Re: Migrate back and forth between cf7 and cf8 on IIS

2012-03-10 Thread Al Musella, DPM

An easier way may be to set up a virtual PC with the version of cf 
you use least often.. leave the other one on your computer..
Then just launch the virtual pc when you need that version. Set up a 
hosts file on your computer so cf8.mydomain.com goes to the virtual pc.  


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Migrate back and forth between cf7 and cf8 on IIS

2012-03-09 Thread daniel kessler

I should begin this by saying that I am not a server admin by any means and I 
am a novice at IIS.

I've been on CF7 for my app for the past year.  I have the developer cf7 
installed on the IIS on XP.  It's been working great as my localHost.

I've now been given a site that is on CF8.  I've chosen to not have the two 
servers run at the same time if I can stop one and restart the other.  So I 
installed CF8, changed my Home directory in IIS, stopped the cf7 services, 
restarted the server and it went to CF8 fine.

I had a problem returning to CF7.  I switched the home directory in IIS, 
disabled cf8 services, enabled cf7 services, restarted the IIS server.

I now receive the error on localHost of Could not connect to JRun Server.  I 
don't know what to do next.  Any thoughts?

In the end, I need a process for switching between the two setups.

thank you. 

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Re: Migrate back and forth between cf7 and cf8 on IIS

2012-03-09 Thread Brian Thornton

What services are running?
On Mar 9, 2012 11:47 AM, daniel kessler dani...@umd.edu wrote:


 I should begin this by saying that I am not a server admin by any means
 and I am a novice at IIS.

 I've been on CF7 for my app for the past year.  I have the developer cf7
 installed on the IIS on XP.  It's been working great as my localHost.

 I've now been given a site that is on CF8.  I've chosen to not have the
 two servers run at the same time if I can stop one and restart the other.
  So I installed CF8, changed my Home directory in IIS, stopped the cf7
 services, restarted the server and it went to CF8 fine.

 I had a problem returning to CF7.  I switched the home directory in IIS,
 disabled cf8 services, enabled cf7 services, restarted the IIS server.

 I now receive the error on localHost of Could not connect to JRun
 Server.  I don't know what to do next.  Any thoughts?

 In the end, I need a process for switching between the two setups.

 thank you.

 

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Re: Migrate back and forth between cf7 and cf8 on IIS

2012-03-09 Thread daniel kessler

What services are running?

They're the CF ones that are installed.
 
For cf7:
ColdFusion MX 7 Application Server
ColdFusion MX 7 ODBC Agent
ColdFusion MX 7 Search Server

For cf8:
ColdFusion 8 .NET Service
ColdFusion 8 Application Server
ColdFusion 8 ODBC Agent
ColdFusion 8 ODBC Server

At the moment, since I intend to have CF7 running, it's the first set.  
Otherwise, my machine is pretty generic.

Did I answer the question? 

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Re: Migrate back and forth between cf7 and cf8 on IIS

2012-03-09 Thread Brian Thornton

Check your services for jrun... You may need to copy your web inf over
On Mar 9, 2012 11:51 AM, daniel kessler dani...@umd.edu wrote:


 What services are running?

 They're the CF ones that are installed.

 For cf7:
 ColdFusion MX 7 Application Server
 ColdFusion MX 7 ODBC Agent
 ColdFusion MX 7 Search Server

 For cf8:
 ColdFusion 8 .NET Service
 ColdFusion 8 Application Server
 ColdFusion 8 ODBC Agent
 ColdFusion 8 ODBC Server

 At the moment, since I intend to have CF7 running, it's the first set.
  Otherwise, my machine is pretty generic.

 Did I answer the question?

 

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Re: Migrate back and forth between cf7 and cf8 on IIS

2012-03-09 Thread daniel kessler

What services are running?
On Mar 9, 2012 11:47 AM, daniel kessler dani...@umd.edu wrote:

In going through my web site configuration - application configuration, I see 
a bunch of paths that go through ColdFusion8 and end with jrun.dll.  Could this 
be the problem?

Will I need to delete these and import the cf7 ones each time I switch?  oy. 

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Re: Migrate back and forth between cf7 and cf8 on IIS

2012-03-09 Thread daniel kessler

Check your services for jrun... You may need to copy your web inf over
On Mar 9, 2012 11:51 AM, daniel kessler dani...@umd.edu wrote:

I didn't see a service that started with the term jrun.  i don't think that I 
see any with jrun in the name anywhere.  I do see a Java Quick Starter. 

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RE: Migrate back and forth between cf7 and cf8 on IIS

2012-03-09 Thread Brook Davies

Just set the ISAPI paths at the website level for the CF7 site to point to
your CF7 install directory (specifically at the jrun dll's)..

Brook

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Subject: Re: Migrate back and forth between cf7 and cf8 on IIS


What services are running?
On Mar 9, 2012 11:47 AM, daniel kessler dani...@umd.edu wrote:

In going through my web site configuration - application configuration, I
see a bunch of paths that go through ColdFusion8 and end with jrun.dll.
Could this be the problem?

Will I need to delete these and import the cf7 ones each time I switch?  oy.




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Re: Migrate back and forth between cf7 and cf8 on IIS

2012-03-09 Thread daniel kessler

Just set the ISAPI paths at the website level for the CF7 site to point to
your CF7 install directory (specifically at the jrun dll's)..


ok, that worked.  Thank you very much.

Is that the sort of thing that can be adjusted using a .bat file?  I don't know 
much about them.  However, I'm trying to make switching between these two 
environments as easy as possible.

I appreciate the assistance everyone.

daniel 

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Re: Migrate back and forth between cf7 and cf8 on IIS

2012-03-09 Thread Andrew Scott

Just a heads up that I wrote a blog about something like this the other
day, although it is geared for ColdFusion 8 and ColdFusion 9. There should
be no reason why you can't apply this same method to ColdFusion 7 and
ColdFusion 8.

http://www.andyscott.id.au/2012/3/6/Developing-Apps-to-work-with-ColdFusion-8-and-ColdFusion-9-with-multi-instance-ColdFusion-install



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On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 4:20 AM, daniel kessler dani...@umd.edu wrote:


 Just set the ISAPI paths at the website level for the CF7 site to point to
 your CF7 install directory (specifically at the jrun dll's)..


 ok, that worked.  Thank you very much.

 Is that the sort of thing that can be adjusted using a .bat file?  I don't
 know much about them.  However, I'm trying to make switching between these
 two environments as easy as possible.

 I appreciate the assistance everyone.

 daniel

 

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Re: Migrate back and forth between cf7 and cf8 on IIS

2012-03-09 Thread Russ Michaels

why not just setup separate sites and set each site to use the appropriate
cf version instead of keep switching one site between different home
directories and cf version ?

On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote:


 Just a heads up that I wrote a blog about something like this the other
 day, although it is geared for ColdFusion 8 and ColdFusion 9. There should
 be no reason why you can't apply this same method to ColdFusion 7 and
 ColdFusion 8.


 http://www.andyscott.id.au/2012/3/6/Developing-Apps-to-work-with-ColdFusion-8-and-ColdFusion-9-with-multi-instance-ColdFusion-install



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 On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 4:20 AM, daniel kessler dani...@umd.edu wrote:

 
  Just set the ISAPI paths at the website level for the CF7 site to point
 to
  your CF7 install directory (specifically at the jrun dll's)..
 
 
  ok, that worked.  Thank you very much.
 
  Is that the sort of thing that can be adjusted using a .bat file?  I
 don't
  know much about them.  However, I'm trying to make switching between
 these
  two environments as easy as possible.
 
  I appreciate the assistance everyone.
 
  daniel
 
 

 

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Re: Migrate back and forth between cf7 and cf8 on IIS

2012-03-09 Thread daniel kessler

why not just setup separate sites and set each site to use the appropriate
cf version instead of keep switching one site between different home
directories and cf version ?

It's my understanding that the IIS can only do one site (I'm in XP).  To do 
more, I have to buy the IIS Server.  Please correct me and tell me that I am 
wrong.   Please!
As I said, I'm a novice with IIS.  However, I couldn't find a new site 
button. 

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Re: Migrate back and forth between cf7 and cf8 on IIS

2012-03-09 Thread daniel kessler

thank you Andrew; I'll read that. 

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Re: Migrate back and forth between cf7 and cf8 on IIS

2012-03-09 Thread Carl Von Stetten

He's on Windows XP and is thus limited to one site in IIS.  Man I love 
multiple IIS sites in Windows 7!
-Carl

On 3/9/2012 10:04 AM, Russ Michaels wrote:
 why not just setup separate sites and set each site to use the appropriate
 cf version instead of keep switching one site between different home
 directories and cf version ?

 On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Andrew Scottandr...@andyscott.id.auwrote:

 Just a heads up that I wrote a blog about something like this the other
 day, although it is geared for ColdFusion 8 and ColdFusion 9. There should
 be no reason why you can't apply this same method to ColdFusion 7 and
 ColdFusion 8.


 http://www.andyscott.id.au/2012/3/6/Developing-Apps-to-work-with-ColdFusion-8-and-ColdFusion-9-with-multi-instance-ColdFusion-install



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 On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 4:20 AM, daniel kesslerdani...@umd.edu  wrote:

 Just set the ISAPI paths at the website level for the CF7 site to point
 to
 your CF7 install directory (specifically at the jrun dll's)..

 ok, that worked.  Thank you very much.

 Is that the sort of thing that can be adjusted using a .bat file?  I
 don't
 know much about them.  However, I'm trying to make switching between
 these
 two environments as easy as possible.

 I appreciate the assistance everyone.

 daniel



 

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RE: Migrate back and forth between cf7 and cf8 on IIS

2012-03-09 Thread Brook Davies

Hey Daniel,

If you set it at the site level then you should be able to have different
settings for each website. Not sure if you would need a bat file to the
changes. But you could probably script it by using the connectors that CF
comes with (c:\coldfusion7\bin\connectors\IIS_connector.bat) or using some
of the code in  those bat files and specifying the correct site ID. 

Note, there are also cfstart.bat and cfstop.bat you could script the whole
thing...

Brook


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Subject: Re: Migrate back and forth between cf7 and cf8 on IIS


Just set the ISAPI paths at the website level for the CF7 site to point 
to your CF7 install directory (specifically at the jrun dll's)..


ok, that worked.  Thank you very much.

Is that the sort of thing that can be adjusted using a .bat file?  I don't
know much about them.  However, I'm trying to make switching between these
two environments as easy as possible.

I appreciate the assistance everyone.

daniel 



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Re: Migrate back and forth between cf7 and cf8 on IIS

2012-03-09 Thread Gerald Guido

 It's my understanding that the IIS can only do one site (I'm in XP).
 To do more, I have to buy the IIS Server.

That is correct. That is also why I moved to  Apache some years ago. I have
done what you are looking to do in the past and it is very easy to do with
Apache. Actually there are many ways to do it but the easiest way is to
have two installs of a portable *AMP stack like XAMPP or my personal
favorite, Uniform Server.

All you would need to do is configure each version of CF to work with its
own Apache install with the Web Server Configuration Tool and use bat files
to turn on and off the services. Like so:


net stop MySQLS1
net stop ApacheS1
net stop ColdFusion 9 Application Server

net start ColdFusion 10 Application Server
net start MySQLS2
net start ApacheS2


That way you can start and stop these servers with a double click.

Of course there are many other ways to accomplish this. I have Railo, OBD
and ACF all running seamlessly on the same Apache install. It was not all
that hard to do once you get the hang of Apache

HTH

G!

On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 1:13 PM, daniel kessler dani...@umd.edu wrote:

 It's my understanding that the IIS can only do one site (I'm in XP).  To
 do more, I have to buy the IIS Server.  Please correct me and tell me that
 I am wrong.   Please!
 As I said, I'm a novice with IIS.  However, I couldn't find a new site
 button.




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Re: Migrate back and forth between cf7 and cf8 on IIS

2012-03-09 Thread Russ Michaels

Dan,

there are a couple of options to get round that.
 - Switch to Apache.
- Use this to manage multiple sites In IIS on windows XP:
http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/10561/IIsAdmin-NET-Create-Multiple-Web-Sites-Under-Windo

The best solution would be to upgrade to windows 7 which includes IIS 7
which allows infinite sites and is miles better than IIS 5 and can
certainly do all the things that most people told you to use Apache for
previously, not to mention that windows 7 is also a big improvement as well.
If you can afford £300 per year, you might want to consider subscribing to
the Microsoft Action pack, which gives you thousands of $ worth of
Microsoft software such as windows, office, sql server, small business
server, lynx and much more.

Russ

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Re: Migrate back and forth between cf7 and cf8 on IIS

2012-03-09 Thread Andrew Scott

Or you can look into the Microsoft program BizSpark :-)


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 Dan,

 there are a couple of options to get round that.
  - Switch to Apache.
 - Use this to manage multiple sites In IIS on windows XP:

 http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/10561/IIsAdmin-NET-Create-Multiple-Web-Sites-Under-Windo

 The best solution would be to upgrade to windows 7 which includes IIS 7
 which allows infinite sites and is miles better than IIS 5 and can
 certainly do all the things that most people told you to use Apache for
 previously, not to mention that windows 7 is also a big improvement as
 well.
 If you can afford £300 per year, you might want to consider subscribing to
 the Microsoft Action pack, which gives you thousands of $ worth of
 Microsoft software such as windows, office, sql server, small business
 server, lynx and much more.

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Re: Migrate back and forth between cf7 and cf8 on IIS

2012-03-09 Thread Gerald Guido

 Or you can look into the Microsoft program BizSpark :-)

I forgot about that. The Website spark allows you to use Windows Server 08
for free for a year or two.

http://www.microsoft.com/web/websitespark/

G!

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 Or you can look into the Microsoft program BizSpark :-)


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 wrote:

 
  Dan,
 
  there are a couple of options to get round that.
   - Switch to Apache.
  - Use this to manage multiple sites In IIS on windows XP:
 
 
 http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/10561/IIsAdmin-NET-Create-Multiple-Web-Sites-Under-Windo
 
  The best solution would be to upgrade to windows 7 which includes IIS 7
  which allows infinite sites and is miles better than IIS 5 and can
  certainly do all the things that most people told you to use Apache for
  previously, not to mention that windows 7 is also a big improvement as
  well.
  If you can afford £300 per year, you might want to consider subscribing
 to
  the Microsoft Action pack, which gives you thousands of $ worth of
  Microsoft software such as windows, office, sql server, small business
  server, lynx and much more.
 
  Russ
 
 

 

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Re: Migrate back and forth between cf7 and cf8 on IIS

2012-03-09 Thread Larry Lyons

 why not just setup separate sites and set each site to use the 
 appropriate
 cf version instead of keep switching one site between different home
 directories and cf version ?
 
 It's my understanding that the IIS can only do one site (I'm in XP).  
 To do more, I have to buy the IIS Server.  Please correct me and tell 
 me that I am wrong.   Please!
 As I said, I'm a novice with IIS.  However, I couldn't find a new 
 site button. 

YOu could also try this tool. It will switch default sites for you on XP
http://www.jetstat.com/2011-11/iis-admin-tool.html 

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