Clustering ColdFusion - some black holes
Hello, There is some questions regarding clustering I've never found a clear / consistent answer on. I hope someone can give me the ultimate answers on my questions.. I've tried to generalize a bit to broaden the scope for this, Software Win2003/2008 32/64 bit - IIS6/IIS7 - CF7/8/9 Enterprise - 32bit/64bit Hardware 2-x servers with 1-x jrun/coldfusions instances on each (and 2 nics on each - one connected to the load balancer (via a switch) and one connected to internal network, db server etc (also via a switch)) Hardware load balancer in front of the servers, sticky sessions set on the load balancer x is a number - from 1 to whatever (number of servers and number of instances) Goal: One rock stable high performance ColdFusion cluster with session replication and quick failover when: * JRun/CF instance crashes * Physical server crashes * IIS on server chrashes The setup for the different software configurations is rather similar (if 32 bit you must pay attention to this, if 64 bit you must pay attention to that) In any configuration the clustering setup is very similar JRun instances All new CF instances is created from the default CFusion instance which is shut down and never used after the setup is done (same goes with JRun Admin Instance) Internal webserver on every CF instance is active with separate port addresses and separate instance names (8300 for admin, 8301 for instance one cfusion1, 8302 for instance two cfusion2, 8303 for instance 3 cfusion3 on physical server #2 etc.) Every CF instance have the remote port (JNDI port) set unique (both server wide and cluster wide) Clustering setup On one server (CFadmin / Instance manager) all remote instances is registered On the same server one cluster is created with round robin / sticky sessions / and replicate sessions set All instances is added to the clusters (for example 6 instances on 3 physical servers on the same subnet) (After this the servers is physically restarted) Connector setup On every physical server the Web Server Configuration Tool is run On every physical server the IIS webserver is configured with this settings: JRun Host: [The server where cluster was created initially] JRun Server: [The cluster name] All IIS websites (The server has multiple websites, hundreds) Configure web server for cf 7/8/9 apps This is where it gets confusing and I'm thinking I must have missed something vital during the setup procedure above. If the server where the cluster was created initially goes down, all instances goes down? Session replication is not very stable (have not tried on 9 yet) Is there something very wrong with the above configuration and setup methods? If so, what/where/why? ;) I've seen descriptions where the same cluster (same cluster name) is created on every physical server, and the connector setup is run against localhost, but that doesn't make sense either.. ? I've been googling for answers on all this many times, since no blog or site I've found have everything covered there are some black holes in the descriptions for setting up a cluster. It could also be that the hardware setup is the problem, but I'm hoping for some pointers here before I take a deep look on the HW side of it (which seems to be running just fine on the different setups I've tested) Thanks for any insight on this Helge ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341163 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name
We thought about trying that but yesterday, I noticed that our template caches were all disabled. :-/ .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 9:40 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name As you know Bobby, I have this problem aswell and have never been able to find a workaround. Well, I did but it's the ugliest hack you can think of. Clearing the specific templates out of the template cache manually on a scheduled task. But even with that I am still getting complaints from customers about errors on the webservice. Brook -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com] Sent: January-24-11 3:41 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name I have been experiencing this one in CF8 for a while now: http://cfbugs.adobe.com/cfbugreport/flexbugui/cfbugtracker/main.html?#bugId= 85391 The severity is listed as benign bug, has a workaround. but a workaround isn't mentioned. Manually changing the code when time the error happens so it goes away for a little while is hardly a workaround but that is all I see in the Steps to Reproduce section. Does anyone have any idea about what workaround they could be referring to? .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com http://acoderslife.com/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341164 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name
... thought about trying because you mentioned it before :-) .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 7:19 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name We thought about trying that but yesterday, I noticed that our template caches were all disabled. :-/ .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 9:40 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name As you know Bobby, I have this problem aswell and have never been able to find a workaround. Well, I did but it's the ugliest hack you can think of. Clearing the specific templates out of the template cache manually on a scheduled task. But even with that I am still getting complaints from customers about errors on the webservice. Brook -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com] Sent: January-24-11 3:41 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name I have been experiencing this one in CF8 for a while now: http://cfbugs.adobe.com/cfbugreport/flexbugui/cfbugtracker/main.html?#bugId= 85391 The severity is listed as benign bug, has a workaround. but a workaround isn't mentioned. Manually changing the code when time the error happens so it goes away for a little while is hardly a workaround but that is all I see in the Steps to Reproduce section. Does anyone have any idea about what workaround they could be referring to? .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com http://acoderslife.com/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341165 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name
Another attempt we made to get around it (since we were SURE it was cache
related) was to convert our object CFC to a java class.
So some background for those who might not have followed the old thread:
We have an object cfc. It is nothing but a few CFPROPERTY tags.
This would be an example of that entire CFC.
=
cfcomponent output=false
cfproperty name=property1 type=string /
cfproperty name=property2 type=string /
cfproperty name=property3 type=string /
cfscript
property1 = ;
property2 = ;
property3 = ;
/cfscript
/cfcomponent
=
Say it is called... properties.cfc
Then, in the webservice method, I made the returntype=properties (in the
same directory)
At the end of the webservice, I did something like:
=
cfscript
local.properties = createObject( component, path.to.properties
);
local.properties.property1 = somequery.value1;
local.properties.property2 = somequery.value2;
local.properties.property3 = somequery.value3;
/cfscript
cfreturn local.properties /
=
Occasionally, this will generate the following:
'coldfusion.xml.rpc.CFCInvocationException:
[java.lang.ClassNotFoundException :
path.to.properties][java.lang.LinkageError : loader (instance of
coldfusion/xml/rpc/SkeletonClassLoader): attempted duplicate class
definition for name: path/to/properties]'
Like I mentioned, we tried converting properties.cfc to a java class but I
could NOT get it to work in a webservice. It worked as a normal, local
component. The java class was very basic and is just the equivalent of the
properties.cfc above.
Example:
=
package com.prop.test;
public class properties {
public String property1 = ;
public String property2 = ;
public String property3 = ;
}
=
This is basically what I tried on the webservice side.
=
cfcomponent output=false
cffunction access=remote name=testMethod returntype=any
cfset propObj = createObject(java, com.prop.test.properties) /
cfset propObj.property1 = 1 /
cfset propObj.property2 = 2 /
cfset propObj.property3 = 3 /
cfreturn propObj /
/cffunction
/cfcomponent
=
Calling that like this works fine:
createOBject(component, path.to.webservice).testMethod() /
=
Calling it like this generated a Premature end of file error (I can hit
the URL in a browser fine and see the WSDL)
createOBject(webservice,
http://servername/path/to/webservice.cfc?wsdl;).testMethod()
=
Cannot perform web service invocation testMethod.
The fault returned when invoking the web service operation is:
AxisFault
faultCode: {http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/}Server.userException
faultSubcode:
faultString: org.xml.sax.SAXParseException: Premature end of file.
faultActor:
faultNode:
faultDetail:
{http://xml.apache.org/axis/}stackTrace:org.xml.sax.SAXParseException:
Premature end of file.
at
org.apache.xerces.util.ErrorHandlerWrapper.createSAXParseException(Unknown
Source)
at org.apache.xerces.util.ErrorHandlerWrapper.fatalError(Unknown
Source)
at org.apache.xerces.impl.XMLErrorReporter.reportError(Unknown
Source)
at org.apache.xerces.impl.XMLErrorReporter.reportError(Unknown
Source)
at
org.apache.xerces.impl.XMLVersionDetector.determineDocVersion(Unknown
Source)
at org.apache.xerces.parsers.XML11Configuration.parse(Unknown
Source)
at org.apache.xerces.parsers.XML11Configuration.parse(Unknown
Source)
at org.apache.xerces.parsers.XMLParser.parse(Unknown Source)
at org.apache.xerces.parsers.AbstractSAXParser.parse(Unknown Source)
at javax.xml.parsers.SAXParser.parse(S... ''
I am just about out of ideas... and by just about, I mean totally...
Any help or ideas on this would be GREATLY appreciated.
.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
Bobby Hartsfield
http://acoderslife.com
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Re: Clustering ColdFusion - some black holes
Goal: One rock stable high performance ColdFusion cluster with session replication and quick failover Is there a specific requirement for session replication? Because you might get generally better results if you just use sticky sessions. That buys you load balancing, but not complete failover - but it may be enough, if your failure rate is acceptably low. I've set up session replication for a couple of clients, and the whole thing just seemed a bit fragile to me. I'd prefer to use a database for session management in this case, I think - which might involve using Client variables instead of Session variables, or might involve custom code to synchronize Session variables with a database. I've seen descriptions where the same cluster (same cluster name) is created on every physical server, and the connector setup is run against localhost, but that doesn't make sense either.. ? Yeah, that doesn't really make sense to me either. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341167 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help needed with jpedal java integration
Works. A. treat. Thank you, and thanks Mark Mandel. Stefan On 24 Jan 2011, at 14:42, Leigh wrote: But the fact that the two jars seem to conflict with one another throws a real spanner into the works... Is there any way I could separate them and have both present in CF? Try using the javaLoader http://javaloader.riaforge.org/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341168 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Clustering ColdFusion - some black holes
Goal: One rock stable high performance ColdFusion cluster with session replication and quick failover Is there a specific requirement for session replication? Because you might get generally better results if you just use sticky sessions. That buys you load balancing, but not complete failover - but it may be enough, if your failure rate is acceptably low. I've set up session replication for a couple of clients, and the whole thing just seemed a bit fragile to me. I'd prefer to use a database for session management in this case, I think - which might involve using Client variables instead of Session variables, or might involve custom code to synchronize Session variables with a database. -- No, there is no specific requirement for session replication. It would just be nice to see if that could be sorted out at the same time. We encounter problems regarding this (clients losing their session) very seldom, but if the session replication was working as it should those problems would be eliminated also.. :) Thanks, Helge ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341169 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
cfpdf action=getinfo returns incorrect PDF sizes
Something seems wonky with cfpdf. I've looked at JPedal for my PDF to image conversion because cfpdf action=thumbnail would produce images that were not at 1:1 scale with the original PDF, instead they were smaller. When I open the PDF in Acrobat at 100% and measure via an on screen ruler I get a width of roughly 690pixels. CF tells me the width is 505. Height is also incorrect by the same ratio. I've now noticed that cfpdf action=getinfo also gives those same (and what I think are wrong) results for the dimensions. Bug? Or is Acrobat showing me the wrong size when I tell it to show me the PDF at 100%? To be fair I think it's CF that's getting it wrong. Anyone else noticed the same? Stefan ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341170 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Anyone know anything about this new ColdFusion conference?
The reality is that Railo and Open BlueDragon are not growing the market for CFML. No one is *switching to* CFML from PHP, .NET, Ruby, or Java because of the OSS engines. To the extent that this might happen, it is an infinitesimally small number of projects. If any of the OSS engines have data to contradict that assertion, I'd love to see it. The OSS engines, particularly Railo, were initially touted as a gateway for people working on other platforms, which is why their partnership with JBoss created such hope and expectation. This has not happened. What *has* happened is that a small but noticeable number of existing ColdFusion users have moved to the OSS engines. As an Adobe Community Professional, I'm privy to more internal information and direct communication with the Adobe employees. The primary drain on the Adobe ColdFusion user base is people moving to one of the OSS CFML engines. Not people leaving for PHP or .NET. People do leave for other platforms, and new people do come in, but that just means that the total size of the CFML community as a whole is fairly static in size. And now that total pie is being divided between CF, Railo, and OBD. I personally like most of the individual people involved in the OSS projects. I've known many of them for years. So this is not personal at all. But if the biggest drain on the ColdFusion user base is coming from the OSS engines, then Adobe is absolutely right to treat them as their top competitors. To NOT do this would be foolish. If the OSS engines were actually pulling in droves of new users from other platforms, this whole dynamic would probably be much different. But that is simply not the case. Brian On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Larry Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: The point being FOSS complements and expands the market for CFML, and by extension Adobe. If anything Adobe should be promoting the FOSS engines as a low cost entry point. That is something it has been criticized about for years. Once the customer realizes how much more is available with the Adobe engine they will make that sale. Its a model that's been followed in quite a few successful operations, such as Zend with PHP and RedHat with Linux and JBoss. In both these cases having an open source entry point has not hurt their bottom line. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341171 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Clustering ColdFusion - some black holes
I agree with Dave on this one: set sticky sessions on the LB, and let each web server stand independently so there are no single failure points. If you need true failover, refactor the apps to use client vars and store them in a database for clean 'session' replication across the web servers. From: Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 9:11 AM To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Clustering ColdFusion - some black holes Goal: One rock stable high performance ColdFusion cluster with session replication and quick failover Is there a specific requirement for session replication? Because you might get generally better results if you just use sticky sessions. That buys you load balancing, but not complete failover - but it may be enough, if your failure rate is acceptably low. I've set up session replication for a couple of clients, and the whole thing just seemed a bit fragile to me. I'd prefer to use a database for session management in this case, I think - which might involve using Client variables instead of Session variables, or might involve custom code to synchronize Session variables with a database. I've seen descriptions where the same cluster (same cluster name) is created on every physical server, and the connector setup is run against localhost, but that doesn't make sense either.. ? Yeah, that doesn't really make sense to me either. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341172 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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Re: cfpdf action=getinfo returns incorrect PDF sizes
Hmm, looking at this more closely, if I 'Get info' on a PDF in the OSX Finder I see the same small dimensions as the ones that CF reports. But the 100% view in Acrobat is clearly the authored size, more or less an A4 page on screen. Maybe this is some specific 'feature' of the PDF format? Stefan On 25 Jan 2011, at 15:51, Stefan Richter wrote: Something seems wonky with cfpdf. I've looked at JPedal for my PDF to image conversion because cfpdf action=thumbnail would produce images that were not at 1:1 scale with the original PDF, instead they were smaller. When I open the PDF in Acrobat at 100% and measure via an on screen ruler I get a width of roughly 690pixels. CF tells me the width is 505. Height is also incorrect by the same ratio. I've now noticed that cfpdf action=getinfo also gives those same (and what I think are wrong) results for the dimensions. Bug? Or is Acrobat showing me the wrong size when I tell it to show me the PDF at 100%? To be fair I think it's CF that's getting it wrong. Anyone else noticed the same? Stefan ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341174 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Clustering ColdFusion - some black holes
I agree also. I should have left that one out of it.. It seems to have hidden the real question which is: what is the 100% correct way to create a cluster as this. Thanks, Helge -Original Message- From: Jason Fisher [mailto:ja...@wanax.com] Subject: Re: Clustering ColdFusion - some black holes I agree with Dave on this one: set sticky sessions on the LB, and let each web server stand independently so there are no single failure points. If you need true failover, refactor the apps to use client vars and store them in a database for clean 'session' replication across the web servers. From: Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 9:11 AM To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Clustering ColdFusion - some black holes Goal: One rock stable high performance ColdFusion cluster with session replication and quick failover Is there a specific requirement for session replication? Because you might get generally better results if you just use sticky sessions. That buys you load balancing, but not complete failover - but it may be enough, if your failure rate is acceptably low. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341175 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Clustering ColdFusion - some black holes
I hope Mike Brunt is still on this list and will jump in on this because he has a lot of experience with clustering JRun and has a lot to say about session replication and other options (basically he agrees with Dave :) My experience with session replication on JRun was that replication could lag and you could get failover to occur without session data being fully replicated so you'd lose data anyway. This is true of most JEE containers (although JRun's session replication does seem a little less robust than some of the others). You may also generate a huge amount of internal network traffic as all session variable updates are replicated to other servers in the cluster. If you grow the cluster, you increase the network traffic as each server has to replicate to every other server - which is why most folks who even go down this path tend to partition the cluster into small, replicating groups with the load balancer set to failover only within a group (unless the whole group goes offline, when it fails over to a new group and you lose sessions). In general, very, very sites have such critical session data that they need to replicate. Everyone seems to think they need it but the reality is that failover is (should be!) rare enough that the number of end users adversely affected on most sites is minuscule and, frankly, if your servers are failing over regularly, you have bigger problems than session loss. One thing that a cluster with failover does buy you is the ability to do rolling deployments across the cluster with zero downtime (depending on how you manage database updates, of course), but even then there are other options, such as using a load balancer that supports session draining on sticky sessions etc (that was how we did it at macromedia.com / adobe.com). Sean On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:10 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: Is there a specific requirement for session replication? Because you might get generally better results if you just use sticky sessions. That buys you load balancing, but not complete failover - but it may be enough, if your failure rate is acceptably low. I've set up session replication for a couple of clients, and the whole thing just seemed a bit fragile to me. I'd prefer to use a database for session management in this case, I think - which might involve using Client variables instead of Session variables, or might involve custom code to synchronize Session variables with a database. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341176 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name
Hi Bobby, I don't have TRUSTED cache enabled either. If you look in the cfclasses directory, are there any class files being written to disk there? If so, clearing the ones that correspond to your complex type CFC's does resolve the problem temporarily. I wish Adobe would fix this one... Brook -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com] Sent: January-25-11 4:19 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name We thought about trying that but yesterday, I noticed that our template caches were all disabled. :-/ .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 9:40 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name As you know Bobby, I have this problem aswell and have never been able to find a workaround. Well, I did but it's the ugliest hack you can think of. Clearing the specific templates out of the template cache manually on a scheduled task. But even with that I am still getting complaints from customers about errors on the webservice. Brook -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com] Sent: January-24-11 3:41 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name I have been experiencing this one in CF8 for a while now: http://cfbugs.adobe.com/cfbugreport/flexbugui/cfbugtracker/main.html?#bugId= 85391 The severity is listed as benign bug, has a workaround. but a workaround isn't mentioned. Manually changing the code when time the error happens so it goes away for a little while is hardly a workaround but that is all I see in the Steps to Reproduce section. Does anyone have any idea about what workaround they could be referring to? .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com http://acoderslife.com/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341177 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name
Doh! I didn't look in there. Guess I had template cache on the brain. I'll check that out now. And yes, I wish this would get fixed! I also wish you could do soemthing like returntype=java:com.soemthing.myclass in a CFC and use java classes as the returntype. I really think if I was able to use the java class that we created instead of the properties.cfc... it would resolve the issue. .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 12:52 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name Hi Bobby, I don't have TRUSTED cache enabled either. If you look in the cfclasses directory, are there any class files being written to disk there? If so, clearing the ones that correspond to your complex type CFC's does resolve the problem temporarily. I wish Adobe would fix this one... Brook -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com] Sent: January-25-11 4:19 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name We thought about trying that but yesterday, I noticed that our template caches were all disabled. :-/ .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 9:40 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name As you know Bobby, I have this problem aswell and have never been able to find a workaround. Well, I did but it's the ugliest hack you can think of. Clearing the specific templates out of the template cache manually on a scheduled task. But even with that I am still getting complaints from customers about errors on the webservice. Brook -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com] Sent: January-24-11 3:41 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name I have been experiencing this one in CF8 for a while now: http://cfbugs.adobe.com/cfbugreport/flexbugui/cfbugtracker/main.html?#bugId= 85391 The severity is listed as benign bug, has a workaround. but a workaround isn't mentioned. Manually changing the code when time the error happens so it goes away for a little while is hardly a workaround but that is all I see in the Steps to Reproduce section. Does anyone have any idea about what workaround they could be referring to? .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com http://acoderslife.com/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341178 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name
I did find some classes in cfclasses that were related to my cfc but clearing the template cache as you mentioned doesn't touch them. Did you put something else together to keep them cleared out of there? I can think of a simple cfexecute command to handle it but... yuck! .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 1:32 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name Doh! I didn't look in there. Guess I had template cache on the brain. I'll check that out now. And yes, I wish this would get fixed! I also wish you could do soemthing like returntype=java:com.soemthing.myclass in a CFC and use java classes as the returntype. I really think if I was able to use the java class that we created instead of the properties.cfc... it would resolve the issue. .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 12:52 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name Hi Bobby, I don't have TRUSTED cache enabled either. If you look in the cfclasses directory, are there any class files being written to disk there? If so, clearing the ones that correspond to your complex type CFC's does resolve the problem temporarily. I wish Adobe would fix this one... Brook -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com] Sent: January-25-11 4:19 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name We thought about trying that but yesterday, I noticed that our template caches were all disabled. :-/ .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 9:40 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name As you know Bobby, I have this problem aswell and have never been able to find a workaround. Well, I did but it's the ugliest hack you can think of. Clearing the specific templates out of the template cache manually on a scheduled task. But even with that I am still getting complaints from customers about errors on the webservice. Brook -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com] Sent: January-24-11 3:41 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name I have been experiencing this one in CF8 for a while now: http://cfbugs.adobe.com/cfbugreport/flexbugui/cfbugtracker/main.html?#bugId= 85391 The severity is listed as benign bug, has a workaround. but a workaround isn't mentioned. Manually changing the code when time the error happens so it goes away for a little while is hardly a workaround but that is all I see in the Steps to Reproduce section. Does anyone have any idea about what workaround they could be referring to? .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com http://acoderslife.com/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341179 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name
Didn't I sent you that code sample that cleans out the relative files? It *does* work for me. Note, it clears out the files from the cfclasses directory, not the cfc-skeletons directory. I can resend that code if you need it. Brooik -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com] Sent: January-25-11 11:12 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name I did find some classes in cfclasses that were related to my cfc but clearing the template cache as you mentioned doesn't touch them. Did you put something else together to keep them cleared out of there? I can think of a simple cfexecute command to handle it but... yuck! .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 1:32 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name Doh! I didn't look in there. Guess I had template cache on the brain. I'll check that out now. And yes, I wish this would get fixed! I also wish you could do soemthing like returntype=java:com.soemthing.myclass in a CFC and use java classes as the returntype. I really think if I was able to use the java class that we created instead of the properties.cfc... it would resolve the issue. .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 12:52 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name Hi Bobby, I don't have TRUSTED cache enabled either. If you look in the cfclasses directory, are there any class files being written to disk there? If so, clearing the ones that correspond to your complex type CFC's does resolve the problem temporarily. I wish Adobe would fix this one... Brook -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com] Sent: January-25-11 4:19 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name We thought about trying that but yesterday, I noticed that our template caches were all disabled. :-/ .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 9:40 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name As you know Bobby, I have this problem aswell and have never been able to find a workaround. Well, I did but it's the ugliest hack you can think of. Clearing the specific templates out of the template cache manually on a scheduled task. But even with that I am still getting complaints from customers about errors on the webservice. Brook -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com] Sent: January-24-11 3:41 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name I have been experiencing this one in CF8 for a while now: http://cfbugs.adobe.com/cfbugreport/flexbugui/cfbugtracker/main.html?#bugId= 85391 The severity is listed as benign bug, has a workaround. but a workaround isn't mentioned. Manually changing the code when time the error happens so it goes away for a little while is hardly a workaround but that is all I see in the Steps to Reproduce section. Does anyone have any idea about what workaround they could be referring to? .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com http://acoderslife.com/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341180 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name
You did send some code you were using to manually clear the trustedCache but all that I noticed it doing was logging in, building a list of files, and passing them to the clearTrustedCache() method of admin.api.runtime Running the clearTrsutedCache() method (or clicking the Clear Template Cache Now button in cfadmin) does not affect the contents of cfclasses for me and I didn't see another method in the API that looked like it would do that. I must be missing something somewhere. Without Trusted Cache enabled in CFAdmin. I wouldn't think admin.api.runtime.clearTrustedCache() would have anything to do. .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 2:39 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name Didn't I sent you that code sample that cleans out the relative files? It *does* work for me. Note, it clears out the files from the cfclasses directory, not the cfc-skeletons directory. I can resend that code if you need it. Brooik -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com] Sent: January-25-11 11:12 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name I did find some classes in cfclasses that were related to my cfc but clearing the template cache as you mentioned doesn't touch them. Did you put something else together to keep them cleared out of there? I can think of a simple cfexecute command to handle it but... yuck! .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 1:32 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name Doh! I didn't look in there. Guess I had template cache on the brain. I'll check that out now. And yes, I wish this would get fixed! I also wish you could do soemthing like returntype=java:com.soemthing.myclass in a CFC and use java classes as the returntype. I really think if I was able to use the java class that we created instead of the properties.cfc... it would resolve the issue. .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 12:52 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name Hi Bobby, I don't have TRUSTED cache enabled either. If you look in the cfclasses directory, are there any class files being written to disk there? If so, clearing the ones that correspond to your complex type CFC's does resolve the problem temporarily. I wish Adobe would fix this one... Brook -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com] Sent: January-25-11 4:19 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name We thought about trying that but yesterday, I noticed that our template caches were all disabled. :-/ .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 9:40 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name As you know Bobby, I have this problem aswell and have never been able to find a workaround. Well, I did but it's the ugliest hack you can think of. Clearing the specific templates out of the template cache manually on a scheduled task. But even with that I am still getting complaints from customers about errors on the webservice. Brook -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com] Sent: January-24-11 3:41 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name I have been experiencing this one in CF8 for a while now: http://cfbugs.adobe.com/cfbugreport/flexbugui/cfbugtracker/main.html?#bugId= 85391 The severity is listed as benign bug, has a workaround. but a workaround isn't mentioned. Manually changing the code when time the error happens so it goes away for a little while is hardly a workaround but that is all I see in the Steps to Reproduce section. Does anyone have any idea about what workaround they could be referring to? .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com http://acoderslife.com/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341181 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe:
Re: Clustering ColdFusion - some black holes
Agreed. Back in the day we did actually need sessions to hold across servers, but we went with the client-vars-in-the-DB to do it. Don't know if AOL still does this, but back in 2004 when many end users (B2C) were still using AOL as their ISP, AOL had a habit of changing a user's IP every 3 or 4 page requests ... which played hell with load balanced e-commerce sites, since the LB treated a new IP as a new session which may or may not get the same server assignment. By linking the session from the browser to the application (via client vars) rather than from the browser to the server (via session vars) we were able to smoothly pass sessions within an application from one server to another without issue. Barring that, though, just for a typical web experience, it's simply not needed. If you could guarantee that users won't have their IPs changed in mid-visit, it would also not be needed. From: Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 12:48 PM To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Clustering ColdFusion - some black holes I hope Mike Brunt is still on this list and will jump in on this because he has a lot of experience with clustering JRun and has a lot to say about session replication and other options (basically he agrees with Dave :) My experience with session replication on JRun was that replication could lag and you could get failover to occur without session data being fully replicated so you'd lose data anyway. This is true of most JEE containers (although JRun's session replication does seem a little less robust than some of the others). You may also generate a huge amount of internal network traffic as all session variable updates are replicated to other servers in the cluster. If you grow the cluster, you increase the network traffic as each server has to replicate to every other server - which is why most folks who even go down this path tend to partition the cluster into small, replicating groups with the load balancer set to failover only within a group (unless the whole group goes offline, when it fails over to a new group and you lose sessions). In general, very, very sites have such critical session data that they need to replicate. Everyone seems to think they need it but the reality is that failover is (should be!) rare enough that the number of end users adversely affected on most sites is minuscule and, frankly, if your servers are failing over regularly, you have bigger problems than session loss. One thing that a cluster with failover does buy you is the ability to do rolling deployments across the cluster with zero downtime (depending on how you manage database updates, of course), but even then there are other options, such as using a load balancer that supports session draining on sticky sessions etc (that was how we did it at macromedia.com / adobe.com). Sean On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:10 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: Is there a specific requirement for session replication? Because you might get generally better results if you just use sticky sessions. That buys you load balancing, but not complete failover - but it may be enough, if your failure rate is acceptably low. I've set up session replication for a couple of clients, and the whole thing just seemed a bit fragile to me. I'd prefer to use a database for session management in this case, I think - which might involve using Client variables instead of Session variables, or might involve custom code to synchronize Session variables with a database. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341182 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Clustering ColdFusion - some black holes
Session replication is a bear and difficult to support. I avoid it when possible. -mark Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG (402) 408-3733 ext 105 Skype: markakruger www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com www.necfug.com -Original Message- From: Helge Hetland [mailto:hetl...@website.no] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 11:29 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Clustering ColdFusion - some black holes I agree also. I should have left that one out of it.. It seems to have hidden the real question which is: what is the 100% correct way to create a cluster as this. Thanks, Helge -Original Message- From: Jason Fisher [mailto:ja...@wanax.com] Subject: Re: Clustering ColdFusion - some black holes I agree with Dave on this one: set sticky sessions on the LB, and let each web server stand independently so there are no single failure points. If you need true failover, refactor the apps to use client vars and store them in a database for clean 'session' replication across the web servers. From: Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 9:11 AM To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Clustering ColdFusion - some black holes Goal: One rock stable high performance ColdFusion cluster with session replication and quick failover Is there a specific requirement for session replication? Because you might get generally better results if you just use sticky sessions. That buys you load balancing, but not complete failover - but it may be enough, if your failure rate is acceptably low. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341183 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Custom Tags, cf_location
Hi, I'm trying to implement custom tags into a website I'm working with, but I'm not having much success with one in particular, cf_location. I'm using the 2.0.1 hosted on Adobe's website. The CF server I'm running is CF7, and I'm using a designated sub directory listed in the coldfusion admin as my custom tags folder. Whenever I try to call cf_location url='blah.cfm' / It automatically redirects to http:/'servername'.com/foo. What am I doing wrong here? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341184 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Why not use cflocation / http://livedocs.adobe.com/coldfusion/7/htmldocs/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp.htm?context=ColdFusion_Documentationfile=0284.htm#wp1100753 On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Eric Vineyard eric.viney...@hotmail.comwrote: Hi, I'm trying to implement custom tags into a website I'm working with, but I'm not having much success with one in particular, cf_location. I'm using the 2.0.1 hosted on Adobe's website. The CF server I'm running is CF7, and I'm using a designated sub directory listed in the coldfusion admin as my custom tags folder. Whenever I try to call cf_location url='blah.cfm' / It automatically redirects to http:/'servername'.com/foo. What am I doing wrong here? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341185 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Why not use cflocation / http://livedocs.adobe. com/coldfusion/7/htmldocs/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp. htm?context=ColdFusion_Documentationfile=0284.htm#wp1100753 On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Eric Vineyard eric.vineyard@hotmail. comwrote: Hi, I'm trying to implement custom tags into a website I'm working with, but I'm not having much success with one in particular, cf_location. I'm using the 2.0.1 hosted on Adobe's website. The CF server I'm running is CF7, and I'm using a designated sub directory listed in the coldfusion admin as my custom tags folder. Whenever I try to call cf_location url='blah.cfm' / It automatically redirects to http:/'servername'.com/foo. What am I doing wrong here? Because the website that I'm working with has thousands of cflocation's. My entire reason for using cf_location was so that I wouldn't have the annoying, and highly unneccessary cftoken in my urls. It's much easier to just simply use a custom tag that defaults to no than to Find and Replace every single tag with addToken=no. I'm also trying to use customtags as somewhat of a learning experience since I've not dealt with them much. I don't really consider myself to be a novice with CF, but I'm also not an expert. I have a different customtag that works perfectly fine, but the cf_location does not. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341186 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Custom Tags, cf_location
What is in the location custom tag? It doesn't sound like it is an issue with the installation of the tag or you would get an error saying it couldn't find it. You also don't happen to have a file called location.cfm in the calling directory (or its' parent directories) do you? If so, maybe it is using that template instead. Just a thought. .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Eric Vineyard [mailto:eric.viney...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 3:45 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location Why not use cflocation / http://livedocs.adobe. com/coldfusion/7/htmldocs/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp. htm?context=ColdFusion_Documentationfile=0284.htm#wp1100753 On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Eric Vineyard eric.vineyard@hotmail. comwrote: Hi, I'm trying to implement custom tags into a website I'm working with, but I'm not having much success with one in particular, cf_location. I'm using the 2.0.1 hosted on Adobe's website. The CF server I'm running is CF7, and I'm using a designated sub directory listed in the coldfusion admin as my custom tags folder. Whenever I try to call cf_location url='blah.cfm' / It automatically redirects to http:/'servername'.com/foo. What am I doing wrong here? Because the website that I'm working with has thousands of cflocation's. My entire reason for using cf_location was so that I wouldn't have the annoying, and highly unneccessary cftoken in my urls. It's much easier to just simply use a custom tag that defaults to no than to Find and Replace every single tag with addToken=no. I'm also trying to use customtags as somewhat of a learning experience since I've not dealt with them much. I don't really consider myself to be a novice with CF, but I'm also not an expert. I have a different customtag that works perfectly fine, but the cf_location does not. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341187 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Custom Tags, cf_location
Then use addToken=false Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Eric Vineyard [mailto:eric.viney...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 7:45 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location Why not use cflocation / http://livedocs.adobe. com/coldfusion/7/htmldocs/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp. htm?context=ColdFusion_Documentationfile=0284.htm#wp1100753 On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Eric Vineyard eric.vineyard@hotmail. comwrote: Hi, I'm trying to implement custom tags into a website I'm working with, but I'm not having much success with one in particular, cf_location. I'm using the 2.0.1 hosted on Adobe's website. The CF server I'm running is CF7, and I'm using a designated sub directory listed in the coldfusion admin as my custom tags folder. Whenever I try to call cf_location url='blah.cfm' / It automatically redirects to http:/'servername'.com/foo. What am I doing wrong here? Because the website that I'm working with has thousands of cflocation's. My entire reason for using cf_location was so that I wouldn't have the annoying, and highly unneccessary cftoken in my urls. It's much easier to just simply use a custom tag that defaults to no than to Find and Replace every single tag with addToken=no. I'm also trying to use customtags as somewhat of a learning experience since I've not dealt with them much. I don't really consider myself to be a novice with CF, but I'm also not an expert. I have a different customtag that works perfectly fine, but the cf_location does not. ~~ ~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion- Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/message.cfm/messageid:341186 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/unsubscribe.cfm ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341188 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name
I know, I thought that aswell. But for me, regardless of if the trusted cache option is on in the cfadmin, it does clear the files from cfclasses and it does temporarily resolve the problem. Its still a big problem though... Brook -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com] Sent: January-25-11 12:13 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name You did send some code you were using to manually clear the trustedCache but all that I noticed it doing was logging in, building a list of files, and passing them to the clearTrustedCache() method of admin.api.runtime Running the clearTrsutedCache() method (or clicking the Clear Template Cache Now button in cfadmin) does not affect the contents of cfclasses for me and I didn't see another method in the API that looked like it would do that. I must be missing something somewhere. Without Trusted Cache enabled in CFAdmin. I wouldn't think admin.api.runtime.clearTrustedCache() would have anything to do. .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 2:39 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name Didn't I sent you that code sample that cleans out the relative files? It *does* work for me. Note, it clears out the files from the cfclasses directory, not the cfc-skeletons directory. I can resend that code if you need it. Brooik -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com] Sent: January-25-11 11:12 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name I did find some classes in cfclasses that were related to my cfc but clearing the template cache as you mentioned doesn't touch them. Did you put something else together to keep them cleared out of there? I can think of a simple cfexecute command to handle it but... yuck! .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 1:32 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name Doh! I didn't look in there. Guess I had template cache on the brain. I'll check that out now. And yes, I wish this would get fixed! I also wish you could do soemthing like returntype=java:com.soemthing.myclass in a CFC and use java classes as the returntype. I really think if I was able to use the java class that we created instead of the properties.cfc... it would resolve the issue. .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 12:52 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name Hi Bobby, I don't have TRUSTED cache enabled either. If you look in the cfclasses directory, are there any class files being written to disk there? If so, clearing the ones that correspond to your complex type CFC's does resolve the problem temporarily. I wish Adobe would fix this one... Brook -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com] Sent: January-25-11 4:19 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name We thought about trying that but yesterday, I noticed that our template caches were all disabled. :-/ .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 9:40 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name As you know Bobby, I have this problem aswell and have never been able to find a workaround. Well, I did but it's the ugliest hack you can think of. Clearing the specific templates out of the template cache manually on a scheduled task. But even with that I am still getting complaints from customers about errors on the webservice. Brook -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com] Sent: January-24-11 3:41 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name I have been experiencing this one in CF8 for a while now: http://cfbugs.adobe.com/cfbugreport/flexbugui/cfbugtracker/main.html?#bugId= 85391 The severity is listed as benign bug, has a workaround. but a workaround isn't mentioned. Manually changing the code when time the error happens so it goes away for a little while is hardly a workaround but that is all I see in the Steps to Reproduce section. Does anyone have any idea about what workaround they could be referring to? .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com http://acoderslife.com/
Bizarre CFDIV problem
Hey folks, I have a weird CFDIV problem. Windows server. CF8. Using many YUI and Google UI components as well as CFDIV. Two domains, each in its own IIS instance and IP number (for SSL reasons) but both go to the same root folder. CFDIV tags work on site1, but not site2. If I add a http header alias so site2 will run in site1's IIS instance and domain name, (ie; http://site2.site1.com instead of http://www.site2.com) the CFDIVs work. I've saved the rendered source code of the same page in both instances and run PrestoSoft's ExamDiff program on the files and the only differences are the client IDs and function init numbers (other than, of course, the absolute URLs for a tag hrefs). All included files are identical. Any thoughts? Mik ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341190 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Check to see if there is another file named CF_Location in the customs tag directory or in the directory your template is in that is calling the tag At 03:34 PM 1/25/2011, you wrote: Hi, I'm trying to implement custom tags into a website I'm working with, but I'm not having much success with one in particular, cf_location. I'm using the 2.0.1 hosted on Adobe's website. The CF server I'm running is CF7, and I'm using a designated sub directory listed in the coldfusion admin as my custom tags folder. Whenever I try to call cf_location url='blah.cfm' / It automatically redirects to http:/'servername'.com/foo. What am I doing wrong here? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341191 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name
Weird, I wonder why it doesn't clear the cfclasses for me... And yes, this is definitely a hacked solution until it gets fixed (if it ever does)... it is still an issue in CF9. .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 4:04 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name I know, I thought that aswell. But for me, regardless of if the trusted cache option is on in the cfadmin, it does clear the files from cfclasses and it does temporarily resolve the problem. Its still a big problem though... Brook -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com] Sent: January-25-11 12:13 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name You did send some code you were using to manually clear the trustedCache but all that I noticed it doing was logging in, building a list of files, and passing them to the clearTrustedCache() method of admin.api.runtime Running the clearTrsutedCache() method (or clicking the Clear Template Cache Now button in cfadmin) does not affect the contents of cfclasses for me and I didn't see another method in the API that looked like it would do that. I must be missing something somewhere. Without Trusted Cache enabled in CFAdmin. I wouldn't think admin.api.runtime.clearTrustedCache() would have anything to do. .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 2:39 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name Didn't I sent you that code sample that cleans out the relative files? It *does* work for me. Note, it clears out the files from the cfclasses directory, not the cfc-skeletons directory. I can resend that code if you need it. Brooik -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com] Sent: January-25-11 11:12 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name I did find some classes in cfclasses that were related to my cfc but clearing the template cache as you mentioned doesn't touch them. Did you put something else together to keep them cleared out of there? I can think of a simple cfexecute command to handle it but... yuck! .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 1:32 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name Doh! I didn't look in there. Guess I had template cache on the brain. I'll check that out now. And yes, I wish this would get fixed! I also wish you could do soemthing like returntype=java:com.soemthing.myclass in a CFC and use java classes as the returntype. I really think if I was able to use the java class that we created instead of the properties.cfc... it would resolve the issue. .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 12:52 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name Hi Bobby, I don't have TRUSTED cache enabled either. If you look in the cfclasses directory, are there any class files being written to disk there? If so, clearing the ones that correspond to your complex type CFC's does resolve the problem temporarily. I wish Adobe would fix this one... Brook -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com] Sent: January-25-11 4:19 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name We thought about trying that but yesterday, I noticed that our template caches were all disabled. :-/ .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 9:40 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name As you know Bobby, I have this problem aswell and have never been able to find a workaround. Well, I did but it's the ugliest hack you can think of. Clearing the specific templates out of the template cache manually on a scheduled task. But even with that I am still getting complaints from customers about errors on the webservice. Brook -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com] Sent: January-24-11 3:41 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Linkage Error - attempted duplicate class definition for name I have been experiencing this one in CF8 for a while now: http://cfbugs.adobe.com/cfbugreport/flexbugui/cfbugtracker/main.html?#bugId=
Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
um... then why not use: cflocation addtoken=no / addtoken=no doesn't add the unnecessary cftoken Because the website that I'm working with has thousands of cflocation's. My entire reason for using cf_location was so that I wouldn't have the annoying, and highly unneccessary cftoken in my urls. It's much easier to just simply use a custom tag that defaults to no than to Find and Replace every single tag with addToken=no. I'm also trying to use customtags as somewhat of a learning experience since I've not dealt with them much. I don't really consider myself to be a novice with CF, but I'm also not an expert. I have a different customtag that works perfectly fine, but the cf_location does not. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341193 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Custom Tags, cf_location
You don't want to have to find and replace all cflocation tags to add the addtoken attribute, but you are willing to find and reaplace cflocation with cf_location? Seems like the same amount of work to me. .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Eric Vineyard [mailto:eric.viney...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 3:45 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location Why not use cflocation / http://livedocs.adobe. com/coldfusion/7/htmldocs/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp. htm?context=ColdFusion_Documentationfile=0284.htm#wp1100753 On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Eric Vineyard eric.vineyard@hotmail. comwrote: Hi, I'm trying to implement custom tags into a website I'm working with, but I'm not having much success with one in particular, cf_location. I'm using the 2.0.1 hosted on Adobe's website. The CF server I'm running is CF7, and I'm using a designated sub directory listed in the coldfusion admin as my custom tags folder. Whenever I try to call cf_location url='blah.cfm' / It automatically redirects to http:/'servername'.com/foo. What am I doing wrong here? Because the website that I'm working with has thousands of cflocation's. My entire reason for using cf_location was so that I wouldn't have the annoying, and highly unneccessary cftoken in my urls. It's much easier to just simply use a custom tag that defaults to no than to Find and Replace every single tag with addToken=no. I'm also trying to use customtags as somewhat of a learning experience since I've not dealt with them much. I don't really consider myself to be a novice with CF, but I'm also not an expert. I have a different customtag that works perfectly fine, but the cf_location does not. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341194 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Bizarre CFDIV problem
Two domains, each in its own IIS instance and IP number (for SSL reasons) but both go to the same root folder. CFDIV tags work on site1, but not site2. You need two virtual directories, to resolve /CFIDE. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341195 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Bizarre CFDIV problem
Sounds like a discrepancy in the web server config between the sites. If you have firebug, I would imagine it will report issues finding some of the needed files you see in the source. .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Michael Muller [mailto:ad...@montaguema.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 3:58 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Bizarre CFDIV problem Hey folks, I have a weird CFDIV problem. Windows server. CF8. Using many YUI and Google UI components as well as CFDIV. Two domains, each in its own IIS instance and IP number (for SSL reasons) but both go to the same root folder. CFDIV tags work on site1, but not site2. If I add a http header alias so site2 will run in site1's IIS instance and domain name, (ie; http://site2.site1.com instead of http://www.site2.com) the CFDIVs work. I've saved the rendered source code of the same page in both instances and run PrestoSoft's ExamDiff program on the files and the only differences are the client IDs and function init numbers (other than, of course, the absolute URLs for a tag hrefs). All included files are identical. Any thoughts? Mik ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341196 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
It's much easier to just simply use a custom tag that defaults to no than to Find and Replace every single tag with addToken=no. It's not more difficult to replace all occurrences of 'CFLOCATION' by 'CFLOCATION addToken=no' than by 'CF_LOCATION' ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341197 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help needed with jpedal java integration
You're welcome :o) Mark On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 1:25 AM, Stefan Richter ste...@flashcomguru.comwrote: Works. A. treat. Thank you, and thanks Mark Mandel. Stefan On 24 Jan 2011, at 14:42, Leigh wrote: But the fact that the two jars seem to conflict with one another throws a real spanner into the works... Is there any way I could separate them and have both present in CF? Try using the javaLoader http://javaloader.riaforge.org/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341198 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Coldfusion 9 install on Mac OS
total newbie! I've installed Coldfusion 9 in my iMac, ColdFusionLauncher indicates that it is running. I've create a very simple Hello html with CF tags and a #variable#, but the output does not evaluate the variable, it just prints out #variable#. I'm taking an on-line course the briefly covers Coldfusion, but I can't get any of the sample exercises to work. Did I miss setting up something in the install? Should html and cfm files be in a specific folder? I've run Apache and PHP on localhost without any problems. I just feel like I'm missing one little step. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341199 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Clustering ColdFusion - some black holes
Will do, I'll never try to setup session replication again, I'll never try to setup session replication agai... :) But, the below described procedure - it's 100% accurate for setting up a cluster? (not ticking of the replicate sessions this time.. :)) -- JRun instances All new CF instances is created from the default CFusion instance which is shut down and never used after the setup is done (same goes with JRun Admin Instance) Internal webserver on every CF instance is active with separate port addresses and separate instance names (8300 for admin, 8301 for instance one cfusion1, 8302 for instance two cfusion2, 8303 for instance 3 cfusion3 on physical server #2 etc.) Every CF instance have the remote port (JNDI port) set unique (both server wide and cluster wide) Clustering setup On one server (CFadmin / Instance manager) all remote instances is registered On the same server one cluster is created with round robin / sticky sessions / and replicate sessions set All instances is added to the clusters (for example 6 instances on 3 physical servers on the same subnet) (After this the servers is physically restarted) Connector setup On every physical server the Web Server Configuration Tool is run On every physical server the IIS webserver is configured with this settings: JRun Host: [The server where cluster was created initially] JRun Server: [The cluster name] All IIS websites (The server has multiple websites, hundreds) Configure web server for cf 7/8/9 apps - Regards, Helge -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger [mailto:mkru...@cfwebtools.com] Sent: 25. januar 2011 21:39 To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Clustering ColdFusion - some black holes Session replication is a bear and difficult to support. I avoid it when possible. -mark Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG (402) 408-3733 ext 105 Skype: markakruger www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com www.necfug.com -Original Message- From: Helge Hetland [mailto:hetl...@website.no] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 11:29 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Clustering ColdFusion - some black holes I agree also. I should have left that one out of it.. It seems to have hidden the real question which is: what is the 100% correct way to create a cluster as this. Thanks, Helge -Original Message- From: Jason Fisher [mailto:ja...@wanax.com] Subject: Re: Clustering ColdFusion - some black holes I agree with Dave on this one: set sticky sessions on the LB, and let each web server stand independently so there are no single failure points. If you need true failover, refactor the apps to use client vars and store them in a database for clean 'session' replication across the web servers. From: Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 9:11 AM To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Clustering ColdFusion - some black holes Goal: One rock stable high performance ColdFusion cluster with session replication and quick failover Is there a specific requirement for session replication? Because you might get generally better results if you just use sticky sessions. That buys you load balancing, but not complete failover - but it may be enough, if your failure rate is acceptably low. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341200 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Coldfusion 9 install on Mac OS
Please post the code you are trying to run - this will help us determine if there is a code or setup issue. Thank You, Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator Wil Genovese Consulting wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Jan 25, 2011, at 4:05 PM, Fred Weaver wrote: total newbie! I've installed Coldfusion 9 in my iMac, ColdFusionLauncher indicates that it is running. I've create a very simple Hello html with CF tags and a #variable#, but the output does not evaluate the variable, it just prints out #variable#. I'm taking an on-line course the briefly covers Coldfusion, but I can't get any of the sample exercises to work. Did I miss setting up something in the install? Should html and cfm files be in a specific folder? I've run Apache and PHP on localhost without any problems. I just feel like I'm missing one little step. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341201 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Coldfusion 9 install on Mac OS
Couple things: - make sure the page has a .cfm extension - make sure you have cfoutput tags around the variable If you have both those things, then further code example/environment setup information is necessary. -- Josh On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Fred Weaver f...@fredweaver.biz wrote: total newbie! I've installed Coldfusion 9 in my iMac, ColdFusionLauncher indicates that it is running. I've create a very simple Hello html with CF tags and a #variable#, but the output does not evaluate the variable, it just prints out #variable#. I'm taking an on-line course the briefly covers Coldfusion, but I can't get any of the sample exercises to work. Did I miss setting up something in the install? Should html and cfm files be in a specific folder? I've run Apache and PHP on localhost without any problems. I just feel like I'm missing one little step. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341202 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Custom Tags, cf_location
And people wonder why ColdFusion gets a bad name!! Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341203 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
...because noobs aren't yet find-and-replace ninjas? Doubt it. On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote: And people wonder why ColdFusion gets a bad name!! Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341204 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Custom Tags, cf_location
Yet he planned to replace all cflocation with cf_location, didn't he? Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 10:41 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location ...because noobs aren't yet find-and-replace ninjas? Doubt it. On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote: And people wonder why ColdFusion gets a bad name!! Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ ~~ ~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion- Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/message.cfm/messageid:341204 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/unsubscribe.cfm ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341205 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Don't you just love how developers like Bobby and Andrew assume everybody should follow the expert way. Its developers like this that give Coldfusion the bad name. Yet he planned to replace all cflocation with cf_location, didn't he? Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341206 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Custom Tags, cf_location
It has nothing to do with being expert or not, but common sense. Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Michael Firth [mailto:mfsqlser...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 10:38 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location Don't you just love how developers like Bobby and Andrew assume everybody should follow the expert way. Its developers like this that give Coldfusion the bad name. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341207 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Yes. My point: surely noobs ask noob-y questions on all web app dev lang boards since the beginning of web app dev lang boards. Regardless of quantity my web app dev lang is dying FUD. We'll be judged by how we treat our noobs. :-) On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote: Yet he planned to replace all cflocation with cf_location, didn't he? Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 10:41 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location ...because noobs aren't yet find-and-replace ninjas? Doubt it. On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote: And people wonder why ColdFusion gets a bad name!! Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ ~~ ~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion- Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/message.cfm/messageid:341204 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/unsubscribe.cfm ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341208 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Its amazing how fast the experts forget they were beginners at one time. It has everything with being a so called expert. You could have just answered his question in a more professional manner. On Jan 25, 2011, at 6:46 PM, Andrew Scott wrote: It has nothing to do with being expert or not, but common sense. Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Michael Firth [mailto:mfsqlser...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 10:38 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location Don't you just love how developers like Bobby and Andrew assume everybody should follow the expert way. Its developers like this that give Coldfusion the bad name. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341209 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Agreed. I can't believe how many of these so called experts are on here claiming to be helping people, but they are probably themselves the most worthless coders you will ever find. You know sometimes one has to be humble to see the light. On Jan 25, 2011, at 6:48 PM, John M Bliss wrote: Yes. My point: surely noobs ask noob-y questions on all web app dev lang boards since the beginning of web app dev lang boards. Regardless of quantity my web app dev lang is dying FUD. We'll be judged by how we treat our noobs. :-) On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote: Yet he planned to replace all cflocation with cf_location, didn't he? Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 10:41 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location ...because noobs aren't yet find-and-replace ninjas? Doubt it. On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote: And people wonder why ColdFusion gets a bad name!! Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ ~~ ~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion- Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/message.cfm/messageid:341204 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/unsubscribe.cfm ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341210 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Custom Tags, cf_location
I actually did answer it, if you look hard enough. Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Michael Firth [mailto:mfsqlser...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 10:49 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location Its amazing how fast the experts forget they were beginners at one time. It has everything with being a so called expert. You could have just answered his question in a more professional manner. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341211 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Your not just getting it. The sad part is you never will. Sure you answered it, but takes a while for a person to see that after all the other stuff lol. On Jan 25, 2011, at 6:51 PM, Andrew Scott wrote: I actually did answer it, if you look hard enough. Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Michael Firth [mailto:mfsqlser...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 10:49 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location Its amazing how fast the experts forget they were beginners at one time. It has everything with being a so called expert. You could have just answered his question in a more professional manner. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341212 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Not exactly. OP wrote, ...It's much easier to just simply use a custom tag that defaults to no than to Find and Replace every single tag with addToken=no... (AKA, the crux of his problem/misunderstanding.) You replied, Then use addToken=false That fails to address OP's question. Instead, it begs his question... On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote: I actually did answer it, if you look hard enough. Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Michael Firth [mailto:mfsqlser...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 10:49 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location Its amazing how fast the experts forget they were beginners at one time. It has everything with being a so called expert. You could have just answered his question in a more professional manner. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341213 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Good point. See I even learned from this. You don't have to be a noob to actually learn or refresh the mind once in a while. On Jan 25, 2011, at 7:02 PM, John M Bliss wrote: Not exactly. OP wrote, ...It's much easier to just simply use a custom tag that defaults to no than to Find and Replace every single tag with addToken=no... (AKA, the crux of his problem/misunderstanding.) You replied, Then use addToken=false That fails to address OP's question. Instead, it begs his question... On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote: I actually did answer it, if you look hard enough. Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Michael Firth [mailto:mfsqlser...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 10:49 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location Its amazing how fast the experts forget they were beginners at one time. It has everything with being a so called expert. You could have just answered his question in a more professional manner. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341214 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Custom Tags, cf_location
Ok Michael seeing as you are being the way you are. My comment had a double meaning behind it, and the point is that if this guy is thinking in this manner I would actually hate to see what the rest of the Application is like. It is a known fact that if that guy ever leaves, a new guy will come in and more likely go to his boss and say this guy didn't know what he was doing, then he will turn around and say why are you using a language that is not a serious language. And to be honest, that was what I was thinking. I thought it more polite to just come out with a double meaning, and now that you have pushed the subject I think it best to actually come out and say it. As for the original poster, I am curious how you think that by writing a custom tag, and then replace that with all the cflocations is actually easier, than just adding the addtoken=false in the code? Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Michael Firth [mailto:mfsqlser...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 10:56 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location Your not just getting it. The sad part is you never will. Sure you answered it, but takes a while for a person to see that after all the other stuff lol. On Jan 25, 2011, at 6:51 PM, Andrew Scott wrote: I actually did answer it, if you look hard enough. Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Michael Firth [mailto:mfsqlser...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 10:49 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location Its amazing how fast the experts forget they were beginners at one time. It has everything with being a so called expert. You could have just answered his question in a more professional manner. ~~ ~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion- Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/message.cfm/messageid:341212 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/unsubscribe.cfm ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341215 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
The problem with us experts sometimes is that we do forget the daft things that noobs do and common sense comes with experience. However what does get my goat is an unwillingness to RTFM or google search. There is a HUGE resource of documentation and tutorials out there, and sometimes no matter how many times you point someone at it, they wont put that little bit of effort in and you have to do it for them. Not that i'm saying that is the case here, just saying :-) So for any noobs reading , here are some of the top resources to find CF help, docs, tutorials, advice, etc. www.cfsearch.com www.cfquickdocs.com www.coldfusiondocs.com www.easycfm.com www.cfmldeveloper.com http://www.carehart.org/cf411/ http://www.adobe.com/support/coldfusion/ -- Russ Michaels www.bluethunderinternet.com : Business hosting services solutions www.cfmldeveloper.com: ColdFusion developer community www.michaels.me.uk : my blog www.cfsearch.com : ColdFusion search engine ** *skype me* : russmichaels ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341216 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Despite Andrews lack of partience he is however correct. Replacing cflocation with cflocation addtoken=false would be much better and is of course almost as easy to do.If the URL is different in every cflocation then a REGEX will be required, bit there are some regex gurus on here who can help with that. A workaround is gr8 if you don't know any better way to do it, or if it is a significant time, but not really an ideal solution when you have the best one handed to you on a plate. Russ On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:10 AM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: The problem with us experts sometimes is that we do forget the daft things that noobs do and common sense comes with experience. However what does get my goat is an unwillingness to RTFM or google search. There is a HUGE resource of documentation and tutorials out there, and sometimes no matter how many times you point someone at it, they wont put that little bit of effort in and you have to do it for them. Not that i'm saying that is the case here, just saying :-) So for any noobs reading , here are some of the top resources to find CF help, docs, tutorials, advice, etc. www.cfsearch.com www.cfquickdocs.com www.coldfusiondocs.com www.easycfm.com www.cfmldeveloper.com http://www.carehart.org/cf411/ http://www.adobe.com/support/coldfusion/ -- Russ Michaels www.bluethunderinternet.com : Business hosting services solutions www.cfmldeveloper.com: ColdFusion developer community www.michaels.me.uk : my blog www.cfsearch.com : ColdFusion search engine ** *skype me* : russmichaels -- -- Russ Michaels www.bluethunderinternet.com : Business hosting services solutions www.cfmldeveloper.com: ColdFusion developer community www.michaels.me.uk : my blog www.cfsearch.com : ColdFusion search engine ** *skype me* : russmichaels ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341217 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Gotta say Andrew and Russ you two take the cake. Who cares now if your right? All meaning has been lost. Caution to anybody that is new to ColdFusion. You will sometimes encounter developers who give double meaning and treat you with a lack of respect. Arrogance. Complete Egos at work here. On Jan 25, 2011, at 7:10 PM, Russ Michaels wrote: The problem with us experts sometimes is that we do forget the daft things that noobs do and common sense comes with experience. However what does get my goat is an unwillingness to RTFM or google search. There is a HUGE resource of documentation and tutorials out there, and sometimes no matter how many times you point someone at it, they wont put that little bit of effort in and you have to do it for them. Not that i'm saying that is the case here, just saying :-) So for any noobs reading , here are some of the top resources to find CF help, docs, tutorials, advice, etc. www.cfsearch.com www.cfquickdocs.com www.coldfusiondocs.com www.easycfm.com www.cfmldeveloper.com http://www.carehart.org/cf411/ http://www.adobe.com/support/coldfusion/ -- Russ Michaels www.bluethunderinternet.com : Business hosting services solutions www.cfmldeveloper.com: ColdFusion developer community www.michaels.me.uk : my blog www.cfsearch.com : ColdFusion search engine ** *skype me* : russmichaels ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341218 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Custom Tags, cf_location
Michael, I will say it again it has nothing to do with being a noob or even an expert. It boils down to common sense, we have a guy at work who has never programmed in his life, and he has been in the role for about 6 months. But the moment he started, he showed a lot of common sense in his approach, and that is all it is and nothing more. Btw if you read the guys comment, he also clearly stated he is no noob as well, or did you not read that? Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Michael Firth [mailto:mfsqlser...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 11:19 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location Gotta say Andrew and Russ you two take the cake. Who cares now if your right? All meaning has been lost. Caution to anybody that is new to ColdFusion. You will sometimes encounter developers who give double meaning and treat you with a lack of respect. Arrogance. Complete Egos at work here. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341219 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
I follow. I'm an expert (14 or so years) and I like to think I Google first and ask questions later. Having said that, cf-talk is (generally) comprised of people with such a high D-18 roll of: - intelligence - wisdom - charisma ...that it's easy to understand why people of all experience levels turn to us for guidance / opinions / etc. When they ask questions whose answers are easily Googled, let's reply with: - helpful URL - helpful Google search string ...or similar. Or not at all, I suppose. On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: The problem with us experts sometimes is that we do forget the daft things that noobs do and common sense comes with experience. However what does get my goat is an unwillingness to RTFM or google search. There is a HUGE resource of documentation and tutorials out there, and sometimes no matter how many times you point someone at it, they wont put that little bit of effort in and you have to do it for them. Not that i'm saying that is the case here, just saying :-) So for any noobs reading , here are some of the top resources to find CF help, docs, tutorials, advice, etc. www.cfsearch.com www.cfquickdocs.com www.coldfusiondocs.com www.easycfm.com www.cfmldeveloper.com http://www.carehart.org/cf411/ http://www.adobe.com/support/coldfusion/ -- Russ Michaels www.bluethunderinternet.com : Business hosting services solutions www.cfmldeveloper.com: ColdFusion developer community www.michaels.me.uk : my blog www.cfsearch.com : ColdFusion search engine ** *skype me* : russmichaels ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341220 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Your not just getting it and I don't think you every will. You come off as sounding like a jerk plain and simple, so who cares if your right. On Jan 25, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Andrew Scott wrote: Michael, I will say it again it has nothing to do with being a noob or even an expert. It boils down to common sense, we have a guy at work who has never programmed in his life, and he has been in the role for about 6 months. But the moment he started, he showed a lot of common sense in his approach, and that is all it is and nothing more. Btw if you read the guys comment, he also clearly stated he is no noob as well, or did you not read that? Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Michael Firth [mailto:mfsqlser...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 11:19 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location Gotta say Andrew and Russ you two take the cake. Who cares now if your right? All meaning has been lost. Caution to anybody that is new to ColdFusion. You will sometimes encounter developers who give double meaning and treat you with a lack of respect. Arrogance. Complete Egos at work here. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341221 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
John, You hit it right on the button. I would dare say your the true expert here. Mike On Jan 25, 2011, at 7:23 PM, John M Bliss wrote: I follow. I'm an expert (14 or so years) and I like to think I Google first and ask questions later. Having said that, cf-talk is (generally) comprised of people with such a high D-18 roll of: - intelligence - wisdom - charisma ...that it's easy to understand why people of all experience levels turn to us for guidance / opinions / etc. When they ask questions whose answers are easily Googled, let's reply with: - helpful URL - helpful Google search string ...or similar. Or not at all, I suppose. On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: The problem with us experts sometimes is that we do forget the daft things that noobs do and common sense comes with experience. However what does get my goat is an unwillingness to RTFM or google search. There is a HUGE resource of documentation and tutorials out there, and sometimes no matter how many times you point someone at it, they wont put that little bit of effort in and you have to do it for them. Not that i'm saying that is the case here, just saying :-) So for any noobs reading , here are some of the top resources to find CF help, docs, tutorials, advice, etc. www.cfsearch.com www.cfquickdocs.com www.coldfusiondocs.com www.easycfm.com www.cfmldeveloper.com http://www.carehart.org/cf411/ http://www.adobe.com/support/coldfusion/ -- Russ Michaels www.bluethunderinternet.com : Business hosting services solutions www.cfmldeveloper.com: ColdFusion developer community www.michaels.me.uk : my blog www.cfsearch.com : ColdFusion search engine ** *skype me* : russmichaels ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341222 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Btw if you read the guys comment, he also clearly stated he is no noob aswell, or did you not read that? He wrote, I don't really consider myself to be a novice with CF, but I'm also not an expert. Based on that statement and the nature of his question, I had him estimated at a 3 on the noob - to - expert 10-point scale. On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote: Michael, I will say it again it has nothing to do with being a noob or even an expert. It boils down to common sense, we have a guy at work who has never programmed in his life, and he has been in the role for about 6 months. But the moment he started, he showed a lot of common sense in his approach, and that is all it is and nothing more. Btw if you read the guys comment, he also clearly stated he is no noob as well, or did you not read that? Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Michael Firth [mailto:mfsqlser...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 11:19 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location Gotta say Andrew and Russ you two take the cake. Who cares now if your right? All meaning has been lost. Caution to anybody that is new to ColdFusion. You will sometimes encounter developers who give double meaning and treat you with a lack of respect. Arrogance. Complete Egos at work here. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341223 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Is it Possible: CFPDF or PDFs
Hi folks - I am scouring the web trying to find examples or a discussion on whether or not Coldfusion 9 can actually write to an existing PDF. I have a pre-made PDF form, and I just want to write data to different cells. I have Acrobat so I can define the text boxes, but now I am trying to figure out how to actually place the details. Is it Possible to do this? Thanks, Doug ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341224 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
My thoughts exactly. Figured maybe I was missing something. lol Yet he planned to replace all cflocation with cf_location, didn't he? Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341225 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Oh come now Michael. That's not the least bit fair. Most of us experts are extremely helpful. In fact I'd say pound for pound we're some of the most helpful. True Andrew was a little off the cuff, but I think he's right in his jaded comments. Five taggers really haven't done much for the credibility of our chosen language, so it's fairly understandable why he might feel entitled to a few pot shots. It's clear from this, and your delluge of cf-jobs posts, that you've had a poor experience with CF experts. But don't let your own personal axe grinding taint your opinion of the community as a whole. We're a pretty good lot. (Yeah, I said 'taint.' It made laugh too.) On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.comwrote: Agreed. I can't believe how many of these so called experts are on here claiming to be helping people, but they are probably themselves the most worthless coders you will ever find. You know sometimes one has to be humble to see the light. On Jan 25, 2011, at 6:48 PM, John M Bliss wrote: Yes. My point: surely noobs ask noob-y questions on all web app dev lang boards since the beginning of web app dev lang boards. Regardless of quantity my web app dev lang is dying FUD. We'll be judged by how we treat our noobs. :-) On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Yet he planned to replace all cflocation with cf_location, didn't he? Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 10:41 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location ...because noobs aren't yet find-and-replace ninjas? Doubt it. On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote: And people wonder why ColdFusion gets a bad name!! Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ ~~ ~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion- Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/message.cfm/messageid:341204 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/unsubscribe.cfm ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341226 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Custom Tags, cf_location
Yeah maybe. The one thing I will add here, and even us experts tend to do it as well, but common sense does eventually kick in. And that is that we all tend to over complicate the problem. Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 11:27 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location Btw if you read the guys comment, he also clearly stated he is no noob aswell, or did you not read that? He wrote, I don't really consider myself to be a novice with CF, but I'm also not an expert. Based on that statement and the nature of his question, I had him estimated at a 3 on the noob - to - expert 10-point scale. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341227 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Good God! Having flashbacks from high school with this thread! LOL Your not just getting it and I don't think you every will. You come off as sounding like a jerk plain and simple, so who cares if your right. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341228 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
+1 for the rpg reference... nerd. On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 7:23 PM, John M Bliss bliss.j...@gmail.com wrote: I follow. I'm an expert (14 or so years) and I like to think I Google first and ask questions later. Having said that, cf-talk is (generally) comprised of people with such a high D-18 roll of: - intelligence - wisdom - charisma ...that it's easy to understand why people of all experience levels turn to us for guidance / opinions / etc. When they ask questions whose answers are easily Googled, let's reply with: - helpful URL - helpful Google search string ...or similar. Or not at all, I suppose. On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: The problem with us experts sometimes is that we do forget the daft things that noobs do and common sense comes with experience. However what does get my goat is an unwillingness to RTFM or google search. There is a HUGE resource of documentation and tutorials out there, and sometimes no matter how many times you point someone at it, they wont put that little bit of effort in and you have to do it for them. Not that i'm saying that is the case here, just saying :-) So for any noobs reading , here are some of the top resources to find CF help, docs, tutorials, advice, etc. www.cfsearch.com www.cfquickdocs.com www.coldfusiondocs.com www.easycfm.com www.cfmldeveloper.com http://www.carehart.org/cf411/ http://www.adobe.com/support/coldfusion/ -- Russ Michaels www.bluethunderinternet.com : Business hosting services solutions www.cfmldeveloper.com: ColdFusion developer community www.michaels.me.uk : my blog www.cfsearch.com : ColdFusion search engine ** *skype me* : russmichaels ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341229 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
STOP THE INSANITY - the horse is dead quit whipping it.. PLEASE!! Wil Genovese One man with courage makes a majority. -Andrew Jackson A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. On Jan 25, 2011, at 6:33 PM, Michael Grant wrote: +1 for the rpg reference... nerd. On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 7:23 PM, John M Bliss bliss.j...@gmail.com wrote: I follow. I'm an expert (14 or so years) and I like to think I Google first and ask questions later. Having said that, cf-talk is (generally) comprised of people with such a high D-18 roll of: - intelligence - wisdom - charisma ...that it's easy to understand why people of all experience levels turn to us for guidance / opinions / etc. When they ask questions whose answers are easily Googled, let's reply with: - helpful URL - helpful Google search string ...or similar. Or not at all, I suppose. On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: The problem with us experts sometimes is that we do forget the daft things that noobs do and common sense comes with experience. However what does get my goat is an unwillingness to RTFM or google search. There is a HUGE resource of documentation and tutorials out there, and sometimes no matter how many times you point someone at it, they wont put that little bit of effort in and you have to do it for them. Not that i'm saying that is the case here, just saying :-) So for any noobs reading , here are some of the top resources to find CF help, docs, tutorials, advice, etc. www.cfsearch.com www.cfquickdocs.com www.coldfusiondocs.com www.easycfm.com www.cfmldeveloper.com http://www.carehart.org/cf411/ http://www.adobe.com/support/coldfusion/ -- Russ Michaels www.bluethunderinternet.com : Business hosting services solutions www.cfmldeveloper.com: ColdFusion developer community www.michaels.me.uk : my blog www.cfsearch.com : ColdFusion search engine ** *skype me* : russmichaels ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341230 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Coldfusion webroot and multiple domain names
You'll want to create an alias to the images folder between sites. What web server are you using? Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint! - Reply message - From: fun and learning funandlrnn...@gmail.com Date: Mon, Jan 24, 2011 20:02 Subject: Coldfusion webroot and multiple domain names To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Hi All - I am new to this multiple domain thing. Am working on a project, where there multiple domain projects under on webroot. Like www.abc.com, www. def.com under one root. The folder structure is something like below: E: webroot --INCLUDES --IMAGES --image.gif -- www.abc.com --folder1 --index.cfm -- www.def.com So the above two diff domains share two common folders. When I use an include file of form .cfm, I can get it to work. But somehow the images are not displayed. I tried the following syntaxes Suppose I want to access images from index.cfm under www.abc. com/folder1, i tried the following: img src=../../IMAGES/image.gif(does not work) img src=E:/webroot/IMAGES/image.gif) (also does not work. The image symbol is shown but the entire image is not shown). Any thoughts on how to get this working? Hi All- Thanks for replying.The client said that using one IP address, several domain names can be used- multiple sites using host header names. I am not sure what that means ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341231 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
nerd. Guilty. :-) On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Michael Grant mgr...@modus.bz wrote: +1 for the rpg reference... nerd. On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 7:23 PM, John M Bliss bliss.j...@gmail.com wrote: I follow. I'm an expert (14 or so years) and I like to think I Google first and ask questions later. Having said that, cf-talk is (generally) comprised of people with such a high D-18 roll of: - intelligence - wisdom - charisma ...that it's easy to understand why people of all experience levels turn to us for guidance / opinions / etc. When they ask questions whose answers are easily Googled, let's reply with: - helpful URL - helpful Google search string ...or similar. Or not at all, I suppose. On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: The problem with us experts sometimes is that we do forget the daft things that noobs do and common sense comes with experience. However what does get my goat is an unwillingness to RTFM or google search. There is a HUGE resource of documentation and tutorials out there, and sometimes no matter how many times you point someone at it, they wont put that little bit of effort in and you have to do it for them. Not that i'm saying that is the case here, just saying :-) So for any noobs reading , here are some of the top resources to find CF help, docs, tutorials, advice, etc. www.cfsearch.com www.cfquickdocs.com www.coldfusiondocs.com www.easycfm.com www.cfmldeveloper.com http://www.carehart.org/cf411/ http://www.adobe.com/support/coldfusion/ -- Russ Michaels www.bluethunderinternet.com : Business hosting services solutions www.cfmldeveloper.com: ColdFusion developer community www.michaels.me.uk : my blog www.cfsearch.com : ColdFusion search engine ** *skype me* : russmichaels ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341232 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Is it Possible: CFPDF or PDFs
I'm reply to my own post. It looks like CFPDFFORM will be the answer. I will investigate this and see what I come up with. Doug ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341233 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Really? I don't exactly see any of you encouraging people to learn the language. Instead you berate them with your very arrogance and in fact does more damage than help. Also, my posts have nothing to do with this, even though a few of these very same posters have used their professional emails to attack me. Not exactly setting an example are you? On Jan 25, 2011, at 7:30 PM, Michael Grant wrote: Oh come now Michael. That's not the least bit fair. Most of us experts are extremely helpful. In fact I'd say pound for pound we're some of the most helpful. True Andrew was a little off the cuff, but I think he's right in his jaded comments. Five taggers really haven't done much for the credibility of our chosen language, so it's fairly understandable why he might feel entitled to a few pot shots. It's clear from this, and your delluge of cf-jobs posts, that you've had a poor experience with CF experts. But don't let your own personal axe grinding taint your opinion of the community as a whole. We're a pretty good lot. (Yeah, I said 'taint.' It made laugh too.) On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.comwrote: Agreed. I can't believe how many of these so called experts are on here claiming to be helping people, but they are probably themselves the most worthless coders you will ever find. You know sometimes one has to be humble to see the light. On Jan 25, 2011, at 6:48 PM, John M Bliss wrote: Yes. My point: surely noobs ask noob-y questions on all web app dev lang boards since the beginning of web app dev lang boards. Regardless of quantity my web app dev lang is dying FUD. We'll be judged by how we treat our noobs. :-) On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Yet he planned to replace all cflocation with cf_location, didn't he? Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 10:41 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location ...because noobs aren't yet find-and-replace ninjas? Doubt it. On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote: And people wonder why ColdFusion gets a bad name!! Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ ~~ ~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion- Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/message.cfm/messageid:341204 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/unsubscribe.cfm ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341234 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Is it Possible: CFPDF or PDFs
You can also look into DDX as that has a lot more power than the standard PDF tags does. Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Doug Ford [mailto:doug.e.f...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 11:37 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Is it Possible: CFPDF or PDFs I'm reply to my own post. It looks like CFPDFFORM will be the answer. I will investigate this and see what I come up with. Doug ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341235 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Is it Possible: CFPDF or PDFs
now was that so hard? On Jan 25, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Andrew Scott wrote: You can also look into DDX as that has a lot more power than the standard PDF tags does. Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Doug Ford [mailto:doug.e.f...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 11:37 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Is it Possible: CFPDF or PDFs I'm reply to my own post. It looks like CFPDFFORM will be the answer. I will investigate this and see what I come up with. Doug ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341236 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Is it Possible: CFPDF or PDFs
You don't need to 'scour the web' to find that answer, just read the docs. The answer is yes, you can use CF to populate a PDF form. http://www.cfquickdocs.com/cf8/#cfpdfform Brook -Original Message- From: Doug Ford [mailto:doug.e.f...@gmail.com] Sent: January-25-11 4:21 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Is it Possible: CFPDF or PDFs Hi folks - I am scouring the web trying to find examples or a discussion on whether or not Coldfusion 9 can actually write to an existing PDF. I have a pre-made PDF form, and I just want to write data to different cells. I have Acrobat so I can define the text boxes, but now I am trying to figure out how to actually place the details. Is it Possible to do this? Thanks, Doug ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341237 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Is it Possible: CFPDF or PDFs
Michael I am going to ask you nicely, to stop your bullshit. Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Michael Firth [mailto:mfsqlser...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 11:49 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Is it Possible: CFPDF or PDFs now was that so hard? On Jan 25, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Andrew Scott wrote: ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341238 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Is it Possible: CFPDF or PDFs
Ok write, I must admit I took that as actually add new pages not to populate forms. But yeah if you need to add pages look at DDX. Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 11:49 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Is it Possible: CFPDF or PDFs You don't need to 'scour the web' to find that answer, just read the docs. The answer is yes, you can use CF to populate a PDF form. http://www.cfquickdocs.com/cf8/#cfpdfform Brook ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341239 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Session variables security
Hi Folks
I have several large forms connected to mySql tables.
I use cfqueryparam when querying and inserting data from the form after it has
been validated for content that I need (no blank fields etc.)
I created the following validation to check for scripts etc being injected.
Is there anything else I should check for that would indicate someone was
hacking the page.
Thanks
Rob
cfloop index=checkVariables
list=#user#,
#upDate#,
#parts#,
#workshopCode1#,
#workshopCode2#,
#workshopCode3#,
#programCode#
delimiters = ,
cfif REFind('[~^*+={}|\\/\[\]]', checkVariables)
cfset badCharacter=yes
cfset errorData=h3You have an illegal character ~^*+={}|\/
in one of the fields/h3
/cfif
cfif
REFindNoCase('onClick|onDblClick|onKeyDown|onKeyPress|onKeyUp|onMouseDo
wn|onMouseOut|onMouseUp|onMouseOver|
onBlur|onChange|onFocus|onSelect', checkVariables)
cfset badEvent=yes
cfset errorData=h3You have an illegal event in one of the
fields/h3
/cfif
cfif
REFindNoCase('script|object|applet|embed|form|layer|frame|frameset|param|m
eta|.exe|.bat', checkVariables)
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Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Michael, perhaps you need to look a bit harder before making such statements, I have personally spent 10 years running www.cfmldeveloper.com, a CF community providing free cf developer hosting to encourage and help people learn CF. I'm afraid the only one attacking and berating here is yourself, you might want to calm down. On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.comwrote: Really? I don't exactly see any of you encouraging people to learn the language. Instead you berate them with your very arrogance and in fact does more damage than help. Also, my posts have nothing to do with this, even though a few of these very same posters have used their professional emails to attack me. Not exactly setting an example are you? On Jan 25, 2011, at 7:30 PM, Michael Grant wrote: Oh come now Michael. That's not the least bit fair. Most of us experts are extremely helpful. In fact I'd say pound for pound we're some of the most helpful. True Andrew was a little off the cuff, but I think he's right in his jaded comments. Five taggers really haven't done much for the credibility of our chosen language, so it's fairly understandable why he might feel entitled to a few pot shots. It's clear from this, and your delluge of cf-jobs posts, that you've had a poor experience with CF experts. But don't let your own personal axe grinding taint your opinion of the community as a whole. We're a pretty good lot. (Yeah, I said 'taint.' It made laugh too.) On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed. I can't believe how many of these so called experts are on here claiming to be helping people, but they are probably themselves the most worthless coders you will ever find. You know sometimes one has to be humble to see the light. On Jan 25, 2011, at 6:48 PM, John M Bliss wrote: Yes. My point: surely noobs ask noob-y questions on all web app dev lang boards since the beginning of web app dev lang boards. Regardless of quantity my web app dev lang is dying FUD. We'll be judged by how we treat our noobs. :-) On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Yet he planned to replace all cflocation with cf_location, didn't he? Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 10:41 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location ...because noobs aren't yet find-and-replace ninjas? Doubt it. On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote: And people wonder why ColdFusion gets a bad name!! Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ ~~ ~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion- Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/message.cfm/messageid:341204 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/unsubscribe.cfm ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341242 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
With all due respect Michael I think you are speaking out of turn here. How would you (in Atlanta) have any idea what I (near Toronto) have been doing to encourage people to learn CF? On this list I offer as much help as I have time or advice for. Locally I've tried since the 90's to encourage the spread of CF. I don't remember ever replying in a discouraging manner on cf-talk to a n00b. In fact my only beef over the past 13+ years has been with regards to a lack of marketing for CF because I love it so. In fact, I've even reached out to you personally from cfer to cfer in an effort to save you some embarrassment and help preserve your career integrity. I would call that giving back. Methinks thou doth protest too much. On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.comwrote: Really? I don't exactly see any of you encouraging people to learn the language. Instead you berate them with your very arrogance and in fact does more damage than help. Also, my posts have nothing to do with this, even though a few of these very same posters have used their professional emails to attack me. Not exactly setting an example are you? On Jan 25, 2011, at 7:30 PM, Michael Grant wrote: Oh come now Michael. That's not the least bit fair. Most of us experts are extremely helpful. In fact I'd say pound for pound we're some of the most helpful. True Andrew was a little off the cuff, but I think he's right in his jaded comments. Five taggers really haven't done much for the credibility of our chosen language, so it's fairly understandable why he might feel entitled to a few pot shots. It's clear from this, and your delluge of cf-jobs posts, that you've had a poor experience with CF experts. But don't let your own personal axe grinding taint your opinion of the community as a whole. We're a pretty good lot. (Yeah, I said 'taint.' It made laugh too.) On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed. I can't believe how many of these so called experts are on here claiming to be helping people, but they are probably themselves the most worthless coders you will ever find. You know sometimes one has to be humble to see the light. On Jan 25, 2011, at 6:48 PM, John M Bliss wrote: Yes. My point: surely noobs ask noob-y questions on all web app dev lang boards since the beginning of web app dev lang boards. Regardless of quantity my web app dev lang is dying FUD. We'll be judged by how we treat our noobs. :-) On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Yet he planned to replace all cflocation with cf_location, didn't he? Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 10:41 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location ...because noobs aren't yet find-and-replace ninjas? Doubt it. On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote: And people wonder why ColdFusion gets a bad name!! Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ ~~ ~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion- Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/message.cfm/messageid:341204 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/unsubscribe.cfm ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341243 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Coldfusion webroot and multiple domain names
The host header is what is sent to server and contains the domain name being requested. This is then used to determine which website to display. In IIS you simply enter the domain name in the bindings section along with the IP address you want to use for the site. If you have multiple domains for the same site then just add multiple bindings, although this is bad practice and is not SEO friendly, you should redirect any aliases to the primary domain really, including www. more info here http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=how+to+setup+a+site+in+iisie=utf-8oe=utf-8aq=trls=org.mozilla:en-GB:officialclient=firefox-a -- Russ Michaels www.bluethunderinternet.com : Business hosting services solutions www.cfmldeveloper.com: ColdFusion developer community www.michaels.me.uk : my blog www.cfsearch.com : ColdFusion search engine ** *skype me* : russmichaels ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341244 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Please. So what? Somebody who was actually helping wouldnt feel the need for such self promotion. Face it your only doimg it to gloss the resume On Jan 25, 2011 8:04 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: Michael, perhaps you need to look a bit harder before making such statements, I have personally spent 10 years running www.cfmldeveloper.com, a CF community providing free cf developer hosting to encourage and help people learn CF. I'm afraid the only one attacking and berating here is yourself, you might want to calm down. On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.com wrote: Really? I don't exactly see any of you encouraging people to learn the language. Instead yo... Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341242 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.hous... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341245 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Well done on your self promotion as a Jerk Michael, you are doing an absolutely sterling job and you definitely deserve everything you get in recognition of your gr8 talent. three cheers for Michael. On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 1:12 AM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.comwrote: Please. So what? Somebody who was actually helping wouldnt feel the need for such self promotion. Face it your only doimg it to gloss the resume On Jan 25, 2011 8:04 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: Michael, perhaps you need to look a bit harder before making such statements, I have personally spent 10 years running www.cfmldeveloper.com , a CF community providing free cf developer hosting to encourage and help people learn CF. I'm afraid the only one attacking and berating here is yourself, you might want to calm down. On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.com wrote: Really? I don't exactly see any of you encouraging people to learn the language. Instead yo... Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341242 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.hous... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341246 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Wow. Sounds like the expert is taking it personally. Good to know you like to resort to personal attacks like this. Real class On Jan 25, 2011 8:24 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: Well done on your self promotion as a Jerk Michael, you are doing an absolutely sterling job and you definitely deserve everything you get in recognition of your gr8 talent. three cheers for Michael. On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 1:12 AM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.com wrote: Please. So what? Somebody who was actually helping wouldnt feel the need for such self promotion. Face it your only doimg it to gloss the resume On Jan 25, 2011 8:04 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: Michael, perhaps you need to look a bit harder before making such statements, I have personally spent 10 years running www.cfmldeveloper.com , a CF community providing free cf developer hosting to encourage and help people learn CF. I'm afraid the only one attacking and berating here is yourself, you might want to calm down. On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.com wrote: Really? I don't exactly see any of you encouraging people to learn the language. Instead yo... Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341242 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.hous... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341247 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Seriously Michael I don't know you, but I think you've blown this whole thing out of proportion. Why not take the high road and just give it a rest? I suffer from Last word syndrome at times, maybe that's what we're dealing with here. We shall see. :) Wow. Sounds like the expert is taking it personally. Good to know you like to resort to personal attacks like this. Real class On Jan 25, 2011 8:24 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: www.cfmldeveloper.com might ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341248 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Kelly, I am not the one resorting to personal attacks and this is a real big problem with expert programmers attacking new people to the profession but yet claim to help them. Russ claims to help but attacks his peers by calling them a jerk. Real professional. On Jan 25, 2011 8:35 PM, Kelly Matthews ke...@webdiva.org wrote: Seriously Michael I don't know you, but I think you've blown this whole thing out of proportion. Why not take the high road and just give it a rest? I suffer from Last word syndrome at times, maybe that's what we're dealing with here. We shall see. :) Wow. Sounds like the expert is taking it personally. Good to know you like to resort to personal attacks like this. Real class On Jan 25, 2011 8:24 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: www.cfmldeveloper.com might ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341249 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Custom Tags, cf_location
Michael, I don't know if you suffer from Aspeger's or Higher Functioning Autism as it is known over there. But I think you really need to adhere to what people are saying, back off calm down and have a good think about it later. Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Michael Firth [mailto:mfsqlser...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 12:40 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location Kelly, I am not the one resorting to personal attacks and this is a real big problem with expert programmers attacking new people to the profession but yet claim to help them. Russ claims to help but attacks his peers by calling them a jerk. Real professional. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341250 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Erm, read your own posts. You are the one attacking and insulting everyone, you called everyone a jerk, and then got all upset when it was said right back you. You make baseless claims about people contributing nothing, then throw out even more insults when you are proved wrong. The only one attacking his peers is you i'm afraid. On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 1:39 AM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.comwrote: Kelly, I am not the one resorting to personal attacks and this is a real big problem with expert programmers attacking new people to the profession but yet claim to help them. Russ claims to help but attacks his peers by calling them a jerk. Real professional. On Jan 25, 2011 8:35 PM, Kelly Matthews ke...@webdiva.org wrote: Seriously Michael I don't know you, but I think you've blown this whole thing out of proportion. Why not take the high road and just give it a rest? I suffer from Last word syndrome at times, maybe that's what we're dealing with here. We shall see. :) Wow. Sounds like the expert is taking it personally. Good to know you like to resort to personal attacks like this. Real class On Jan 25, 2011 8:24 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: www.cfmldeveloper.com might ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341251 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: RE: Custom Tags, cf_location
Ah once again with the name calling. Real professional andrew. I am really ashamed that you call yourself a developer. Like I said someone who really helps doesnt self promote On Jan 25, 2011 8:43 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Michael, I don't know if you suffer from Aspeger's or Higher Functioning Autism as it is known over there. But I think you really need to adhere to what people are saying, back off calm down and have a good think about it later. Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Michael Firth [mailto:mfsqlser...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 12:40 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location Kelly, I am not the one resorting to personal attacks and this is a real big problem with expert programmers attacking new people to the profession but yet claim to help them. Russ claims to help but attacks his peers by calling them a jerk. Real professional. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341252 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Just cant let it go can you. Real professional. On Jan 25, 2011 8:47 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: Erm, read your own posts. You are the one attacking and insulting everyone, you called everyone a jerk, and then got all upset when it was said right back you. You make baseless claims about people contributing nothing, then throw out even more insults when you are proved wrong. The only one attacking his peers is you i'm afraid. On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 1:39 AM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.com wrote: Kelly, I am not the one resorting to personal attacks and this is a real big problem with expert programmers attacking new people to the profession but yet claim to help them. Russ claims to help but attacks his peers by calling them a jerk. Real professional. On Jan 25, 2011 8:35 PM, Kelly Matthews ke...@webdiva.org wrote: Seriously Michael I don't know you, but I think you've blown this whole thing out of proportion. Why not take the high road and just give it a rest? I suffer from Last word syndrome at times, maybe that's what we're dealing with here. We shall see. :) Wow. Sounds like the expert is taking it personally. Good to know you like to resort to personal attacks like this. Real class On Jan 25, 2011 8:24 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: www.cfmldeveloper.com might ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341253 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
ok that's enough now, you are now added to my spam filter, so feel free to get the last word in as I wont see it. On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 1:49 AM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.comwrote: Just cant let it go can you. Real professional. On Jan 25, 2011 8:47 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: Erm, read your own posts. You are the one attacking and insulting everyone, you called everyone a jerk, and then got all upset when it was said right back you. You make baseless claims about people contributing nothing, then throw out even more insults when you are proved wrong. The only one attacking his peers is you i'm afraid. On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 1:39 AM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.com wrote: Kelly, I am not the one resorting to personal attacks and this is a real big problem with expert programmers attacking new people to the profession but yet claim to help them. Russ claims to help but attacks his peers by calling them a jerk. Real professional. On Jan 25, 2011 8:35 PM, Kelly Matthews ke...@webdiva.org wrote: Seriously Michael I don't know you, but I think you've blown this whole thing out of proportion. Why not take the high road and just give it a rest? I suffer from Last word syndrome at times, maybe that's what we're dealing with here. We shall see. :) Wow. Sounds like the expert is taking it personally. Good to know you like to resort to personal attacks like this. Real class On Jan 25, 2011 8:24 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: www.cfmldeveloper.com might ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341254 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Wow how mature and professional. Spam filter. Guess I was right lmao On Jan 25, 2011 8:51 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: ok that's enough now, you are now added to my spam filter, so feel free to get the last word in as I wont see it. On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 1:49 AM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.com wrote: Just cant let it go can you. Real professional. On Jan 25, 2011 8:47 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: Erm, read your own posts. You are the one attacking and insulting everyone, you called everyone a jerk, and then got all upset when it was said right back you. You make baseless claims about people contributing nothing, then throw out even more insults when you are proved wrong. The only one attacking his peers is you i'm afraid. On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 1:39 AM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.com wrote: Kelly, I am not the one resorting to personal attacks and this is a real big problem with expert programmers attacking new people to the profession but yet claim to help them. Russ claims to help but attacks his peers by calling them a jerk. Real professional. On Jan 25, 2011 8:35 PM, Kelly Matthews ke...@webdiva.org wrote: Seriously Michael I don't know you, but I think you've blown this whole thing out of proportion. Why not take the high road and just give it a rest? I suffer from Last word syndrome at times, maybe that's what we're dealing with here. We shall see. :) Wow. Sounds like the expert is taking it personally. Good to know you like to resort to personal attacks like this. Real class On Jan 25, 2011 8:24 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: www.cfmldeveloper.com might ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341255 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
why is cf_builder so expensive?
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RE: Custom Tags, cf_location
You know one of the things that I have always loved about this list is that anyone could ask a question no matter how NOOBISH and no one would treat them with any ill will. The people would always gently move them to the proper way of doing things and everyone would learn. I apologize that this is not the case today. I hope the list will return to being a safe-haven for those looking for advice and help. Steve (Note: the previous was my personal opinion and may not be the opinion of my friends, others on the list, my employer, or the general public) -Original Message- From: Michael Firth [mailto:mfsqlser...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 6:49 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location Its amazing how fast the experts forget they were beginners at one time. It has everything with being a so called expert. You could have just answered his question in a more professional manner. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341258 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
That fails to address OP's question. Instead, it begs his question... I hate to get into this, but ... I don't think you're using beg the question correctly. When you beg the question, you're assuming the answer. Whatever Andrew's doing, I don't think it's that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341259 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: RE: Custom Tags, cf_location
I can only hope for the same thing too. On Jan 25, 2011 9:22 PM, DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT) sd1...@att.com wrote: You know one of the things that I have always loved about this list is that anyone could ask a question no matter how NOOBISH and no one would treat them with any ill will. The people would always gently move them to the proper way of doing things and everyone would learn. I apologize that this is not the case today. I hope the list will return to being a safe-haven for those looking for advice and help. Steve (Note: the previous was my personal opinion and may not be the opinion of my friends, others on the list, my employer, or the general public) -Original Message- From: Michael Firth [mailto:mfsqlser...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 6:49 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location Its amazing how fast the experts forget they were beginners at one time. It has everything with being a so called expert. You could have just answered his question in a more professional manner. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341260 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: why is cf_builder so expensive?
Wow that's kind of a loaded question, and potential flame bait. CFB is expensive because it's in line with other products from Adobe. They don't make cheap software, they don't make bad software. They do a good job and they support it really well. CFEclipse was created on free time and borrowed time and, even once in a while, bought time. On the other hand, Adobe pays people to create their software, they don't get it or make it for free. I would also add that CF Builder is important in the marketplace because it solidifies CF as a fully supported platform, end to end. Many people purchasing software want to buy from one vendor because they know homogeny always works. Not offering CFB means Adobe loses money. CFBuilder is not actually all that expensive considering what you get with it, and compared to a lot of other professional development tools. IntelliJ Idea is $700. Visual Studio's pricing structure needs a full map, but the pro version is around $800. Unfortunately for all of these companies, there are great open source alternatives. Personally, I use CFEclipse, but that's just because I'm waiting for my company to come through with the CFBuilder licenses. Though I would probably keep CFE on hand for those special times. Also, I have Notepad++ (with CF plugin) as a quick pick-up editor for one-off things. nathan strutz [http://www.dopefly.com/] [http://hi.im/nathanstrutz] On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.comwrote: Thoughts about cf builder. Do you use it? Or do you use cf eclipse or another alternative? Not sure if I am going to get it so I like to hear some thoughts on it. Thanks ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341261 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Wikipedia is not exactly a great source for verifying something lol. Just saying. On Jan 25, 2011, at 9:26 PM, Dave Watts wrote: That fails to address OP's question. Instead, it begs his question... I hate to get into this, but ... I don't think you're using beg the question correctly. When you beg the question, you're assuming the answer. Whatever Andrew's doing, I don't think it's that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341262 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
