RE: CF_Activedit alternatives??
If you're willing to go with an IE-only solution, it's easy enough to write your own. Go to msdn.microsoft.com and do a search for "DHTMLEdit" (this control is built into IE) ActivEdit is built around the DHTMLEdit functionality, as is ezEdit Philip Arnold Director Certified ColdFusion Developer ASP Multimedia Limited T: +44 (0)20 8680 1133 "Websites for the real world" ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. ** ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF_Activedit alternatives??
Activeedit requires browsers to support ActiveX, which means Internet Explorer on Windows, exclusively. I've only been using the demo so far and am very happy with it. H. -Original Message- From: Francisco Montes; Spain on Line [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 1:58 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF_Activedit alternatives?? Hi all! I´ve been using the CF_Activeedit custom tag for some time now but i´ll like to know about other similar tags i could use as well. I´ve found out that it doesn´t work properly with one of our Mac machines for some reason (??). Does anybody know of any other tag that also allows text edition (even if it´s only basic edition functionality)? TIA ! Paco Montes Spain on Line ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF_Activedit alternatives??
Here is an excerpt from one of my posts last month. There's probably quite a few other useful discussions on this topic in the list archives already. I would like to add ezEdit (http://www.siteobjects.com) to this list of utilities. It is distributed in the form of a custom tag. This tag works like most of the rest. It is free and Open Source. It lacks (and will probably always lack) features like the spell checker found in a few others because of the licensing fees associated with the spell checking databases and such. Benjamin S. Rogers Web Developer, c4.net voice: (508) 240-0051 fax: (508) 240-0057 excerpt Most of the solutions out there (especially the ColdFusion ones) are all based on the MSHTML editor. Information developing applications using this component can be found here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/browser/overview/editing.asp Here's a list of the most popular ones that I've seen around. I know there are a couple people from some of these companies on this list who will probably want to interject on behalf of their company. However, we just researched this fairly extensively. This is a combination of our opinions from evaluating the products and information gathered from the sales people. Please take it for what it is worth: HTMLEdit This is not a ColdFusion solution but I would be remiss not to mention it since it is such a quick and easy solution that probably meets many peoples' needs. http://javaboutique.internet.com/HTMLEdit/ Pros: Simple and Open Source. Cross-platform and cross-browser. Cons: Very, very few features (i.e. only includes basic HTML editing). HTMLAREA http://www.iautomated.com/ Pros: Free (Lite) Version. Cross Platform. Cons: Interface needs some work (i.e. bulky and clumsy); missing some of the features. Pay version is not particularly cheap. Not cross-browser (IE only). ActiveEdit http://www.cfdev.com/ Pros: Cross-platform and Inexpensive. Integration with some other products from the same company like ActiveScan. Cons: Interface needs a little work (i.e. a little clumsy and can't be embedded into a page) and it's missing a couple features (e.g. dictionary), most of which are coming out in the next version. It is not cross-browser (IE only). eWebEdit http://www.ektron.com/ Pros: Nice interface with all the features. Cross-browser and Spectra-ready. Cons: Really (really) high price tag (Although according to their sales rep they haven't figured out their pricing yet so this may change). Not cross-platform (Windows only). Hope this helps. /excerpt -Original Message- From: Francisco Montes; Spain on Line [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 4:58 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF_Activedit alternatives?? Hi all! I´ve been using the CF_Activeedit custom tag for some time now but i´ll like to know about other similar tags i could use as well. I´ve found out that it doesn´t work properly with one of our Mac machines for some reason (??). Does anybody know of any other tag that also allows text edition (even if it´s only basic edition functionality)? TIA ! Paco Montes Spain on Line ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF_Activedit alternatives??
HTMLEdit This is not a ColdFusion solution but I would be remiss not to mention it since it is such a quick and easy solution that probably meets many peoples' needs. http://javaboutique.internet.com/HTMLEdit/ Pros: Simple and Open Source. Cross-platform and cross-browser. Cons: Very, very few features (i.e. only includes basic HTML editing). Does anyone still have a copy or a link to this? The above link doesn't work. I have a project where I could use this. Thanks, Duane Boudreau CFExperts ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF_Activedit alternatives??
I second this, for the most part. its really good, the only problem is it can sometimes take a while to load (and that's on the office LAN. Must take a while for all those users on dial up.) Chris Martin -Original Message- From: Rob Sherman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 1:23 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF_Activedit alternatives?? I couldn't be happier with the newest version of eWebEditPro. Visit www.ektron.com Sincerely, Rob Sherman Allaire Certified Developer Instructor CFDude, Inc. http://www.cfdude.com CF_Office (310) 543-1622 CF_Fax (310) 543-0512 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF_Activedit alternatives??
I couldn't be happier with the newest version of eWebEditPro. Visit www.ektron.com We tested eWebEditPro, but some of our clients don't like installing plugins from companies that they've never heard of - it's a paranoia thing Philip Arnold Director Certified ColdFusion Developer ASP Multimedia Limited T: +44 (0)20 8680 1133 "Websites for the real world" ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. ** ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF_Activedit alternatives??
That may be true but considering that there are few number of people that will actually be doing the editing and they only have to download the plug-in once, its not that bad. When you edit a second time it's blazing fast. The benefits far outweigh the time to download. It just requires instilling some confidence and security to the client on your part. Usually what I do is sit down at the client's computer and show them what happens while explaining this is only done once. After it's loaded I let the client sit down and let them start playing with it and their 'wonderment' and excitement quickly replace any fears of the initial download. -Sold- Give it a try with them and see if that helps. Some developers work in environments and with companies that are far too large and distributed to sit down and coddle all of the clients/employees. For me, the biggest issue with eWebEdit is the pricing model or lack there of. We inquired with them several times about purchasing many licenses but their fees were fairly exorbitant and, though they informed us they were undergoing a pricing change, we never received that information. In the mean time, several cheaper (free) alternatives have shown up. eWebEdit still has an advantage as far as the Spectra integration goes, but then the new Spectra has fixed the problems and functionality of it's own WYSIWYG HTML editor. What does eWebEdit offer that the ActiveEdit doesn't? Of course, we've actually decided to go with ezEdit because all we really cared about (besides the HTML Editor) was the custom tag and source code availability. Benjamin S. Rogers Web Developer, c4.net voice: (508) 240-0051 fax: (508) 240-0057 Sincerely, Rob Sherman Allaire Certified Developer Instructor CFDude, Inc. http://www.cfdude.com CF_Office (310) 543-1622 CF_Fax (310) 543-0512 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF_Activedit alternatives??
Hi Folks, EWebeditpro is definitely the most feature rich of the one's I have used so far, but its not without its down side. The pricing model is definitely the biggest detractor. These guys have done quite a bit of work on adding features to their editor and I have to say it is very nice -- it even works in Netscape. The best price/feature ratio probably comes from Iautomated's HTMLarea. They have a free version that has been very useful. It basically just lets you copy and paste from MS Word, do links and fonts. The pricing structure for their paid products is very liberal. They charge like $70 for unlimited (even public) use on a single server or $400 for a much broader license. Its not as mature as EWebeditpro, but if it meets your needs, it is probably the way to go if you're on a budget. HTH, Eron PS- What IS activeedit's pricing structure? -Original Message- From: Benjamin S. Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 3:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF_Activedit alternatives?? That may be true but considering that there are few number of people that will actually be doing the editing and they only have to download the plug-in once, its not that bad. When you edit a second time it's blazing fast. The benefits far outweigh the time to download. It just requires instilling some confidence and security to the client on your part. Usually what I do is sit down at the client's computer and show them what happens while explaining this is only done once. After it's loaded I let the client sit down and let them start playing with it and their 'wonderment' and excitement quickly replace any fears of the initial download. -Sold- Give it a try with them and see if that helps. Some developers work in environments and with companies that are far too large and distributed to sit down and coddle all of the clients/employees. For me, the biggest issue with eWebEdit is the pricing model or lack there of. We inquired with them several times about purchasing many licenses but their fees were fairly exorbitant and, though they informed us they were undergoing a pricing change, we never received that information. In the mean time, several cheaper (free) alternatives have shown up. eWebEdit still has an advantage as far as the Spectra integration goes, but then the new Spectra has fixed the problems and functionality of it's own WYSIWYG HTML editor. What does eWebEdit offer that the ActiveEdit doesn't? Of course, we've actually decided to go with ezEdit because all we really cared about (besides the HTML Editor) was the custom tag and source code availability. Benjamin S. Rogers Web Developer, c4.net voice: (508) 240-0051 fax: (508) 240-0057 Sincerely, Rob Sherman Allaire Certified Developer Instructor CFDude, Inc. http://www.cfdude.com CF_Office (310) 543-1622 CF_Fax (310) 543-0512 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF_Activedit alternatives??
SiteObjects has just released a FREE WYSIWYG editor which is pretty much as good as Active Edit: http://www.siteobjects.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=showezedit Darryl -Original Message- From: Benjamin S. Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 6:04 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF_Activedit alternatives?? That may be true but considering that there are few number of people that will actually be doing the editing and they only have to download the plug-in once, its not that bad. When you edit a second time it's blazing fast. The benefits far outweigh the time to download. It just requires instilling some confidence and security to the client on your part. Usually what I do is sit down at the client's computer and show them what happens while explaining this is only done once. After it's loaded I let the client sit down and let them start playing with it and their 'wonderment' and excitement quickly replace any fears of the initial download. -Sold- Give it a try with them and see if that helps. Some developers work in environments and with companies that are far too large and distributed to sit down and coddle all of the clients/employees. For me, the biggest issue with eWebEdit is the pricing model or lack there of. We inquired with them several times about purchasing many licenses but their fees were fairly exorbitant and, though they informed us they were undergoing a pricing change, we never received that information. In the mean time, several cheaper (free) alternatives have shown up. eWebEdit still has an advantage as far as the Spectra integration goes, but then the new Spectra has fixed the problems and functionality of it's own WYSIWYG HTML editor. What does eWebEdit offer that the ActiveEdit doesn't? Of course, we've actually decided to go with ezEdit because all we really cared about (besides the HTML Editor) was the custom tag and source code availability. Benjamin S. Rogers Web Developer, c4.net voice: (508) 240-0051 fax: (508) 240-0057 Sincerely, Rob Sherman Allaire Certified Developer Instructor CFDude, Inc. http://www.cfdude.com CF_Office (310) 543-1622 CF_Fax (310) 543-0512 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF_Activedit alternatives??
I've been converted to ezEdit. Free. Good. Displays a textarea if the browser doesn't support what it needs. Michel Vuijlsteke -Original Message- From: Francisco Montes; Spain on Line [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 10:58 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF_Activedit alternatives?? Hi all! I´ve been using the CF_Activeedit custom tag for some time now but i´ll like to know about other similar tags i could use as well. I´ve found out that it doesn´t work properly with one of our Mac machines for some reason (??). Does anybody know of any other tag that also allows text edition (even if it´s only basic edition functionality)? TIA ! Paco Montes Spain on Line ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CF_Activedit alternatives??
Hi Paco, Try ezEdit from www.siteobjects.com , and it's free as well. Hassan --- "Francisco Montes; Spain on Line" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all! I´ve been using the CF_Activeedit custom tag for some time now but i´ll like to know about other similar tags i could use as well. I´ve found out that it doesn´t work properly with one of our Mac machines for some reason (??). Does anybody know of any other tag that also allows text edition (even if it´s only basic edition functionality)? TIA ! Paco Montes Spain on Line ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
