spending more money are moderate negatives for me. And too much getting in other people's business are big negatives (religion, money, unneeded regulation, sex, etc) Genuine belief in their agenda is a big plus for me, even if I don't agree. I too would have a hard time with this race, but I actually in this case think either would be ok. On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 4:26 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey chumph...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Scott Stewart webmas...@sstwebworks.com wrote: Damn.. And no one got the Winger reference. Got it, looked at it, set it gently on the ground and walked away. Either that or I've been numbed by too much DM lately. Until Later! C. Hatton Humphrey http://www.eastcoastconservative.com Every cloud does have a silver lining. Sometimes you just have to do some smelting to find it. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372251 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Democrats set to lose the senate
Speaking of the VA, I found this funny. And sad. And funny. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10205150521469065set=a.10200795020304258.2213235.1425649256type=1theater On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: Those were more or less the same results when the system in England was examined. A lot of hyperbole was being thrown around which were not matched by reality. On 9 September 2014 16:50, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: http://www.roanen.com/presidential-thoughts-blog/how-much-is-welfare-fraud-c osting-us Here's another at 2% ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372252 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Ray Rice
He means that the light slap that she hit him with in the hall before they got on the elevator should be treated exactly the same as the two punches by Rice that knocked her out. Since they are exactly equivalent in every way. =) On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 9:51 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.com wrote: I'm just going to jump into the middle of this, only knowing what has been said in this thread: What should happen to the woman concerning her battery? I'm not sure what you are getting at, Rick, could you clarify? What do you mean should happen to the woman? Since she is the victim, I'd say she should get support by the system to help her press charges (if she wants), receive counseling (if she wants), and generally get help navigating a sometimes maze-like justice system that can be overwhelming. Judah ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372038 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Ray Rice
Plus, Rice did not SLAP her. Those were full on punches thrown by a professional athlete in the prime of his physical prowess, against a girl he outweighs by a hundred pounds. and for me it wasnt just the punch. it was the complete disregard or remorse he showed AFTERWARDS. No worry about how she is doing. No common human decency. If _anyone_ dropped like she did, you would think basic human decency would kick in, and he would check on her. It was almost as if he knew what had happened, and was ok with it. As if this was not a new thing, and it was normal. On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:32 PM, Ray Champagne r...@raychampagne.com wrote: But it WAS a woman, and he WAS a man, and he should have showed more control considering the size of him vs her. No excuse for that shit. There are easier and more safe ways of subduing your attacker in the situation he was in. Blaming the victim for being too aggressive is bullshit in this case. It went from zero to 100 in seconds. On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: Forget the woman, let's look at two men. The guy slaps Rice in the hallway. Then the guy slaps rice again inside the elevator. They push each other around, then the first guy comes at Rice AGAIN, a third time. Then Rice slaps himand he falls unconscious. If this was not a man-woman issue, what would be the verdict? Stalemate? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372064 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Mexicans of African descent founded Los Angeles today.
That is a great article, thanks for sharing. I was vaguely aware of that, although when I thought African ancestry for those early settlers, I always imagined Moorish influence, northern Africa up on the coast of the Med, which also had a large impact historically on the early Spanish settlers, especially the workers who made up the bulk of the settlers. Nice. Thanks. On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: https://face2faceafrica.com/article/los-angeles-pobladores#.VAx2e_ldV8E I did not know this. The *Los Angeles Pobladores*, or âtownspeople,â were a group of 44 settlers and four soldiers from Mexico who established the famed city on this day in 1781 in what is now California. The settlers came from various Spanish castes, with over half of the group being of African descent. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372078 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Monitor Suggestions
We have 2 asus monitors, for mac minis, and they have had zero problems, and look great after a year. My feeling is these dvi high-res monitors have become commodity items again (they are all roughly equivalent on price and feature and display quality). On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Bruce Sorge sor...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy all, I have a question regarding a new monitor. I have a MacBook Pro and currently have an older Dell monitor. The quality is not as good as I'd like. While I would LOVE to have an Apple monitor, I really can't justify the cost. So, any good recommendations on a nice non-Apple monitor? I currently have a Thunderbolt/DVI adapter and I'd like to stick with DVI. Also, nothing smaller than 19. Thanks and everyone have a happy, fun and safe Labor Day weekend. Bruce ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:371983 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Monitor Suggestions
no effect on the resolution, but logic says that any conversion has the potential to add loss or corruption to the signal. not sure about the dual link. i just had i think a thunderbolt to dvi connector, and it plugged in. so easy i didnt really notice details, and the screen is sharp and crisp. i would think about ray's recommendation, though, as the things he mentions I dont know if I would even notice. I still have a 27 tube tv at home, not even hd. so take my visual requirements with a grain of salt. On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Bruce Sorge sor...@gmail.com wrote: Matthew, minimum 19 display. Regarding IPS or TN, I don't really know since I don't know enough about the two to make an educated decision. I don't game on my computer (that's what my PS3 is for) and I don't watch movies on my computer either (again, the PS3 with Netflix and Amazon Prime). I do school work, surf the web, do web development and play around with Photoshop. The only reason why I am even considering a new monitor is because a few times when I slid my browser from the Dell to the laptop display, I noticed a huge difference in quality. So based on this, not sure what I need. Ray, I have been looking at Samsung. They make great TV's (I own two Samsungs) so I don't see why their monitors should be any different. Jerry, from what I understand, if I go dual-link DVI, i should get a good picture, right? Or am I missing something. I don't mind buying another adapter for a different connection though. One question that I do have, and I will do some of my own research as well; does converting from thunderbolt to (enter connector name here) have any affect on the resolution? Thanks again everyone. On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Ray Champagne r...@raychampagne.com wrote: Samsung. Bright colors and defined blacks. On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson jmi...@gmail.com wrote: We have 2 asus monitors, for mac minis, and they have had zero problems, and look great after a year. My feeling is these dvi high-res monitors have become commodity items again (they are all roughly equivalent on price and feature and display quality). On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Bruce Sorge sor...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy all, I have a question regarding a new monitor. I have a MacBook Pro and currently have an older Dell monitor. The quality is not as good as I'd like. While I would LOVE to have an Apple monitor, I really can't justify the cost. So, any good recommendations on a nice non-Apple monitor? I currently have a Thunderbolt/DVI adapter and I'd like to stick with DVI. Also, nothing smaller than 19. Thanks and everyone have a happy, fun and safe Labor Day weekend. Bruce ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:371987 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Monitor Suggestions
speaking of price checking on phones, both my local Target and my local Walmart now block and interrupt data signals on phones, so you cannot use the internet reliably in the store. (and no, it wasnt just bad signal, since the pharmacy person kept telling people no, the new walmart pharmacy app wont work inside the store, you have to go over to the door.) On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Bruce Sorge sor...@gmail.com wrote: I'll have to install that. Thanks. On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Ray Champagne r...@raychampagne.com wrote: If you have the amazon price check app on your phone, you can scan the bar code at BB and then ask them to match. I'm pretty sure the new CEO there instituted this policy a while back to try and battle back at Amazon. That way you get the best price AND have them in your hand today! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:371996 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
The Kennewick Man Finally Freed to Share His Secrets
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/kennewick-man-finally-freed-share-his-secrets-180952462/?all Fascinating. Great long-form article on the topic, but really just whets the appetite for the full study to come out. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:371979 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Ferguson explained by John Oliver
Thanks. That was good. On Tuesday, August 19, 2014, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/8/18/6030265/john-oliver-ferguson-monologue Here's just a taste: No one should ever be allowed to say there is no history of racial tension here, because that sentence has never been true anywhere on Earth. We won't spoil the best part for you, but Oliver and his team have dug up just what one police department put in the document requesting military-grade equipment http://www.vox.com/2014/8/14/6003239/police-militarization-in-ferguson. It's as ridiculous as you might expect. If you have the time, watch the whole thing. If you only have a couple of minutes, go to 12:40 and watch the last 149 seconds. That's a great summary of what Oliver is saying, and one of the best summaries of the problems with police militarization yet. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:371966 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: RIP Robin Williams...
I think he and Andy Kaufman have something planned. It is a shame that those that make us laugh most and best seem tortured by the depths of emotion they themselves feel and the insight into their fellow humans. I saw him twice live, once in the late 80s in a small club, once in the late 90s in a huge theater. And both were memories I cherish. It seems trite to say, but it is true. He will be missed. On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 8:19 PM, Michael Dinowitz mdino...@houseoffusion.com wrote: Baruch dayin emes. (Blessed is the true judge) I had heard of his drug problems in the past but never that he was ever suicidal. Until there's an official report labeling it a suicide, I'm going to reserve any thoughts in that area. All I know for a fact is that he's dead...or is he. Maybe this is all a setup for a (cruel) joke on his part. I'm going to go and look for the news. :( On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: *twisting my ears* Nanoo Nanoo brother... He died of an apparent suicide. :-( ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:371956 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Football Season
Are there specific games or teams you want to see, or just the general football sunday lineup that appears on broadcast channels? On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 8:04 PM, Erika L. Rich elr...@ruwebby.com wrote: Hello everyone! Yeah, I'm still lurking ... did ya miss me? ;) Didn't think so :P So football season is almost here, and we're almost ready to cut the cord on Dish or any form of TV subscription and switch to either Apple or Amazon as a solution. We don't watch anything live, and I want to save the $125 a month. That said... football season is almost here :( What are my options to watching live football? AT HOME. I don't care if I have to pay a nominal fee for a streaming service, etc. So I am not only looking for a free solution... just one that I don't know about that may exist somewhere. As a caveat: I DO NOT - repeat - DO NOT have access to UVerse or Cable. Our only options here in the boonies are satellite services. Thanks!! -E ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:371948 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: trying to get a query for a year
AND year(c.DtChildCreated) = 2011 On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Matthew Smith chedders...@gmail.com wrote: Off on my where clause: WHERE ft.Tag = 'bor' AND c.DtChildCreated 2011-01-01 AND c.DtChildCreated 2012-01-01 Getting 0 records. -- Regards, chedder is bedder ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:371946 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Sometimes...
Well, no. Scrum is an attempt to apply engineering principles to a historically unmeasurable process. and like with baking, or making cement, following the process AS CLOSELY AS POSSIBLE is the actual purpose. the client can say i need a double batch, or I need it to dry underwater, but that just directs the team to change the formula, the client doesn't get to say add more lyme, and use orange juice instead of water. when done well, i have seen it work great. but i usually see a train wreck. but that is true of all dev methodologies. which is why agile seems like the promised land for pms and managers. On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 8:17 AM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: Uh, the only RIGHT wayis the way the client tells you to do it. Because the only right way, is the way that gets you paid. On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 7:14 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: Hour long 'scrum', regardless of the reason, is doing it wrong. PM should be giving client a briefing based on the daily scrum or if client insists on being on call, they should play by the 'rules'. Sounds like client doesn't understand how the daily scrum is supposed to work and that no one is willing/able to explain it. On Aug 4, 2014 1:10 PM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: He might be under similar constraints that my project is given. The client deemed our project essential and critical, and they want observation and updates daily.so we are forced to have our clients on the phone with us for our daily standups. You can imagine how this complicates things. Agile scrums can be corrupted just like any other process...we've had hour long stand-ups because the client steers them that way. Eric probably has some similar externality that is butchering his Agile purity. On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: Hour scrum? Yea...you are doing it so very wrong. If our daily scrum is more than 5 minutes, I get antsy. On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: We have an hour meeting every day for our scrum, plus a retrospective and a scrum panning session during a new sprint. Those meetings can go up to 2 hrs...I think it is just an excuse for management not to do it's job... -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 10:41 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Sometimes... Againif you spend that much time in meetings, you are not doing 'agile' correctly. On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 8:32 AM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: AMEN!!! Our shop is going full blown Agile, and the meetings are driving me nuts. On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com wrote: LoL, that is priceless. I'm so glad our team isn't agile. Waste of frigging time that is... 2 days a sprint wasted to meetings. Working with the agile process I see LOL -Original Message- From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:chumph...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 1:14 PM To: cf-community Subject: Sometimes... Sorry, have to vent. Work's being a bit more bang head here-ish than usual. Guess the next skills I need to develop to advance my career are telepathy, time travel and insomnia. Happy Friday, folks! Until Later! C. Hatton Humphrey http://www.eastcoastconservative.com Every cloud does have a silver lining. Sometimes you just have to do some smelting to find it. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:371926 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Israel rejects US/UN ceasefire proposal. Wants to continue fighting into Gaza.
not just rearm. massively rearm. the current embargo at least keeps the rockets and arms to small smuggle-able ones, usually in parts. without that in place, expect heavy armor and missile launchers like we are seeing in the Ukraine. I think everyone, on all sides of this conflict, acknowledge that given the ability, Hamas would upgrade their weapon systems as soon as they could. On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 4:44 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: The hey, let us rearm clause On Jul 25, 2014 3:10 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: If I remember correctly, Hamas rejected the first one because one of their demands is lifting the siege on Gaza. Israel would not agree to that. -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 2:00 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Israel rejects US/UN ceasefire proposal. Wants to continue fighting into Gaza. I haven't found the terms of the first one that Hamas rejected but these are supposed to be the basic terms that Kerry suggested in the latest proposal. The second one is apparently the sticking point with Israel as it raises PA to a negiotating partner level. Kerryââ¬â¢s initiative stipulates the following terms: 1. A one-week, temporary cease-fire, starting Sunday, during which Israel Defense Forces troops will not leave the Gaza Strip entirely and will continue to locate and destroy Hamas tunnels. 2. During this cease-fire, Israel and Hamas will begin negotiations on a more permanent arrangement, with Egyptian mediation. The Palestinian Authority will participate in these talks. 3. The United States, the UN secretary-general and the European Union will provide guarantees to both sides that the negotiations will deal with the issues important to them - for Israel, disarming Gaza of its rockets and tunnels, and for Hamas, ending the blockade of Gaza and repairing the damage the Strip has suffered. Read more at http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/43643_The_Terms_of_Kerrys_Israel-Hamas_Cease-Fire_Proposal_-_Update-_Israel_Rejects_Kerry_Proposal#Ug6XC2X5MhFQY0As.99 On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: Do we have a concise guide to what the differences between the two proposals were and the stated reasons for rejecting them? On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 11:32 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey chumph...@gmail.com wrote: This is not the first cease-fire that has been rejected. Hamas rejected the first one. http://online.wsj.com/articles/kerry-presses-hamas-to-accept-egyptian -cease-fire-plan-1406041049 Until Later! C. Hatton Humphrey http://www.eastcoastconservative.com Every cloud does have a silver lining. Sometimes you just have to do some smelting to find it. On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.businessinsider.com/israel-just-rejected-kerrys-ceasefire- proposal-2014-7 Israel seems to want to continue fighting through the center of Gaza, rejecting the temporary ceasefire. One of their complaints is that it raises HAMAS to an equal negotiating partner or some such rubbish. Basically, they want to continue this engagement until they win ... whenever and however that will be. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:371873 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Hamas rockets found in a UN school
Plus there was this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7wiu6V-J98 Armed Hamas fighters using UN ambulances to enter and exit gunfights. On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.thewire.com/global/2014/07/hamas-rockets-found-in-second-united-nations-school/374874/ Yes so this is happening. Still don't think it is reason enough for killing children etc. inside these schools, and hospitals. ᧠~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:371845 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Slaughter of civilians by Israel...
I don't think these munitions are meant to minimize casualties. They are pretty much kill people but leave buildings intact anti-personnel weapons. And I think the rational goes we warned civilians we were going to shell there. anyone outside after that is fair game. I don't quite buy that, but we are now in an ground actual war, where this kind of shelling to suppress any hostiles outside of cover before soft-shelled friendly troops enter is common doctrine. It may not be right, but it is war, and normal. On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: And this is how Israel tries to prevent civilian casualties. By using ammunition that is specifically designed to cause as much damage as possible, to as many people as possible. Can anyone explain this? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israelgaza-conflict-israeli-military-using-flechette-rounds-in-gaza-strip-9617480.html ᧠~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:371800 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Slaughter of civilians by Israel...
As far as is known, the Hamas leadership in Gaza was not part of the chain of command behind the abduction, carried out by a Hamas cell from Hebron on July 12. No, it wasn't Hamas, it was Hamas? â ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:371697 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Slaughter of civilians by Israel...
(And thank you, that was a great post, which I will read in more depth when I break for lunch.). On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson jmi...@gmail.com wrote: As far as is known, the Hamas leadership in Gaza was not part of the chain of command behind the abduction, carried out by a Hamas cell from Hebron on July 12. No, it wasn't Hamas, it was Hamas? â ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:371699 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: : Hillel Neuer Takes on U.N. Human Rââ¬Â¦ on YouTube
Well, or pro-Israeli, and holding them to higher standards than, say, Bashir. On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:12 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: : Hillel Neuer Takes on U.N. Human Râ¦: http://youtu.be/uhWgZu6tcZU Atrocities are happening in places all over the world. If you weren't worked up until now you're not pro human rights, you're just anti Israel. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:371711 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: 9 questions about the Israel Palestine conflict you were too embarrassed to ask
The Philadelphia Corridor is actually a cleared no-man's land between Gaza's southern border and Egypt. It used to be controlled by Israel, so even that southern border used to be blockaded by Israel. When Israel withdrew from Gaza, my understanding is they turned that strip over to the PA/Hamas. Egypt though still patrols its side of that strip, and forbids anyone crossing it or tearing down the walls and fences on either side of that strip. I dont see Israel opening their border with Gaza any time soon (without keeping total control of who and what enters). But Egypt should be an easier sell eventually. Unfortunately for Gazans, the current Egyptian government hates Hamas more than they hate Israel. On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:43 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: Saying that both states are relatively new Is somewhat misleading. Israel does not have a complete blockade on the Gaza strip. It can't, it borders another country. Also Israel allows tons of supplies and stuff into Gaza when there aren't rockets flying around. As a matter of fact they did yet another 5 hour cease fire today to let in supplies. http://www.vox.com/2014/7/17/5902177/9-questions-about-the-israel-palestine-conflict-you-were-too ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:371723 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Slaughter of civilians by Israel...
right, which is why although the shelling was bad (250 dead), this ground attack will at least quadruple that number. ground wars in urban environments are never good. On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: And there goes the excuse that Israel couldn't enter Gaza with ground troops to directly go after those it was targeting. http://www.businessinsider.com/israel-launches-major-ground-operation-in-gaza-2014-7 Now it seems it is an all out war. The article also notes the near constant bombardment of Israel by Hamas, and that some idiots tried to enter Israel via tunnels. ᧠Whole thing just became even more of a clusterf* ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:371736 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
On the subject of responsibility, this seems on point.
http://www.duffelblog.com/2014/07/green-beret-ponders-just-war-theory-shooting-man-face/#!bfZUAv ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:371629 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Slaughter of civilians by Israel...
Wow, this comment for me was a perspective adjustment. (although I would replace Gazans with Hamas) Any thoughts? Hannah Axford New York 49 minutes ago http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/17/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-strip.html#permid=12303942:12304451 If the Gazans were in the position of Israel, they wouldn't have killed 200 people of Israel. They would have killed all of them. On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 10:00 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: I think that we all know that Gel would not be talking smack about my wife, he'd be laying it on thick because he's a smooth Pimp Daddy, hyping all those Carnival bands he's tight with. And we all know that I'd be like, alright, alright because I appreciate game. Now my wife may not be picking up what he's laying down, but no worries, he's cool like that. On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: What a lame analogy. Read up on some of the laws relating to Self Defense and proportional force. What you are wrestling with, and coming to the wrong conclusion about, has already been considered and decided by the general community. And by those international laws (which seem to hold for everyone but israel) there is no proportionality in the force that Israel is using against Palestine right now. ᧠On 16 July 2014 19:47, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Someone was talking smack about someones wife. Let's say it was you about Judah's wife. You're the aggressor. Now he punches you. That escalated things so now he's the aggressor and you're the victim. Then you knock him down. He's still the aggressor. Then you stomp him while he's down and he says Uncle. You stomp some more. Now you're the aggressor again and he's the victim again. Then he pulls out a gun... and on and on. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:371685 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Slaughter of civilians by Israel...
As with most things, I don't see it so cut-and-dry. You are not really talking responsibility, you are talking moral culpability I believe. And I don't think it falls on any one group. Israel is culpable for firing the weapon. And for allowing the situation to sink to the point they have to. Hamas is culpable for forcing Israel to fire, knowing full well the consequences of their actions. The civilians who elected Hamas are culpable for making terrorists their elected government, knowing full well the type of government to expect. The civilians who allow rocket launchers on their apartment rooftops are culpable. Iran and Syria and China are culpable for arming Hamas with rockets. The Arab countries are responsible for forcing the Palestinians into those camps, and using them as pawns. Egypt is culpable for keeping the Gaza borders locked down. America is culpable for arming Israel. And for not forcing a better solution 10 years ago. and 20. and 40. There are degrees of culpability. But I guess here is my bottom line (that these talks have helped me solidify). There is no excuse or reason for Hamas to fire rockets into Israel. None. Zero. Not helping their cause, not helping their people, not helping their military objectives. The ONLY point for them to fire is to force a response from Israel, causing destruction and death to their own people, and then crying foul. They are the Suarez of the Middle East. Ow! Hit hit my mouth! All else flows from those rockets. And nothing else good will come to them while that is their only tactic. On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: Hamas would be responsible for any deaths from those missiles. Israel would be responsible for any deaths resulting from any counter attacks. As I mentioned to Sam, I think you guys are conflating the words 'responsible' and 'justified'. I am not talking about whether any of these actions is justified, rather, who is responsible for the deaths. On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 10:06 AM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: So over night the Israelis took part in a cease fire organized by Egypt. Hamas chose not to take part and fired 50 additional missiles On Jul 15, 2014 9:56 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: If you're going to analogize, at least put it in perspective. Let's say ranchers in CA, TX and AZ constantly fired missiles into Mexico every day. Mexico tells the US government to make them stop or they will fire back and the US did nothing. Then, Mexico called, emailed, texted and dropped leaflets to the houses, churches and schools that were firing the missiles explaining when and where the bombs would land. If the ranchers rallied more people to go to the target sites to die for the cause than that's on the ranchers and the people that showed up at the scheduled time. Unless Mexico went to the sites and checked, how would they know if civilians were there? Then you have to say to yourself, if these people are willing to die to send a message, they are probably willing to strap a bomb on and go to a crowded market so good riddance. But no, the Mexican government sends more notices pleading people to leave the targets at the given times, they use more precise weapons to limit casualties and they still get called the terrorist. It's called propaganda and you are buying into it. . On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 10:33 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: OK..so if Mexico launched an attack on the White House and civilians that lived or worked near the intended target died, Mexico would be absolved of those deaths as long as they warned us ahead of time? And, sorry, but they are still 'people'. maybe not people we like, but people nonetheless. Again, absolutely befuddled this is coming from you. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:371550 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Slaughter of civilians by Israel...
Almost. You missed the heavy police presence and arrests and killings and riots in the West Bank following the kidnapping of the 3 kids by both Israel and the pa. And you missed the arrest by the Israeli police of the 3 Israelis that killed heinously the Palestinian boy. But overall you got it On Tuesday, July 15, 2014, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: Are these the facts? - some private Palestinian citizens killed 3 private Israeli citizens - in retaliation, 3 private Israeli citizens murdered 3 (or was it more?) palestinians in particularly gruesome fashion - in retaliation for that, Hamas...which is PART OF THE RULING GOVERNMENT, began launching missiles randomly into Israel. - in retaliation for that, Israel began targeting the sources of those missiles. In doing so, they gave advanced warning of the area for their attacks. - in response to that warning, Hamas ordered citizens either into those areas, or to stay put if they were already there. And now we are wondering who is at fault for what in all this? Do I have this right? On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: No. I am talking about responsibility. Seems a lot of people are willing to give Israel a pass because the other guy made them do it. If Judah insults my wife and I tell him if he does not stop I will punch him in the face and he continues and I punch him in the face, am I not still responsible for my actions? Of course I am. Was I justified in them? Some might say yes, some might say no - but, justified or not, I am responsible for my actions. Same goes for Israel and Hamas - and every other country in the world. My overall point was, just because Israel warned the Palestinians what would happen doesn't mean they are not responsible for any civilian deaths - as some seemed to indicating. On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson jmi...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: As with most things, I don't see it so cut-and-dry. You are not really talking responsibility, you are talking moral culpability I believe. And I don't think it falls on any one group. Israel is culpable for firing the weapon. And for allowing the situation to sink to the point they have to. Hamas is culpable for forcing Israel to fire, knowing full well the consequences of their actions. The civilians who elected Hamas are culpable for making terrorists their elected government, knowing full well the type of government to expect. The civilians who allow rocket launchers on their apartment rooftops are culpable. Iran and Syria and China are culpable for arming Hamas with rockets. The Arab countries are responsible for forcing the Palestinians into those camps, and using them as pawns. Egypt is culpable for keeping the Gaza borders locked down. America is culpable for arming Israel. And for not forcing a better solution 10 years ago. and 20. and 40. There are degrees of culpability. But I guess here is my bottom line (that these talks have helped me solidify). There is no excuse or reason for Hamas to fire rockets into Israel. None. Zero. Not helping their cause, not helping their people, not helping their military objectives. The ONLY point for them to fire is to force a response from Israel, causing destruction and death to their own people, and then crying foul. They are the Suarez of the Middle East. Ow! Hit hit my mouth! All else flows from those rockets. And nothing else good will come to them while that is their only tactic. On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: Hamas would be responsible for any deaths from those missiles. Israel would be responsible for any deaths resulting from any counter attacks. As I mentioned to Sam, I think you guys are conflating the words 'responsible' and 'justified'. I am not talking about whether any of these actions is justified, rather, who is responsible for the deaths. On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 10:06 AM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: So over night the Israelis took part in a cease fire organized by Egypt. Hamas chose not to take part and fired 50 additional missiles On Jul 15, 2014 9:56 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: If you're going to analogize, at least put it in perspective. Let's say ranchers in CA, TX and AZ constantly fired missiles into Mexico every day. Mexico tells the US government to make them stop or they will fire back and the US did nothing. Then, Mexico called, emailed, texted and dropped leaflets to the houses, churches and schools that were firing the missiles explaining when and where the bombs would land. If the ranchers
Re: Slaughter of civilians by Israel...
I don't think Hamas is part of any pa coalition. They broke up with fatah and now solely administer gaza I thought. On Tuesday, July 15, 2014, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: I'd say two Israelis and an American but it's close. One Palestinian boy killed. A few beat up pretty good. Both of these were criminal matters until Hamas, a member of the coalition government of the PA decided to start lobbing missiles into Israel. I'm having a hard time with the logic some people have here. Pacifists become subjects. Is there a moral authority to ever do violence? On Jul 15, 2014 12:42 PM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: Are these the facts? - some private Palestinian citizens killed 3 private Israeli citizens - in retaliation, 3 private Israeli citizens murdered 3 (or was it more?) palestinians in particularly gruesome fashion - in retaliation for that, Hamas...which is PART OF THE RULING GOVERNMENT, began launching missiles randomly into Israel. - in retaliation for that, Israel began targeting the sources of those missiles. In doing so, they gave advanced warning of the area for their attacks. - in response to that warning, Hamas ordered citizens either into those areas, or to stay put if they were already there. And now we are wondering who is at fault for what in all this? Do I have this right? On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: No. I am talking about responsibility. Seems a lot of people are willing to give Israel a pass because the other guy made them do it. If Judah insults my wife and I tell him if he does not stop I will punch him in the face and he continues and I punch him in the face, am I not still responsible for my actions? Of course I am. Was I justified in them? Some might say yes, some might say no - but, justified or not, I am responsible for my actions. Same goes for Israel and Hamas - and every other country in the world. My overall point was, just because Israel warned the Palestinians what would happen doesn't mean they are not responsible for any civilian deaths - as some seemed to indicating. On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson jmi...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: As with most things, I don't see it so cut-and-dry. You are not really talking responsibility, you are talking moral culpability I believe. And I don't think it falls on any one group. Israel is culpable for firing the weapon. And for allowing the situation to sink to the point they have to. Hamas is culpable for forcing Israel to fire, knowing full well the consequences of their actions. The civilians who elected Hamas are culpable for making terrorists their elected government, knowing full well the type of government to expect. The civilians who allow rocket launchers on their apartment rooftops are culpable. Iran and Syria and China are culpable for arming Hamas with rockets. The Arab countries are responsible for forcing the Palestinians into those camps, and using them as pawns. Egypt is culpable for keeping the Gaza borders locked down. America is culpable for arming Israel. And for not forcing a better solution 10 years ago. and 20. and 40. There are degrees of culpability. But I guess here is my bottom line (that these talks have helped me solidify). There is no excuse or reason for Hamas to fire rockets into Israel. None. Zero. Not helping their cause, not helping their people, not helping their military objectives. The ONLY point for them to fire is to force a response from Israel, causing destruction and death to their own people, and then crying foul. They are the Suarez of the Middle East. Ow! Hit hit my mouth! All else flows from those rockets. And nothing else good will come to them while that is their only tactic. On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: Hamas would be responsible for any deaths from those missiles. Israel would be responsible for any deaths resulting from any counter attacks. As I mentioned to Sam, I think you guys are conflating the words 'responsible' and 'justified'. I am not talking about whether any of these actions is justified, rather, who is responsible for the deaths. On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 10:06 AM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: So over night the Israelis took part in a cease fire organized by Egypt. Hamas chose not to take part and fired 50 additional missiles On Jul 15, 2014 9:56 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: If you're going to analogize, at least put
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and their very first move should be to normalize relations with Egypt. By being a partner and a neighbor. Not a constant threat. Which could open up their southern border. Which won't happen as long as they use that border to import arms. All success would flow from that demilitarized border. On Tuesday, July 15, 2014, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: We are talking about this particular incident chain, not general terms, so this seems like an attempt at threadjacking, but sure, I'll answer. If I was in their place, I'd take a page from the Israel book. They are tiny, surrounded by a lot of hostile forces. But they have a great deal of international sympathy and backers. I'd work to focus efforts on internal self sufficiency while appealing broadly for aid. Strengthen the borders and be prepared to defend them vigorously. Don't attack externally and try to take more land before you even have a well-established region. Show a commitment to building a strong local market, to build an oasis, even in the shadow of very hostile neighbors. That's how you become attractive to the international community, how you build your case for an established homeland and independence, how you undermine the racist and awful arguments being lobbed every day from the worst parts of Israeli society and government. That's how you win. Judah On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com javascript:; wrote: Judah...these missiles are not being fired for shits and giggles...they are being fired because of Israeli oppression. The constant state of siege on Gaza. The constant incursion of Israeli settlers...plus many many other reasons. Netenyahu even came out and said that he doesn't support a 2 state solution. His party never has. As long as Israel keeps encroaching on Palestininan territory and the human rights of the Palestinian people...the missiles will continue to come. They have violated every agreement that has brought peace. If you were in the Palestinian's shoes...what would you do? Just give up and let Israel steamroll you? -Original Message- From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com javascript:;] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 9:25 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Slaughter of civilians by Israel... I get what you and Scott are saying, but what is Israel supposed to do? They are having a rather large number of missiles fired at them. Some of them to parts of Israel that no one thought they could reach. A ground force would be a huge escalation and the potential house to house combat could easily end up with as many civilians killed as air assault, though Hamas weapons might do more of the killing in that case. And there would be a great many more Israeli deaths. I absolutely do not believe that the aerial assault is the right thing to do on the part of Israel. But I also don't see what other options they have at this point. They should have gone down a very different political route well before this round of escalation, but they didn't. I fault them for that. But at this point, they are being attacked and I don't see a way to respond that does not incur significant civilian casualties because the legitimate targets (the ones firing the missiles) are mixed into a dense civilian population. Short of a cease fire that both sides can agree to, this is just going to play out as a tragedy on both sides. Judah On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 7:15 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: ᧠Yeah. After demolishing buildings, slaughtering entire families...they call a cease fire. right. I stand by my view that it should never have happened in the first place. Use of force on that scale,and with so many civilian casualties should never be justified. On 15 July 2014 10:06, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: So over night the Israelis took part in a cease fire organized by Egypt. Hamas chose not to take part and fired 50 additional missiles ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:371567 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
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What exactly do you think should be done in that situation, then, Gel? What specific steps and actions would YOU be taking if you were Israel, and were getting attacked dozens of times a day? On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: Sam, murdering innocent people and children is not self defense. That is utter and complete BS. Even a gun nut knows the concept behind self defense. If someone shoots at your house, self defense is not firing a bazooka and blowing up their entire home with their wife and kids inside. That will never be deemed self defense. ᧠On 14 July 2014 09:37, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: I did. You said they have an itchy trigger finger, but they have a reason. That's saying they're too quick or over-reacting. It's not, it's self defense. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:371448 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
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But they cannot move in with ground forces, not without incurring huge casualties on the Israeli side (why would they submit to that), and not with a lot more casualties of civilians in Gaza. And that would be worse in many ways, as it would be an invasion of another country. And they cannot enter Gaza like they can the West Bank (which they do enter often). Gaza is a whole nother angry ball of wax. There is no way to enter it with unarmored people. Heck, even the PA police cannot go into most neighborhoods and come out alive. (see the video of them being thrown off roofs if you need examples) Any ground invasion would need to be either an in-and-out unexpected raid (like the one sat night), or a full fledged invasion. Urban house-to-house warfare is not easy and clean. It is not as if a policeman with a blue belt and a whistle can go into Gaza and arrest people. It would need to be a full-level military invasion. Add up the numbers from the city fighting in Iraq for casualties. Approximately 1500 missiles and rockets and mortars have been fired by Israel so far. With 1000 injured and 200 killed. For the most part, that is some pretty amazing firing discipline. If their true intent was to kill, any one of those munitions could have doubled those numbers. Unfortunately, that childrens' saying is too true. close only matters in horseshoes and handgrenades. I think it is clear that they are not heartbroken if a missile goes awry. And are more than willing to kill a whole family to get a specific target. (that is where most of the child casualties have come from). And they are fine with any collateral damage from a strike on a legitimate target. And any secondary damage from the explosions of stored munitions are fine, too. But I also think they have gone out of their way to try to limit civilian casualties while still destroying the firing locations and striking the warehouses and factories that produce the rockets. It is horrible. Agreed. And it is war. Which is horrible. And the most horrible part for me is that Gaza SHOULD be the garden of Eden. It should be heaven on Earth. It should be a tourist attraction, and a vacation destination, and a thriving country. As for the thousands of rockets, and no deaths. Have you seen the way the Israelis run for bomb shelters when the rockets are coming? There is just as much terror on that side of the boarder as on the other. The fact that the rockets are less-well trainable, and that the Israelis have built a star wars missile shield (which I personally said during the Reagan administration was impossibe) does not lessen that terror. I dont have an easy solution, either. But I do think it all comes back to Hamas, and stopping them. And the only way to stop them is for the Palestinian people to stop them. I truly believe if they could be stopped, the rest of the world could lean on the Arab states to leave Gaza alone as a pawn, and then the world could lean on Israel to cut all ties. The West Bank is a different issue, but Gaza should be solvable in short order. On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: Whether they are targeting civilians or not, they are fully aware of the civilian presence in the zones they are bombing. They should receive no more flack by going in with troops to arrest or decommission these areas than they are for bombing. I've said what I think should be done. They move in with troops and police in many other instances. They can do the same. They can get satellite imagery of the area where these attacks are coming from, the can co-ordinate much better strikes, snipers... there is a host of conventional police and or pseudo-military responses they can make that: 1) Would not make such a splash internationally 2) Would not have anywhere close to the civilian death toll 3) Would not destroy Palestinian infrastructure and an already struggling economy. The report of hundreds of missiles is bullshit. Hundreds of missiles and not a single israeli death? nonsense. If that is the case then the threat is contrived given the technology Israel has deployed to defend itself. I mean just using common sense, and your knowledge of military systems, what sort of death toll would you expect if the US was to rain hundreds of missiles onto a civilian population...say a city like I dunno chicago or something like that? I mean common sense here. Zero casualties? Would you ever expect zero casualties? And if that were the case what would you say about those US missiles? On 14 July 2014 15:31, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: ᧠Israel isn't targeting civilians. It is targeting command and control and launch sites. The police are police. The so called occupying forces are in the military. Israel will catch real flack if they make major incursions into Gaza. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion
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If their house is being used to launch or store or build rockets, or is shares a wall with a building that is being used to launch or store or build rockets, is it then reasonable to have them leave before that building is blown up? (I think yes.) There can be legitimate questions on how accurate the information is, and how well vetted, and if it is true at all. (that the Israeli munition hit a legitimate target, and that it was the target it was being aimed for). That should be looked into. But the very fact that it should be looked into shows that we are holding the Israelis to a different standard than we are the Palestinians. How often are we asking if the rockets are being aimed at legitimate targets? There can be legitimate questions as to whether the people in those houses are supporting or have control over the actions of the Hamas militants with the rockets and their placement. If they don't, then leaving the area while a war is going on seems like a good idea. And the fact that they are even being warned it helpful (I know I would leave, even if it was to go sit in a field by myself, or huddle in a UN school like so many are.) If they do, then they are participants, albeit non-combatants. The fact that the war so far has had such limited casualties is frankly amazing. Picture if you will London. Or Paris. Or Dresden. Or Tokyo. Or Srebrenica. Or Sarajevo. Or Basra. The fact that there are kids in Gaza crouching in horror and fear is heartbreaking when I imagine it. I can remember crouching in fear from tornados and hurricanes and once from an escaped murderer from a local mental hospital loose in our neighborhood. I remember those events clearly. I try to imagine how much worse these kids are experiencing, and just cannot. It is horrible. But as long as Hamas is the government, and is playing these games with people's lives, I don't see how to end it. â ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:371513 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
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Wow, Tim. We crossed streams on our thoughts on that one. On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 7:49 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson jmi...@gmail.com wrote: If their house is being used to launch or store or build rockets, or is shares a wall with a building that is being used to launch or store or build rockets, is it then reasonable to have them leave before that building is blown up? (I think yes.) There can be legitimate questions on how accurate the information is, and how well vetted, and if it is true at all. (that the Israeli munition hit a legitimate target, and that it was the target it was being aimed for). That should be looked into. But the very fact that it should be looked into shows that we are holding the Israelis to a different standard than we are the Palestinians. How often are we asking if the rockets are being aimed at legitimate targets? There can be legitimate questions as to whether the people in those houses are supporting or have control over the actions of the Hamas militants with the rockets and their placement. If they don't, then leaving the area while a war is going on seems like a good idea. And the fact that they are even being warned it helpful (I know I would leave, even if it was to go sit in a field by myself, or huddle in a UN school like so many are.) If they do, then they are participants, albeit non-combatants. The fact that the war so far has had such limited casualties is frankly amazing. Picture if you will London. Or Paris. Or Dresden. Or Tokyo. Or Srebrenica. Or Sarajevo. Or Basra. The fact that there are kids in Gaza crouching in horror and fear is heartbreaking when I imagine it. I can remember crouching in fear from tornados and hurricanes and once from an escaped murderer from a local mental hospital loose in our neighborhood. I remember those events clearly. I try to imagine how much worse these kids are experiencing, and just cannot. It is horrible. But as long as Hamas is the government, and is playing these games with people's lives, I don't see how to end it. â ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:371514 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
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Thanks, Judah. That was needed. I always enjoy good.is. (I just wish they hadnt changed their format last year) On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 7:21 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: That's cool, and these kinds of things are what can cause reveal lasting change in the region. There's a youth movement called YALA that's pretty interesting, but I think swearing yourself to nonviolence in that area is akin to suicide. On Jul 14, 2014 7:01 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: As an antidote to the current shitstorm in the region, I'll give you something more hopeful and more delectable: a pop up restaurant collaboration by two chefs seeking to bridge the cultural and political divide that is segregated Jerusalem. http://magazine.good.is/features/an-israeli-palestinian-popup-restaurant-engages-in-gastric-diplomacy Makes me both happy and hungry. Judah ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:371515 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
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What do you use for an RSS reader? I kinda lost my RSS live when google canceled reader. Never found anything even half as good. On Monday, July 14, 2014, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: I follow them on RSS, cuts out a lot of cruft. On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson jmi...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: Thanks, Judah. That was needed. I always enjoy good.is. (I just wish they hadnt changed their format last year) On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 7:21 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: That's cool, and these kinds of things are what can cause reveal lasting change in the region. There's a youth movement called YALA that's pretty interesting, but I think swearing yourself to nonviolence in that area is akin to suicide. On Jul 14, 2014 7:01 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com javascript:; wrote: As an antidote to the current shitstorm in the region, I'll give you something more hopeful and more delectable: a pop up restaurant collaboration by two chefs seeking to bridge the cultural and political divide that is segregated Jerusalem. http://magazine.good.is/features/an-israeli-palestinian-popup-restaurant-engages-in-gastric-diplomacy Makes me both happy and hungry. Judah ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:371518 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
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I liked Sec Gen Ban's comment. Once again, Palestinian civilians are caught between Hamas' irresponsibility and Israel's tough response, Ban said. I don't have an easy solution, but I suspect that storing rockets in a church basement, while a shooting war is going on, is probably going to result in a bad outcome. What exactly do you believe _should_ be the response to an unending barrage of rockets fired at civilian population centers? I don't have a good alternate to suggest. On Saturday, July 12, 2014, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: There is ZERO justification for the murder that's happening right now. None. Not three kids, not 1000 rockets. Bombing civilians is completely wrong. And saying that there was maybe, perhaps one terrorist nearby is absurd. And I say again it would never be tolerated in other countries. ᧠~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:371437 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
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Israel is launching counterstrikes at the source of those innocent rockets. Or at the houses of known terrorist leaders. (Many of those civilians, including children, were family members of those known terrorists.). Does it make it right? No. Or smart? No. Or effective? No. But from what I have read (on many sources), the Israeli military strikes have followed the same form they always have. remove the source of the rockets (factory). remove the location of the rockets (warehouses), strike the launch point, and strike known leaders. Sadly, nothing new to see here. Actually, the rocket/mortar from Lebanon is a new wrinkle. I don't see a lot of options for them, until rockets stop being launched, with the backing of the Gaza leadership, into Israel. On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: Not hearing anything about the slaughter of innocent civilians by Israeli military. The kidnapping and murder of 3 Israeli teenagers is apparently worth the massacre of almost 100 people including 14 children by Israeli armed forces. I suppose all of them were terrorists, or just in the wrong place at the wrong time. I guess they all had a direct role in the crime. http://time.com/2973658/israel-gaza-hamas-war-operation-protective-edge/ On the other side, the stupid rockets launched by extremists in Gaza at Israel has produced...uhh...let me search...oh that's right None. I'm interested to see what the justification for the murder of 100 civilians by a military is. I'd really like to know, because I can't figure it out. If Putin had used tanks, HIND Helicopters and fired missiles and shells at civilians, and killed 100 in the Ukraine, what would have been the reaction? ᧠~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:371375 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
