Re: now( ) is off by an hour
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 9:31 AM, daniel kessler dani...@umd.edu wrote: I get: JRE:=Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition 1.4.2_09-b05 This is your problem. I saw that there is an update to 1.4.2_11, but that came out around 2007 I think. So I would need a more recent update. Yes, this JVM is very very old. It does not have the correct time database to correct for the DST changes that went into effect way back in 2007(!!). Since DST just shifted in the US this past weekend, you are probably seeing the problem starting this week (your JVM probably thinks it doesn't shift for two more weeks). Here is the Adobe KB article addressing the issue. http://helpx.adobe.com/coldfusion/kb/coldfusion-mx-jrun-suns-jvm.html Update your JVM. If it's 6+ years old, this is likely only one of many problems you will encounter. -Cameron -- Cameron Childress -- p: 678.637.5072 im: cameroncf facebook http://www.facebook.com/cameroncf | twitterhttp://twitter.com/cameronc | google+ https://profiles.google.com/u/0/117829379451708140985 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354966 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: (ot) .NET vs. CF
Adam, if you're that down on CF why are you still using it? Or for that matter posting to a CF list? This is a traditionally unpopular metric with CF developers, but there's this: http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html Java's more prevalent than .NET platform languages, but that's not a compelling reason to use either (/or). And let's not forget that CFML is not Java, so it's a pointless comparison to make anyhow. To the OP: CFML is withering away... get used to it. Take whatever opportunity you can to shift to a different language. Either .net-based languages or Java would be good options. -- Adam On 13 March 2013 00:09, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354967 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: (ot) .NET vs. CF
Open BD stagnant? You have to be joking. It has a very active google groups mailing list, and OBD is actively developed - up to v. 3X now with some very unique features. While opinions are fine, please don't mask opinions as fact Adam. I can't vouch for New Atlanta itself, but BD.NET has not seen any activity for a number of years, and never got beyond CFMX 7 compat, as far as I can recollect. OpenBD is - as far as I can tell - a stagnant project (except for Alan doing what best suits Alan: fair enough... that was always the story with OpenBD anyhow), and BD.NET has been stagnant for *much* longer that that. BD.NET might exist, but it's not something anyone should recommend to anyone to use, in our community. And I think OpenBD has pretty much gone that way as well. IMO. -- Adam On 12 March 2013 22:49, Justin Scott leviat...@darktech.org wrote: ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354968 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: (ot) .NET vs. CF
What in what I said suggested I'm down on CF? That it is running out of steam and becoming less and less relevant as time goes on (and I don't think anyone who has a reasonable purchase on reality can contest that?) has no bearing on nor is impacted by what *I* personally think about it. I'm just a realist (which is something a lot of CFers seem to not want to be, for some reason). -- Adam On 13 March 2013 13:31, Larry Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: Adam, if you're that down on CF why are you still using it? Or for that matter posting to a CF list? This is a traditionally unpopular metric with CF developers, but there's this: http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html Java's more prevalent than .NET platform languages, but that's not a compelling reason to use either (/or). And let's not forget that CFML is not Java, so it's a pointless comparison to make anyhow. To the OP: CFML is withering away... get used to it. Take whatever opportunity you can to shift to a different language. Either .net-based languages or Java would be good options. -- Adam On 13 March 2013 00:09, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354969 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: (ot) .NET vs. CF
Zombie Lover... Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 3/13/2013 9:31 AM, Larry Lyons wrote: Adam, if you're that down on CF why are you still using it? Or for that matter posting to a CF list? This is a traditionally unpopular metric with CF developers, but there's this: http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html Java's more prevalent than .NET platform languages, but that's not a compelling reason to use either (/or). And let's not forget that CFML is not Java, so it's a pointless comparison to make anyhow. To the OP: CFML is withering away... get used to it. Take whatever opportunity you can to shift to a different language. Either .net-based languages or Java would be good options. -- Adam On 13 March 2013 00:09, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354970 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: (ot) .NET vs. CF
[Snort]. Yeah, OK mate. You keep telling yourself that. -- Adam On 13 March 2013 13:38, Larry Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: Open BD stagnant? You have to be joking. It has a very active google groups mailing list, and OBD is actively developed - up to v. 3X now with some very unique features. While opinions are fine, please don't mask opinions as fact Adam. I can't vouch for New Atlanta itself, but BD.NET has not seen any activity for a number of years, and never got beyond CFMX 7 compat, as far as I can recollect. OpenBD is - as far as I can tell - a stagnant project (except for Alan doing what best suits Alan: fair enough... that was always the story with OpenBD anyhow), and BD.NET has been stagnant for *much* longer that that. BD.NET might exist, but it's not something anyone should recommend to anyone to use, in our community. And I think OpenBD has pretty much gone that way as well. IMO. -- Adam On 12 March 2013 22:49, Justin Scott leviat...@darktech.org wrote: ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354971 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: (ot) .NET vs. CF
I looked at OBD site a while back noticed there was. No mention of the windows installers done by Viviotech, you have to go to his site to find them. No mention of the Web Platform Installer version done by Helicon either. I know it is very geared toward Linux users, but to purposefully exclude that info seems mighty daft. I also got the impression that it was stagnant and rarely updated. Although to be fair Railo are not very good at keeping their site updated either. On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Adam Cameron adamcameroncoldfus...@gmail.com wrote: [Snort]. Yeah, OK mate. You keep telling yourself that. -- Adam On 13 March 2013 13:38, Larry Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: Open BD stagnant? You have to be joking. It has a very active google groups mailing list, and OBD is actively developed - up to v. 3X now with some very unique features. While opinions are fine, please don't mask opinions as fact Adam. I can't vouch for New Atlanta itself, but BD.NET has not seen any activity for a number of years, and never got beyond CFMX 7 compat, as far as I can recollect. OpenBD is - as far as I can tell - a stagnant project (except for Alan doing what best suits Alan: fair enough... that was always the story with OpenBD anyhow), and BD.NET has been stagnant for *much* longer that that. BD.NET might exist, but it's not something anyone should recommend to anyone to use, in our community. And I think OpenBD has pretty much gone that way as well. IMO. -- Adam On 12 March 2013 22:49, Justin Scott leviat...@darktech.org wrote: ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354972 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: (ot) .NET vs. CF
Working on it as much as I can! Regards Mark Drew On 13 Mar 2013, at 14:00, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: Although to be fair Railo are not very good at keeping their site updated either. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354973 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
GoogleCalendar - ColdFusion
Hello,
some days ago I was playing with Raymond Camden application found in riaforge
(http://googlecal.riaforge.org/)
My goals was write a cfm page in a crm where plan an event and found it in my
googlecalendar too. That's quite easy.
I would like to delete an event.
The application has information on how to get the calendar's event list.
i.e.:
cfset events =
application.gCal.getEvents(calid=calId,maxevents=50,orderby=starttime,sortdir=d)
cfdump var=#events# label=Events expand=false
The query return a huge file where are listed all the calendar's event
information.
To delete an event, I had to found it's event's id in this huge file.
Anybody has try to play with this application?
How could I manage the #event# content ?
Thank u
Stefano
Following the #event# content with only one event:
-
style
table.cfdump_wddx,
table.cfdump_xml,
table.cfdump_struct,
table.cfdump_varundefined,
table.cfdump_array,
table.cfdump_query,
table.cfdump_cfc,
table.cfdump_object,
table.cfdump_binary,
table.cfdump_udf,
table.cfdump_udfbody,
table.cfdump_udfarguments {
font-size: xx-small;
font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
cell-spacing: 2px;
}
table.cfdump_wddx th,
table.cfdump_xml th,
table.cfdump_struct th,
table.cfdump_varundefined th,
table.cfdump_array th,
table.cfdump_query th,
table.cfdump_cfc th,
table.cfdump_object th,
table.cfdump_binary th,
table.cfdump_udf th,
table.cfdump_udfbody th,
table.cfdump_udfarguments th {
text-align: left;
color: white;
padding: 5px;
}
table.cfdump_wddx td,
table.cfdump_xml td,
table.cfdump_struct td,
table.cfdump_varundefined td,
table.cfdump_array td,
table.cfdump_query td,
table.cfdump_cfc td,
table.cfdump_object td,
table.cfdump_binary td,
table.cfdump_udf td,
table.cfdump_udfbody td,
table.cfdump_udfarguments td {
padding: 3px;
background-color: #ff;
vertical-align : top;
}
table.cfdump_wddx {
background-color: #00;
}
table.cfdump_wddx th.wddx {
background-color: #44;
}
table.cfdump_xml {
background-color: #88;
}
table.cfdump_xml th.xml {
background-color: #aa;
}
table.cfdump_xml td.xml {
background-color: #dd;
}
table.cfdump_struct {
background-color: #cc ;
}
table.cfdump_struct th.struct {
background-color: #cc ;
}
table.cfdump_struct td.struct {
background-color: #ccddff;
}
table.cfdump_varundefined {
background-color: #CC3300 ;
}
table.cfdump_varundefined th.varundefined {
background-color: #CC3300 ;
}
table.cfdump_varundefined td.varundefined {
background-color: #ccddff;
}
table.cfdump_array {
background-color: #006600 ;
}
table.cfdump_array th.array {
background-color: #009900 ;
}
table.cfdump_array td.array {
background-color: #ccffcc ;
}
table.cfdump_query {
background-color: #884488 ;
}
table.cfdump_query th.query {
background-color: #aa66aa ;
}
table.cfdump_query td.query {
background-color: #ffddff ;
}
table.cfdump_cfc {
background-color: #ff;
}
table.cfdump_cfc th.cfc{
background-color: #ff;
}
table.cfdump_cfc td.cfc {
background-color: #ff;
}
table.cfdump_object {
background-color : #ff;
}
table.cfdump_object th.object{
background-color: #ff;
}
table.cfdump_binary {
background-color : #eebb00;
}
table.cfdump_binary th.binary {
background-color: #ffcc44;
}
table.cfdump_binary td {
font-size: x-small;
}
table.cfdump_udf {
background-color: #aa4400;
}
table.cfdump_udf th.udf {
background-color: #cc6600;
}
table.cfdump_udfarguments {
background-color: #dd;
cell-spacing: 3;
}
table.cfdump_udfarguments th {
background-color: #ee;
color:
Website Search Engine
Hello Fellow CFers: We have a CMS site we want to be searchable. All the content as well as static webpages that are included on this site must be in the search. I just want your opinion on what you feel would be best. Just to clarify, we have some of the content being dynamically processed from the SQL server through queries and we have some static pages that were specially created to be included in on this CMS site. I would like to have the ability to search these two areas for results. I'm aware of the CFSEARCH through CF and I've used Googles search before as well. Is there anything else out there you feel is better fit for the job? Thanks in advance everyone! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354975 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Website Search Engine
We have a CMS site we want to be searchable. All the content as well as static webpages that are included on this site must be in the search. I just want your opinion on what you feel would be best. Just to clarify, we have some of the content being dynamically processed from the SQL server through queries and we have some static pages that were specially created to be included in on this CMS site. I would like to have the ability to search these two areas for results. I'm aware of the CFSEARCH through CF and I've used Googles search before as well. Is there anything else out there you feel is better fit for the job? Well, I'm probably tremendously biased - more on that in a sec - but I'd recommend you use a Google search solution if you can afford it. The Google Search Appliance can handle any sort of text-based content you have: docs on a web server, database records, content in proprietary systems like SharePoint, FileNet, LiveLink, Notes/Domino, Vignette, CQ 5, etc, etc, etc. And of course it works very well with CF content (as long as you do things right). It does a tremendous job with relevance - better than Solr - and generally does better at content acquisition, as you can fire and forget it as long as your content is working properly. It is, however, expensive, and Solr is free. But it takes a lot less time to set up and manage, and you can often use one GSA setup throughout an organization, rather than having different search silos for different applications. I've worked with quite a few Solr shops where they ended up spending less time and money on search, and getting better results, once they switched to GSA. (And don't even get me started with Verity and Autonomy). Now, as I mentioned above, I am probably very biased. I've been working with the GSA since about 2005. We do a lot of CMS implementations and support here at Fig Leaf Software. We help support National Park Service (http://www.nps.gov/) which is a huge CF-based CMS implementation. We used to use CFSEARCH (Verity, then Solr) with many of our CMS customers. But when we had millions of documents, those solutions ran out of steam and we looked for alternatives. We ended up choosing the Google Search Appliance, and have been very happy Google customers ever since. In fact, we like it so much we started a line of business solely to sell and support Google search solutions - and today, I am in charge of that business unit. Fig Leaf Software is a Google Enterprise partner, and we have been very successful with the GSA because it's a very good solution. If you have specific GSA questions that are off-topic for this list, feel free to contact me directly, or send an email to goo...@figleaf.com - that goes to everyone involved with GSA sales, implementation services, support, etc. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354976 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Website Search Engine
Dave, I'm curious why you say GSA is easier to setup than Solr. Given that you a) make a collection (one tag) b) index it (one tag, although you need it a few places) c) search it (one tag) The setup for Solr is relatively simple. Are you seeing differently with your clients? On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: We have a CMS site we want to be searchable. All the content as well as static webpages that are included on this site must be in the search. I just want your opinion on what you feel would be best. Just to clarify, we have some of the content being dynamically processed from the SQL server through queries and we have some static pages that were specially created to be included in on this CMS site. I would like to have the ability to search these two areas for results. I'm aware of the CFSEARCH through CF and I've used Googles search before as well. Is there anything else out there you feel is better fit for the job? Well, I'm probably tremendously biased - more on that in a sec - but I'd recommend you use a Google search solution if you can afford it. The Google Search Appliance can handle any sort of text-based content you have: docs on a web server, database records, content in proprietary systems like SharePoint, FileNet, LiveLink, Notes/Domino, Vignette, CQ 5, etc, etc, etc. And of course it works very well with CF content (as long as you do things right). It does a tremendous job with relevance - better than Solr - and generally does better at content acquisition, as you can fire and forget it as long as your content is working properly. It is, however, expensive, and Solr is free. But it takes a lot less time to set up and manage, and you can often use one GSA setup throughout an organization, rather than having different search silos for different applications. I've worked with quite a few Solr shops where they ended up spending less time and money on search, and getting better results, once they switched to GSA. (And don't even get me started with Verity and Autonomy). Now, as I mentioned above, I am probably very biased. I've been working with the GSA since about 2005. We do a lot of CMS implementations and support here at Fig Leaf Software. We help support National Park Service (http://www.nps.gov/) which is a huge CF-based CMS implementation. We used to use CFSEARCH (Verity, then Solr) with many of our CMS customers. But when we had millions of documents, those solutions ran out of steam and we looked for alternatives. We ended up choosing the Google Search Appliance, and have been very happy Google customers ever since. In fact, we like it so much we started a line of business solely to sell and support Google search solutions - and today, I am in charge of that business unit. Fig Leaf Software is a Google Enterprise partner, and we have been very successful with the GSA because it's a very good solution. If you have specific GSA questions that are off-topic for this list, feel free to contact me directly, or send an email to goo...@figleaf.com - that goes to everyone involved with GSA sales, implementation services, support, etc. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354977 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Website Search Engine
Dave, I'm curious why you say GSA is easier to setup than Solr. Given that you a) make a collection (one tag) b) index it (one tag, although you need it a few places) c) search it (one tag) The setup for Solr is relatively simple. Are you seeing differently with your clients? Yes, I am! Beyond rack-mounting the GSA and initial configuration, if you simply have web content all you have to do is give the GSA your home page URL, and ... that's it. You don't have to define index repositories (which is what a Solr collection is), you don't have to explicitly index items or schedule a time for them to be indexed - and those two items are where a lot of the complexity often ends up. You do still have to search, of course. The GSA will index your content all by itself. It will optimize the crawl schedule for that content, meaning that it won't unnecessarily reindex things that haven't changed.* You don't have to optimize or purge collections. And of course, in an enterprise environment, you may have multiple CF servers and applications, and you want to provide a single search experience across all of them. Do you set up a separate Solr server, or does each CF server have its own Solr instance? How do you manage content acquisition in that environment? Now, if all you have is your own web site and it's pretty small and your CF server isn't running at capacity already, the GSA might well be overkill for you, I'll give you that. But most organizations end up having a more complex search environment than they initially think. Each application or server often has its own repository, so you end up with Solr for CF, and FAST for SharePoint, etc, etc, etc. You have no easy way to federate searches across these repositories, compare relevance, etc. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354978 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Website Search Engine
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: Yes, I am! Beyond rack-mounting the GSA and initial configuration, if you simply have web content all you have to do is give the GSA your home page URL, and ... that's it. You don't have to define index repositories (which is what a Solr collection is), you don't have to But this isn't necessarily a bad thing. If you want separate search indexes (perhaps one for blog entries versus one for content) then you would want/need to do this. I assume GSA would also allow for this, but would also require configuration. explicitly index items or schedule a time for them to be indexed - and those two items are where a lot of the complexity often ends up. Really? Assuming you have a CFC handling your persistence, it is one line in the save method, one line in delete. I just went through this with my own blog. Ok, that may be more work than nothing, but... seriously - it was 5 minutes configuration to the code. The GSA will index your content all by itself. It will optimize the crawl schedule for that content, meaning that it won't unnecessarily reindex things that haven't changed.* You don't have to optimize or Neither will Solr.;) purge collections. And of course, in an enterprise environment, you may have multiple CF servers and applications, and you want to provide a single search experience across all of them. Do you set up a separate Solr server, or does each CF server have its own Solr instance? How do you manage content acquisition in that environment? You can specify a separate Solr server in the CF Admin, and as far as I know, the cfindex/cfsearch code doesn't change at all. (To be clear though, I haven't tested this.) So if your system did move from 1 to N, it should be relative simply to also switch to one central Solr server too. To be clear - I'm not arguing GSA isn't worth it - just not agreeing with Solr being that difficult to use. :) -- === Raymond Camden, Adobe Developer Evangelist Email : raymondcam...@gmail.com Blog : www.raymondcamden.com Twitter: cfjedimaster ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354979 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Website Search Engine
Yes, I am! Beyond rack-mounting the GSA and initial configuration, if you simply have web content all you have to do is give the GSA your home page URL, and ... that's it. You don't have to define index repositories (which is what a Solr collection is), you don't have to But this isn't necessarily a bad thing. If you want separate search indexes (perhaps one for blog entries versus one for content) then you would want/need to do this. I assume GSA would also allow for this, but would also require configuration. Yes, you can create collections in the GSA, and use those to filter search results. Collections don't really mean the same thing in the GSA as they do in Solr or Verity - you only have one index in the GSA - but you can use collections as if they were separate indexes if you like. But going to your original point, you don't have to set that up if you don't want that, and we were specifically talking about ease of use. So, on one system, you have to create collections whether you want them or not, and on the other system, you don't. explicitly index items or schedule a time for them to be indexed - and those two items are where a lot of the complexity often ends up. Really? Assuming you have a CFC handling your persistence, it is one line in the save method, one line in delete. I just went through this with my own blog. Ok, that may be more work than nothing, but... seriously - it was 5 minutes configuration to the code. It's one line of code vs no lines of code. No lines wins! The GSA will index your content all by itself. It will optimize the crawl schedule for that content, meaning that it won't unnecessarily reindex things that haven't changed.* You don't have to optimize or Neither will Solr.;) Well, hold on a second here. There are two common approaches I see with Solr and CF apps. Either you're specifically triggering indexing when you create content, which over time causes performance degradation in Solr, or you have a scheduled reindexing process which reindexes everything. In the latter case, you're unnecessarily reindexing things that haven't changed, because it's cheaper than tracking what has changed and only reindexing that. And if you do spend the time to track what has changed, that's implementation time and effort spent. You can specify a separate Solr server in the CF Admin, and as far as I know, the cfindex/cfsearch code doesn't change at all. (To be clear though, I haven't tested this.) So if your system did move from 1 to N, it should be relative simply to also switch to one central Solr server too. That's all correct. But there are some perhaps non-obvious logistical issues. For example, If you're indexing file content from multiple systems, how do you get that file content to Solr? To be clear - I'm not arguing GSA isn't worth it - just not agreeing with Solr being that difficult to use. :) I don't think I said that Solr is that difficult to use. I just said that, overall, the GSA is easier to use (again, once the box is actually rack-mounted and given an IP address). But honestly, that's not why I think people should use GSA. They should use it because it works better. It provides better relevance. It runs faster. It has quite a bit of additional functionality. I've worked with quite a few people who migrated from Solr to GSA, and they could chew your ear off telling you about the GSA's advantages. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354980 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Website Search Engine
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: Well, hold on a second here. There are two common approaches I see with Solr and CF apps. Either you're specifically triggering indexing when you create content, which over time causes performance degradation in Solr, or you have a scheduled reindexing process which reindexes everything. In the latter case, you're unnecessarily reindexing things that haven't changed, because it's cheaper than tracking what has changed and only reindexing that. And if you do spend the time to track what has changed, that's implementation time and effort spent. I haven't seen this in index updates. I know Verity needed periodic optimize calls on the collection. You can also do DIH indexing which can be configured to update things based on a SQL query and a time stamp, which would *not* mean unnecessary indexing. DIH is definitely not trivial though. That's all correct. But there are some perhaps non-obvious logistical issues. For example, If you're indexing file content from multiple systems, how do you get that file content to Solr? Afaik, the index on server 1 retrieves the textual content and passes that to the central server. My confidence is not high on this. How does GSA handle this? Does it suck down the binary of your files to index it on the machine itself? To be clear - I'm not arguing GSA isn't worth it - just not agreeing with Solr being that difficult to use. :) But honestly, that's not why I think people should use GSA. They should use it because it works better. It provides better relevance. It runs faster. It has quite a bit of additional functionality. I've worked with quite a few people who migrated from Solr to GSA, and they could chew your ear off telling you about the GSA's advantages. Fair enough. Just wanted to put out there my own experiences w/ setting up Solr. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354981 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Website Search Engine
As I also recently discovered There is also the fact that with solr if one collection breaks or becomes.corrupt, solr stops working completely for every collection and every site. Regards Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine On Mar 13, 2013 7:33 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: Yes, I am! Beyond rack-mounting the GSA and initial configuration, if you simply have web content all you have to do is give the GSA your home page URL, and ... that's it. You don't have to define index repositories (which is what a Solr collection is), you don't have to But this isn't necessarily a bad thing. If you want separate search indexes (perhaps one for blog entries versus one for content) then you would want/need to do this. I assume GSA would also allow for this, but would also require configuration. Yes, you can create collections in the GSA, and use those to filter search results. Collections don't really mean the same thing in the GSA as they do in Solr or Verity - you only have one index in the GSA - but you can use collections as if they were separate indexes if you like. But going to your original point, you don't have to set that up if you don't want that, and we were specifically talking about ease of use. So, on one system, you have to create collections whether you want them or not, and on the other system, you don't. explicitly index items or schedule a time for them to be indexed - and those two items are where a lot of the complexity often ends up. Really? Assuming you have a CFC handling your persistence, it is one line in the save method, one line in delete. I just went through this with my own blog. Ok, that may be more work than nothing, but... seriously - it was 5 minutes configuration to the code. It's one line of code vs no lines of code. No lines wins! The GSA will index your content all by itself. It will optimize the crawl schedule for that content, meaning that it won't unnecessarily reindex things that haven't changed.* You don't have to optimize or Neither will Solr.;) Well, hold on a second here. There are two common approaches I see with Solr and CF apps. Either you're specifically triggering indexing when you create content, which over time causes performance degradation in Solr, or you have a scheduled reindexing process which reindexes everything. In the latter case, you're unnecessarily reindexing things that haven't changed, because it's cheaper than tracking what has changed and only reindexing that. And if you do spend the time to track what has changed, that's implementation time and effort spent. You can specify a separate Solr server in the CF Admin, and as far as I know, the cfindex/cfsearch code doesn't change at all. (To be clear though, I haven't tested this.) So if your system did move from 1 to N, it should be relative simply to also switch to one central Solr server too. That's all correct. But there are some perhaps non-obvious logistical issues. For example, If you're indexing file content from multiple systems, how do you get that file content to Solr? To be clear - I'm not arguing GSA isn't worth it - just not agreeing with Solr being that difficult to use. :) I don't think I said that Solr is that difficult to use. I just said that, overall, the GSA is easier to use (again, once the box is actually rack-mounted and given an IP address). But honestly, that's not why I think people should use GSA. They should use it because it works better. It provides better relevance. It runs faster. It has quite a bit of additional functionality. I've worked with quite a few people who migrated from Solr to GSA, and they could chew your ear off telling you about the GSA's advantages. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354982 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Website Search Engine
I haven't seen this in index updates. I know Verity needed periodic optimize calls on the collection. You can also do DIH indexing which can be configured to update things based on a SQL query and a time stamp, which would *not* mean unnecessary indexing. DIH is definitely not trivial though. You need to get some bigger collections. Then, you'll see more problems! As far as DIH goes, yeah, at that point you're interacting directly with the DB, which is more work. The GSA can do this all by itself, with regular web content that complies with standard browser-caching functionality - alas, many CF applications do not do this, but they should. That's all correct. But there are some perhaps non-obvious logistical issues. For example, If you're indexing file content from multiple systems, how do you get that file content to Solr? Afaik, the index on server 1 retrieves the textual content and passes that to the central server. My confidence is not high on this. That model relies on Solr being on both servers, though, right? How does GSA handle this? Does it suck down the binary of your files to index it on the machine itself? Yes, and it saves the file as a cached copy, which is a very useful side-effect. For example, the GSA can let the user view PDF cached copies without having a PDF viewer application on their workstations. To be clear - I'm not arguing GSA isn't worth it - just not agreeing with Solr being that difficult to use. :) But honestly, that's not why I think people should use GSA. They should use it because it works better. It provides better relevance. It runs faster. It has quite a bit of additional functionality. I've worked with quite a few people who migrated from Solr to GSA, and they could chew your ear off telling you about the GSA's advantages. Fair enough. Just wanted to put out there my own experiences w/ setting up Solr. I understand. I didn't think you were just trying to be contrary. I agree with you that Solr with CF is pretty easy to set up, if you're using it to index CF content specifically. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354983 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
CF running out of steam
-Original Message- From: Adam Cameron [mailto:adamcameroncoldfus...@gmail.com] That it is running out of steam and becoming less and less relevant as time goes on *** Why? Lack of support and innovation from Adobe? There seems to be no consensus on what should replace it. In what ways? Is it not good enough for today's web pages and data retrieval, or is it a lack of support for mobile devices? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354984 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF running out of steam
That it is running out of steam and becoming less and less relevant as time goes on *** Why? Lack of support and innovation from Adobe? There seems to be no consensus on what should replace it. In what ways? Is it not good enough for today's web pages and data retrieval, or is it a lack of support for mobile devices? I suspect the price tag has something to do with it: most programming languages are free. Plus it's closed source, which some people are hesitant about (but I think *most* people who claim to be into OSS software are actually into *free* software?) Adobe don't market it at all, so it doesn't make any in roads into sectors of the industry which don't care about OSS nor are frightened by the price tag. I also think that CF previously being marketed as a language any muppet can code in has worked against it: we've now got a lot of muppets writing really bad code, and the reputation that the language is *only* good for muppets will frighten off people who might deepen the CFML developer skill pool. This is really unfortunate for CFML, as it's a pretty handy language, and I - personally - rather enjoy working with it. But there are fewer and fewer jobs around (yes, there are *some* jobs around, but there are definitely fewer than there has been at any other point in the last ten years), because companies seem to be porting away from it. I know a lot of companies and studios that used to use CF and have moved away onto other languages, but I don't know of any traffic in the other direction, unfortunately. That's my take on it, anyhow. Opinions will vary. -- Adam ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354985 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CF running out of steam
That it is running out of steam and becoming less and less relevant as time goes on My personal opinion is that Adobe needs to rebrand it. Give it a new name that reflects its use of java and it's multi-platform deployment options. Maybe a name like JavaFusion or JMelt ... something new and modern. Rebrand and revitalize the product with a new market push focusing on portability, security, object oriented programming, etc... they need to dole it out to schools for free like there's no tomorrow and they need to improve the integration with other Adobe products like PDF and Photoshop... their shouldn't be any product on the market that could do more with image manipulation and PDF generation. I think CF is great, but it does seem like Adobe marketing, and to some point Adobe development, is asleep at the wheel. I can hear them snoring from here. Robert Harrison Director of Interactive Services ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354986 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF running out of steam
That it is running out of steam and becoming less and less relevant as time goes on *** Why? Lack of support and innovation from Adobe? There seems to be no consensus on what should replace it. In what ways? Is it not good enough for today's web pages and data retrieval, or is it a lack of support for mobile devices? I don't know if it's any of those things. But I also don't know how long it'll take for it to completely run out of steam. And it's important to remember, everything - EVERYTHING - runs out of steam eventually. I wouldn't be entirely surprised if CF outlives ASP.NET in it's recognizable current form. I also wouldn't be entirely surprised if I'm still doing some CF work ten years from now. I don't think there's all that much room for innovation in server-side programming. CF does what you need with server-side programming. But server-side application development tools are basically a commodity at this point. You can do anything with anything. There's nothing I can build in one that I can't build in another. At that point, it largely becomes a matter of personal preference. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354987 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF running out of steam
but it does seem like Adobe marketing, and to some point Adobe development, is asleep at the wheel. I can hear them snoring from here. They could start by giving CF the place it deserves on ther Web site. How many steps do we have to go through before we find a single page about CF in their site. Imagine someone who doesn't know CF and wants details about it... :-( ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354988 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Website Search Engine
That's all correct. But there are some perhaps non-obvious logistical issues. For example, If you're indexing file content from multiple systems, how do you get that file content to Solr? Afaik, the index on server 1 retrieves the textual content and passes that to the central server. My confidence is not high on this. That model relies on Solr being on both servers, though, right? My understanding (and my confidence in this statement is somewhere between unicorn and leprechaun) is that both servers use Solr just to HTTP to the central Solr service. Ie, they are only passing data to the main one for indexing. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354989 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF running out of steam
Maybe they would just Google it. ;) First link is *ColdFusion* - Adobe http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion-family.html www.adobe.com/products/*coldfusion*-family.html (pardon the ugly paste) On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 4:31 PM, wrote: but it does seem like Adobe marketing, and to some point Adobe development, is asleep at the wheel. I can hear them snoring from here. They could start by giving CF the place it deserves on ther Web site. How many steps do we have to go through before we find a single page about CF in their site. Imagine someone who doesn't know CF and wants details about it... :-( ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354990 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF running out of steam
Maybe they would just Google it. Google is a good tool but not an excuse for having a poor home page. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354991 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Website Search Engine
My understanding (and my confidence in this statement is somewhere between unicorn and leprechaun) is that both servers use Solr just to HTTP to the central Solr service. Ie, they are only passing data to the main one for indexing. You don't want to get between unicorn and leprechaun - that's just not a pretty picture. That said, so you're running Solr on both servers, and one instance has to talk to the other. That's the kind of thing that is great when it works, not so great when it doesn't (and there are many many reasons why that could fail). Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354992 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF running out of steam
I think time just stopped. I actually agree with Claude Schneegans. Holy hell. Clearly we've all entered some sort of alternate universe or something. On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 4:36 PM, wrote: Maybe they would just Google it. Google is a good tool but not an excuse for having a poor home page. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354993 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF running out of steam
Oh I think the home page is great. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion-family.html If you meant the _Adobe_ home page, I think it is great too, but I'm probably biased. ;) I can't see many coders going to adobe.com looking for random development languages. I think the audience is totally different. On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 4:36 PM, wrote: Maybe they would just Google it. Google is a good tool but not an excuse for having a poor home page. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354994 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF running out of steam
... You can do anything with anything. There's nothing I can build in one that I can't build in another. At that point, it largely becomes a matter of personal preference. I largely agree with your assessment. From many that I've spoken with the biggest challenge facing CF isn't that the language or platform is running out of steam but that newer/younger developers are not picking it up and running with it. Companies seem to be having trouble finding enough CF developers to meet demand. That, I believe, is the greatest threat to the platform. I've pitched clients on projects in CF and have lost out to developers on other platforms because the business fears that it won't be able to find anyone to support the finished product if something happens to me, or that if their business takes off they won't be able to build a large enough team to support the growing application. If anything, it's just not popular with newer developers or they've heard rumors of it being dead and don't want to waste their time. I don't have a solution to that problem, and it's a tough nut to crack, but unless the perception is changed I think that trend will continue. Having said all that, there is no shortage of CF work out there to be done. Adding other tools and technologies to your toolbelt can create new opportunities and provide a safety net as well, but for the time being CF is still my primary source of income and probably will continue to be for many years to come. -Justin ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354995 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF running out of steam
Probably true, but a menu link to the CF home page on the abode.com page under the Web Development and HTML section would be nice. There is even an empty space for it. On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.comwrote: Oh I think the home page is great. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion-family.html If you meant the _Adobe_ home page, I think it is great too, but I'm probably biased. ;) I can't see many coders going to adobe.com looking for random development languages. I think the audience is totally different. On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 4:36 PM, wrote: Maybe they would just Google it. Google is a good tool but not an excuse for having a poor home page. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354996 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF running out of steam
+ 1 *Bryan Stevenson*B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. - makers of FACTS^(TM) phone: 250.480.0642 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: br...@electricedgesystems.com mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com web: www.electricedgesystems.com http://www.electricedgesystems.com and www.fisheryfacts.com http://www.fisheryfacts.com Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail -CONFIDENTIALITY-- This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this message and attachments. On 13-03-13 02:36 PM, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans wrote: Maybe they would just Google it. Google is a good tool but not an excuse for having a poor home page. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354997 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Why is this happening??????
This has been driving me crazy for two days and I GIVE UP! AHH! If I create this variable in application.cfc: cfset application.temp_images_directory = 'e:\inetpub\webroot\tempImages' / and use it in news.cfc like this: cfset saveNewsItemStruct = structNew() cfset saveNewsItemStruct.ATID = '#application.temp_images_directory#' / why in the WORLD would I get this: e:\\inetpub\\webroot\\tempImages when I return the struct and display saveNewsItemsStruct.ATID? Why are the path lines doubling? I don't think I've seen this in 15 years of CF programming! (I'm getting too old for all this aggravation...) Thanks for any help! Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354998 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Why is this happening??????
what happens if you display the value INSIDE the cfc before you return it? what happens if you set the same variable OUTSIDE the cfc and display it? On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 9:23 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote: This has been driving me crazy for two days and I GIVE UP! AHH! If I create this variable in application.cfc: cfset application.temp_images_directory = 'e:\inetpub\webroot\tempImages' / and use it in news.cfc like this: cfset saveNewsItemStruct = structNew() cfset saveNewsItemStruct.ATID = '#application.temp_images_directory#' / why in the WORLD would I get this: e:\\inetpub\\webroot\\tempImages when I return the struct and display saveNewsItemsStruct.ATID? Why are the path lines doubling? I don't think I've seen this in 15 years of CF programming! (I'm getting too old for all this aggravation...) Thanks for any help! Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354999 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Why is this happening??????
That is the equivalent of what you would see if you ran that variable through jsStringFormat() somewhere. I'd run a quick search for that. I'd start in the app.cfc with that search to make sure you don't have a routine somewhere that cleans' your variables for you. On 3/13/13 8:23 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.com wrote: This has been driving me crazy for two days and I GIVE UP! AHH! If I create this variable in application.cfc: cfset application.temp_images_directory = 'e:\inetpub\webroot\tempImages' / and use it in news.cfc like this: cfset saveNewsItemStruct = structNew() cfset saveNewsItemStruct.ATID = '#application.temp_images_directory#' / why in the WORLD would I get this: e:\\inetpub\\webroot\\tempImages when I return the struct and display saveNewsItemsStruct.ATID? Why are the path lines doubling? I don't think I've seen this in 15 years of CF programming! (I'm getting too old for all this aggravation...) Thanks for any help! Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355000 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Why is this happening??????
If I use this on a test page: cfoutput#application.temp_images_directory#/cfoutput it comes out fine: e:\inetpub\webroot\tempImages I just don't see why (or how) it could be happening. Thanks for the feedback! Rick -Original Message- From: Jerry Milo Johnson [mailto:jmi...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 9:34 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Why is this happening?? what happens if you display the value INSIDE the cfc before you return it? what happens if you set the same variable OUTSIDE the cfc and display it? On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 9:23 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote: This has been driving me crazy for two days and I GIVE UP! AHH! If I create this variable in application.cfc: cfset application.temp_images_directory = 'e:\inetpub\webroot\tempImages' / and use it in news.cfc like this: cfset saveNewsItemStruct = structNew() cfset saveNewsItemStruct.ATID = '#application.temp_images_directory#' / why in the WORLD would I get this: e:\\inetpub\\webroot\\tempImages when I return the struct and display saveNewsItemsStruct.ATID? Why are the path lines doubling? I don't think I've seen this in 15 years of CF programming! (I'm getting too old for all this aggravation...) Thanks for any help! Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355001 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Why is this happening??????
how are you displaying it when the \ are appearing doubled? (something like a js alert, or a cfoutput to an html page, or some other mechanism?) On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 10:08 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote: If I use this on a test page: cfoutput#application.temp_images_directory#/cfoutput it comes out fine: e:\inetpub\webroot\tempImages I just don't see why (or how) it could be happening. Thanks for the feedback! Rick -Original Message- From: Jerry Milo Johnson [mailto:jmi...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 9:34 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Why is this happening?? what happens if you display the value INSIDE the cfc before you return it? what happens if you set the same variable OUTSIDE the cfc and display it? On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 9:23 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.com wrote: This has been driving me crazy for two days and I GIVE UP! AHH! If I create this variable in application.cfc: cfset application.temp_images_directory = 'e:\inetpub\webroot\tempImages' / and use it in news.cfc like this: cfset saveNewsItemStruct = structNew() cfset saveNewsItemStruct.ATID = '#application.temp_images_directory#' / why in the WORLD would I get this: e:\\inetpub\\webroot\\tempImages when I return the struct and display saveNewsItemsStruct.ATID? Why are the path lines doubling? I don't think I've seen this in 15 years of CF programming! (I'm getting too old for all this aggravation...) Thanks for any help! Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355002 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Why is this happening??????
That gives me an idea about what might be going on. I'll check into that tomorrow and let you know what I find. Thanks! Rick -Original Message- From: Bobby [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 10:57 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Why is this happening?? That is the equivalent of what you would see if you ran that variable through jsStringFormat() somewhere. I'd run a quick search for that. I'd start in the app.cfc with that search to make sure you don't have a routine somewhere that cleans' your variables for you. On 3/13/13 8:23 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.com wrote: This has been driving me crazy for two days and I GIVE UP! AHH! If I create this variable in application.cfc: cfset application.temp_images_directory = 'e:\inetpub\webroot\tempImages' / and use it in news.cfc like this: cfset saveNewsItemStruct = structNew() cfset saveNewsItemStruct.ATID = '#application.temp_images_directory#' / why in the WORLD would I get this: e:\\inetpub\\webroot\\tempImages when I return the struct and display saveNewsItemsStruct.ATID? Why are the path lines doubling? I don't think I've seen this in 15 years of CF programming! (I'm getting too old for all this aggravation...) Thanks for any help! Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355003 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CF running out of steam
It is too expensive and its main competition is free. It's not just expensive for business running their own servers, it is expensive for hosting companies too. Adobe missed the boat years ago to give it away either free or at a student price. When I talk to potential customers, none of them have heard of it and it puts up a barrier. I agree that customers worry that if I was ever not around, who could they find to help them, this loses me too many potential customers and even existing customers I have worked with for years have the same underlying concerns. Even the upgrade prices are extortionate and what we actually get in an upgrade often isn't that big a deal to MOST developers. Since version 7 the only feature I have come to need that is in a current product is EXIF extraction. There is almost a complete lack of applications in developed with CF. Look a PHP applications: phpBB, WordPress, osCommerce - here are some more:- http://blog.fedecarg.com/2008/05/22/20-most-influential-open-source-web-appl ications/ Google for Coldfusion applications:- https://www.google.co.uk/#hl=ensclient=psy-abq=copldfusion+applicationsoq =copldfusion+applicationsgs_l=hp.3..0i13l2j0i13i30j0i13i10i30.91106.93524.2 .93995.13.12.0.0.0.2.153.1513.0j12.12.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1.5.psy-ab.Xpivj0a2 0Topbx=1bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.bvm=bv.43287494,d.d2kfp=d76e512bfb3860c7b iw=1680bih=893 Don't get me wrong, I love Coldfusion, but I can't see it lasting unless Adobe do something drastic to get the ball rolling - I don't see that happening, and even if they did, it is probably too late. -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com] Sent: 14 March 2013 00:14 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CF running out of steam + 1 *Bryan Stevenson*B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. - makers of FACTS^(TM) phone: 250.480.0642 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: br...@electricedgesystems.com mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com web: www.electricedgesystems.com http://www.electricedgesystems.com and www.fisheryfacts.com http://www.fisheryfacts.com Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail -CONFIDENTIALITY-- This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this message and attachments. On 13-03-13 02:36 PM, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans wrote: Maybe they would just Google it. Google is a good tool but not an excuse for having a poor home page. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355004 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Why is this happening??????
If I create this variable in application.cfc: cfset application.temp_images_directory = 'e:\inetpub\webroot\tempImages' / and use it in news.cfc like this: cfset saveNewsItemStruct = structNew() cfset saveNewsItemStruct.ATID = '#application.temp_images_directory#' / why in the WORLD would I get this: e:\\inetpub\\webroot\\tempImages when I return the struct and display saveNewsItemsStruct.ATID? Why are the path lines doubling? I don't think I've seen this in 15 years of CF programming! (I'm getting too old for all this aggravation...) I don't know what's causing this specific problem, but you can work around it pretty easily by using forward slashes instead of backslashes. Forward slashes work fine with file paths on Windows, when used from CF. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355005 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF running out of steam
it is expensive for hosting companies too. Yep. $8,500 for CF 10 Enterprise which is really needed for shared hosting. I love CF with a passion but I have been shopping for a replacement in earnest for the last 6 months. I am learning .NET in preparation of the Impending Zombie Apocalypse. I have been in denial for far too long, Unless Railo or OBD can spark interest like that video on How to Make a blog in 15 min with Rails did, I fear that efforts at this juncture are too little and too late. Interesting observation. I noticed that the long running CF is dead conversation has moved to the acceptance phase of the five stages of grief. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model Sigh G! On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 10:56 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote: it is expensive for hosting companies too. -- Gerald Guido http://www.myinternetisbroken.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355006 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF running out of steam
I moved 77 sites from Abode CF to Railo without changing one line of code, and they are all functional and performing better than they did on ACF. YMMV. On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Gerald Guido gerald.gu...@gmail.com wrote: . I have been in denial for far too long, Unless Railo or OBD can spark interest like that video on How to Make a blog in 15 min with Rails did, I fear that efforts at this juncture are too little and too late. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355007 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Why is this happening??????
The application.temp_images_directory is being set in application.cfc: cfset application.temp_images_directory = 'e:\tempImages' / The last part of the example below, the #newImageFileName#.#originalImageExt# is being set in news.cfc, after an image has been uploaded. It's done this way to be able to manipulate the filename part before the extension, such as: #newImageFileName#_400.#originalImageExt# I'm checking it right now by setting struct variables in a cfc such as, cfset saveNewsItemStruct.APPTEMP = '#application.temp_images_directory#\#newImageFileName#_400.#originalImageExt#' / then, just returning the struct to the calling page: cfreturn saveNewsItemStruct / The saveNewsItemStruct.APPTEMP would end up looking like: e:\\temp_images\\duck_400.jpg And when I tried Dave's solution of using forward slashes, /, instead of back slashes, I'd end up with: e:\/temp_images\/duck_400.jpg I'm not sure what is inserting the backslashes. I don't believe I've ever run into this before. Rick -Original Message- From: Jerry Milo Johnson [mailto:jmi...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 10:18 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Why is this happening?? how are you displaying it when the \ are appearing doubled? (something like a js alert, or a cfoutput to an html page, or some other mechanism?) On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 10:08 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote: If I use this on a test page: cfoutput#application.temp_images_directory#/cfoutput it comes out fine: e:\inetpub\webroot\tempImages I just don't see why (or how) it could be happening. Thanks for the feedback! Rick -Original Message- From: Jerry Milo Johnson [mailto:jmi...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 9:34 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Why is this happening?? what happens if you display the value INSIDE the cfc before you return it? what happens if you set the same variable OUTSIDE the cfc and display it? On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 9:23 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.com wrote: This has been driving me crazy for two days and I GIVE UP! AHH! If I create this variable in application.cfc: cfset application.temp_images_directory = 'e:\inetpub\webroot\tempImages' / and use it in news.cfc like this: cfset saveNewsItemStruct = structNew() cfset saveNewsItemStruct.ATID = '#application.temp_images_directory#' / why in the WORLD would I get this: e:\\inetpub\\webroot\\tempImages when I return the struct and display saveNewsItemsStruct.ATID? Why are the path lines doubling? I don't think I've seen this in 15 years of CF programming! (I'm getting too old for all this aggravation...) Thanks for any help! Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355008 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Why is this happening??????
Thanks for the tip, Dave, but when I set up the application variables using forward slashes, as in: cfset application.temp_images_directory = 'e:/inetpub/webroot/tempImages' / When I use that variable with a variable for a file in the news.cfc, like this: #application.temp_images_directory#.#newFileName#.#originalFileExt# I'd end up with: e:\/inetpub\/webroot\/tempImages\/duck.jpg instead of the usual: e:\\inetpub\\webroot\\tempImages\\duck.jpg if I used forward slashes when the path variable is created. Just doesn't make sense. Can't figure out where the extra \ is being inserted. If I create this variable in application.cfc: cfset application.temp_images_directory = 'e:\inetpub\webroot\tempImages' / and use it in news.cfc like this: cfset saveNewsItemStruct = structNew() cfset saveNewsItemStruct.ATID = '#application.temp_images_directory#' / why in the WORLD would I get this: e:\\inetpub\\webroot\\tempImages when I return the struct and display saveNewsItemsStruct.ATID? Why are the path lines doubling? I don't think I've seen this in 15 years of CF programming! (I'm getting too old for all this aggravation...) I don't know what's causing this specific problem, but you can work around it pretty easily by using forward slashes instead of backslashes. Forward slashes work fine with file paths on Windows, when used from CF. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355009 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Why is this happening??????
Rick, how are you returning this structure? You haven't got some funny format turning on as the return from the CFC function by accident have you? Kym On 14/03/2013 15:49, Rick Faircloth wrote: The application.temp_images_directory is being set in application.cfc: cfset application.temp_images_directory = 'e:\tempImages' / The last part of the example below, the #newImageFileName#.#originalImageExt# is being set in news.cfc, after an image has been uploaded. It's done this way to be able to manipulate the filename part before the extension, such as: #newImageFileName#_400.#originalImageExt# I'm checking it right now by setting struct variables in a cfc such as, cfset saveNewsItemStruct.APPTEMP = '#application.temp_images_directory#\#newImageFileName#_400.#originalImageExt#' / then, just returning the struct to the calling page: cfreturn saveNewsItemStruct / The saveNewsItemStruct.APPTEMP would end up looking like: e:\\temp_images\\duck_400.jpg And when I tried Dave's solution of using forward slashes, /, instead of back slashes, I'd end up with: e:\/temp_images\/duck_400.jpg I'm not sure what is inserting the backslashes. I don't believe I've ever run into this before. Rick -Original Message- From: Jerry Milo Johnson [mailto:jmi...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 10:18 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Why is this happening?? how are you displaying it when the \ are appearing doubled? (something like a js alert, or a cfoutput to an html page, or some other mechanism?) On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 10:08 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote: If I use this on a test page: cfoutput#application.temp_images_directory#/cfoutput it comes out fine: e:\inetpub\webroot\tempImages I just don't see why (or how) it could be happening. Thanks for the feedback! Rick -Original Message- From: Jerry Milo Johnson [mailto:jmi...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 9:34 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Why is this happening?? what happens if you display the value INSIDE the cfc before you return it? what happens if you set the same variable OUTSIDE the cfc and display it? On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 9:23 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.com wrote: This has been driving me crazy for two days and I GIVE UP! AHH! If I create this variable in application.cfc: cfset application.temp_images_directory = 'e:\inetpub\webroot\tempImages' / and use it in news.cfc like this: cfset saveNewsItemStruct = structNew() cfset saveNewsItemStruct.ATID = '#application.temp_images_directory#' / why in the WORLD would I get this: e:\\inetpub\\webroot\\tempImages when I return the struct and display saveNewsItemsStruct.ATID? Why are the path lines doubling? I don't think I've seen this in 15 years of CF programming! (I'm getting too old for all this aggravation...) Thanks for any help! Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355010 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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