Re: after a long hiatus back to talk about frameworks
Anecdotally: - http://cfwheels.org - http://coldbox.org http://www.coldbox.org/ - http://fusebox.org http://www.fusebox.org/ - http://mach-ii.com http://www.mach-ii.com/ - http://fw1.riaforge.org - http://ontap.riaforge.org - and others I recommend picking whichever seems to line up best with your way of thinking about things (or the way you'd *like* to think about things) and go with it. On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 11:58 PM, Don danfar...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, its been a while since I did any CF work. I am wondering what framework seems to be popular right now. I did a bit of fusebox and liked it. But am wondering about the others out there. I noticed CF builder 2 didn't have any support for it as did CFEclipse. I find that odd. Has FB gone 'out of fashion' ? I would like something that worked liked objects.. I can't remember if FB did that very well. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351051 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: after a long hiatus back to talk about frameworks
some resources which may help you getting back into CF www.cf411.com www.cfsearch.com www.cfmldeveloper.com from these you can most likely find everything else you need On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 10:36 AM, John M Bliss bliss.j...@gmail.com wrote: Anecdotally: - http://cfwheels.org - http://coldbox.org http://www.coldbox.org/ - http://fusebox.org http://www.fusebox.org/ - http://mach-ii.com http://www.mach-ii.com/ - http://fw1.riaforge.org - http://ontap.riaforge.org - and others I recommend picking whichever seems to line up best with your way of thinking about things (or the way you'd *like* to think about things) and go with it. On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 11:58 PM, Don danfar...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, its been a while since I did any CF work. I am wondering what framework seems to be popular right now. I did a bit of fusebox and liked it. But am wondering about the others out there. I noticed CF builder 2 didn't have any support for it as did CFEclipse. I find that odd. Has FB gone 'out of fashion' ? I would like something that worked liked objects.. I can't remember if FB did that very well. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351052 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: bizarre cffile upload bug.
the file is written as a 103kb file both ways, its ftp'd up, as the same size. cffile through chrome (beta) = no dice cffile through safari = workie workie as i said, gonna test more this am. On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 11:57 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: I must assume that the beta tag is maybe what is happening here. something about the filestream is getting corrupt when sending a file up. wird. Is the file itself written properly to the server in both cases? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351053 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: bizarre cffile upload bug.
:) dude. seriously. the controller has no play in this, the controller merely does the sql insertion of the record that yes a file has been uploaded, here is its name, publish date, etc. this piece is behind the site, in the /admin area. there's no VIEWING of the pdf back there just uploading and saving those facts in the DB. mind you, this exact same code, with ZERO changes, works spot-on in safari. my BETA version of chrome is the issue. im going to do a test with the same code, pared down to the basics, and then ill show ya what happens. this ill make public facing, gimme a few. tw On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 11:56 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: but seriously, I'm merely hitting a method in my main controller that does stuff for this site. works in safari 100% of the time!!! just not chrome. I'm still going with something happening after the file upload for $100, Alex. But to see what exactly this might be, here's what I'd do: 1. Build a working version outside of your controller (separate little app) that just does the file upload (and if you're then showing the file, that too). 2. Test this to make sure it works in Chrome. 3. Use a recording proxy/packet sniffer/Firebug/etc to see what's different in the response between the two. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351054 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: bizarre cffile upload bug.
so, I made a simple test case :) and it worked in chrome. so, maybe the cflocation (back to the you've succeeded page) that is after the cffile tag would make the file not correct, and corrupt?? weird. weird. tw On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Ras Tafari rastaf...@gmail.com wrote: :) dude. seriously. the controller has no play in this, the controller merely does the sql insertion of the record that yes a file has been uploaded, here is its name, publish date, etc. this piece is behind the site, in the /admin area. there's no VIEWING of the pdf back there just uploading and saving those facts in the DB. mind you, this exact same code, with ZERO changes, works spot-on in safari. my BETA version of chrome is the issue. im going to do a test with the same code, pared down to the basics, and then ill show ya what happens. this ill make public facing, gimme a few. tw On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 11:56 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: but seriously, I'm merely hitting a method in my main controller that does stuff for this site. works in safari 100% of the time!!! just not chrome. I'm still going with something happening after the file upload for $100, Alex. But to see what exactly this might be, here's what I'd do: 1. Build a working version outside of your controller (separate little app) that just does the file upload (and if you're then showing the file, that too). 2. Test this to make sure it works in Chrome. 3. Use a recording proxy/packet sniffer/Firebug/etc to see what's different in the response between the two. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351055 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: bizarre cffile upload bug.
so, I made a simple test case :) and it worked in chrome. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=cCI18qAoKq4#t=59s so, maybe the cflocation (back to the you've succeeded page) that is after the cffile tag would make the file not correct, and corrupt?? weird. weird. How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351056 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: bizarre cffile upload bug.
well, my dear watt's-son :) im perplexed, but ill tinker with it later. take'er easy! On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: so, I made a simple test case :) and it worked in chrome. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=cCI18qAoKq4#t=59s so, maybe the cflocation (back to the you've succeeded page) that is after the cffile tag would make the file not correct, and corrupt?? weird. weird. How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351057 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Controlling Spiders
this is the official way to do it. http://www.robotstxt.org/ The problem with Robots.txt is that it is only obeyed by well behaved bots. Well behaved bots won't cause traffic problem, even if they are a dozen sucking your site in the same time. I've seen bad bots reading robots.txt and immediately request all exclusions. Personaly, I use robots.txt to forbid a directory containing a trap for bad bots and shut the door to them. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351058 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Controlling Spiders
What would be nice if the companies that create the likes of IIS and Apache and others, got together and defined a protocol at the server level, then they can request what they would like and if the server refuses them, then stiff shit jack. I like rewrite rules for this purpose, and it maybe best at the firewall level, but any that disobey the robots.txt file is placed into the rewrite rules and I forward them to a sever 404 error. -- Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/108193156965451149543 On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:20 AM, wrote: this is the official way to do it. http://www.robotstxt.org/ The problem with Robots.txt is that it is only obeyed by well behaved bots. Well behaved bots won't cause traffic problem, even if they are a dozen sucking your site in the same time. I've seen bad bots reading robots.txt and immediately request all exclusions. Personaly, I use robots.txt to forbid a directory containing a trap for bad bots and shut the door to them. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351059 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Controlling Spiders
What would be nice if the companies that create the likes of IIS and Apache and others, got together and defined a protocol at the server level. IMHO, the only rule that would be really useful would be to force Robots to 1. identify the web page were they discribe their purpose and what they are lookin for, 2. give a list of IP addresses or range they are crawling from so we can white or black list them. But asking them to obey robots.txt file is like relying on laws to keep burglars away from your house. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351060 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: after a long hiatus back to talk about frameworks
some resources which may help you getting back into CF www.cf411.com www.cfsearch.com www.cfmldeveloper.com from these you can most likely find everything else you need thanks guys. Wow, some old names I still remember. =) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351061 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: after a long hiatus back to talk about frameworks
I'm not afraid to poke the stormcloud :) Fusebox went unsupported for a number of years and there was some drama about who owned the source code (it predates modern open source licenses). There was a failed fork and then the community stepped in and created a barrage of better frameworks. Recently, Fusebox has been open-sourced (on github) and there is a small team of people working on the next version. It may be too little and too late, but still probably a worthy effort. Even still, I would not recommend going that way. Many people believe Framework/1 (fw1.riaforge.org) is the true successor to Fusebox. It implements a couple features the same way, and it was created by the FB 5 and 5.5 primary developer Sean Corfield. Depending on the size of what you plan to build, you may be able to shrink your selection. The more enterprise options are probably Mach-II, Model-Glue and ColdBox. They do a lot and have a lot going for them. ColdBox is the younger of the three, and probably best documented, Louis also does great training classes. Model-Glue hasn't seen a lot of action lately. Model-Glue and Mach-II are heavily XML based and (to me) can get overwhelming. The more casual options are probably cfwheels and FW/1, but like John Bliss said, go with whichever works with your way of thinking. (I hope I offended everyone with this ;) nathan strutz [www.dopefly.com] [hi.im/nathanstrutz] [about.me/nathanstrutz] On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 9:58 PM, Don danfar...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, its been a while since I did any CF work. I am wondering what framework seems to be popular right now. I did a bit of fusebox and liked it. But am wondering about the others out there. I noticed CF builder 2 didn't have any support for it as did CFEclipse. I find that odd. Has FB gone 'out of fashion' ? I would like something that worked liked objects.. I can't remember if FB did that very well. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351062 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: after a long hiatus back to talk about frameworks
Many people believe Framework/1 (fw1.riaforge.org) is the true successor to Fusebox. +1 I ran into this the other day: CFMeetup 2011_0303 Simple MVC with FW/1, with Daria Norris http://vimeo.com/21864956 That should get you started with FW/1 in (fairly) short order. HTH G! On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Nathan Strutz str...@gmail.com wrote: Many people believe Framework/1 (fw1.riaforge.org) is the true successor to Fusebox. It implements a couple features the same way, and it was created by the FB 5 and 5.5 primary developer Sean Corfield. -- Gerald Guido http://www.myinternetisbroken.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351063 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Controlling Spiders
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Richard Steele r...@photoeye.com wrote: Today we had Google + 3 or 4 other spiders hammering our multi-instance server at the same time. Is there a way to control these bots to prevent them from submitting request after request? How do most high traffic servers handle this? Thanks! I addition to the advice you've gotten (and please take this as constructive advice) it's possible that if you are having trouble dealing with search engine traffic - you do not, in fact, have a high traffic server. This may be a good gut-check time to ask yourself Can we handle increased load if our website becomes suddenly more successful?. Seeing your website hiccup on search crawler traffic may be a good early indicator that you need to do some stress testing and find places to improve. -Cameron -- Cameron Childress -- p: 678.637.5072 im: cameroncf facebook http://www.facebook.com/cameroncf | twitterhttp://twitter.com/cameronc | google+ https://profiles.google.com/u/0/117829379451708140985 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351064 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Controlling Spiders
Here's my cent and a half. I help a large ecommerce group 10x google traffic by presenting the data to google by direct html and no ajax as google was not indexing the ajaxan data. That 10x traffice meant big business for the company and they decided to push CF into a cluster group via ralio. Just because it's high traffic doesn't mean it's high expense. Treat google as the best sales guy your company can have and give it what it wants.. Know that page load time to the crawler comes into play for the google reports to reindex times etc. Check out the google webmaster tools and put it through the tests there. On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Richard Steele r...@photoeye.com wrote: Today we had Google + 3 or 4 other spiders hammering our multi-instance server at the same time. Is there a way to control these bots to prevent them from submitting request after request? How do most high traffic servers handle this? Thanks! I addition to the advice you've gotten (and please take this as constructive advice) it's possible that if you are having trouble dealing with search engine traffic - you do not, in fact, have a high traffic server. This may be a good gut-check time to ask yourself Can we handle increased load if our website becomes suddenly more successful?. Seeing your website hiccup on search crawler traffic may be a good early indicator that you need to do some stress testing and find places to improve. -Cameron -- Cameron Childress -- p: 678.637.5072 im: cameroncf facebook http://www.facebook.com/cameroncf | twitterhttp://twitter.com/cameronc | google+ https://profiles.google.com/u/0/117829379451708140985 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351065 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Page-break pdf not working inside table
I am having trouble with using page-breaks within a PDF table that has nested loop with boarders. The bottom boarder seems to be on the last pasge by it self. the page looks fine untill I use cfdocumentitem type=pagebreak. I have alo tried some HTML page breaks with no sucsess... Backround Using dreamweaver CS4 Cold Fusion 9 server ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351066 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Odd SQL Problem
I don't know if it's because its 11PM or what but I got a get of SQL
working on MSQL client but wont work via cfquery significant amount of
googleing was a nogo...
Any ideas?
select *
into NewTable FROM OPENROWSET('Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0',
'Excel 8.0;Database=C:\Brian.xls;HDR=YES',
'SELECT * FROM [Sheet1$]')
SQL MS comes back with 1500 record(s) added but cfcomes back with
Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0 for linked server (null)
turns out this is a generic message and could very to permissions to
single quotes
Any ideas or does anyone have cfquery example to the insert into?
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Re: Odd SQL Problem
I don't know if it's because its 11PM or what but I got a get of SQL
working on MSQL client but wont work via cfquery significant amount of
googleing was a nogo...
Any ideas?
select *
into NewTable FROM OPENROWSET('Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0',
'Excel 8.0;Database=C:\Brian.xls;HDR=YES',
'SELECT * FROM [Sheet1$]')
SQL MS comes back with 1500 record(s) added but cfcomes back with
Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0 for linked server (null)
turns out this is a generic message and could very to permissions to
single quotes
I suspect that OPENROWSET isn't going to work with CF through JDBC.
I'm not sure why - perhaps it expects the connection string to work
from the machine running CF. You could try writing it as a stored
procedure, then calling the sproc from CF.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/
Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
instruction at our training centers, online, or ons
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Re: Odd SQL Problem
Got it..
Thanks Dave.
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:13 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:
I don't know if it's because its 11PM or what but I got a get of SQL
working on MSQL client but wont work via cfquery significant amount of
googleing was a nogo...
Any ideas?
select *
into NewTable FROM OPENROWSET('Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0',
'Excel 8.0;Database=C:\Brian.xls;HDR=YES',
'SELECT * FROM [Sheet1$]')
SQL MS comes back with 1500 record(s) added but cfcomes back with
Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0 for linked server (null)
turns out this is a generic message and could very to permissions to
single quotes
I suspect that OPENROWSET isn't going to work with CF through JDBC.
I'm not sure why - perhaps it expects the connection string to work
from the machine running CF. You could try writing it as a stored
procedure, then calling the sproc from CF.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/
Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
instruction at our training centers, online, or ons
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