RE: How can I view arguments in a CFC on-screen?
When I put this inside a function of a CFC, right after thearguments declarations: cfdump var = '#arguments#' output='e:\dump.html' format='html'orcfdump var = '#arguments#' output='console' format='text' I get this error message from CF: Context validation error for the cffunction tag. The start tag must have a matching end tag. An explicit end tag can be provided by adding lt;/cffunctiongt;. If the body of the tag is empty, \you can use the shortcut lt;cffunction .../ It's as if the cfdump is causing CF not to recognize the closing /cffunction tag. Am I putting the cfdump in the wrong place in the method?Thanks!Rick To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: How can I view arguments in a CFC on-screen? Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 19:06:31 -0400 From: dswit...@pengoworks.com Use the step debugger. On Monday, April 1, 2013, Russ Michaels wrote: Dump them all to a file, then view the file. Regards Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine On Apr 1, 2013 6:36 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comjavascript:; wrote: I wouldn't think this would be that difficult! Normally, I would include variables in a struct (when I'm using AJAX, whichis almost always) and view the variables when they're returned to the calling page. However, there are times, like right now, when I just want to have a look at allthe argument variables that a CFC is receiving and verify their accuracy. Isn't there an easy way to do this? I'm using CF 9. Thanks! Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355222 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: How can I view arguments in a CFC on-screen?
The way I finally got to view the arguments sent to the CFC methodwas by simply assigning the arguments to the struct I created: cfset authorizeStruct = structNew() / cfset authorizeStruct.ARGUMENTS = '#arguments#' / cfreturn authorizeStruct / That put a halt to all further processing in the method, which is good,and sent back the name pairs in JSON so I could view them in the console. From: r...@whitestonemedia.com To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: How can I view arguments in a CFC on-screen? Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 10:39:18 -0400 When I put this inside a function of a CFC, right after the arguments declarations: cfdump var = '#arguments#' output='e:\dump.html' format='html' or cfdump var = '#arguments#' output='console' format='text' I get this error message from CF: Context validation error for the cffunction tag. The start tag must have a matching end tag. An explicit end tag can be provided by adding lt;/cffunctiongt;. If the body of the tag is empty, \you can use the shortcut lt;cffunction .../ It's as if the cfdump is causing CF not to recognize the closing /cffunction tag. Am I putting the cfdump in the wrong place in the method?Thanks!Rick To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: How can I view arguments in a CFC on-screen? Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 19:06:31 -0400 From: dswit...@pengoworks.com Use the step debugger. On Monday, April 1, 2013, Russ Michaels wrote: Dump them all to a file, then view the file. Regards Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine On Apr 1, 2013 6:36 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comjavascript:; wrote: I wouldn't think this would be that difficult! Normally, I would include variables in a struct (when I'm using AJAX, whichis almost always) and view the variables when they're returned to the calling page. However, there are times, like right now, when I just want to have a look at allthe argument variables that a CFC is receiving and verify their accuracy. Isn't there an easy way to do this? I'm using CF 9. Thanks! Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355223 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
CF sandbox security
Is CF sandbox security intended to secure the application runtime environment or is it intended to secure directory and folder access during development when developers upload and access files? Or is it intended for both? For example, are sandboxes the way to go if we want to restrict a developer's access to certain directories during development so he cannot damage files in other folks' directories? I ask because we are weighing FTP vs RDS for uploading files to our servers. Thanks! George ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355224 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF sandbox security
A sandbox restricts acces to folders, tags,.functions, ports,.datasources, etc Also allows you to sandbox rds users. Ftp will only allow you to restrict what folders someone can upload files to, which is pointless if they have full system access via cfml and rds. So you definitely need tp use a sandbox. Regards Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine On Apr 2, 2013 6:10 PM, Earl, George george.e...@ssa.gov wrote: Is CF sandbox security intended to secure the application runtime environment or is it intended to secure directory and folder access during development when developers upload and access files? Or is it intended for both? For example, are sandboxes the way to go if we want to restrict a developer's access to certain directories during development so he cannot damage files in other folks' directories? I ask because we are weighing FTP vs RDS for uploading files to our servers. Thanks! George ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355225 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Now() offset by 1 hour
Hi, Since the clocks went forward in GMT the now() function is returning an incorrect time (-1 hour to what the server clock reads). I have searched over the internet and found several references to this but not solution. Has anyone found a way to fix? I am using CF9 Thanks Richard ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355226 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Now() offset by 1 hour
This could be caused by an old JVM version. Which version JVM are you running? Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Apr 2, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Richard White rich...@re-base.net wrote: Hi, Since the clocks went forward in GMT the now() function is returning an incorrect time (-1 hour to what the server clock reads). I have searched over the internet and found several references to this but not solution. Has anyone found a way to fix? I am using CF9 Thanks Richard ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355227 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Now() offset by 1 hour
Hi Will, thanks for your suggestion i just updated to the latest JVM 7, update 17. No change unfortunately This could be caused by an old JVM version. Which version JVM are you running? Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Apr 2, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Richard White rich...@re-base.net wrote: ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355228 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Now() offset by 1 hour
On rare occasion I've had a JVM refuse to get onto the correct timezone, while new and having the correct timezone data and the server having the correct timezone data and even reporting the correct time. 1. Make sure the JVM is reporting the correct timezone. 2. if its not, you can force it with this JVM arg in jvm.config -Duser.timezone=America/New_York If it's reporting the correct timezone, then I think we need to start looking for bugs with JVM 1.7. Unsure about that though. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Apr 2, 2013, at 1:03 PM, Richard White rich...@re-base.net wrote: Hi Will, thanks for your suggestion i just updated to the latest JVM 7, update 17. No change unfortunately This could be caused by an old JVM version. Which version JVM are you running? Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Apr 2, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Richard White rich...@re-base.net wrote: ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355229 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Now() offset by 1 hour
Yes, it is reporting the correct timezone. I have tried forcing the change to a different timezone, restarting the server and changing it back again but it is still reporting the incorrect time. It could well be a bug in 1.7 although I thought others may have reporting this too yet haven't seen anything. On rare occasion I've had a JVM refuse to get onto the correct timezone, while new and having the correct timezone data and the server having the correct timezone data and even reporting the correct time. 1. Make sure the JVM is reporting the correct timezone. 2. if its not, you can force it with this JVM arg in jvm.config -Duser.timezone=America/New_York If it's reporting the correct timezone, then I think we need to start looking for bugs with JVM 1.7. Unsure about that though. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Apr 2, 2013, at 1:03 PM, Richard White rich...@re-base.net wrote: Hi Will, thanks for your suggestion i just updated to the latest JVM 7, update 17. No change unfortunately This could be caused by an old JVM version. Which version JVM are you running? Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Apr 2, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Richard White rich...@re-base.net wrote: ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355230 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Now() offset by 1 hour
It may be worth double checking that you are using the version you think you are using: This will tell you: #CreateObject(java, java.lang.System).getProperty(java.version)# On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Richard White rich...@re-base.net wrote: Hi Will, thanks for your suggestion i just updated to the latest JVM 7, update 17. No change unfortunately This could be caused by an old JVM version. Which version JVM are you running? Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Apr 2, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Richard White rich...@re-base.net wrote: ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355231 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Now() offset by 1 hour
Just verified it's reporting GMT time correctly for me on 1.7. -- Adam On 3 April 2013 07:23, Richard White rich...@re-base.net wrote: It could well be a bug in 1.7 although I thought others may have reporting this too yet haven't seen anything. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355232 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Now() offset by 1 hour
Thanks guys. After running this code I can see I am running 1.6 Please excuse my ignorance but i have been searching on how to upgrade to 1.7 and have found no instructions on where to download it or upgrade. I have downloaded the JVM 7 Update 17 but it appears this isnt the same thing thanks for any guidance It may be worth double checking that you are using the version you think you are using: This will tell you: #CreateObject(java, java.lang.System).getProperty(java.version)# ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355233 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Now() offset by 1 hour
Download it here and install. http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html I keep my JVM Install for ColdFusion separate from the default Java that the OS is using. Typically I change the default location of the install to be in a top level folder named /java/ So c:\Java or D: java on Windows. On Linux I use the /opt folder because ColdFusion is installed in /opt so it would be /opt/java/ Then you need to edit your jvm.config file and point the java.home= to the new path of your newly installed JVM. Be sure to backup your jvm.config. So the JVM config line might look something like this. You'll have to make sure you get the path correct for your OS. java.home=C:/java/jvm_16xxx/jre Regards, Wil Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Apr 2, 2013, at 3:26 PM, Richard White rich...@re-base.net wrote: Thanks guys. After running this code I can see I am running 1.6 Please excuse my ignorance but i have been searching on how to upgrade to 1.7 and have found no instructions on where to download it or upgrade. I have downloaded the JVM 7 Update 17 but it appears this isnt the same thing thanks for any guidance It may be worth double checking that you are using the version you think you are using: This will tell you: #CreateObject(java, java.lang.System).getProperty(java.version)# ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355234 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Now() offset by 1 hour
That still may not be your problem. This has been fixed since 1.4.2_11 http://helpx.adobe.com/coldfusion/kb/coldfusion-mx-jrun-suns-jvm.html -Cameron On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Richard White rich...@re-base.net wrote: Thanks guys. After running this code I can see I am running 1.6 Please excuse my ignorance but i have been searching on how to upgrade to 1.7 and have found no instructions on where to download it or upgrade. I have downloaded the JVM 7 Update 17 but it appears this isnt the same thing thanks for any guidance It may be worth double checking that you are using the version you think you are using: This will tell you: #CreateObject(java, java.lang.System).getProperty(java.version)# ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355235 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Now() offset by 1 hour
I have downloaded the latest version although when I amend the jvm.config and attempt to restart CF it does not restart correctly, very odd! Download it here and install. http://www.oracle. com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html I keep my JVM Install for ColdFusion separate from the default Java that the OS is using. Typically I change the default location of the install to be in a top level folder named /java/ So c:\Java or D: java on Windows. On Linux I use the /opt folder because ColdFusion is installed in /opt so it would be /opt/java/ Then you need to edit your jvm.config file and point the java.home= to the new path of your newly installed JVM. Be sure to backup your jvm.config. So the JVM config line might look something like this. You'll have to make sure you get the path correct for your OS. java.home=C:/java/jvm_16xxx/jre Regards, Wil Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Apr 2, 2013, at 3:26 PM, Richard White rich...@re-base.net wrote: Thanks guys. After running this code I can see I am running 1.6 Please excuse my ignorance but i have been searching on how to upgrade to 1.7 and have found no instructions on where to download it or upgrade. I have downloaded the JVM 7 Update 17 but it appears this isnt the same thing thanks for any guidance It may be worth double checking that you are using the version you think you are using: This will tell you: #CreateObject(java, java.lang.System).getProperty(java. version)# ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355236 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Now() offset by 1 hour
Which version of ColdFusion are you using? All you said was 9. 9 and 9.0.1 with NO updates will not work on JVM 7. You need to fully update/patch ColdFusion 9. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Apr 2, 2013, at 4:22 PM, Richard White rich...@re-base.net wrote: I have downloaded the latest version although when I amend the jvm.config and attempt to restart CF it does not restart correctly, very odd! Download it here and install. http://www.oracle. com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html I keep my JVM Install for ColdFusion separate from the default Java that the OS is using. Typically I change the default location of the install to be in a top level folder named /java/ So c:\Java or D: java on Windows. On Linux I use the /opt folder because ColdFusion is installed in /opt so it would be /opt/java/ Then you need to edit your jvm.config file and point the java.home= to the new path of your newly installed JVM. Be sure to backup your jvm.config. So the JVM config line might look something like this. You'll have to make sure you get the path correct for your OS. java.home=C:/java/jvm_16xxx/jre Regards, Wil Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Apr 2, 2013, at 3:26 PM, Richard White rich...@re-base.net wrote: Thanks guys. After running this code I can see I am running 1.6 Please excuse my ignorance but i have been searching on how to upgrade to 1.7 and have found no instructions on where to download it or upgrade. I have downloaded the JVM 7 Update 17 but it appears this isnt the same thing thanks for any guidance It may be worth double checking that you are using the version you think you are using: This will tell you: #CreateObject(java, java.lang.System).getProperty(java. version)# ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355237 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Now() offset by 1 hour
Yes, looks like i need to update. Thanks Wil Which version of ColdFusion are you using? All you said was 9. 9 and 9.0.1 with NO updates will not work on JVM 7. You need to fully update/patch ColdFusion 9. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Apr 2, 2013, at 4:22 PM, Richard White rich...@re-base.net wrote: I have downloaded the latest version although when I amend the jvm. config and attempt to restart CF it does not restart correctly, very odd! Download it here and install. http://www.oracle. com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html I keep my JVM Install for ColdFusion separate from the default Java that the OS is using. Typically I change the default location of the install to be in a top level folder named /java/ So c:\Java or D: java on Windows. On Linux I use the /opt folder because ColdFusion is installed in /opt so it would be /opt/java/ Then you need to edit your jvm.config file and point the java. home= to the new path of your newly installed JVM. Be sure to backup your jvm.config. So the JVM config line might look something like this. You'll have to make sure you get the path correct for your OS. java.home=C:/java/jvm_16xxx/jre Regards, Wil Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Apr 2, 2013, at 3:26 PM, Richard White rich...@re-base.net wrote: Thanks guys. After running this code I can see I am running 1.6 Please excuse my ignorance but i have been searching on how to upgrade to 1.7 and have found no instructions on where to download it or upgrade. I have downloaded the JVM 7 Update 17 but it appears this isnt the same thing thanks for any guidance It may be worth double checking that you are using the version you think you are using: This will tell you: #CreateObject(java, java.lang.System).getProperty(java. version)# ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355238 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF sandbox security
Is CF sandbox security intended to secure the application runtime environment or is it intended to secure directory and folder access during development when developers upload and access files? Or is it intended for both? Sandbox security and developer-specific CF Admin/RDS logins together do both of these things. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355239 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
