Re: CF Builder 3

2015-01-10 Thread Rob Voyle

Hi Steve
I use cfbuilder 3 on my local development of applications (Win 7 machine).
Having migrated from using Homesite (which I still use for its ease of extended 
find/replace across entire web projects)

I am not very impressed with cfbuilder. It could be very useful and has some 
promise but I would not pay money for it again, and if you already have a 
template editor you like don't waste your time trying to get a free version 
working.

While you can select a range of editor preferences color coding etc. You will 
have 
varying and frustrating results with many preferences not sticking after you 
close 
and reopen the program.

The syntax error reporting and color coding is insanely erroneous and unhelpful.

Many of these bugs have had multiple bug reports made at Adobe but nothing 
has been done

The built in FTP is so complex to setup, I gave up and went back to an external 
FileZilla program.

For a relative beginner to the deeper complexity and power of CF (despite 
having 
used it for many years) I found it very difficult to find the settings that 
control 
many of the preferences. Seemed like I am using confusion builder rather than 
coldfusion builder

Rob
Robert J. Voyle, Psy.D.
Director, Clergy Leadership Institute
For Coaching and Training in Appreciative Inquiry
Author: Restoring Hope: Appreciative Strategies
to Resolve Grief and Resentment
http://www.appreciativeway.com/
503-647-2378 or 503-647-2382
  

 

 

On 6 Jan 2015 at 18:18, Steve LaBadie wrote:

 
 We just purchased CF 11 and we also received a license for Builder
 3. I don't know anything about the product and wanted to know if it
 something that should be installed. Does it get installed on the
 server or desktop?



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Re: CF Builder 3-2

2015-01-10 Thread Rob Voyle

Hi Steve

One other thing if you are using a windows platform.
CF11 is now built on Tomcat. Not much of a problem EXCEPT that some (but not 
all) file names will be case sensitive in some applications. Wasted a day on 
that 
one trying to debug an application that had worked fine on CF9.

Rob 

On 6 Jan 2015 at 18:18, Steve LaBadie wrote:

 
 We just purchased CF 11 and we also received a license for Builder
 3. I don't know anything about the product and wanted to know if it
 something that should be installed. Does it get installed on the
 server or desktop?



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RE: CF Builder 3-2

2015-01-10 Thread Steve LaBadie

Thanks Ron i didn't know that cf11 could be case sensitive.


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 Original message 
From: Rob Voyle
Date:01/10/2015 12:30 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF Builder 3-2


Hi Steve

One other thing if you are using a windows platform.
CF11 is now built on Tomcat. Not much of a problem EXCEPT that some (but not
all) file names will be case sensitive in some applications. Wasted a day on 
that
one trying to debug an application that had worked fine on CF9.

Rob

On 6 Jan 2015 at 18:18, Steve LaBadie wrote:


 We just purchased CF 11 and we also received a license for Builder
 3. I don't know anything about the product and wanted to know if it
 something that should be installed. Does it get installed on the
 server or desktop?





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2015-01-10 Thread Michael Dinowitz

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Thanks
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Re: CF Builder 3

2015-01-10 Thread Russ Michaels

I have tried out a few editors and stuck with sublime as my general all
round text editor. But the tag/function insight and completion for cfml is
not complete and unless you know every attribute of every tag and function
then you have to resort to docs.
I have to say I still have a preference for Dreamweaver, it still does a
good job even in the code editor.


On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 17:52 PM, John M Bliss bliss.j...@gmail.com wrote:


I'll add: while you're checking stuff out, be sure to check out:
http://brackets.io  Has a CFML extension, is super-fast  lightweight, has
great find-and-replace, and has amazing front-end dev tools.

On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 12:23 PM, Rob Voyle robvo...@voyle.com
javascript:; wrote:


 Hi Steve
 I use cfbuilder 3 on my local development of applications (Win 7 machine).
 Having migrated from using Homesite (which I still use for its ease of
 extended
 find/replace across entire web projects)

 I am not very impressed with cfbuilder. It could be very useful and has
 some
 promise but I would not pay money for it again, and if you already have a
 template editor you like don't waste your time trying to get a free
version
 working.

 While you can select a range of editor preferences color coding etc. You
 will have
 varying and frustrating results with many preferences not sticking after
 you close
 and reopen the program.

 The syntax error reporting and color coding is insanely erroneous and
 unhelpful.

 Many of these bugs have had multiple bug reports made at Adobe but nothing
 has been done

 The built in FTP is so complex to setup, I gave up and went back to an
 external
 FileZilla program.

 For a relative beginner to the deeper complexity and power of CF (despite
 having
 used it for many years) I found it very difficult to find the settings
 that control
 many of the preferences. Seemed like I am using confusion builder rather
 than
 coldfusion builder

 Rob
 Robert J. Voyle, Psy.D.
 Director, Clergy Leadership Institute
 For Coaching and Training in Appreciative Inquiry
 Author: Restoring Hope: Appreciative Strategies
 to Resolve Grief and Resentment
 http://www.appreciativeway.com/
 503-647-2378 or 503-647-2382






 On 6 Jan 2015 at 18:18, Steve LaBadie wrote:

 
  We just purchased CF 11 and we also received a license for Builder
  3. I don't know anything about the product and wanted to know if it
  something that should be installed. Does it get installed on the
  server or desktop?







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Re: CF Builder 3

2015-01-10 Thread John M Bliss

I'll add: while you're checking stuff out, be sure to check out:
http://brackets.io  Has a CFML extension, is super-fast  lightweight, has
great find-and-replace, and has amazing front-end dev tools.

On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 12:23 PM, Rob Voyle robvo...@voyle.com wrote:


 Hi Steve
 I use cfbuilder 3 on my local development of applications (Win 7 machine).
 Having migrated from using Homesite (which I still use for its ease of
 extended
 find/replace across entire web projects)

 I am not very impressed with cfbuilder. It could be very useful and has
 some
 promise but I would not pay money for it again, and if you already have a
 template editor you like don't waste your time trying to get a free version
 working.

 While you can select a range of editor preferences color coding etc. You
 will have
 varying and frustrating results with many preferences not sticking after
 you close
 and reopen the program.

 The syntax error reporting and color coding is insanely erroneous and
 unhelpful.

 Many of these bugs have had multiple bug reports made at Adobe but nothing
 has been done

 The built in FTP is so complex to setup, I gave up and went back to an
 external
 FileZilla program.

 For a relative beginner to the deeper complexity and power of CF (despite
 having
 used it for many years) I found it very difficult to find the settings
 that control
 many of the preferences. Seemed like I am using confusion builder rather
 than
 coldfusion builder

 Rob
 Robert J. Voyle, Psy.D.
 Director, Clergy Leadership Institute
 For Coaching and Training in Appreciative Inquiry
 Author: Restoring Hope: Appreciative Strategies
 to Resolve Grief and Resentment
 http://www.appreciativeway.com/
 503-647-2378 or 503-647-2382






 On 6 Jan 2015 at 18:18, Steve LaBadie wrote:

 
  We just purchased CF 11 and we also received a license for Builder
  3. I don't know anything about the product and wanted to know if it
  something that should be installed. Does it get installed on the
  server or desktop?



 

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Re: CF Builder 3

2015-01-10 Thread Andrew Scott

On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 4:23 AM, Rob Voyle robvo...@voyle.com wrote:


 Hi Steve
 I use cfbuilder 3 on my local development of applications (Win 7 machine).
 Having migrated from using Homesite (which I still use for its ease of
 extended
 find/replace across entire web projects)


​The find/replace is very simple in Builder, in fact I would go as far as
to say its better than Homesite/Studio (which was way better than Homesite)​



 While you can select a range of editor preferences color coding etc. You
 will have
 varying and frustrating results with many preferences not sticking after
 you close
 and reopen the program.


​Can't say I have this problem, I have custom colors/fonts etc., with no
issues what so ever.​



 The syntax error reporting and color coding is insanely erroneous and
 unhelpful.


​This is an Eclipse feature that CF Builder leverages off, this really
needs better work and customization options.​



 Many of these bugs have had multiple bug reports made at Adobe but nothing
 has been done

 The built in FTP is so complex to setup, I gave up and went back to an
 external
 FileZilla program.


​Actually it is not that complicated to set up at all, not sure why you
think that.​ But personally, I use Scooter's Beyond Compare. When pushing
changes on a daily basis with many other changes not approved. One really
needs a better sync program to do that. Relying on just using FTP can be a
asking for trouble, especially if you have many changes and some should not
be pushed.



 For a relative beginner to the deeper complexity and power of CF (despite
 having
 used it for many years) I found it very difficult to find the settings
 that control
 many of the preferences. Seemed like I am using confusion builder rather
 than
 coldfusion builder


​That is an issue with Eclipse and not ColdFusion Builder, but it can be
very powerful IDE if used right and Adobe get their act together and make
it that way.​

​

Regards,
Andrew Scott
WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
​


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