FYI: NCDevCon Early Bird and Call for Speakers
NCDevCon has been announced for September 13-14, 2014 in Raleigh. Early bird tickets are available to the first lucky folks who act quickly. The call for speakers is open now so go for it. See http://www.ncdevcon.com/ for more info. Enjoy, Roger -- LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/roger-austin/8/a4/60 Twitter: http://twitter.com/RogerTheGeek Blog: http://RogerTheGeek.wordpress.com/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358392 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
(ot) Just FYI - Assembla Repository Offerings
Just wanted to let everyone know about the new Assembla Repository offerings. (And, no, I'm not affiliated, just a satisfied customer) Assembla is offering *free* SVN and GIT Repositories. Here are the specs: - Commercial quality - Unlimited Users - Unlimited spaces - 2 GB storage - Private - Encryption Enabled This is repository only, not tools, but great for backup needs, like mine! Here are the details and rationale: http://blog.assembla.com/assemblablog/tabid/12618/bid/12217/April-14-Repo-Bl itz-Free-unlimited-SVN-and-GIT-and-much-more.aspx No better time to start learning to use SVN! Rick ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332920 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: (ot) Just FYI - Assembla Repository Offerings
2 GB storage Encryption Enabled Private Sweet! Thanx for the heads up Rick. Good call. G! On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote: Just wanted to let everyone know about the new Assembla Repository offerings. (And, no, I'm not affiliated, just a satisfied customer) Assembla is offering *free* SVN and GIT Repositories. Here are the specs: - Commercial quality - Unlimited Users - Unlimited spaces - 2 GB storage - Private - Encryption Enabled -- Gerald Guido http://www.myinternetisbroken.com Wait. We can't stop here. This is bat country. -- HST ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332921 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
FYI: Windows DATE/TIME Glitch affecting CF DATE/TIME Functions
I noticed a little Windows bug this AM that may affect some of you. My system clock was showing the correct time, but my CF generated dates and times were an hour off (behind an hour). This was affecting data base postings, timestamps, etc. To correct this I had to turn off the systems Automatically Adjust for Daylight Savings Time option and manually reset the system date/time to the correct time. Apparently Windows adjusted only the clock display and not the system date/time. Everyone running Windows systems may want to check this if they are using CF date/time functions. I'm sure not all version of Windows have this issue, but apparently some do. Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be . Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:320266 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: FYI: Windows DATE/TIME Glitch affecting CF DATE/TIME Functions
Is your version of Java patched for the latest daylight savings dates? mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ 2009/3/10 Robert Harrison rob...@austin-williams.com: I noticed a little Windows bug this AM that may affect some of you. My system clock was showing the correct time, but my CF generated dates and times were an hour off (behind an hour). This was affecting data base postings, timestamps, etc. To correct this I had to turn off the systems Automatically Adjust for Daylight Savings Time option and manually reset the system date/time to the correct time. Apparently Windows adjusted only the clock display and not the system date/time. Everyone running Windows systems may want to check this if they are using CF date/time functions. I'm sure not all version of Windows have this issue, but apparently some do. Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be . Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:320267 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: FYI: Windows DATE/TIME Glitch affecting CF DATE/TIME Functions
Is your version of Java patched for the latest daylight savings dates? mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:320281 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
FYI... Google Adsense Destroys CFMENU CFLAYOUT (tabs)
After much testing and trying various solutions, I've come to the conclusion that the slow CFMENU and CFLAYOUT (tabs) is NOT correctable by any coding tricks. I even tried SEO (putting the Google JS just before the closing body tag) and found it did nothing to improve rendering speeds. Not sure why CF is so sensitive to the well-known slow loading Google Adsense javascript but its clear the two can't be used together. Going back to Deamweaver's Spry for any sites using Google Ads. Phil Hayes Sirius Innovations, LLC ~| Download the latest ColdFusion 8 utilities including Report Builder, plug-ins for Eclipse and Dreamweaver updates. http;//www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs%5adobecf8%5Fbeta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294206 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
OT/FYI: SmarterMail utility
I had posted to the list a while back about an API for SmarterMail, which is a mail server that many web hosts use. In my case, the issue was that I needed to create a thousand email accounts, and I'm lazy. Anyway, I found this http://josh.com/tsma/TSMADump/index.htm command-line utility and it works like a charm. It's churning away right now, saving me from hours of tedious work. If this is too OT, please just delete. Thanks, Pete ~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the latest product release - download the What's New PDF now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:284945 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: OT/FYI: SmarterMail utility
Most of the smarterTools products expose a Webservice API which you can connect to fairly easily. See: http://help.smartertools.com/SmarterMail/v4/ (change the last dir to match your version number) Help for System Admins - Additional Topics - Automation with Web Services ~| Get the answers you are looking for on the ColdFusion Labs Forum direct from active programmers and developers. http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/categories.cfm?forumid-72catid=648 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:284973 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: free community mx fyi
Maybe this was a server stress testand it seems to be failing currently. On 12/27/05, Adrian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3 days, 1400 articles to read... WHAT ARE YOU DOING STILL READING THIS?! :OD -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 December 2005 00:46 To: CF-Talk Subject: free community mx fyi just sharing During the final week of 2005, Community MX will be celebrating with an Open House! That's right, every one of over 1400 articles and tutorials will be free to read. Find out what you have been missing as we open up the vaults for a peek inside all the great stuff that happens here every single day. ~Dave the disruptor~ google will pay you money to getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:227750 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: free community mx fyi
I just noticed that while trying to see more of an article. Grrr...maybe Mikey D. should post an article on server configuartion for them. :) Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: Maybe this was a server stress testand it seems to be failing currently. On 12/27/05, Adrian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3 days, 1400 articles to read... WHAT ARE YOU DOING STILL READING THIS?! :OD -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 December 2005 00:46 To: CF-Talk Subject: free community mx fyi just sharing During the final week of 2005, Community MX will be celebrating with an Open House! That's right, every one of over 1400 articles and tutorials will be free to read. Find out what you have been missing as we open up the vaults for a peek inside all the great stuff that happens here every single day. ~Dave the disruptor~ google will pay you money to getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:227751 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: free community mx fyi
Wow, we must have really done a number on the server. It's still down 4 hours later. And here I am stuck on page two of a three page article! Dammit. Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: Maybe this was a server stress testand it seems to be failing currently. On 12/27/05, Adrian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3 days, 1400 articles to read... WHAT ARE YOU DOING STILL READING THIS?! :OD -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 December 2005 00:46 To: CF-Talk Subject: free community mx fyi just sharing During the final week of 2005, Community MX will be celebrating with an Open House! That's right, every one of over 1400 articles and tutorials will be free to read. Find out what you have been missing as we open up the vaults for a peek inside all the great stuff that happens here every single day. ~Dave the disruptor~ google will pay you money to getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:227782 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: free community mx fyi
ha ha ha, same here. taking me forever to get through an article on web services and SOAP. about every 5th refresh gets a page :) Guess it proves the popularity. On 12/28/05, Ray Champagne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, we must have really done a number on the server. It's still down 4 hours later. And here I am stuck on page two of a three page article! Dammit. Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: Maybe this was a server stress testand it seems to be failing currently. On 12/27/05, Adrian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3 days, 1400 articles to read... WHAT ARE YOU DOING STILL READING THIS?! :OD -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 December 2005 00:46 To: CF-Talk Subject: free community mx fyi just sharing During the final week of 2005, Community MX will be celebrating with an Open House! That's right, every one of over 1400 articles and tutorials will be free to read. Find out what you have been missing as we open up the vaults for a peek inside all the great stuff that happens here every single day. ~Dave the disruptor~ google will pay you money to getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:227783 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: free community mx fyi
it works fine 4 me also they are upgrading their server, I have noticed at night when they release the days new articles the server goes down Server Upgrade! We will be upgrading the CMX servers over this holiday weekend. We will try to keep downtime to a minimum and we apologize if this causes any inconvenience. Thanks for your patience as we improve our ability to deliver brand new content every single day. ~Dave the disruptor~ google will pay you money to getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: Ray Champagne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 2:27 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: free community mx fyi Wow, we must have really done a number on the server. It's still down 4 hours later. And here I am stuck on page two of a three page article! Dammit. Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: Maybe this was a server stress testand it seems to be failing currently. On 12/27/05, Adrian Lynch wrote: 3 days, 1400 articles to read... WHAT ARE YOU DOING STILL READING THIS?! :OD -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 December 2005 00:46 To: CF-Talk Subject: free community mx fyi just sharing During the final week of 2005, Community MX will be celebrating with an Open House! That's right, every one of over 1400 articles and tutorials will be free to read. Find out what you have been missing as we open up the vaults for a peek inside all the great stuff that happens here every single day. ~Dave the disruptor~ google will pay you money to getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:227784 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: free community mx fyi
I got a bit bored of trying so I hit page one and then print - saves the lottery of trying to make it to page 3! On 12/29/05, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it works fine 4 me also they are upgrading their server, I have noticed at night when they release the days new articles the server goes down Server Upgrade! We will be upgrading the CMX servers over this holiday weekend. We will try to keep downtime to a minimum and we apologize if this causes any inconvenience. Thanks for your patience as we improve our ability to deliver brand new content every single day. ~Dave the disruptor~ google will pay you money to getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: Ray Champagne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 2:27 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: free community mx fyi Wow, we must have really done a number on the server. It's still down 4 hours later. And here I am stuck on page two of a three page article! Dammit. Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: Maybe this was a server stress testand it seems to be failing currently. On 12/27/05, Adrian Lynch wrote: 3 days, 1400 articles to read... WHAT ARE YOU DOING STILL READING THIS?! :OD -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 December 2005 00:46 To: CF-Talk Subject: free community mx fyi just sharing During the final week of 2005, Community MX will be celebrating with an Open House! That's right, every one of over 1400 articles and tutorials will be free to read. Find out what you have been missing as we open up the vaults for a peek inside all the great stuff that happens here every single day. ~Dave the disruptor~ google will pay you money to getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:227789 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
free community mx fyi
just sharing During the final week of 2005, Community MX will be celebrating with an Open House! That's right, every one of over 1400 articles and tutorials will be free to read. Find out what you have been missing as we open up the vaults for a peek inside all the great stuff that happens here every single day. ~Dave the disruptor~ google will pay you money to getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:227734 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: free community mx fyi
3 days, 1400 articles to read... WHAT ARE YOU DOING STILL READING THIS?! :OD -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 December 2005 00:46 To: CF-Talk Subject: free community mx fyi just sharing During the final week of 2005, Community MX will be celebrating with an Open House! That's right, every one of over 1400 articles and tutorials will be free to read. Find out what you have been missing as we open up the vaults for a peek inside all the great stuff that happens here every single day. ~Dave the disruptor~ google will pay you money to getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:227736 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms
Dave, I have no personal preferences for either Flex or DHTML. And I am lucky to be in a situation where I have hands on experience with both. Like I said before, I think the best solution is a combination of Flex and DHTML. Flex just isn't there on performance level yet. I think you really should think in ways of combining them both. After people here said, that it ran fine with them I wondered if they expanded the preferences section. Did that run well? I've checked with multiple systems if I was wrong, and they all showed up hogging the CPU to 100% while expanding. Does expanding preferences really go smooth? Regarding your negativity statements; I am open things and at least have the balls to talk about things not working correctly, people have opinions. On a list full of Macromedia zealots they might feel it is offensive to talk too honestly about their favorite product or company in such a way, but those who have criticism about products should be able to talk about it openly. If I am wrong about things I have no problem acknowledging that. If you think I am wrong, please discuss it with arguments. With the Flex comment I just expressed my concerns regarding performance, when doing more than reading RSS feeds. And I believe, watching at other reactions on Flex for RIA development from real software architects, that it is a real concern. Flickr btw switched to DHTML a long time ago, and besided runtime image modifications I didn't see the real use for Flash there either. Don't use Flash because it is Flash, use it because it might solve a problem for you. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 3 augustus 2005 3:45 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms Come on micha tell us how dhtml would do it so much better ;) Also, last time i checked cfform was coldfusion and not flex, while yes it uses a SMALL flex engine it's exactly that a small flex engine and i certainly wouldn't say that example is an equal comparable item to a real flex one. Expanding and collapsing brings my dual core system on its knees What are you running? Barbies Malibu pc? Runs fine on my mac just fine. I maybe negitive towards m$ but damn do you look at the bright side of..., well anything at all? You remind me of my dad, mr. negitivity. For small widgets you mean like kodaks photoshare or flickr, yes very small indeed. ~Dave the disruptor~ A criminal is a person with predatory instincts who has not sufficient capital to form a corporation. Micha Schopman Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=m:4:41450:213379 Mike, They have delivered a wonderful piece of work, but I must say that this real world example shows again, why Flex is not mature yet for full blown applications in the browser. Expanding and collapsing brings my dual core system on its knees, not to mention resizing the window resulting in the exact same effect. Scrolling the grid with the handle on a 3Ghz CPU has the exact same effect. Either way, they did a great job and I applaud what they did, but it doesn't position Flex in my eyes as THE tool for building truly Rich Internet Applications, ... not yet. For small widgets, are as GUI enhancements it is ready though. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:213574 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms
On Monday 01 August 2005 19:05, Micha Schopman wrote: Flex really has potential, especially because as a developer you are able to work on a single canvas level with drag and drop operations, and events. That is definately a very very weak spot for Javascript Eh ? How so ? -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:213466 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms
Come on micha tell us how dhtml would do it so much better ;) Also, last time i checked cfform was coldfusion and not flex, while yes it uses a SMALL flex engine it's exactly that a small flex engine and i certainly wouldn't say that example is an equal comparable item to a real flex one. Expanding and collapsing brings my dual core system on its knees What are you running? Barbies Malibu pc? Runs fine on my mac just fine. I maybe negitive towards m$ but damn do you look at the bright side of..., well anything at all? You remind me of my dad, mr. negitivity. For small widgets you mean like kodaks photoshare or flickr, yes very small indeed. ~Dave the disruptor~ A criminal is a person with predatory instincts who has not sufficient capital to form a corporation. Micha Schopman Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=m:4:41450:213379 Mike, They have delivered a wonderful piece of work, but I must say that this real world example shows again, why Flex is not mature yet for full blown applications in the browser. Expanding and collapsing brings my dual core system on its knees, not to mention resizing the window resulting in the exact same effect. Scrolling the grid with the handle on a 3Ghz CPU has the exact same effect. Either way, they did a great job and I applaud what they did, but it doesn't position Flex in my eyes as THE tool for building truly Rich Internet Applications, ... not yet. For small widgets, are as GUI enhancements it is ready though. ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:213566 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms
Mike, They have delivered a wonderful piece of work, but I must say that this real world example shows again, why Flex is not mature yet for full blown applications in the browser. Expanding and collapsing brings my dual core system on its knees, not to mention resizing the window resulting in the exact same effect. Scrolling the grid with the handle on a 3Ghz CPU has the exact same effect. Either way, they did a great job and I applaud what they did, but it doesn't position Flex in my eyes as THE tool for building truly Rich Internet Applications, ... not yet. For small widgets, are as GUI enhancements it is ready though. Curious though what were the investments involved when talking about time, money, and resources. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Mike Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 1 augustus 2005 5:54 To: CF-Talk Subject: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms fyi Nice MXNA app built with CFForms... http://www.asfusion.com/blog/entry/mxna-reader-built-with-cfforms mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:213379 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms
From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Expanding and collapsing brings my dual core system on its knees, not to mention resizing the window resulting in the exact same effect. Scrolling the grid with the handle on a 3Ghz CPU has the exact same effect. That's odd. I have Homesite+, IE 7, FF, Outlook, AIM, iTunes, Eclipse, Sql Server Management Console (2005), and Adalon all open and it runs fine. If you go below the 1024x768 res the app gives you some scroll bars but other than that, no problems. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:213380 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms
Same here. I've got HS+, Win Media Player, several browsers and Thunderbird open and the site does nothing to slow down my very average machine. That's very strong work! --Ferg Tangorre, Michael wrote: From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Expanding and collapsing brings my dual core system on its knees, not to mention resizing the window resulting in the exact same effect. Scrolling the grid with the handle on a 3Ghz CPU has the exact same effect. That's odd. I have Homesite+, IE 7, FF, Outlook, AIM, iTunes, Eclipse, Sql Server Management Console (2005), and Adalon all open and it runs fine. If you go below the 1024x768 res the app gives you some scroll bars but other than that, no problems. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:213381 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms
While the expanding and collapsing of the preferences (can't see any other place to do it) is slow, it certainly doesn't bring my machine to it's knees, and I only have a 2ghz AMD. Window resizing has no problems at all. Scrolling the grid works smooth and fast. So I think you have a problem with your dual core machine. Satachi Internet Development Web Development and Consulting Russ Michaels -Original Message- From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 August 2005 13:41 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms Mike, They have delivered a wonderful piece of work, but I must say that this real world example shows again, why Flex is not mature yet for full blown applications in the browser. Expanding and collapsing brings my dual core system on its knees, not to mention resizing the window resulting in the exact same effect. Scrolling the grid with the handle on a 3Ghz CPU has the exact same effect. Either way, they did a great job and I applaud what they did, but it doesn't position Flex in my eyes as THE tool for building truly Rich Internet Applications, ... not yet. For small widgets, are as GUI enhancements it is ready though. Curious though what were the investments involved when talking about time, money, and resources. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Mike Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 1 augustus 2005 5:54 To: CF-Talk Subject: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms fyi Nice MXNA app built with CFForms... http://www.asfusion.com/blog/entry/mxna-reader-built-with-cfforms mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:213382 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms
On Monday 01 August 2005 13:40, Micha Schopman wrote: Expanding and collapsing brings my dual core system on its knees, not to mention resizing the window resulting in the exact same effect. Yeah, both that and resize events are very slow (Firefox latest, 1.5Ghz of Fedora Core 4, gig of ram). -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:213388 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms
Don't think so, checked it on other systems as well. Ranging from basic machines with 2Ghz to 3Ghz machines, and 3D render stations. All rendered slow. Like each change in position invokes a redraw method. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 1 augustus 2005 14:33 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms While the expanding and collapsing of the preferences (can't see any other place to do it) is slow, it certainly doesn't bring my machine to it's knees, and I only have a 2ghz AMD. Window resizing has no problems at all. Scrolling the grid works smooth and fast. So I think you have a problem with your dual core machine. Satachi Internet Development Web Development and Consulting Russ Michaels -Original Message- From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 August 2005 13:41 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms Mike, They have delivered a wonderful piece of work, but I must say that this real world example shows again, why Flex is not mature yet for full blown applications in the browser. Expanding and collapsing brings my dual core system on its knees, not to mention resizing the window resulting in the exact same effect. Scrolling the grid with the handle on a 3Ghz CPU has the exact same effect. Either way, they did a great job and I applaud what they did, but it doesn't position Flex in my eyes as THE tool for building truly Rich Internet Applications, ... not yet. For small widgets, are as GUI enhancements it is ready though. Curious though what were the investments involved when talking about time, money, and resources. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Mike Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 1 augustus 2005 5:54 To: CF-Talk Subject: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms fyi Nice MXNA app built with CFForms... http://www.asfusion.com/blog/entry/mxna-reader-built-with-cfforms mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:213389 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms
If resizing was the only problem they would be in good shape. It won't even render on my pc. -Adam On 8/1/05, Micha Schopman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't think so, checked it on other systems as well. Ranging from basic machines with 2Ghz to 3Ghz machines, and 3D render stations. All rendered slow. Like each change in position invokes a redraw method. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 1 augustus 2005 14:33 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms While the expanding and collapsing of the preferences (can't see any other place to do it) is slow, it certainly doesn't bring my machine to it's knees, and I only have a 2ghz AMD. Window resizing has no problems at all. Scrolling the grid works smooth and fast. So I think you have a problem with your dual core machine. Satachi Internet Development Web Development and Consulting Russ Michaels -Original Message- From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 August 2005 13:41 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms Mike, They have delivered a wonderful piece of work, but I must say that this real world example shows again, why Flex is not mature yet for full blown applications in the browser. Expanding and collapsing brings my dual core system on its knees, not to mention resizing the window resulting in the exact same effect. Scrolling the grid with the handle on a 3Ghz CPU has the exact same effect. Either way, they did a great job and I applaud what they did, but it doesn't position Flex in my eyes as THE tool for building truly Rich Internet Applications, ... not yet. For small widgets, are as GUI enhancements it is ready though. Curious though what were the investments involved when talking about time, money, and resources. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Mike Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 1 augustus 2005 5:54 To: CF-Talk Subject: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms fyi Nice MXNA app built with CFForms... http://www.asfusion.com/blog/entry/mxna-reader-built-with-cfforms mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:213390 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms
From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If resizing was the only problem they would be in good shape. It won't even render on my pc. -Adam Specs? ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:213391 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms
Using IE ? Satachi Internet Development Web Development and Consulting Russ Michaels -Original Message- From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 August 2005 15:53 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms Don't think so, checked it on other systems as well. Ranging from basic machines with 2Ghz to 3Ghz machines, and 3D render stations. All rendered slow. Like each change in position invokes a redraw method. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 1 augustus 2005 14:33 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms While the expanding and collapsing of the preferences (can't see any other place to do it) is slow, it certainly doesn't bring my machine to it's knees, and I only have a 2ghz AMD. Window resizing has no problems at all. Scrolling the grid works smooth and fast. So I think you have a problem with your dual core machine. Satachi Internet Development Web Development and Consulting Russ Michaels -Original Message- From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 August 2005 13:41 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms Mike, They have delivered a wonderful piece of work, but I must say that this real world example shows again, why Flex is not mature yet for full blown applications in the browser. Expanding and collapsing brings my dual core system on its knees, not to mention resizing the window resulting in the exact same effect. Scrolling the grid with the handle on a 3Ghz CPU has the exact same effect. Either way, they did a great job and I applaud what they did, but it doesn't position Flex in my eyes as THE tool for building truly Rich Internet Applications, ... not yet. For small widgets, are as GUI enhancements it is ready though. Curious though what were the investments involved when talking about time, money, and resources. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Mike Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 1 augustus 2005 5:54 To: CF-Talk Subject: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms fyi Nice MXNA app built with CFForms... http://www.asfusion.com/blog/entry/mxna-reader-built-with-cfforms mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:213392 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms
Yes, and I was not clear enough in my description. I am talking about expanding and collapsing the preferences within the example. I have no problem minimizing and maximizing the browser window. My cpu's really do hard work when I expand/collapse preferences/languages/about/feedback sections. Flex really has potential, especially because as a developer you are able to work on a single canvas level with drag and drop operations, and events. That is definately a very very weak spot for Javascript equivalents and once XUL is widely supported this will remain. But I think we need more CPU power to get things like this performing better on Flex so that you really get an excellent user experience without the feeling it sometimes feels so .. heavy. And although it really looks nice, this interface is relatively simple with small amounts of data, simple presentation and as far as I can see, a small amount of dependencies inside the interface. I personally would feel more for a mixed approach, where people use Flex/Flash for the rich parts of the interface, and common markup/javascript for the overall part. ps. there is a minor bug when you drag n drop favorites within the pod to index 0. Using IE ? ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:213411 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms
If the machines you're testing these on is a Mac, than that would explain it. The Flash Player for Mac seems to have rendering problems in comparison to the PC version. Cheers, Kevin - Original Message - From: Micha Schopman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 6:40 AM Subject: RE: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms Mike, They have delivered a wonderful piece of work, but I must say that this real world example shows again, why Flex is not mature yet for full blown applications in the browser. Expanding and collapsing brings my dual core system on its knees, not to mention resizing the window resulting in the exact same effect. Scrolling the grid with the handle on a 3Ghz CPU has the exact same effect. Either way, they did a great job and I applaud what they did, but it doesn't position Flex in my eyes as THE tool for building truly Rich Internet Applications, ... not yet. For small widgets, are as GUI enhancements it is ready though. Curious though what were the investments involved when talking about time, money, and resources. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Mike Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 1 augustus 2005 5:54 To: CF-Talk Subject: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms fyi Nice MXNA app built with CFForms... http://www.asfusion.com/blog/entry/mxna-reader-built-with-cfforms mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:213413 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms
My bad. I was browsing on a locked-down network. Flash player 7 is not allowed on our intranet. -Adam On 8/1/05, Tangorre, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If resizing was the only problem they would be in good shape. It won't even render on my pc. -Adam Specs? ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:213420 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms
fyi Nice MXNA app built with CFForms... http://www.asfusion.com/blog/entry/mxna-reader-built-with-cfforms mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:213374 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
fyi: Adobe to aquire Macromedia
Fyi: http://www.macromedia.com/macromedia/proom/pr/2005/adobe_macromedia.html SAN JOSE, Calif. - April 18, 2005 - Adobe Systems Incorporated (Nasdaq: ADBE) today announced a definitive agreement to acquire Macromedia (Nasdaq: MACR) in an all-stock transaction valued at approximately $3.4 billion Micha Schopman Project Manager ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:203162 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fyi: Adobe to aquire Macromedia
On list, so many times we discussed managemente and strategy and Macromedia. For a long time I felt that there product line was way to diverse. Very Good product with extraordinary potential but to many competing consumer interest to manage. What next. Look to see a sell off of the parts. Breeze will proably go a separate way maybe even ColdFusion. Dwayne -- Original Message -- From: Micha Schopman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:16:30 +0200 Fyi: http://www.macromedia.com/macromedia/proom/pr/2005/adobe_macromedia.html SAN JOSE, Calif. - April 18, 2005 - Adobe Systems Incorporated (Nasdaq: ADBE) today announced a definitive agreement to acquire Macromedia (Nasdaq: MACR) in an all-stock transaction valued at approximately $3.4 billion Micha Schopman Project Manager ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:203173 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fyi: Adobe to aquire Macromedia
On Monday 18 Apr 2005 11:33 am, Dwayne Cole wrote: separate way maybe even ColdFusion. What makes you think that ? -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:203175 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fyi: Adobe to aquire Macromedia
On 4/18/05, Thomas Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 18 Apr 2005 11:33 am, Dwayne Cole wrote: separate way maybe even ColdFusion. What makes you think that ? So they can focus on their core products. In this case I would suspect that Flash+PDF is going to go somewhere. Its something they specifically mentioned in the release. And if CF moved to MM -- which is a graphics-first company, what would you call Adobe? Conversely, CF has done well under MM's stewardship, I think. But I have to ask myself whether Adobe was looking to acquire a server technology company or a graphics technology company. Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? -- --mattRobertson-- Janitor, MSB Web Systems mysecretbase.com ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:203252 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fyi: Adobe to aquire Macromedia
Matt Robertson wrote: But I have to ask myself whether Adobe was looking to acquire a server technology company or a graphics technology company. Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? People said the same thing when MM bought Allaire. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:203259 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fyi: Adobe to aquire Macromedia
On 4/18/05, Keith Gaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People said the same thing when MM bought Allaire. Yes. We'll see :-) -- --mattRobertson-- Janitor, MSB Web Systems mysecretbase.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:203272 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
fyi
Just wanted to let you know I'm leaving on time today, but will probably stay a little later tomorrow (til 7ish). The final thing left to do for the NDA stuff is to upload the executed doc, which will be done in the AM tomorrow. You asked that the output be sorted by DATE ISSUED. That is no problem, however, if more than one NDA is issued to the same business then the output is grouped by business name and sorted by DATE ISSUED within that group. Check out OP 141 (internal ID) and click View NDAs on the left... you will see what I am talking about. I also added a count in the navigational area as to the number of NDAs available to view by clicking on the link(#). Also, you can navigate between the areas (op and exchange) without losing your current opportunity. A lot of the additional queries/stored procs written today will be used in the splash/user's homepage so it was not a waste of time to knock those of the list. Tomorrow afternoon I will continue working with the TA section. Let me know how the NDA section is looking if you have a moment. It should be inline with what we've talked about but let me know if something is askew. Thanks! -Mike [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: fyi
At 05:13 PM 8/31/2004, you wrote: Just wanted to let you know I'm leaving on time today, but will probably stay a little later tomorrow (til 7ish). The final thing left to do for the NDA stuff is to upload the executed doc, which will be done in the AM tomorrow. You asked that the output be sorted by DATE ISSUED. That is no problem, however, if more than one NDA is issued to the same business then the output is grouped by business name and sorted by DATE ISSUED within that group. Check out OP 141 (internal ID) and click View NDAs on the left... you will see what I am talking about. I also added a count in the navigational area as to the number of NDAs available to view by clicking on the link(#). Also, you can navigate between the areas (op and exchange) without losing your current opportunity. A lot of the additional queries/stored procs written today will be used in the splash/user's homepage so it was not a waste of time to knock those of the list. Tomorrow afternoon I will continue working with the TA section. Let me know how the NDA section is looking if you have a moment. It should be inline with what we've talked about but let me know if something is askew. Thanks! -Mike [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: fyi
Sorry everyone. No wonder my manager wondered why I left today. LOL Had a few email windows open and got typing in the wrong one. Please disregard. Mike [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: fyi
Sorry everyone. No wonder my manager wondered why I left today. LOL Had a few email windows open and got typing in the wrong one. Please disregard. Mike Good thing that was a work-related email and not something intended for say... a fetish forum. :) s. isaac dealey954.927.5117 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=44477DE=1 http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=45569DE=1 http://www.fusiontap.com [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
fyi: Win XP SP2 RC available
Microsoft's Service Pack 2 for Windows XP is shaping up to be a significant release, because much existing web content may change. It would be good to check some of your sites before your clients do...! Links to various resources here: http://www.markme.com/jd/archives/005363.cfm (Try that eWeek context link first, and then Microsoft's advice to webmasters for the quickest overview.) jd John Dowdell, Macromedia Developer Support, San Francisco (Best to reply on-list, to avoid my mighty spam filters!) Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ Column: http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/jd_forum/ Technical daily diary: http://www.macromedia.com/go/blog_jd [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: fyi: Win XP SP2 RC available
Intresting. I see they are performing more port protection, and claiming that ports are only opened in the windows firewall when needed. I wonder if this is going to throw a wrench into License Network Detection methods that a bunch of software providers are using (including MM). So have they made a final stand on whether this SP is going to work on pirated machines? Not that I'm not legal, but the idea of only patching some machines mean the impact of worms and virus across the net will just increase. -Adam Wayne Lehman - Original Message - From: John Dowdell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 11:42:08 -0700 Subject: fyi: Win XP SP2 RC available To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microsoft's Service Pack 2 for Windows XP is shaping up to be a significant release, because much existing web content may change. It would be good to check some of your sites before your clients do...! Links to various resources here: http://www.markme.com/jd/archives/005363.cfm (Try that eWeek context link first, and then Microsoft's advice to webmasters for the quickest overview.) jd John Dowdell, Macromedia Developer Support, San Francisco (Best to reply on-list, to avoid my mighty spam filters!) Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ Column: http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/jd_forum/ Technical daily diary: http://www.macromedia.com/go/blog_jd [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: fyi: Win XP SP2 RC available
Will 'pushing' files down to the client via cfcontent be an issue here?Example:Client clicks on a link that goes to download.cfm?FileID=123 and gets a file save dialog (since I set the mime type to application/unknown) followed by a download. Does something like this qualify as a user-initiated download? --- Matt Robertson,[EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com --- Sent via the WebMail system at mysecretbase.com [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: fyi: Win XP SP2 RC available
not sure Matt...try this article...haven't read it all yet ;-) http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3362461 Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: fyi: Win XP SP2 RC available
Thanks Bryan, but its not much better than the MS doc on this score. One thing for sure:I've been lazy and used application/unknown to force a file download dialog.I'll have to revise my downloaders to specify a proper mime type and leave it to the user to be able to save what they get in the browser (i.e. a Word doc displaying onscreen). --- Matt Robertson,[EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com --- Sent via the WebMail system at mysecretbase.com [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: fyi: Win XP SP2 RC available
mimeStruct.t=application/x-troff; mimeStruct.tar=application/x-tar; mimeStruct.tcl=application/x-tcl; mimeStruct.tex=application/x-tex; mimeStruct.texi=application/x-texinfo; mimeStruct.texinfo=application/x-texinfo; mimeStruct.tif=image/tiff; mimeStruct.tiff=image/tiff; mimeStruct.tr=application/x-troff; mimeStruct.tsi=audio/TSP-audio; mimeStruct.tsp=application/dsptype; mimeStruct.tsv=text/tab-separated-values; mimeStruct.txt=text/plain; mimeStruct.unv=application/i-deas; mimeStruct.ustar=application/x-ustar; mimeStruct.vcd=application/x-cdlink; mimeStruct.vda=application/vda; mimeStruct.viv=video/vndmimeStruct.vivo; mimeStruct.vivo=video/vndmimeStruct.vivo; mimeStruct.vrml=""> mimeStruct.wav=audio/x-wav; mimeStruct.wrl=model/vrml; mimeStruct.xbm=image/x-xbitmap; mimeStruct.xlc=application/vnd.ms-excel; mimeStruct.xll=application/vnd.ms-excel; mimeStruct.xlm=application/vnd.ms-excel; mimeStruct.xls=application/vnd.ms-excel; mimeStruct.xlw=application/vnd.ms-excel; mimeStruct.xml=text/xml; mimeStruct.xpm=image/x-xpixmap; mimeStruct.xwd=image/x-xwindowdump; mimeStruct.xyz=chemical/x-pdb; mimeStruct.zip=application/zip; /cfscript cfif(structKeyExists(mimeStruct,fileExtension)) cfset MimeType = mimeStruct[fileExtension] cfelse cfset MimeType= unknown/unknown /cfif cfreturn MimeType /cffunction Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Matt Robertson To: CF-Talk Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 12:36 PM Subject: Re: fyi: Win XP SP2 RC available Thanks Bryan, but its not much better than the MS doc on this score. One thing for sure:I've been lazy and used application/unknown to force a file download dialog.I'll have to revise my downloaders to specify a proper mime type and leave it to the user to be able to save what they get in the browser (i.e. a Word doc displaying onscreen). --- Matt Robertson,[EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com --- Sent via the WebMail system at mysecretbase.com [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: fyi: Win XP SP2 RC available
cfcontent type file delivery still works with my XP SP2 installation. Paul [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: fyi: Win XP SP2 RC available
imeStruct.stl=application/SLA; mimeStruct.stp=application/STEP; mimeStruct.sv4cpio=application/x-sv4cpio; mimeStruct.sv4crc=application/x-sv4crc; mimeStruct.swf=application/x-shockwave-flash; mimeStruct.t=application/x-troff; mimeStruct.tar=application/x-tar; mimeStruct.tcl=application/x-tcl; mimeStruct.tex=application/x-tex; mimeStruct.texi=application/x-texinfo; mimeStruct.texinfo=application/x-texinfo; mimeStruct.tif=image/tiff; mimeStruct.tiff=image/tiff; mimeStruct.tr=application/x-troff; mimeStruct.tsi=audio/TSP-audio; mimeStruct.tsp=application/dsptype; mimeStruct.tsv=text/tab-separated-values; mimeStruct.txt=text/plain; mimeStruct.unv=application/i-deas; mimeStruct.ustar=application/x-ustar; mimeStruct.vcd=application/x-cdlink; mimeStruct.vda=application/vda; mimeStruct.viv=video/vndmimeStruct.vivo; mimeStruct.vivo=video/vndmimeStruct.vivo; mimeStruct.vrml=""> mimeStruct.wav=audio/x-wav; mimeStruct.wrl=model/vrml; mimeStruct.xbm=image/x-xbitmap; mimeStruct.xlc=application/vnd.ms-excel; mimeStruct.xll=application/vnd.ms-excel; mimeStruct.xlm=application/vnd.ms-excel; mimeStruct.xls=application/vnd.ms-excel; mimeStruct.xlw=application/vnd.ms-excel; mimeStruct.xml=text/xml; mimeStruct.xpm=image/x-xpixmap; mimeStruct.xwd=image/x-xwindowdump; mimeStruct.xyz=chemical/x-pdb; mimeStruct.zip=application/zip; /cfscript cfif(structKeyExists(mimeStruct,fileExtension)) cfset MimeType = mimeStruct[fileExtension] cfelse cfset MimeType= unknown/unknown /cfif cfreturn MimeType /cffunction Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Matt Robertson To: CF-Talk Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 12:36 PM Subject: Re: fyi: Win XP SP2 RC available Thanks Bryan, but its not much better than the MS doc on this score. One thing for sure:I've been lazy and used application/unknown to force a file download dialog.I'll have to revise my downloaders to specify a proper mime type and leave it to the user to be able to save what they get in the browser (i.e. a Word doc displaying onscreen). --- Matt Robertson,[EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com --- Sent via the WebMail system at mysecretbase.com [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: RESOLVED - FYI : Oracle 9i and cfqueryparam problems
On Wednesday 05 May 2004 21:18 pm, Stacy Young wrote: See Oracle technet for additional info! Do you have a reference ? -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: RESOLVED - FYI : Oracle 9i and cfqueryparam problems
Reference for what, specifically? The URL for technet is: http://otn.oracle.com/index.html -Jason Gulledge -Original Message- From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 9:10 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: RESOLVED - FYI : Oracle 9i and cfqueryparam problems On Wednesday 05 May 2004 21:18 pm, Stacy Young wrote: See Oracle technet for additional info! Do you have a reference ? -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: RESOLVED - FYI : Oracle 9i and cfqueryparam problems
Wow, folks using CF for reporting w/ Oracle DBs should re-evaluate the use of using bind variables. For transactions and the like they are fine but in the case of reporting, bind vars can wreak havoc. The over simplified explanation is that bind variables can inhibit the work of Oracles optimizer in a couple ways. The optimizer ends up using heuristics to generate the best explain plan rather than using information about data distribution. (from stat tables etc) The problems may have been exaggerated in our case considering the sheer volume of data (and DB links) we have...but nonetheless we've seen dramatic improvements in response time after removing all bind variables! (couple minutes down to seconds!) See Oracle technet for additional info! Can you provide any links to this technet info? TechNet is huge and their search features stink. We use Oracle exclusively and haven't had any big performace issues. In fact, our stability *improved* when we converted some legacy non-cfqueryparam-ed queries to use cfqueryparam. I've never heard of the negative effects you describe, though you have certainly peaked my interest. Also, is the bind variable issue with any particular set of JDBC drivers? The DataDirect that ships with MX? The ones directly from Oracle? Type IV? Thanks for any info you can provide. Regards, Dave. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: RESOLVED - FYI : Oracle 9i and cfqueryparam problems
Sorry I should have stated my sources...I had initially googled on: http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclientie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8q=oracle+bind+variables+performance Also our DBA found helpful info digging thru our 9i docs and summarized for me: It doesn't bypass the optimizer, it just can't use it to its full potential because it doesn't have enough information to take the best decision. Let's say you have a date between 2004-04-06 and 2004-04-07 in your where clause, when this statement is parsed, it will know that all its information can be found in the 2004-04 partition so it builds its plan accordingly. But when you have a date between :a and :b in you where clause, it has to go with a general plan that will fit any kind of date interval. As a general rule, Bind Variables should be used only if you know the statement will be reused very often(like transaction processing stuff). A report is not likely to be run 3000 times per hour. The reason Bind Variables is a good thing for repetitive statements is because of the time the BD can save by reusing parsed code. A statement comes in, it's hashed into a key, then it's parsed(this part takes a lot of time, relative to CPU clock cycles of course), then it's put into memory, matched to the hash key and then run. An identical statement comes in(50 milliseconds later), it's hashed into a key, it compares it's key with what's already in memory, if it finds it, it just runs it, otherwise it has to go through the parsing, etc. We've proven the above theory in many instances. Hope that helps! Stace From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 10:41 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: RESOLVED - FYI : Oracle 9i and cfqueryparam problems On Thursday 06 May 2004 15:26 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reference for what, specifically? TechNet is huge, I thought you might have a TAR number or something. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: RESOLVED - FYI : Oracle 9i and cfqueryparam problems
We use bind variables extensively as well. The only case in which they can cause negative side effects relating to reporting. Please see my last post for more detailed summary info. In our case the effects were devastating due to our partitioning (we partition by month)...it was causing full table scans on enormous tables. (tens of millions of rows) -Stace _ From: Dave Carabetta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 12:21 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: RESOLVED - FYI : Oracle 9i and cfqueryparam problems Wow, folks using CF for reporting w/ Oracle DBs should re-evaluate the use of using bind variables. For transactions and the like they are fine but in the case of reporting, bind vars can wreak havoc. The over simplified explanation is that bind variables can inhibit the work of Oracles optimizer in a couple ways. The optimizer ends up using heuristics to generate the best explain plan rather than using information about data distribution. (from stat tables etc) The problems may have been exaggerated in our case considering the sheer volume of data (and DB links) we have...but nonetheless we've seen dramatic improvements in response time after removing all bind variables! (couple minutes down to seconds!) See Oracle technet for additional info! Can you provide any links to this technet info? TechNet is huge and their search features stink. We use Oracle exclusively and haven't had any big performace issues. In fact, our stability *improved* when we converted some legacy non-cfqueryparam-ed queries to use cfqueryparam. I've never heard of the negative effects you describe, though you have certainly peaked my interest. Also, is the bind variable issue with any particular set of JDBC drivers? The DataDirect that ships with MX? The ones directly from Oracle? Type IV? Thanks for any info you can provide. Regards, Dave. _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: RESOLVED - FYI : Oracle 9i and cfqueryparam problems
You know, we do something VERY similar...we partition by month... I do a check at execution time because everytime someone queries the data its for a given month...and the month just so happens to coordinate with the partition name, so I can somewhat dynamically decide which index/partition to use.Its *VERY* helpful. Jason -Original Message- From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 1:15 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: RESOLVED - FYI : Oracle 9i and cfqueryparam problems We use bind variables extensively as well. The only case in which they can cause negative side effects relating to reporting. Please see my last post for more detailed summary info. In our case the effects were devastating due to our partitioning (we partition by month)...it was causing full table scans on enormous tables. (tens of millions of rows) -Stace _ From: Dave Carabetta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 12:21 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: RESOLVED - FYI : Oracle 9i and cfqueryparam problems Wow, folks using CF for reporting w/ Oracle DBs should re-evaluate the use of using bind variables. For transactions and the like they are fine but in the case of reporting, bind vars can wreak havoc. The over simplified explanation is that bind variables can inhibit the work of Oracles optimizer in a couple ways. The optimizer ends up using heuristics to generate the best explain plan rather than using information about data distribution. (from stat tables etc) The problems may have been exaggerated in our case considering the sheer volume of data (and DB links) we have...but nonetheless we've seen dramatic improvements in response time after removing all bind variables! (couple minutes down to seconds!) See Oracle technet for additional info! Can you provide any links to this technet info? TechNet is huge and their search features stink. We use Oracle exclusively and haven't had any big performace issues. In fact, our stability *improved* when we converted some legacy non-cfqueryparam-ed queries to use cfqueryparam. I've never heard of the negative effects you describe, though you have certainly peaked my interest. Also, is the bind variable issue with any particular set of JDBC drivers? The DataDirect that ships with MX? The ones directly from Oracle? Type IV? Thanks for any info you can provide. Regards, Dave. _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: RESOLVED - FYI : Oracle 9i and cfqueryparam problems
Yes but at that point you're overlapping the optimizer's functionality...and as soon as u start down the road of manual hints...you're on your own. We haven't had much luck going that route. -Stace _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 2:58 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: RESOLVED - FYI : Oracle 9i and cfqueryparam problems You know, we do something VERY similar...we partition by month... I do a check at execution time because everytime someone queries the data its for a given month...and the month just so happens to coordinate with the partition name, so I can somewhat dynamically decide which index/partition to use.Its *VERY* helpful. Jason [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RESOLVED - FYI : Oracle 9i and cfqueryparam problems
Wow, folks using CF for reporting w/ Oracle DBs should re-evaluate the use of using bind variables. For transactions and the like they are fine but in the case of reporting, bind vars can wreak havoc. The over simplified explanation is that bind variables can inhibit the work of Oracles optimizer in a couple ways. The optimizer ends up using heuristics to generate the best explain plan rather than using information about data distribution. (from stat tables etc) The problems may have been exaggerated in our case considering the sheer volume of data (and DB links) we have...but nonetheless we've seen dramatic improvements in response time after removing all bind variables! (couple minutes down to seconds!) See Oracle technet for additional info! Cheers, Stace From: Stacy Young Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 3:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Oracle 9i and cfqueryparam problems Has anyone had any issue using TIMESTAMP as the datatype for bind variables when using cfmx 6.1 with Oracle 9i? It seems we're getting queries that run for very long periods of time...if we take out the bind variables...query only takes a few seconds! -Stace [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: RESOLVED - FYI : Oracle 9i and cfqueryparam problems
It was my understanding (and I could be wrong) that if you were using hints in your select statements to force oracle to use whatever indexes (or whatever) you wanted, using bind variables should be okay.I've been able to test this using the plan table, then tracing active sessions using Bind variables, and they seem to be following my orders. Have you tried forcing the use of optimizations via /*+ index(table index_name) */ or the like? -Original Message- From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 3:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RESOLVED - FYI : Oracle 9i and cfqueryparam problems Wow, folks using CF for reporting w/ Oracle DBs should re-evaluate the use of using bind variables. For transactions and the like they are fine but in the case of reporting, bind vars can wreak havoc. The over simplified explanation is that bind variables can inhibit the work of Oracles optimizer in a couple ways. The optimizer ends up using heuristics to generate the best explain plan rather than using information about data distribution. (from stat tables etc) The problems may have been exaggerated in our case considering the sheer volume of data (and DB links) we have...but nonetheless we've seen dramatic improvements in response time after removing all bind variables! (couple minutes down to seconds!) See Oracle technet for additional info! Cheers, Stace From: Stacy Young Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 3:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Oracle 9i and cfqueryparam problems Has anyone had any issue using TIMESTAMP as the datatype for bind variables when using cfmx 6.1 with Oracle 9i? It seems we're getting queries that run for very long periods of time...if we take out the bind variables...query only takes a few seconds! -Stace _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: RESOLVED - FYI : Oracle 9i and cfqueryparam problems
I'd imagine that would help...but in our case we rely heavily on Oracle's optimizer. We've tried to 'beat it' in the past...and there were just to many variances on how these reporting queries could be executed. In the end we were a touch faster in a few areas...much worse in many others. Cheers, Stace _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 4:32 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: RESOLVED - FYI : Oracle 9i and cfqueryparam problems It was my understanding (and I could be wrong) that if you were using hints in your select statements to force oracle to use whatever indexes (or whatever) you wanted, using bind variables should be okay.I've been able to test this using the plan table, then tracing active sessions using Bind variables, and they seem to be following my orders. Have you tried forcing the use of optimizations via /*+ index(table index_name) */ or the like? -Original Message- From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 3:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RESOLVED - FYI : Oracle 9i and cfqueryparam problems Wow, folks using CF for reporting w/ Oracle DBs should re-evaluate the use of using bind variables. For transactions and the like they are fine but in the case of reporting, bind vars can wreak havoc. The over simplified explanation is that bind variables can inhibit the work of Oracles optimizer in a couple ways. The optimizer ends up using heuristics to generate the best explain plan rather than using information about data distribution. (from stat tables etc) The problems may have been exaggerated in our case considering the sheer volume of data (and DB links) we have...but nonetheless we've seen dramatic improvements in response time after removing all bind variables! (couple minutes down to seconds!) See Oracle technet for additional info! Cheers, Stace From: Stacy Young Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 3:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Oracle 9i and cfqueryparam problems Has anyone had any issue using TIMESTAMP as the datatype for bind variables when using cfmx 6.1 with Oracle 9i? It seems we're getting queries that run for very long periods of time...if we take out the bind variables...query only takes a few seconds! -Stace _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
FYI : Resource Manager Application now has support for ColdFusion
fyi I have released a new version of my Resource Manager application. It now includes support for Livedoc based HTML docs, which includes ColdFusion. Basically, this is an application to view Macromedia documentation. More info here: http://www.markme.com/mesh/archives/004700.cfm mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
OT: FYI -- CFMX6.1 Standard on eBay (NIB)
currently only $750 CFMX 6.1 Standard -- full version not an upgrade, not edu, not NFR, etc. New in box -- still in shrink-wrap ends in 3 hours! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3655192400 This message was sent using exciteworks, http://exciteworks.com [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: FYI -- CFMX6.1 Standard on eBay (NIB)
Careful, it might actually be a pirated version.See message from another mailing list: -- Be weary of Ebay. I got stung with 2 boxes of Flash5 a couple years ago and 3 boxes of Fireworks/Dreamweaver 4.0 Studio... shrink-wrapped, non-academic, and otherwise complete and legit.. http://www.flashtampa.com/ebay/wwwpics/macromedia/1fl1fwdwbarcode.jpg http://www.flashtampa.com/ebay/wwwpics/macromedia/1fl1fwdwbarcode_1.jpg http://www.flashtampa.com/ebay/wwwpics/macromedia/1flbarcode.jpg http://www.flashtampa.com/ebay/wwwpics/macromedia/2fl2fwdwatanglebarcode .jpg http://www.flashtampa.com/ebay/wwwpics/macromedia/2fl2fwdwonedge.jpg http://www.flashtampa.com/ebay/wwwpics/macromedia/2fl2fwdwst.jpg I laid off a few employees before growing large enough to actually open up a few of them, and decided to re-list the remainders on ebay. My ebay listings got cancelled. Macromedia stepped in. I wrote back, called etc... then finally got a call from Macromedia's piracy division. Guess what? My 100% legit-looking and feeling BOXES were clones. All the way down to the Registration cards. I had to open a couple up to report over the phone what serial #'s were inside.. bingo.. they were fakes. I fedex'd ALL the boxed to MM.. it was confirmed beyond a doubt. What I had bought from 3 different, reputable sellers, was counterfeit, boxed, Macromedia Software. I paid close to $1,200 for all of it on ebay over a few months period.. the best MM could do was offer me a discount on a single upgade to MX Studio. Ergo the net effect was a loss in the $1,000 range. Be weary of software bought through channels other than the manufacturer - I know only buy downloadable software FROM the manufactures sites, as I did with MX2004 Pro Studio. -d - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 2:54 PM Subject: OT: FYI -- CFMX6.1 Standard on eBay (NIB) currently only $750 CFMX 6.1 Standard -- full version not an upgrade, not edu, not NFR, etc. New in box -- still in shrink-wrap ends in 3 hours! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3655192400 This message was sent using exciteworks, http://exciteworks.com [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: FYI -- CFMX6.1 Standard on eBay (NIB)
I solved that with a DevNet sub... :) Calvin - Original Message - From: Darron J. Schall To: CF-Talk Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 3:07 PM Subject: Re: FYI -- CFMX6.1 Standard on eBay (NIB) Careful, it might actually be a pirated version.See message from another mailing list: -- Be weary of Ebay. I got stung with 2 boxes of Flash5 a couple years ago and 3 boxes of Fireworks/Dreamweaver 4.0 Studio... shrink-wrapped, non-academic, and otherwise complete and legit.. http://www.flashtampa.com/ebay/wwwpics/macromedia/1fl1fwdwbarcode.jpg http://www.flashtampa.com/ebay/wwwpics/macromedia/1fl1fwdwbarcode_1.jpg http://www.flashtampa.com/ebay/wwwpics/macromedia/1flbarcode.jpg http://www.flashtampa.com/ebay/wwwpics/macromedia/2fl2fwdwatanglebarcode .jpg http://www.flashtampa.com/ebay/wwwpics/macromedia/2fl2fwdwonedge.jpg http://www.flashtampa.com/ebay/wwwpics/macromedia/2fl2fwdwst.jpg I laid off a few employees before growing large enough to actually open up a few of them, and decided to re-list the remainders on ebay. My ebay listings got cancelled. Macromedia stepped in. I wrote back, called etc... then finally got a call from Macromedia's piracy division. Guess what? My 100% legit-looking and feeling BOXES were clones. All the way down to the Registration cards. I had to open a couple up to report over the phone what serial #'s were inside.. bingo.. they were fakes. I fedex'd ALL the boxed to MM.. it was confirmed beyond a doubt. What I had bought from 3 different, reputable sellers, was counterfeit, boxed, Macromedia Software. I paid close to $1,200 for all of it on ebay over a few months period.. the best MM could do was offer me a discount on a single upgade to MX Studio. Ergo the net effect was a loss in the $1,000 range. Be weary of software bought through channels other than the manufacturer - I know only buy downloadable software FROM the manufactures sites, as I did with MX2004 Pro Studio. -d - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 2:54 PM Subject: OT: FYI -- CFMX6.1 Standard on eBay (NIB) currently only $750 CFMX 6.1 Standard -- full version not an upgrade, not edu, not NFR, etc. New in box -- still in shrink-wrap ends in 3 hours! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3655192400 This message was sent using exciteworks, http://exciteworks.com [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: FYI -- CFMX6.1 Standard on eBay (NIB)
I got burned on a copy of Flash MX last year.Look what I got in the mail.Advertised as all nice and pretty/legal etc. http://mysecretbase.com/ebay/ The above was created for Ebay to get my fraud protection refund.Didn't cover everything and took awhile, but at least I got some money back.Not a chance I'd take again. -- --- Matt Robertson,[EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com --- -- [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: FYI -- CFMX6.1 Standard on eBay (NIB)
let me first say that i am a HUGE supporter of Macromedia but... this also happened to me i wasnt to happy with how it was handled. long story short had a new host talking into going with coldfusion as there language as they dove into that kinda market. they bought a new copy off of ebay. One day MM called him and told him to take it all down immiediately or buy it then from them and I guess in a VERY snautty way. Didnt even give us time to find new homes for the sites which completely f*cked me. But the way that they handled it all left the host extremely giving MM the 1 finger salute. And then MM called back all nice to try and sell it to him. Now they would have bought it then from them if it had been handled differently but needless to say we just lost a few more developers to php .net. Now I understand MM's point but they should also understand some of ours. If nothing else they should put notices up on their site warning ppl of the fraud copies. On the other hand ppl are spending their hard earned money to try and stick with MM products instead of going to the open source world so they try and get it as cheap as possible but this happens and they get screwed and end up at php of course. do i have a solution? no and i still love MM to death but they need to handle things better then this. maybe have some type of program to help the ppl who got screwed. Maybe even a payment plan for those who just got screwed but need a little help getting it back, not just a fu and buy or product or else. how many copies of say coldfusion do they give away a month to ppl at user groups? most of these ppl will never even need it for more than a developer and MM can do that so why not help the ppl who really need it out? anyways, christian and fellow MM'rs other than that you guys have a GREAT company and I for 1 appriciate all u guys do for us. But the chain is only as strong as the weakest link that link is pretty weak. I got burned on a copy of Flash MX last year.Look what I got in the mail.Advertised as all nice and pretty/legal etc. http://mysecretbase.com/ebay/ The above was created for Ebay to get my fraud protection refund. Didn't cover everything and took awhile, but at least I got some money back.Not a chance I'd take again. -- --- Matt Robertson,[EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com --- -- [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: FYI -- CFMX6.1 Standard on eBay (NIB)
My view is that if that package is indeed pirated or otherwise illegal, Macromedia should contact eBay. This is done regularly by other software publishers and the result is that eBay will pull the sale immediately. That they didn't would indicate to me and others that the sale was a legitimate one. The seller does not indicate if this was purchased from a legitimate supplier and is a license previously purchased but unused or was won in a user group raffle. No one has explained thus far as to why a purchase from this channel would end up being an illegal license. == Stop spam on your domain, Anti-spam solutions http://www.clickdoug.com/mailfilter.cfm For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com == Aspire to Inspire before you Retire or Expire! : : long story short : had a new host talking into going with coldfusion as there language as : they dove into that kinda market. : they bought a new copy off of ebay. : One day MM called him and told him to take it all down immiediately or buy : it then from them and I guess in a VERY snautty way. Didnt even give us : time to find new homes for the sites which completely f*cked me. : But the way that they handled it all left the host extremely giving MM the : 1 finger salute. And then MM called back all nice to try and sell it to : him. Now they would have bought it then from them if it had been handled : differently but needless to say we just lost a few more developers to php : .net. : Now I understand MM's point but they should also understand some of ours. : If nothing else they should put notices up on their site warning ppl of : the fraud copies. : On the other hand ppl are spending their hard earned money to try and : stick with MM products instead of going to the open source world so they : try and get it as cheap as possible but this happens and they get screwed : and end up at php of course. : : do i have a solution? no : and i still love MM to death but they need to handle things better then : this. maybe have some type of program to help the ppl who got screwed. : Maybe even a payment plan for those who just got screwed but need a little : help getting it back, not just a fu and buy or product or else. : : how many copies of say coldfusion do they give away a month to ppl at user : groups? most of these ppl will never even need it for more than a : developer and MM can do that so why not help the ppl who really need it : out? : About 2 copies per year/: : [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: FYI -- CFMX6.1 Standard on eBay (NIB)
i dont know either doug but they didnt even ask about the seller they just treated the unknowing buyer like a criminal but they should go after the sellers. I sold a copy of ms access on there and believe me M$ sure as hell checked it out to make sure it was legit. but they should do something cause they are loosing legitemate customers and thats a shame cause they are such a good company. case in point now is that the host who this happened to just got some major accounts and would have bought 4 full sets of studio pro and 2 coldfusion servers but they bought php nuke or something cause of the treatment they recieved. My view is that if that package is indeed pirated or otherwise illegal, Macromedia should contact eBay. This is done regularly by other software publishers and the result is that eBay will pull the sale immediately. That they didn't would indicate to me and others that the sale was a legitimate one. The seller does not indicate if this was purchased from a legitimate supplier and is a license previously purchased but unused or was won in a user group raffle. No one has explained thus far as to why a purchase from this channel would end up being an illegal license. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
fyi: CFLIB
CFLib is down due to a hardware issue. Sorry folks. I'll ping when it is back up. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: fyi: CFLIB
bummer! let me know if you would like to get a mirror going.I'd donate some space to that resource... Josh --- Exciteworks -- expert hosting for less! http://exciteworks.com reseller plans available Raymond Camden wrote: CFLib is down due to a hardware issue. Sorry folks. I'll ping when it is back up. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: fyi: CFLIB
As a general reminder - you can always (err, when the site is up) go to the Library Generator tool and download _everything_. This would give you one huge file that has all 750+ UDFs on the site. That way you always have a local copy. (Of course, don't stop visiting the site or I won't earn a penny from Google. ;) [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: FYI
On Tuesday 07 Oct 2003 20:29 pm, Brad Roberts wrote: That's exactly what I thought.Seems like developers should be able to sue for the time it's going to take us to update our code.I'd say our combined time would cost somewhere in the ballpark of $520 million, give or take. Nope you can't, read the license you agreed to when you used IE. Thought the is a case going on atm, which seeks to have restrictive licenses like MS's ruled illegal. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: FYI
I'm thinking that Brad was thinking about suing Eolas, not Microsoft... - Calvin - Original Message - From: Thomas Chiverton To: CF-Talk Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 5:40 AM Subject: Re: FYI On Tuesday 07 Oct 2003 20:29 pm, Brad Roberts wrote: That's exactly what I thought.Seems like developers should be able to sue for the time it's going to take us to update our code.I'd say our combined time would cost somewhere in the ballpark of $520 million, give or take. Nope you can't, read the license you agreed to when you used IE. Thought the is a case going on atm, which seeks to have restrictive licenses like MS's ruled illegal. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: FYI
On Wednesday 08 Oct 2003 13:01 pm, Calvin Ward wrote: I'm thinking that Brad was thinking about suing Eolas, not Microsoft... On what grounds ? -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: FYI
I'm also thinking it was more of a musing than anything else. - Calvin - Original Message - From: Thomas Chiverton To: CF-Talk Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 8:20 AM Subject: Re: FYI On Wednesday 08 Oct 2003 13:01 pm, Calvin Ward wrote: I'm thinking that Brad was thinking about suing Eolas, not Microsoft... On what grounds ? -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
FYI
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/10/07/microsoft.eolas.ap/index.html ...tony tony weeg senior web applications architect navtrak, inc. www.navtrak.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] 410.548.2337 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: FYI
Workarounds are already being posted... http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/activecontent http://msdn.microsoft.com/ieupdate/ Cheers, Jeff Garza - Original Message - From: Tony Weeg To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 10:05 AM Subject: FYI http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/10/07/microsoft.eolas.ap/index.html ...tony tony weeg senior web applications architect navtrak, inc. www.navtrak.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] 410.548.2337 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: FYI
I was wondering when this thread was going to start. So Adobe patented the toolbar, amazon the 'one click', and now this guy has a patent on embedding multimedia into a web page. Whoever owns the patent on 'being a dick' should sue Eolas for infringement. Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 1:06 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: FYI http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/10/07/microsoft.eolas.ap/index.htm l ...tony tony weeg senior web applications architect navtrak, inc. www.navtrak.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] 410.548.2337 _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: FYI
Here is the link to our Active Content Developer Center to help developers prepare for upcoming changes in Internet Explorer: http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/activecontent/ http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/activecontent/ And the link for our Active Content Update FAQ: http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/activecontent/faq.html http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/activecontent/faq.html The Active Content Update Forums (where it is best to discuss this issue): http://webforums.macromedia.com/activecontent/ http://webforums.macromedia.com/activecontent/ Also, Microsoft has quite a bit of information, as well, and you can go ahead and download the Pre-Release Internet Explorer Bits for testing (don't worry -- the actual browser won't be released until early next year): http://msdn.microsoft.com/ieupdate/ http://msdn.microsoft.com/ieupdate/ Hope that helps! Christine -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 1:06 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: FYI http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/10/07/microsoft.eolas.ap/index.html ...tony tony weeg senior web applications architect navtrak, inc. www.navtrak.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] 410.548.2337 _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: FYI
Can anyone clarify that the reason the js workaround will work is because the lawsuit had only to do with html embedding? If a _javascript_ does the actual embedding, this bypasses the patent? -- jon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tuesday, October 7, 2003, 1:58:40 PM, you wrote: CL Here is the link to our Active Content Developer Center to help developers prepare for upcoming changes in Internet Explorer: CLhttp://www.macromedia.com/devnet/activecontent/ http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/activecontent/ CL And the link for our Active Content Update FAQ: CLhttp://www.macromedia.com/devnet/activecontent/faq.html http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/activecontent/faq.html CL The Active Content Update Forums (where it is best to discuss this issue): CLhttp://webforums.macromedia.com/activecontent/ http://webforums.macromedia.com/activecontent/ CL Also, Microsoft has quite a bit of information, as well, and you can go ahead and download the Pre-Release Internet Explorer Bits for testing (don't worry -- the actual browser won't be released CL until early next year): CLhttp://msdn.microsoft.com/ieupdate/ http://msdn.microsoft.com/ieupdate/ CL Hope that helps! CL Christine [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: FYI
Now that is not relavant, but very funny. Paul Giesenhagen QuillDesign - Original Message - From: Adam Wayne Lehman To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 12:32 PM Subject: RE: FYI I was wondering when this thread was going to start. So Adobe patented the toolbar, amazon the 'one click', and now this guy has a patent on embedding multimedia into a web page. Whoever owns the patent on 'being a dick' should sue Eolas for infringement. Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 1:06 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: FYI http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/10/07/microsoft.eolas.ap/index.htm l ...tony tony weeg senior web applications architect navtrak, inc. www.navtrak.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] 410.548.2337 _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: FYI
Because the .js include uses an external file. The key being external. Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -Original Message- From: jon hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 2:12 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: FYI Can anyone clarify that the reason the js workaround will work is because the lawsuit had only to do with html embedding? If a _javascript_ does the actual embedding, this bypasses the patent? -- jon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tuesday, October 7, 2003, 1:58:40 PM, you wrote: CL Here is the link to our Active Content Developer Center to help developers prepare for upcoming changes in Internet Explorer: CLhttp://www.macromedia.com/devnet/activecontent/ http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/activecontent/ CL And the link for our Active Content Update FAQ: CLhttp://www.macromedia.com/devnet/activecontent/faq.html http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/activecontent/faq.html CL The Active Content Update Forums (where it is best to discuss this issue): CLhttp://webforums.macromedia.com/activecontent/ http://webforums.macromedia.com/activecontent/ CL Also, Microsoft has quite a bit of information, as well, and you can go ahead and download the Pre-Release Internet Explorer Bits for testing (don't worry -- the actual browser won't be released CL until early next year): CLhttp://msdn.microsoft.com/ieupdate/ http://msdn.microsoft.com/ieupdate/ CL Hope that helps! CL Christine _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: FYI
I haven't seen anything about how this affects Netscape, AOL, Opera, etc. Aren't they infringing on Eola$ patent? -Brad -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 1:06 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: FYI http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/10/07/microsoft.eolas.ap/index.html ...tony tony weeg senior web applications architect navtrak, inc. www.navtrak.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] 410.548.2337 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: FYI
Eolas hasn't sued them.Copyrights don't automatically protect the holder, they just give the holder the right to sue over infringement.If Eolas sues them, they'll very likely lose (like MS) and have to change their browsers. However, I suspect targetting MS is a political action, more than a real concern, so it probably won't happen. barneyb -Original Message- From: Brad Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 12:05 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: FYI I haven't seen anything about how this affects Netscape, AOL, Opera, etc. Aren't they infringing on Eola$ patent? -Brad -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 1:06 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: FYI http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/10/07/microsoft.eolas.ap/index.html ...tony tony weeg senior web applications architect navtrak, inc. www.navtrak.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] 410.548.2337 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: FYI
I haven't seen anything about how this affects Netscape, AOL, Opera, etc. Aren't they infringing on Eola$ patent? Yes, they are, but unless Eolas pursues them for doing this, they're free to continue. It is very possible that Eolas will not pursue them - it's not like they have any money (with the exception of AOL), and the Eolas guys have indicated previously that they're interested in seeing a restructuring of the browser market, such as it is. As I understand it, patents aren't like trademarks and copyrights, which must be vigorously defended if they're to be retained by their owners. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: FYI
Whoever owns the patent on 'being a dick' should sue Eolas for infringement. There's way too much prior art for anyone to get that patented. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: FYI
I suspect targetting MS is a political action That's exactly what I thought.Seems like developers should be able to sue for the time it's going to take us to update our code.I'd say our combined time would cost somewhere in the ballpark of $520 million, give or take. What a pain in the Eolass! -Brad -Original Message- From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 3:21 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: FYI Eolas hasn't sued them.Copyrights don't automatically protect the holder, they just give the holder the right to sue over infringement.If Eolas sues them, they'll very likely lose (like MS) and have to change their browsers. However, I suspect targetting MS is a political action, more than a real concern, so it probably won't happen. barneyb -Original Message- From: Brad Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 12:05 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: FYI I haven't seen anything about how this affects Netscape, AOL, Opera, etc. Aren't they infringing on Eola$ patent? -Brad -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 1:06 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: FYI http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/10/07/microsoft.eolas.ap/index.html ...tony tony weeg senior web applications architect navtrak, inc. www.navtrak.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] 410.548.2337 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: FYI
Whoops.That should be 'patent', not 'copyright'. -Original Message- From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 12:21 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: FYI Eolas hasn't sued them.Copyrights don't automatically protect the holder, they just give the holder the right to sue over infringement.If Eolas sues them, they'll very likely lose (like MS) and have to change their browsers. However, I suspect targetting MS is a political action, more than a real concern, so it probably won't happen. barneyb -Original Message- From: Brad Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 12:05 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: FYI I haven't seen anything about how this affects Netscape, AOL, Opera, etc. Aren't they infringing on Eola$ patent? -Brad -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 1:06 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: FYI http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/10/07/microsoft.eolas.ap/index.html ...tony tony weeg senior web applications architect navtrak, inc. www.navtrak.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] 410.548.2337 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: FYI (is: Eolas patent)
At 12:05 PM 10/7/3, Brad Roberts wrote: I haven't seen anything about how this affects Netscape, AOL, Opera, etc. Aren't they infringing on Eola$ patent? That's a legal issue, decided by lawyers. I'm not qualified to speak on that, although I'm quite interested in the technical issues of accommodating Microsoft's browser changes which attempt to accommodate the judge's ruling on the understanding of the patent, and also the social issues of how people will respond to this new browser: http://www.markme.com/jd/archives/003426.cfm jd John Dowdell, Macromedia Developer Support, San Francisco (Best to reply on-list, to avoid my mighty spam filters!) Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ Column: http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/jd_forum/ Technical daily diary: http://www.macromedia.com/go/blog_jd [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
studio products review~ fyi
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FYI: ColdFusion MX Updater 3 released
The good people at MM have released the latest CFMX Updater. Full detail here: http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/special/updater/faq/ Cheers! == Peter Tilbrook Internet Applications Developer Australian Building Codes Board GPO Box 9839 CANBERRA ACT 2601 AUSTRALIA WWW: http://www.abcb.gov.au/ E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telephone: +61 (02) 6213 6731 Mobile: 0439 401 823 Facsimile: +61 (02) 6213 7287 ** The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments to it, is intended for the use of addressee and is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose, read, forward, copy or retain any of the information. If you have received this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify the sender by return e-mail or telephone. The Commonwealth does not warrant that any attachments are free from viruses or any other defects. You assume all liability for any loss, damage, or other consequences which may arise from opening or using the attachments. ** ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
FYI: Above and beyond the call of duty
I was on the phone to Mike (long distance) for quite a while - never thought to tell him to install CFMX as standalone (I'm running it fine with MX). Once again Dave Watts has saved someone's sanity... I'm sure you're all pretty well sick of my problem, and to tell the truth, so am I. But you'll be glad to know it's finally ended. Not solved, but with the amazing help of Dave Watts from CF-TALK, we've made a workaround and its no longer a problem for me. The problem: Jrun is just not doing what it should. When I try to get CFMX to connect to IIs the jrun server (which is definitely running) can't be found by the gui to connect to it. Everything I've tried, Chris Kief has tried, and Dave Watts has tried has failed to make this jrun connection work. The Solution: Last night, for about 4-5 hours, Dave Watts from Figleaf Software connected to my desktop in a VNC session and we tried one thing after another. Or more accurately, he did one thing after another while I watched. Dave is an extraordinarily generous man, and apart from the obvious expert knowledge and problem solving skills that are so familiar on CF-TALK, he gave up time to help me, and when it got difficult, he didn't give up. When I gave him the chance to get out and say Good luck he persisted and kept on helping. I am very indebted to him and we are very lucky to have such a person in the ColdFusion community. The answer was staring me in the face the whole time, and I was too close to it to see. IT seems really stupid now, but it was like a light going on. Suddenly, in a burst of inspiration, a question arose ... DO I REALLY NEED TO USE IIs? I know it seems stupid from this perspective but it had never occurred to me before that I mightn't need IIs, and it didn't occur to Dave to ask why I needed IIs. But I can't think of a reason why I need it. SO the solution: Don't use IIs. LOL!!! Yes, the CFMX web server isn't as sexy, and can't use WinXP authentication, and to create virtual directories I have to edit a xml file, but it works fine. So I'm doing without IIs, and the problem, while it hasn't gone away, it doesn't matter any more. One day I'll rebuild my WinXPPro and I guess I'll have another go at installing it all then, but in the mean time I'm past the obstacle and moving on. Thanks everyone for their suggestions, help and advice, and for giving a damn. Now I'll shut up for a while. Cheers, Michael Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP Webworks. ** The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments to it, is intended for the use of addressee and is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose, read, forward, copy or retain any of the information. If you have received this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify the sender by return e-mail or telephone. The Commonwealth does not warrant that any attachments are free from viruses or any other defects. You assume all liability for any loss, damage, or other consequences which may arise from opening or using the attachments. ** ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Updater2 FYI
I just installed the 2nd Updater. Started getting a funny error on this line of code: cfsetting enablecfoutputonly=no RequestTimeout = 500 It used to work (CFMX - updater1), but now it seems that it does not , but this does: cfsetting RequestTimeout = 500 enablecfoutputonly=no Just FYI, Brook ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
FYI: Keynote/Agenda Updates at MXDU
MX DownUnder (at http://mxdu.com): Hello All! Just in case your eyes have not been glued to the MXDU website, a couple of new things: //KEYNOTE SPEAKERS We now have a slightly different line-up for our Keynote Speakers Mike Chambers Ben Forta Sean Corfield See the Keynote Page for more info on them and their talks... //AGENDA Get a better idea of who is when, where (and why?). Session times, track info, plan your trip! //STUDENT DISCOUNT Next week the site will have a student discount button on the online registration form. //SPECIAL EVENT NIGHT 1 If you have a special someone that you want to drag along to the MXDU Special Event night 1 (no, we still aren't telling) we can arrange extra tickets for you. HobNob with the BigWigs. Just drop me an email. One month to go... ;) Kind Regards, Samantha Stevens *** MXDU 2003 Event Manager www.mxdu.com - The Asia-Pac DevCon. Daemon Internet Consultants P.O.Box 263, Sydney 2001 (ph) 61 2 9380 4673 (fax) 61 2 9380 4204 (mob) 0411494414 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** --- You are currently subscribed to mxdu-ann as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments to it, is intended for the use of addressee and is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose, read, forward, copy or retain any of the information. If you have received this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify the sender by return e-mail or telephone. The Commonwealth does not warrant that any attachments are free from viruses or any other defects. You assume all liability for any loss, damage, or other consequences which may arise from opening or using the attachments. ** ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
FYI: Review on MM Contribute
Webmonkey has done a review on MM's Contribute product. http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/02/45/index4a.html Dave Adams CFUG Ottawa ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
FYI : DevCon Flash Registration Apps online
There were some requests for this when we originally announced DevCon. There are now live demos of both of the DevCon Flash Registration Apps online. you can find more information here: http://radio.weblogs.com/0106797/2002/08/21.html#a249 mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: FYI : DevCon Flash Registration Apps online
-Original Message- From: Mike Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 11:19 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: FYI : DevCon Flash Registration Apps online There were some requests for this when we originally announced DevCon. There are now live demos of both of the DevCon Flash Registration Apps online. you can find more information here: http://radio.weblogs.com/0106797/2002/08/21.html#a249 mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
FYI: Apache 2.0.40
Looks like someone botched the Apache windows build installer: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-httpd-devm=102916944222744w=2 It's been taken down from httpd.apache.org Perhaps it's not a Macromedia problem. ~Todd -- Todd Rafferty ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - http://www.web-rat.com/ | Team Macromedia Volunteer for ColdFusion | http://www.macromedia.com/support/forums/team_macromedia/ | http://www.flashCFM.com/ - webRat (Moderator)| http://www.ultrashock.com/ - webRat (Back-end Moderator) | __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
FYI: Designer Developer Center Update -- 8/1
Check out the new stuff on The Designer Developer Center at http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/ http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/ Below are some of the items I think would be most interesting to the CFers, but there's lots more that will probably appeal to CFers too (especially those who had questions about using Flash as the UI for your webapps, and those who are using multiple Macromedia products): Web Services Topic Page http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/topics/web_services.html http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/topics/web_services.html Migrating from Macromedia ColdFusion Studio to Macromedia Dreamweaver MX Charles Nadeau Yes, you can hold on to your ColdFusion Studio work habits in Dreamweaver MX. http://www.macromedia.com/support/dreamweaver/programs/migrating_cfs_to_dwmx/ http://www.macromedia.com/support/dreamweaver/programs/migrating_cfs_to_dwmx/ Leveraging Amazon.com Web Services with ColdFusion MX Jeffry Houser Use custom functions and CFCs to invoke web services at Amazon.com. http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/mx/coldfusion/articles/wsamazon.html http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/mx/coldfusion/articles/wsamazon.html ColdFusion MX Web Service Pages with Dreamweaver MX Chris Bedford Integrate web services into your web pages using ColdFusion and Dreamweaver MX http://www.macromedia.com/support/dreamweaver/content/websrv_cf/ http://www.macromedia.com/support/dreamweaver/content/websrv_cf/ Creating CFCs and Web Services in Dreamweaver MX Matt Brown Use the Dreamweaver MX interface to create, generate, and modify these new coding features. http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/mx/coldfusion/articles/creating_cfcs.html http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/mx/coldfusion/articles/creating_cfcs.html Learn the Basics on Consuming Web Services David Golden Consume web services in your Macromedia Flash applications with no server-side programming. http://www.macromedia.com/support/flash/flashremoting/consuming_ws_using_cfmx/ http://www.macromedia.com/support/flash/flashremoting/consuming_ws_using_cfmx/ ColdFusion MX: The New Way to Do Web Services Stacy Young Construct a prototype credit card authorization web service using a ColdFusion component. http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/mx/coldfusion/articles/webservices.pdf http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/mx/coldfusion/articles/webservices.pdf Creating a Web Service Application Using Dreamweaver MX George Fox Take advantage of Google's popular search web service with the new cfgraph tag and the ColdFusionMX task scheduler. http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/mx/dreamweaver/articles/webservice.html http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/mx/dreamweaver/articles/webservice.html Creating the Pet Market ColdFusion Components in Dreamweaver MX Matt Brown See how Pet Market uses two CFCs to handle localized text and address/zip code lookups. http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/mx/blueprint/articles/petmarket_dwmx.html http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/mx/blueprint/articles/petmarket_dwmx.html Logged In: DevCon 2002 Architecting a new web experience Greg Stern Designer and developer roles are merging. DevCon 2002. http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/logged_in/ http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/logged_in/ JD's Forum: How to Protect Digital Content John Dowdell Just how safe is your digital intellectual property? http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/jd_forum/ http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/jd_forum/ Architecture Blogging with Sean Corfield Sean Corfield Sean Corfield gives an An Architect's View of macro and micro application development issues. http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/mx/coldfusion/articles/scblog.html http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/mx/coldfusion/articles/scblog.html http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/articles/scblog.html Vernon Viehe ColdFusion Community Manager Developer Relations Macromedia, Inc. Online diary: http://vvmx.blogspot.com/ http://vvmx.blogspot.com/ __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
