custom tag for simulating a query
Does anyone know of a custom tag for simulating a query? Bonnie E. Betts www.bettsIT.com 703.508.9766 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: custom tag for simulating a queryOops,......... found it
Thanks anyways, found it... http://www.halhelms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=code.detail Bonnie E. Betts www.bettsIT.com 703.508.9766 - Original Message - From: Bonnie E. Betts To: CF-Talk Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 4:54 PM Subject: custom tag for simulating a query Does anyone know of a custom tag for simulating a query? Bonnie E. Betts www.bettsIT.com 703.508.9766 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
Is it possible.............?
*Sigh* I've been asked if it is possible to run two different versions of CF on a server. I said no but I would ask. Background is they ran into troubles with 4.5 apps not working in 5.0 (not sure what past cfgrid probs, but...) They want to run 4.5 and 5.0 on the same server AND in a pool (cluster) of servers. Win2k, IIS5.CF4.5 5.0(?) Is this possible? Is it a sheer nightmare? Should I bother to hit this send button? Bonnie E. Betts www.bettsIT.com 703.508.9766 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
Re: ArcIMS and Cold Fusion
I've been looking at the ESRI site and can't seem to find where they discuss using ColdFusion with ArcIMS. I would be grateful if you could point me as I've got several projects coming up and I would LUV to switch them from ASP to CF. Does anyone on this list have experience with ArcIMS and Cold Fusion? I am have several intranet sites deployed w/cf5 2 w/cfmx. curious about how nicely the product plays with CF, and whether or not it cf is supposed to be ESRI's web language of choice for arcIMS deployments can be used on Web apps 'out-of-the-box'. Do the 'connectors' require a lot of customization? yes, you can just let it rip with the html/js viewer you're done. the connectors don't require much customization but if you're serious you have to learn use AXL. __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Re[2]: ArcIMS and Cold Fusion
Ok I realize now I meant to ask if anyone has used RouteMap IMS in CF? All I can find on the site is about ASP Bonnie - Original Message - From: Critter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 2:40 PM Subject: Re[2]: ArcIMS and Cold Fusion oi Paul!! here's one of our old ones. written with cfm : http://maps.terraverge.com/chatham/ /me pisses on html viewer -- Critz Macromedia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer CFX_BotMaster Network=Efnet Channel=ColdFusion Thursday, September 19, 2002, 12:07:26 PM, you wrote: http://www.hud.gov/offices/cio/emaps/index.cfm PH oops. this puppy is actually driven by aspfig leaf asleep at the wheel PH ;-) PH __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
QUESTION: how to limit uploading files with large filesize
I need to limit the size of the files users are uploading onto my server. I'm using straight input type of file on the form and then cffile to upload. I've read up on cffile and it seems that AFTER I've uploaded I can use the parameter of filesize but then that's a bit too late. tia Bonnie __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: QUESTION: how to limit uploading files with large filesize
Thanks. Bonnie E. Betts [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.bettsIT.com 703.508.9766 - Original Message - From: Howie Hamlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 2:10 PM Subject: Re: QUESTION: how to limit uploading files with large filesize You can't make a limit on this. A file is transmitted to the server via the web server and there's no way to control the file size uploaded. Regards, -- Howie Hamlin - inFusion Project Manager On-Line Data Solutions, Inc. - www.CoolFusion.com - 631-737-4668 x101 *** Please vote for iMS here: http://www.sys-con.com/coldfusion/readerschoice2002/nominationform.cfm *** inFusion Mail Server (iMS) - The Award-winning, Intelligent Mail Server Find out how iMS Stacks up to the competition: http://www.coolfusion.com/imssecomparison.cfm - Original Message - From: Bonnie E. Betts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 4:33 PM Subject: QUESTION: how to limit uploading files with large filesize I need to limit the size of the files users are uploading onto my server. I'm using straight input type of file on the form and then cffile to upload. I've read up on cffile and it seems that AFTER I've uploaded I can use the parameter of filesize but then that's a bit too late. tia Bonnie __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: QUESTION: how to limit uploading files with large filesize
Great! Yes I would be interested! Bonnie E. Betts [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.bettsIT.com 703.508.9766 - Original Message - From: jon hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 2:52 PM Subject: Re: QUESTION: how to limit uploading files with large filesize You can't do this with CF. You can do it with javascript, or move to a java applet or activeX control for file uploading. Javascript is the easiest way, but it won't work in NS4 because of their security model. Works on most browsers though. I've got some source code laying around somewhere that does this, let me know if you are interested. Massimo Foti also has a DW extension that does this also. -- jon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thursday, September 12, 2002, 4:33:28 PM, you wrote: BEB I need to limit the size of the files users are uploading onto my server. I'm using straight input type of file on the form and then cffile to upload. I've read up on cffile and it seems that BEB AFTER I've uploaded I can use the parameter of filesize but then that's a bit too late. BEB tia BEB Bonnie __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: QUESTION: how to limit uploading files with large filesize
Good lead, I'll play with it. Thanks. Bonnie E. Betts [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.bettsIT.com 703.508.9766 - Original Message - From: Everett, Al [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 2:15 PM Subject: RE: QUESTION: how to limit uploading files with large filesize You can try using CGI.CONTENT_LENGTH to get a general idea of the size of the file being uploaded. It won't be exact, since all of the HTTP header information is included in that number, but it'll give you a ballpark figure. -Original Message- From: Bonnie E. Betts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 4:33 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: QUESTION: how to limit uploading files with large filesize I need to limit the size of the files users are uploading onto my server. I'm using straight input type of file on the form and then cffile to upload. I've read up on cffile and it seems that AFTER I've uploaded I can use the parameter of filesize but then that's a bit too late. __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Women programmers
I think I asked about this a year or two ago, but are more women getting
into hardcore programming, or at least, developing (hehe)?
{feminine} Yes!
web design was dominated by guys (no stats, just almost sure it was that
way), and now I'm bumpin into all these women designers.
Now you're saying design (if you mean graphics, I consider that different
skills from hardcore programming). What I've seen is most women who are in
web work (hehe how's that for tackling the label?) are more in the design
aspect of things or content or management. I personally am more into
database, scripting, programming, architecture {insert preferred terms for
coding, scripting, etc. here}. I actually find it really annoying when I
walk in new to a team and get the assumption that I'm there to make the
application look pretty or design/develop the GUI.
- Original Message -
From: Phoeun Pha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:39 AM
Subject: Women programmers
A few years ago
I guess it was
inevitable... they're always painting the room pink and shops better
clothes
for you than you do! :)
So will we see that trend in programming to?
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Question: Where is the area on MM comparable to the Allaire Knowledgebase?? looking for cfcontent reference
*Please excuse the tone of sheer frustration* I'm trying to search for some details on using CFCONTENT. Where's the knowledgebase!??? I went to support, CF, checked out Documentation and it's all a bunch of pdf files! Is THAT what replaced knowledgebase??? Yikes! I gotta download and read alla this to find the reference?? So I type cfcontent into the search and then I get every listing of hot fixes, any mention ever in history of cfcontent. :-( Does anyone have a reference link for cfcontent? Is the Knowledgebase dead and gone forever? Are pdfs the only reference we're going to get from a WEB development company? Did Macromedia keep ANYONE from Allaire that understands programmers??? (Ok, that last comment really does show the frustration, eh?) Bonnie __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Women programmers
*makes Ben's coffee and spits in it* *then sweetly smiles and hands it to him* - Original Message - From: Ben Arledge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:38 PM Subject: RE: Women programmers hey... well someone has to make the coffee *runs and ducks* :) Ben -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Women programmers not to mention, the eye candy factor increase ;) .tony Tony Weeg Senior Web Developer Information System Design Navtrak, Inc. Fleet Management Solutions www.navtrak.net 410.548.2337 -Original Message- From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:09 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Women programmers women are good. :) w -Original Message- From: Robyn Follen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 29 August 2002 16:49 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Women programmers 3 of the 8 people on my dev team are women (myself included)... and the battle of the sexes is alive and well in our office! :-) -Original Message- From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Women programmers I think I asked about this a year or two ago, but are more women getting into hardcore programming, or at least, developing (hehe)? A few years ago web design was dominated by guys (no stats, just almost sure it was that way), and now I'm bumpin into all these women designers. I guess it was inevitable... they're always painting the room pink and shops better clothes for you than you do! :) So will we see that trend in programming to? __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Women programmers
Ya know, there are probably some male designers out there really insulted right now that design and GUI are being stereotyped as a feminine skill...hm, just a thought. Bonnie - Original Message - From: Brian Scandale [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:41 PM Subject: RE: Women programmers To tell ya the truth... I look forward to that perspective and I tap into it wherever I can find it... because my apps are just damned U G L Y without it. I love the sisters! At 10:04 AM 8/29/02, you wrote: Amen goes there, sister! Susan H. Allen Pfinsten Publishing, L.L.C. Cleveland, Ohio I actually find it really annoying when I walk in new to a team and get the assumption that I'm there to make the application look pretty or design/develop the GUI. - Original Message - From: Phoeun Pha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:39 AM Subject: Women programmers A few years ago I guess it was inevitable... they're always painting the room pink and shops better clothes for you than you do! :) So will we see that trend in programming to? __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: programmer vs. developer
So if you have two people... equally qualified, equal personalities, equal in every way except one goes fishing and one likes to program in his spare time... who would you choose. The short and simple answer to that question is the guy at home... if for no reason other than he doesn't have to dock the boat before logging into the server to fix the problem code that only rears it's head on the weekends. ;-) I would put up for consideration that maybe the one that is coding on weeknights and weekends might not have softskills that I need or might be(come) a disgruntled employee. A person who programs days, nights and weekends might indicate negative things such as they don't have people skills or they're unable to perform in non-coding functions or they're neglecting personal goals, needs and relationships. If you don't need the people you hire to work in a team environment or wear more than one hat, maybe that's ok for you. Although I would again say that hiring people and expecting them to NOT have a balanced life is asking for dissastisfied employees and low morale and high turnover. BUT .. I say alla that and I code days, nights and weekends G. (GAWD I need a life!) Bonnie __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Help with cfcontent
I've not seen my questions on the MM Knowledgebase or cfcontent go thru yet so I'm trying again. I am trying to make files available for users to download and I'm using cffile and cfcontent. I don't see a filetype for an MS Access file or for a PowerPoint file. I can't just provide direct links to the files as we're in a clustered environment. Any help would be appreciated. Also, what filetype can I use for web images? Is there a generic one? Is the x-rgb the generic? Same question for video and audio files.. tia Bonnie (who is praying this post or the others gets to the list soon) __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Question: Where is the area on MM comparable to the Allaire Knowledgebase?? looking for cfcontent reference
Thanks Todd. Still can't seem to find the details though. I'm wondering if there is a generic file type for say images that will cover all jpgs or gifs or will I have to do a test for both. I'm really dreading the video and audio formats if there's no generic video format file/MIME type Bonnie E. Betts [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.bettsIT.com 703.508.9766 - Original Message - From: Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:11 PM Subject: Re: Question: Where is the area on MM comparable to the Allaire Knowledgebase?? looking for cfcontent reference The Livedocs: http://livedocs.macromedia.com/cfmxdocs/ CFCONTENT: http://livedocs.macromedia.com/cfmxdocs/CFML_Reference/Tags-pt118.jsp#285076 0 Knowledgebase (w/ search): http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ At 03:10 PM 8/29/2002 -0400, you wrote: *Please excuse the tone of sheer frustration* I'm trying to search for some details on using CFCONTENT. Where's the knowledgebase!??? I went to support, CF, checked out Documentation and it's all a bunch of pdf files! Is THAT what replaced knowledgebase??? Yikes! I gotta download and read alla this to find the reference?? So I type cfcontent into the search and then I get every listing of hot fixes, any mention ever in history of cfcontent. :-( Does anyone have a reference link for cfcontent? Is the Knowledgebase dead and gone forever? Are pdfs the only reference we're going to get from a WEB development company? Did Macromedia keep ANYONE from Allaire that understands programmers??? (Ok, that last comment really does show the frustration, eh?) Bonnie Todd Rafferty ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.web-rat.com/ Team Macromedia Volunteer for ColdFusion http://www.macromedia.com/support/forums/team_macromedia/ Moderator @ FlashCFM.com - http://www.flashCFM.com/ Back-end Moderator @ Ultrashock.com - http://www.ultrashock.com/ __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: programmer vs. developer
Ha! I'm all for prograloper!! G Bonnie E. Betts [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.bettsIT.com - Original Message - From: Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 3:01 PM Subject: RE: programmer vs. developer that was the funniest thing i have read today!!! well dont Marius ;) tw -Original Message- From: Marius Milosav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 4:17 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: programmer vs. developer What about a new term: develogrammer or prograloper For sure will impress managers looking for new buzzwords Marius Milosav www.scorpiosoft.com It's not about technology, it's about people. Virtual Company (VICO) Application Demo www.scorpiosoft.com/vicodemo/login.cfm - Original Message - From: Tangorre, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 2:22 PM Subject: RE: programmer vs. developer Thanks MOTO :-) -Original Message- From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 1:54 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: programmer vs. developer A developer developes, a programmer programs. -Original Message- From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 August 2002 18:42 To: CF-Talk Subject: programmer vs. developer whats the difference? __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: cf server Win98 pws problem
Did you ever get this working? I had a rotten time of it with my Win98 and the singleserver CF5.0. NO one at the CFUN02 including Macromedia people could help me and no one had heard of such a situation. It became apparent that if the CF servers loaded on startup, it conflicted with other programs in the win98 OS (like IE and Outlook Express6). I ended up having to disable the servers from automatically loading and making sure that IE loads first (I put IE into startup). Otherwise I would end up with CF code showing in my pages and missing graphics, other weird stuff, etc. Not that I want anyone else to enjoy the misery I had with that situation, but at least now I know I'm not crazy! Bonnie E. Betts [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.bettsIT.com 703.508.9766 - Original Message - From: Paul Ihrig [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 12:53 PM Subject: cf server Win98 pws problem ok so i go to a clients to set up a local host version of there site on one of there machines instal pws, mdac then cf server 5, single ip version now the server shows as running i can browse ant local htm docs but it will not render any cfm pages. the cfm's srent even hitting a datasource is there any thing that i could look at to get cf to work? i have set this same thing up like 5 other times with no problems... ideas?? thanks -paul __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CFMX best practices and Imaging Lib
Nice site! I want to add to the comment on the font: Why so tiny!? Bonnie E. Betts [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.bettsIT.com 703.508.9766 - Original Message - From: Benoit Hediard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 6:30 AM Subject: CFMX best practices and Imaging Lib Hi, I've put online : - an Imaging UDF library (based on ImageJ), - some CFMX Best Practices (not bulletproof best practices, just some dev techniques I am using). http://www.benorama.com/coldfusion Next week, I'll add a Pagelet and I18N custom tags. Any feedbacks are welcome. Ben PS : I didn't want to start another CF blog, so I have done this small MX resource center, where I am going to share some of my MX work. __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Does Macromedia have some current strong Flash agenda?
Is it me, or has anyone else noticed there's a REALLY strong push for = Flash lately at all the CFUGs and conferences?? Is there any particular = reason for this? I like Flash - don't get me wrong. But I view it as a GUI frill that I = doubt I can sell to my clients who want a functional business = application. Anyone here can tell me why/how I could sell them Flash = which would be over and above CF development? Bonnie E. Betts [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.bettsIT.com 703.508.9766 __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Does Macromedia have some current strong Flash agenda?
Hmmm, seems I've got that stereotype as well then. Ok I could sell 3 and 4 easily enough to the IT Director. I personally find skip intro stuff a waste of my time and view it as appropriate for entertainment sites and sales pitches. Anyone have any links for sample sites using Flash in a business application? Bonnie E. Betts [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.bettsIT.com 703.508.9766 - Original Message - From: Fitch, Tyler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 4:21 PM Subject: RE: Does Macromedia have some current strong Flash agenda? I'll admit I'm pretty much a brain washed MM Partner, but I'd say they're pushing Flash for a number of reasons. 1) You can build a full web application with it now via Flash Remoting. VERY easily I might add. 2) It isn't just for movies and intros, BUT the public still thinks it is, we as developers are ahead of the public in what we see coming out on the web. The more MM educates people that Flash isn't just movies, the better. That's what I see them doing now. Have you ever seen an post on Slashdot about Flash. All those guys says is skip intro this, skip intro that. They don't even know what's possible since MX came out, and it's been four months. 3) Server load, if you build an application with Flash, the amount of data that needs to be pushed back and forth between a client and server can be greatly reduced, which can mean MAJOR bandwidth/transfer cost reductions to your client. 4) It's a universal component. People can view your application on windows, mac or the right phone without worrying about CSS and JS issues, etc... I'll end it at that, but I'd say number two is the most important reason. t ** Tyler M. Fitch Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer ISITE Design, Inc. 615 SW Broadway Ste. 200 Portland, OR 97205 503.221.9860 ext. 111 http://isitedesign.com ** -Original Message- From: Bonnie E. Betts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 7:16 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Does Macromedia have some current strong Flash agenda? Is it me, or has anyone else noticed there's a REALLY strong push for = Flash lately at all the CFUGs and conferences?? Is there any particular = reason for this? I like Flash - don't get me wrong. But I view it as a GUI frill that I = doubt I can sell to my clients who want a functional business = application. Anyone here can tell me why/how I could sell them Flash = which would be over and above CF development? Bonnie E. Betts [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.bettsIT.com 703.508.9766 __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Does Macromedia have some current strong Flash agenda?
Here we go this is a little of what I'm looking for: we'll be switching from dHTML to Flash for the trickier parts of the interface (e.g. drag and drop pages, building trees, etc). It's just easier for us and more reliable. Would luv more of this (well, and links showing this in use) Bonnie E. Betts [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.bettsIT.com 703.508.9766 - Original Message - From: Matthew Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 4:26 PM Subject: RE: Does Macromedia have some current strong Flash agenda? To me it's not a matter of selling them ColdFusion or selling them Flash. You sell them an application. Whether it uses HTML or Flash as the interface is a detail. Our company is about to rebuild a CMS, and we'll be switching from dHTML to Flash for the trickier parts of the interface (e.g. drag and drop pages, building trees, etc). It's just easier for us and more reliable. -Original Message- From: Bonnie E. Betts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 2 August 2002 2:16 p.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: Does Macromedia have some current strong Flash agenda? Is it me, or has anyone else noticed there's a REALLY strong push for = Flash lately at all the CFUGs and conferences?? Is there any particular = reason for this? I like Flash - don't get me wrong. But I view it as a GUI frill that I = doubt I can sell to my clients who want a functional business = application. Anyone here can tell me why/how I could sell them Flash = which would be over and above CF development? Bonnie E. Betts [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.bettsIT.com 703.508.9766 __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Does Macromedia have some current strong Flash agenda?
Well another problem is that Flash is associated as a tool for graphics artists. The IT departments I've been dealing with are full to the hilt with programmers and no creatives. And the prejudice is you need to be a graphics person to create any decent Flash. Bonnie E. Betts [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.bettsIT.com 703.508.9766 - Original Message - From: Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 4:35 PM Subject: RE: Does Macromedia have some current strong Flash agenda? My only issue with the Rich Client thing is... well... there's only one branden hall in the world and Mr. Watts, I'm sure you're doing a good job keeping him busy. Seriously, to truly be a good developer into Flash Remoting, I think we'd have to have that much knowledge, because as it stands... getting Data into Flash is easy, but I have a feeling a lot of CF developers (like myself) are going to scratch their heads and go, Now what? Ideally, this would be great if your business was split equally between CF / Flash MX people and you had a great team of both that could learn from each other. My problem is, that... at the company I work for, only the partners get to play with Flash and even then, they're hacks and... don't even know that Flash MX is out yet (nor the power they can do with it). Sigh... did I mention I'm looking for a new job? ;) ~Todd At 07:30 PM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote: Is it me, or has anyone else noticed there's a REALLY strong push for Flash lately at all the CFUGs and conferences?? Is there any particular reason for this? Sure. MM sells CF, MM sells Flash, MM would like more money! On a more serious note, though, I think that MM's strategy is to push developers into what you might call rich client applications. There are a lot of limitations in what you can do with an HTML GUI. Flash goes far beyond those limitations, allowing you to build applications that provide significantly more functionality. The reason that web applications are popular isn't because of the great HTML interface - it's probably close to as bad an interface as possible. So, the logical next step is to provide web-based applications with better interfaces. This was the original promise of Java, if you remember back a few years. Flash is a tool which can fulfill that promise. I like Flash - don't get me wrong. But I view it as a GUI frill that I doubt I can sell to my clients who want a functional business application. Anyone here can tell me why/how I could sell them Flash which would be over and above CF development? It's a common programmers' mistake to think about interfaces as a frill. For an end-user, the interface is ALL THERE IS. Good interface design is necessary for a good application. HTML interfaces may be passable, but I wouldn't consider them good - you'd really hate to use every function on your computer through such an interface, wouldn't you? So, to counteract this misunderstanding, you might show functional business applications written in Flash to your clients. In such an application, you'll see things that would be impractical or impossible in HTML - using Flash to add functionality, instead of skip intro glitter. These applications are out there. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Does Macromedia have some current strong Flash agenda?
Yeah no kidding! I sure can't convince them it's cheaper to hire two different developers! And I sure would hate to think of the old days when programmers designed the GUI :(. At least now, a GUI is created and design templates formed. And then the programmers can build functionality till the cows come home. VERY cheap that way compared to needing a Flash guru for each app built. Bonnie E. Betts [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.bettsIT.com 703.508.9766 - Original Message - From: Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:11 PM Subject: RE: Does Macromedia have some current strong Flash agenda? That's my point... Flash developers. I'm talking about the need for Flash / CFMX developers to be _1_ person. It will take time for this to happen, it's not going to happen overnight. I still think it's important to have people that are GREAT in CFMX and then other people that are GREAT in Flash MX.. but, those that will be GREAT in both apps will be rare, but ... within 2-3 years, won't be that rare. We'll see. ~Todd At 04:50 PM 8/1/2002 -0700, you wrote: I solved the Flash MX problem by hiring one of the guys who wrote the Flash MX certification test and is writing the accompanying book. I also know at least two other Flash MX developers in the Bay Area that are up to speed on Flash remoting now. Matt Liotta President CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ V: 415-577-8070 F: 415-341-8906 P: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: slightly OT: PHP links for CF programmers
Not that I'm an expert PHP developer (yet), but it doesn't seem too hard. I've only built 2 apps in it so far, but it's similar to JSP or ASP. I bought a Wrox book I really like called Beginning PHP4. I highly recommend it. Bonnie E. Betts [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.bettsIT.com - Original Message - From: Jim Priest [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 1:48 PM Subject: slightly OT: PHP links for CF programmers Just got a project in PHP. I tried to push CF (mainly cause I wanted to play with MX) but the client already has a few apps built in PHP and wants to continue using that lanquage. So I'm looking for any PHP resources that CF programmers may have found useful. I've dabbled in PHP in the past but it looks like I'm going to have to jump in all the way this time - which should be fun actually!! Thanks, Jim __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: SOT: Live Chat (Customer Service)
I've not seen Trillian yet, but if you use ICQ you'll have a history of messages that you can save to files. That's probably a handy feature for customer service purposes. Bonnie E. Betts [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.bettsIT.com - Original Message - From: Tony Schreiber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 10:43 AM Subject: RE: SOT: Live Chat (Customer Service) I've been thinking of that. I use Trillian, so I could use any of those... Hmm. Why not just use AIM or Yahoo Messenger. YahooMessenger, I believe has an Online/Not Online type feature set... plus, you can use it to leave messages to a person's yahoo email account if he or she is not there. -- jon - jon roig senior manager, online production epilepsy foundation phone: 215.850.0710 site: http://www.epilepsyfoundation.org email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Tony Schreiber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 1:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: Live Chat (Customer Service) Hey, I made SMB open-source. That means I can ask for other stuff for free. Doesn't it? ;) Free... bah... everyone wants things for free. ;P ;) Build your own! :) On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, Tony Schreiber wrote: Oh, let me add that I'm looking first for a free solution. ;p Humanclick (er, LivePerson) looks awesome, but I have no idea how much it costs. Any recommendations for a live customer service chat service or application? CF-based or not? Tony Schreiber, Senior Partner Man and Machine, Limited mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technocraft.com -- Todd Rafferty ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - http://www.web-rat.com/ | Team Macromedia Volunteer for ColdFusion | http://www.macromedia.com/support/forums/team_macromedia/ | http://www.flashCFM.com/ - webRat (Moderator)| http://www.ultrashock.com/ - webRat (Back-end Moderator) | __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: LinkPoint
Anyone else getting multiple copies of all the emails? Bonnie E. Betts [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.bettsIT.com - Original Message - From: Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 8:46 AM Subject: Re: LinkPoint Maybe these will help: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=messagesforumid=4th readid=11829 http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=messagesforumid=4th readid=9609 At 11:40 AM 6/20/02, you wrote: Anyone here using Linkpoint and there CFX tag? I'm pulling my hair out try to figure out how to do a transaction void programmatically. If anyone has code they wouldn't mind sharing please let me know. Duane __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: LinkPoint
*whew* Thanks Ben. Thought it was just another sign of the luck I've been having lately. I don't speak on this list much - a lurker. I mean, I luv ya guys,. just not sure 4 or 5 times as much ;-P Bonnie E. Betts [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.bettsIT.com - Original Message - From: Ben Arledge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 2:15 PM Subject: RE: LinkPoint Yup, 4 or 5 copies of each. Ben -Original Message- From: Bonnie E. Betts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: June 20, 2002 5:23 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: LinkPoint Anyone else getting multiple copies of all the emails? Bonnie E. Betts [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.bettsIT.com - Original Message - From: Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 8:46 AM Subject: Re: LinkPoint Maybe these will help: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=messagesforumid= 4th readid=11829 http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=messagesforumid= 4th readid=9609 At 11:40 AM 6/20/02, you wrote: Anyone here using Linkpoint and there CFX tag? I'm pulling my hair out try to figure out how to do a transaction void programmatically. If anyone has code they wouldn't mind sharing please let me know. Duane __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
problem with studio 5 single server wrecking IE browser
I am having a terrible problem with the single server that came with CFStudio 5. My IE browser is wrecked when the server is loaded in startup or if it's loaded before IE is loaded. The browser opens, but many pages won't show styles or javascript or images. I called Macromedia and they said they would help me for $250 by phone or I can email. I used their email, and that tech refused to help me! I've searched for a patch but can't find one. I'm appalled at Macromedia's disgraceful treatment, but I supposed that's a story for another day. I've rigged things to work by putting IE into startup and removing CF from startup and load that manually. My computer is win98, browser is IE6, using PWS from the NT pack. I used to have CF 4.5 on this machine and everything worked fine then. CF 4.5 was uninstalled before installing 5. Any help on this would be appreciated. Bonnie E. Betts [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.bettsit.com __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: problem with studio 5 single server wrecking IE browser
It's any site in IE6 (local and public sites) but it only happens if I've loaded the CFServer first before opening IE. It's not all sites, but it seems to be all sites that run script like bankofamerica.com or my site. Straight HTML sites appear with images though. Have you ever heard of something like this or any ideas what might be causing this seeming conflict with the server and the browser? Bonnie E. Betts [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.bettsit.com - Original Message - From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 11:02 AM Subject: RE: problem with studio 5 single server wrecking IE browser I am having a terrible problem with the single server that came with CFStudio 5. My IE browser is wrecked when the server is loaded in startup or if it's loaded before IE is loaded. The browser opens, but many pages won't show styles or javascript or images. I called Macromedia and they said they would help me for $250 by phone or I can email. I used their email, and that tech refused to help me! I've searched for a patch but can't find one. I'm appalled at Macromedia's disgraceful treatment, but I supposed that's a story for another day. I've rigged things to work by putting IE into startup and removing CF from startup and load that manually. My computer is win98, browser is IE6, using PWS from the NT pack. I used to have CF 4.5 on this machine and everything worked fine then. CF 4.5 was uninstalled before installing 5. Any help on this would be appreciated. Well, honestly, I can see why Macromedia may be unhelpful in this case, not that this excuses anyone's bad behavior. The CF server is a relatively simple application, with no GUI components, and there's no reason that it should interact with your browser install at all. When you say that IE won't open images or use styles or JavaScript, does this only apply to files on your server, or to files on other people's servers? That is, if you go to a public URL that uses images, styles and JavaScript, those things won't work then? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
