Re: help
\taolcad_images\products\resize\qry_latest24items.largepic1 Still doesn't work...? On Jul 17, 2014, at 23:09, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: As I told you four days ago: Instead of a physical path like C:\magedirector\imagename.ext you need a url like http://domainname.com/imagedirectory/imagename.ext You use the physical path to determine if the file exists, but you need the url to display it. On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Matthew Smith chedders...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone? On Jul 15, 2014, at 1:59, Matthew Smith chedders...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know what path I should use? Stuck... On Jul 13, 2014, at 10:40, Matthew Smith chedders...@gmail.com wrote: what path should i use? On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: Yes, this code is broken. You have a logic error. The code inside the CFCATCH will only execute of the code in the CFTRY fails. The syntax on the CFCATCH tag is wrong as you have no type declared, and the code on the first line inside the CFCATCH is the same as what you just tried. So if it fails on the TRY it will fail inside the CFCATCH. This is all very accurate except for one portion. CFCATCH doesn't require a type. It's generally recommended that you specify a type, but in the absence of that attribute it'll simply catch any exception thrown by the CFTRY. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software 1-202-527-9569 http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358900 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: help
Instead of a physical path like C:\magedirector\imagename.ext you need a url like http://domainname.com/imagedirectory/imagename.ext You use the physical path to determine if the file exists, but you need the url to display it. \taolcad_images\products\resize\qry_latest24items.largepic1 Still doesn't work...? That's still not a URL, is it? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software 1-202-527-9569 http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358901 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: help
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: Still doesn't work...? That's still not a URL, is it? âIt's like pulling teeth â¦â -- mac jordan www.kestrel.org | www.reactivecooking.com | www.jordan-cats.org twitter: @ramtops ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358903 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: help
Defies logic, especially given certain claims. http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358850 On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 8:26 AM, mac jordan mac.jor...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: Still doesn't work...? That's still not a URL, is it? âIt's like pulling teeth â¦â -- mac jordan www.kestrel.org | www.reactivecooking.com | www.jordan-cats.org twitter: @ramtops ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358904 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: help
Matt, you need to make a stromger effort to understand what you are being told. we can't solve your problem. we can only help point you in the right direction. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 18, 2014, at 6:35 AM, Matthew Smith chedders...@gmail.com wrote: \taolcad_images\products\resize\qry_latest24items.largepic1 Still doesn't work...? On Jul 17, 2014, at 23:09, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: As I told you four days ago: Instead of a physical path like C:\magedirector\imagename.ext you need a url like http://domainname.com/imagedirectory/imagename.ext You use the physical path to determine if the file exists, but you need the url to display it. On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Matthew Smith chedders...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone? On Jul 15, 2014, at 1:59, Matthew Smith chedders...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know what path I should use? Stuck... On Jul 13, 2014, at 10:40, Matthew Smith chedders...@gmail.com wrote: what path should i use? On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: Yes, this code is broken. You have a logic error. The code inside the CFCATCH will only execute of the code in the CFTRY fails. The syntax on the CFCATCH tag is wrong as you have no type declared, and the code on the first line inside the CFCATCH is the same as what you just tried. So if it fails on the TRY it will fail inside the CFCATCH. This is all very accurate except for one portion. CFCATCH doesn't require a type. It's generally recommended that you specify a type, but in the absence of that attribute it'll simply catch any exception thrown by the CFTRY. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software 1-202-527-9569 http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358905 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: help
wow I never would have guessed. maybe just a bad communicator - trouble really describing his problem? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 18, 2014, at 8:30 AM, Matt Quackenbush quackfu...@gmail.com wrote: Defies logic, especially given certain claims. http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358850 On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 8:26 AM, mac jordan mac.jor...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: Still doesn't work...? That's still not a URL, is it? âIt's like pulling teeth â¦â -- mac jordan www.kestrel.org | www.reactivecooking.com | www.jordan-cats.org twitter: @ramtops ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358908 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: help
Anyone? On Jul 15, 2014, at 1:59, Matthew Smith chedders...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know what path I should use? Stuck... On Jul 13, 2014, at 10:40, Matthew Smith chedders...@gmail.com wrote: what path should i use? On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: Yes, this code is broken. You have a logic error. The code inside the CFCATCH will only execute of the code in the CFTRY fails. The syntax on the CFCATCH tag is wrong as you have no type declared, and the code on the first line inside the CFCATCH is the same as what you just tried. So if it fails on the TRY it will fail inside the CFCATCH. This is all very accurate except for one portion. CFCATCH doesn't require a type. It's generally recommended that you specify a type, but in the absence of that attribute it'll simply catch any exception thrown by the CFTRY. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software 1-202-527-9569 http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358897 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: help
As I told you four days ago: Instead of a physical path like C:\magedirector\imagename.ext you need a url like http://domainname.com/imagedirectory/imagename.ext You use the physical path to determine if the file exists, but you need the url to display it. On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Matthew Smith chedders...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone? On Jul 15, 2014, at 1:59, Matthew Smith chedders...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know what path I should use? Stuck... On Jul 13, 2014, at 10:40, Matthew Smith chedders...@gmail.com wrote: what path should i use? On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: Yes, this code is broken. You have a logic error. The code inside the CFCATCH will only execute of the code in the CFTRY fails. The syntax on the CFCATCH tag is wrong as you have no type declared, and the code on the first line inside the CFCATCH is the same as what you just tried. So if it fails on the TRY it will fail inside the CFCATCH. This is all very accurate except for one portion. CFCATCH doesn't require a type. It's generally recommended that you specify a type, but in the absence of that attribute it'll simply catch any exception thrown by the CFTRY. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software 1-202-527-9569 http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358898 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: help
Yeah...my bad. I have never used CFCATCH without a type, so I forgot it was optional. On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: This is all very accurate except for one portion. CFCATCH doesn't require a type. It's generally recommended that you specify a type, but in the absence of that attribute it'll simply catch any exception thrown by the CFTRY. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358865 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: help
Yes, this code is broken. You have a logic error. The code inside the CFCATCH will only execute of the code in the CFTRY fails. The syntax on the CFCATCH tag is wrong as you have no type declared, and the code on the first line inside the CFCATCH is the same as what you just tried. So if it fails on the TRY it will fail inside the CFCATCH. Also, to display images in a browser, you need that url path to the image, not the physical path. On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 8:18 AM, Matthew Smith chedders...@gmail.com wrote: I have uploaded the images to: /site_ttheartoflovingcatsanddogs_com/toalcad_images /taolcad_images/ /site_ttheartoflovingcatsanddogs_com/main/taolcad_images I have tried: /taolcad_images/ ../../taolcad_images This code is broke: ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358858 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: help
Yes, this code is broken. You have a logic error. The code inside the CFCATCH will only execute of the code in the CFTRY fails. The syntax on the CFCATCH tag is wrong as you have no type declared, and the code on the first line inside the CFCATCH is the same as what you just tried. So if it fails on the TRY it will fail inside the CFCATCH. This is all very accurate except for one portion. CFCATCH doesn't require a type. It's generally recommended that you specify a type, but in the absence of that attribute it'll simply catch any exception thrown by the CFTRY. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software 1-202-527-9569 http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358862 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: help
what path should i use? On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: Yes, this code is broken. You have a logic error. The code inside the CFCATCH will only execute of the code in the CFTRY fails. The syntax on the CFCATCH tag is wrong as you have no type declared, and the code on the first line inside the CFCATCH is the same as what you just tried. So if it fails on the TRY it will fail inside the CFCATCH. This is all very accurate except for one portion. CFCATCH doesn't require a type. It's generally recommended that you specify a type, but in the absence of that attribute it'll simply catch any exception thrown by the CFTRY. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software 1-202-527-9569 http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358863 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help needed with CF10 developer edition on XP w/IIS
WinXP doesn't enable multiple sites on IIS. Use iis_multiplex as a workaround On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Stephen Hait sh...@mindspring.com wrote: I've installed CF 10 Developer edition on XP that is running IIS 5.1. I can get the CF Administrator to come up but cannot figure out how to set up a virtual directory for testing a CF website. I have tried creating a virtual directory, test, in IIS. I placed a simple .html file and a simple .cfm file in this directory. I modified my hosts file so that my current IP address 192.168.1.111 is set as test. I can browse to http://test/index.html and my test .html page displays. But if I try browsing to http://test/index.cfm I get a Coldfusion error: File not found: /index.cfm. The virtual directory is located under the IIS root: C:\inetpub\wwwroot\. Do I need to something more to tell CF where this directory is located?. Is there a guide somewhere that goes over the steps involved for getting .cfm pages to be served properly in this setup? Thanks in advance for any suggestions, Stephen ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:353412 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help needed with CF10 developer edition on XP w/IIS
it seems like you are trying to treat a virtual directory as a separate website, which will not work. you can only have 1 website in IIS on windows XP. A virtual directory is as the name a suggests a directory that is virtual (not real) which points to a real directory. so if your vdir is called test, then to access it you need to go to http://localhost/test You need to have IIS 7 Express to get multiple sites, which you can install from the microsoft web platform installer. On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Sergey Croitor scroi...@gmail.com wrote: WinXP doesn't enable multiple sites on IIS. Use iis_multiplex as a workaround On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Stephen Hait sh...@mindspring.com wrote: I've installed CF 10 Developer edition on XP that is running IIS 5.1. I can get the CF Administrator to come up but cannot figure out how to set up a virtual directory for testing a CF website. I have tried creating a virtual directory, test, in IIS. I placed a simple .html file and a simple .cfm file in this directory. I modified my hosts file so that my current IP address 192.168.1.111 is set as test. I can browse to http://test/index.html and my test .html page displays. But if I try browsing to http://test/index.cfm I get a Coldfusion error: File not found: /index.cfm. The virtual directory is located under the IIS root: C:\inetpub\wwwroot\. Do I need to something more to tell CF where this directory is located?. Is there a guide somewhere that goes over the steps involved for getting .cfm pages to be served properly in this setup? Thanks in advance for any suggestions, Stephen ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:353414 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help needed with CF10 developer edition on XP w/IIS
Virtual Directory and a 2nd website are two different things, so the question I would now ask is that if you go to the IIS configuration settings for the website do you see index.cfm as a default page? If not my guess is that you will need to run the web configuration tool to get it to apply the necessary settings for ColdFusion to run. Now XP is very old hat, and I would suggest upgrading your OS. If that is not an option then maybe look into something like VirtualBox which will allow you to run a VPS in your system. Now the beauty here is that you can install any *nix flavour that ColdFusion supports and it is at no cost to you. but first look at your IIS settings, my guess is that the Web Configuration tool did not setup the website correctly. Even if it did, any time you delete and remove websites from IIS you will need to re-run the Web Configuration tool. Now on another note, creating a Virtual Directory is also not a real solution and only a temp solution. What I mean by that is that each time you create a Virtual Directory, then the Website has access to all your Virtual Directories. Which in itself is not a bad thing, just not a habit that I would really suggest going down. -- Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Stephen Hait sh...@mindspring.com wrote: I've installed CF 10 Developer edition on XP that is running IIS 5.1. I can get the CF Administrator to come up but cannot figure out how to set up a virtual directory for testing a CF website. I have tried creating a virtual directory, test, in IIS. I placed a simple .html file and a simple .cfm file in this directory. I modified my hosts file so that my current IP address 192.168.1.111 is set as test. I can browse to http://test/index.html and my test .html page displays. But if I try browsing to http://test/index.cfm I get a Coldfusion error: File not found: /index.cfm. The virtual directory is located under the IIS root: C:\inetpub\wwwroot\. Do I need to something more to tell CF where this directory is located?. Is there a guide somewhere that goes over the steps involved for getting .cfm pages to be served properly in this setup? Thanks in advance for any suggestions, Stephen ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:353415 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help needed with CF10 developer edition on XP w/IIS
Thanks, Russ Sergey, for your info and suggestions. I was hoping to set up CF10, IIS and SQL Server all on a single pc running XP. Looks like that wasn't such a good idea. For now I just switched to using the built-in webserver with CF10 which is just fine for my purpose. On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: it seems like you are trying to treat a virtual directory as a separate website, which will not work. you can only have 1 website in IIS on windows XP. On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Sergey Croitor scroi...@gmail.com wrote: WinXP doesn't enable multiple sites on IIS. Use iis_multiplex as a workaround ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:353416 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help needed with CF10 developer edition on XP w/IIS
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 7:47 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote: Now XP is very old hat, and I would suggest upgrading your OS. If that is not an option then maybe look into something like VirtualBox which will allow you to run a VPS in your system. Now the beauty here is that you can install any *nix flavour that ColdFusion supports and it is at no cost to you. Thanks, Andy - Virtual Box sounds interesting. I was just looking into KVM and SPICE on linux recently so I'll check into virtualization further now. Stephen ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:353417 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help needed with CF10 developer edition on XP w/IIS
Stephen, Just to clarify, IIS on XP does allow you to define multiple sites, it just hides the create menu from within the gui and does not allow you to run more than one at a time. However, you can create multiple sites via the command line. I used to run a utility called IIsAdmin.NET ( http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/10561/IIsAdmin-NET-Create-Multiple-Web-Sites-Under-Windo) which does this for you and adds a taskbar icon that allows you to very easily create and switch between the different site. I have never used iis_multiplex, as Sergey had suggested, but I would assume that it does something similar. Dean On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Stephen Hait sh...@mindspring.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 7:47 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Now XP is very old hat, and I would suggest upgrading your OS. If that is not an option then maybe look into something like VirtualBox which will allow you to run a VPS in your system. Now the beauty here is that you can install any *nix flavour that ColdFusion supports and it is at no cost to you. Thanks, Andy - Virtual Box sounds interesting. I was just looking into KVM and SPICE on linux recently so I'll check into virtualization further now. Stephen ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:353418 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help needed with CF10 developer edition on XP w/IIS
Thanks Dean, I didn't know about this and it looks promising. Stephen On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Dean Lawrence dean...@gmail.com wrote: However, you can create multiple sites via the command line. I used to run a utility called IIsAdmin.NET ( http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/10561/IIsAdmin-NET-Create-Multiple-Web-Sites-Under-Windo ) which does this for you and adds a taskbar icon that allows you to very easily create and switch between the different site. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:353420 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help needed with CF10 developer edition on XP w/IIS
Stop trying to struggle with iis 5 and install iis7 express as per last post, it will save all these headaches. You also need to get web platform installer to make life easier. Regards Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine On Dec 11, 2012 4:25 PM, Stephen Hait sh...@mindspring.com wrote: Thanks Dean, I didn't know about this and it looks promising. Stephen On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Dean Lawrence dean...@gmail.com wrote: However, you can create multiple sites via the command line. I used to run a utility called IIsAdmin.NET ( http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/10561/IIsAdmin-NET-Create-Multiple-Web-Sites-Under-Windo ) which does this for you and adds a taskbar icon that allows you to very easily create and switch between the different site. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:353421 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help needed with CF10 developer edition on XP w/IIS
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: Stop trying to struggle with iis 5 and install iis7 express as per last post, it will save all these headaches. You also need to get web platform installer to make life easier. Thanks Russ. I'll look into iis7 express. I wasn't aware of that before. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:353422 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help needed with CF10 developer edition on XP w/IIS
Have you considered running apache? That's how I did it for years until I mover to windows 7. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 11, 2012, at 1:20 PM, Stephen Hait sh...@mindspring.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: Stop trying to struggle with iis 5 and install iis7 express as per last post, it will save all these headaches. You also need to get web platform installer to make life easier. Thanks Russ. I'll look into iis7 express. I wasn't aware of that before. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:353423 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help needed with CF10 developer edition on XP w/IIS
Windows 7 is not required to run iis 7 express, you can run it on xp. Regards Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine On Dec 11, 2012 7:59 PM, Steve Durette st...@durette.org wrote: Have you considered running apache? That's how I did it for years until I mover to windows 7. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 11, 2012, at 1:20 PM, Stephen Hait sh...@mindspring.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: Stop trying to struggle with iis 5 and install iis7 express as per last post, it will save all these headaches. You also need to get web platform installer to make life easier. Thanks Russ. I'll look into iis7 express. I wasn't aware of that before. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:353424 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help needed with CF10 developer edition on XP w/IIS
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: Windows 7 is not required to run iis 7 express, you can run it on xp. On Dec 11, 2012 7:59 PM, Steve Durette st...@durette.org wrote: Have you considered running apache? That's how I did it for years until I mover to windows 7. Thanks Russ and Steve, et. al. I appreciate all the good information I've gotten from the list. Apache on XP would be a good solution as would iis7 express. Is anyone running CF10 with iis7 express on XP or know how easy or difficult it would be to get that combination set up? Would the Web Server Configuration Tool that comes with CF10 work easily with that web server? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:353425 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Help needed with CF10 developer edition on XP w/IIS
You can also use Apache, which will allow for multiple sites. Vista and 7 enabled multiple sites in IIS. I remember reading a blog post from the guy that made that descion. He said he has never seen so much hate mail as he had seen just around that issue alone and said he would never make that mistake again. Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com -Original Message- From: Sergey Croitor [mailto:scroi...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 6:22 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Help needed with CF10 developer edition on XP w/IIS WinXP doesn't enable multiple sites on IIS. Use iis_multiplex as a workaround On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Stephen Hait sh...@mindspring.com wrote: I've installed CF 10 Developer edition on XP that is running IIS 5.1. I can get the CF Administrator to come up but cannot figure out how to set up a virtual directory for testing a CF website. I have tried creating a virtual directory, test, in IIS. I placed a simple .html file and a simple .cfm file in this directory. I modified my hosts file so that my current IP address 192.168.1.111 is set as test. I can browse to http://test/index.html and my test .html page displays. But if I try browsing to http://test/index.cfm I get a Coldfusion error: File not found: /index.cfm. The virtual directory is located under the IIS root: C:\inetpub\wwwroot\. Do I need to something more to tell CF where this directory is located?. Is there a guide somewhere that goes over the steps involved for getting .cfm pages to be served properly in this setup? Thanks in advance for any suggestions, Stephen ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:353426 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help needed with CF10 developer edition on XP w/IIS
IIS 7 Express is what is shipped with Windows 7. So should be no issues at all. -- Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 8:56 AM, Stephen Hait sh...@mindspring.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: Windows 7 is not required to run iis 7 express, you can run it on xp. On Dec 11, 2012 7:59 PM, Steve Durette st...@durette.org wrote: Have you considered running apache? That's how I did it for years until I mover to windows 7. Thanks Russ and Steve, et. al. I appreciate all the good information I've gotten from the list. Apache on XP would be a good solution as would iis7 express. Is anyone running CF10 with iis7 express on XP or know how easy or difficult it would be to get that combination set up? Would the Web Server Configuration Tool that comes with CF10 work easily with that web server? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:353427 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help needed with CF10 developer edition on XP w/IIS
there should be no problem, cf10 supports both iis7 and apache. On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:56 PM, Stephen Hait sh...@mindspring.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: Windows 7 is not required to run iis 7 express, you can run it on xp. On Dec 11, 2012 7:59 PM, Steve Durette st...@durette.org wrote: Have you considered running apache? That's how I did it for years until I mover to windows 7. Thanks Russ and Steve, et. al. I appreciate all the good information I've gotten from the list. Apache on XP would be a good solution as would iis7 express. Is anyone running CF10 with iis7 express on XP or know how easy or difficult it would be to get that combination set up? Would the Web Server Configuration Tool that comes with CF10 work easily with that web server? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:353428 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help needed with CF10 developer edition on XP w/IIS
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: there should be no problem, cf10 supports both iis7 and apache. Apache on XP would be a good solution as would iis7 express. Is anyone running CF10 with iis7 express on XP or know how easy or difficult it would be to get that combination set up? Would the Web Server Configuration Tool that comes with CF10 work easily with that web server? Thanks Russ - sounds good. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:353429 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help with creating a mobile website with CF
Terry Check out Brad Frost's 'This is Responsive' github pages - it is a great place to start: http://bradfrost.github.com/this-is-responsive/ Azadi On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 1:35 PM, terry terry.tro...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Rick, This is exactly what I was looking for. I have a lot of reading ahead of me and then a lot of work to put it all in play. Terry Troxel -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 11:39 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Help with creating a mobile website with CF Hi, Terry... My perspective, after creating a couple of real estate mobile sites which make heavy use of ColdFusion, is that ColdFusion has little to nothing to do with whether or not a site is mobile. ColdFusion simply puts content on the page in raw form. The work of making a site mobile is done mainly in the CSS realm. (CSS3 to be more precise...) I use HTML5, ColdFusion, jQuery, and CSS3 to design and develop my mobile sites. But before you start down the path of making mobile sites (smartphone) that are designed separately from their tablet, and desktop brothers and sisters, let me encourage you to delve into Responsive and Adaptive Site Design. I think this is the future. Not only does it make developing for multiple sized devices simpler, it allows you to keep all the sites or should I say adaptations of the site under one domain, instead of site.com for desktop, site.mobi, for another one of the versions, and m.site.com for another. It becomes very difficult for site owners to promote all those domains and subdomains to customers. Responsive and Adaptive Web Design Development, again, keeps everything under one domain and that also helps a lot with SEO/SEM. So, do some searching for Responsive Web Design and Adaptive Web Design, learn the distinctions (they're not that different), understand them and you'll be off to a good start. Just some thoughts to help you get start on a journey of change that I started about a year ago and am still working on getting figured out. Hope this helps! Rick -Original Message- From: Terry Troxel [mailto:terry.tro...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 1:57 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Help with creating a mobile website with CF I could sure use some help getting a grasp of where to start learning how to create mobile websites for Iphones and Android using coldfusion. Terry Troxel ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:352627 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Help with creating a mobile website with CF
Terry, I know, for me, that the first thing I look for, instead of all the facts is a simple tutorial to provide me a basic understanding of the principle involved in any new work that seeks to change my thought processes. I would suggest looking in to the first tutorial that I used to wrap my head around Responsive Web Design... I found it at http://.udemy.com. (Short for U-Academy or Your-Academy. Perhaps you can get into outline of the course, which comes complete with project files for you to view and work on, as well as an instructor explaining what you see in the code. The tutorial is the construction of a basic responsive web site, from start to finish. It's found at http://www.udemy.com/creating-reponsive-web-design. (Hopefully, you can access this page without logging in. If not, just search the site for it.) I think the cost was $19 and you have access to it (at least, I did at the time) for a year. It was a really well-spent $19 for a simple, but complete intro to responsive web design. But after this, if you take the course, don't stop at understanding responsive web design. Definitely look in Adaptive Web design, because it is slightly different in its approach and looks to be more future-proof, with so many devices of varying pixel density and screen size constantly flooding the market. I'm working on Adaptive Web Design currently, and from the looks of it, will adopt that approach, as opposed to Responsive Web Design. Rick -Original Message- From: terry [mailto:terry.tro...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 12:35 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Help with creating a mobile website with CF Thank you Rick, This is exactly what I was looking for. I have a lot of reading ahead of me and then a lot of work to put it all in play. Terry Troxel -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 11:39 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Help with creating a mobile website with CF Hi, Terry... My perspective, after creating a couple of real estate mobile sites which make heavy use of ColdFusion, is that ColdFusion has little to nothing to do with whether or not a site is mobile. ColdFusion simply puts content on the page in raw form. The work of making a site mobile is done mainly in the CSS realm. (CSS3 to be more precise...) I use HTML5, ColdFusion, jQuery, and CSS3 to design and develop my mobile sites. But before you start down the path of making mobile sites (smartphone) that are designed separately from their tablet, and desktop brothers and sisters, let me encourage you to delve into Responsive and Adaptive Site Design. I think this is the future. Not only does it make developing for multiple sized devices simpler, it allows you to keep all the sites or should I say adaptations of the site under one domain, instead of site.com for desktop, site.mobi, for another one of the versions, and m.site.com for another. It becomes very difficult for site owners to promote all those domains and subdomains to customers. Responsive and Adaptive Web Design Development, again, keeps everything under one domain and that also helps a lot with SEO/SEM. So, do some searching for Responsive Web Design and Adaptive Web Design, learn the distinctions (they're not that different), understand them and you'll be off to a good start. Just some thoughts to help you get start on a journey of change that I started about a year ago and am still working on getting figured out. Hope this helps! Rick -Original Message- From: Terry Troxel [mailto:terry.tro...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 1:57 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Help with creating a mobile website with CF I could sure use some help getting a grasp of where to start learning how to create mobile websites for Iphones and Android using coldfusion. Terry Troxel ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:352630 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help with creating a mobile website with CF
using CF is no different to any other language, you simply detect the mobile browser and deliver content optmised for that, this is usually done by having a separate theme fro the mobile content. Most of the common off the shelf CMS systems have this fucntionality built in, such as joomla, wordpress etc. For CF, take a look at MuraCMS http://docs.getmura.com/user-guide/mobile/ On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Terry Troxel terry.tro...@gmail.comwrote: I could sure use some help getting a grasp of where to start learning how to create mobile websites for Iphones and Android using coldfusion. Terry Troxel ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:352624 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Help with creating a mobile website with CF
Hi, Terry... My perspective, after creating a couple of real estate mobile sites which make heavy use of ColdFusion, is that ColdFusion has little to nothing to do with whether or not a site is mobile. ColdFusion simply puts content on the page in raw form. The work of making a site mobile is done mainly in the CSS realm. (CSS3 to be more precise...) I use HTML5, ColdFusion, jQuery, and CSS3 to design and develop my mobile sites. But before you start down the path of making mobile sites (smartphone) that are designed separately from their tablet, and desktop brothers and sisters, let me encourage you to delve into Responsive and Adaptive Site Design. I think this is the future. Not only does it make developing for multiple sized devices simpler, it allows you to keep all the sites or should I say adaptations of the site under one domain, instead of site.com for desktop, site.mobi, for another one of the versions, and m.site.com for another. It becomes very difficult for site owners to promote all those domains and subdomains to customers. Responsive and Adaptive Web Design Development, again, keeps everything under one domain and that also helps a lot with SEO/SEM. So, do some searching for Responsive Web Design and Adaptive Web Design, learn the distinctions (they're not that different), understand them and you'll be off to a good start. Just some thoughts to help you get start on a journey of change that I started about a year ago and am still working on getting figured out. Hope this helps! Rick -Original Message- From: Terry Troxel [mailto:terry.tro...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 1:57 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Help with creating a mobile website with CF I could sure use some help getting a grasp of where to start learning how to create mobile websites for Iphones and Android using coldfusion. Terry Troxel ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:352625 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Help with creating a mobile website with CF
Thank you Rick, This is exactly what I was looking for. I have a lot of reading ahead of me and then a lot of work to put it all in play. Terry Troxel -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 11:39 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Help with creating a mobile website with CF Hi, Terry... My perspective, after creating a couple of real estate mobile sites which make heavy use of ColdFusion, is that ColdFusion has little to nothing to do with whether or not a site is mobile. ColdFusion simply puts content on the page in raw form. The work of making a site mobile is done mainly in the CSS realm. (CSS3 to be more precise...) I use HTML5, ColdFusion, jQuery, and CSS3 to design and develop my mobile sites. But before you start down the path of making mobile sites (smartphone) that are designed separately from their tablet, and desktop brothers and sisters, let me encourage you to delve into Responsive and Adaptive Site Design. I think this is the future. Not only does it make developing for multiple sized devices simpler, it allows you to keep all the sites or should I say adaptations of the site under one domain, instead of site.com for desktop, site.mobi, for another one of the versions, and m.site.com for another. It becomes very difficult for site owners to promote all those domains and subdomains to customers. Responsive and Adaptive Web Design Development, again, keeps everything under one domain and that also helps a lot with SEO/SEM. So, do some searching for Responsive Web Design and Adaptive Web Design, learn the distinctions (they're not that different), understand them and you'll be off to a good start. Just some thoughts to help you get start on a journey of change that I started about a year ago and am still working on getting figured out. Hope this helps! Rick -Original Message- From: Terry Troxel [mailto:terry.tro...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 1:57 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Help with creating a mobile website with CF I could sure use some help getting a grasp of where to start learning how to create mobile websites for Iphones and Android using coldfusion. Terry Troxel ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:352626 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help with CF file upload display
Your questions here a bit fuzzy. You want an admin page to see the email form results... what email form results? It sounds more like you want the ability to see what files were uploaded by the person. So you would need to ensure your file upload process stores the files in such a way that you can later grab them in a bunch. In theory, that's simple. Just create a unique group id for your form's uploads. Then record each file with the group ID so you can fetch them all. On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Bill Alex balexan...@vtforge.com wrote: I'm using CF 9 and have multi-file uploading working. What I need help with is a help desk type page that will display the filenames with links to the files that are uploaded with the form that a user submits. When I view an admin page, I need to see the email form results with a list of the files uploaded and links to where they are. Any ideas on how I can get an admin page to display only the files associated with each form submission? Thanks. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350312 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help with REFind and Insert()
When I put in the found.pos[1]-1 I get You have attempted to dereference a scalar variable of type class java.lang.Integer as a structure with members Whatever that is supposed to mean? Looks like my last reply was truncated. (Out of curiosity, I am resending a cfscript version to see if the lack of tags makes a difference.) cfscript startAt = 1; for (i = 1; i = ArrayLen(getMatches); i++) { found = REFind(url.terms, DocContents, startAt, true); // insert *before* the matching string DocContents = Insert( i, DocContents, found.pos[1]-1); // shift starting position forward to ensure we find a *new* occurrence startAt = found.pos[1] + found. len ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350107 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help with REFind and Insert()
Did you forget to modify reFind so it returns subexpressions (ie a structure not a number)? ie found = REFind(url.terms, DocContents, startAt, TRUE ); -Le ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350109 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help with REFind and Insert()
ie found = REFind(url.terms, DocContents, startAt, TRUE ); -Le lol.. Even my name is being truncated ; ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350111 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help with REFind and Insert()
That did get rid of the error but now it isn't inserting anything. It appears to be ignoring the statement altogether. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350113 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help with REFind and Insert()
It sounds like something else is missing. Can you post your current code? -Leigh ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350118 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help with REFind and Insert()
The docs for REFind() say that the third argument should be a positive integer, default value is 1. REFind() returns the position in the string where the matched string begins. You'll need to add the length of the matched string (in your case, Len(url.terms) ) to this value to get the end of the matched string. Try this: cfset DocContents = Insert(#i#, DocContents, REFind(#url.terms#, DocContents, 1)+Len(url.terms))/ HTH, -Carl ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350092 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help with REFind and Insert()
Thanks Carl, Now it just ignores it altogether and doesn't put any number in at all. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350093 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help with REFind and Insert()
inserts the number in the wrong spot. Insert adds the string *after* the given position, not before. So you need to deduct 1 from the result of reFind() ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350094 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help with REFind and Insert()
REFind( url.terms, DocContents, ...) Also the code probably will not behave as expected if you are searching for partial words. Since you are searching starting from the beginning of the string each time, rather than the last occurrence. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350095 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help with REFind and Insert()
So, any suggestions how to go about that? I just want to highlight words in a searched document and allow the user to go to next and previous match in long documents. I thought adding a a href=#uniqueNumber# would be a good way using an Insert function. Now, I'm clueless on how to go about it. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350096 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help with REFind and Insert()
A lot depends on the search pattern. But as you loop keep track of where the previous occurrence was found. Then start searching *after* that position. Otherwise, refind will just return the first occurrence over and over again. You can use the fourth parameter of reFind to get the position and length of the string found ie reFind(pattern, string, startPosition, returnSubExpression). Then use those values to shift the starting search position forward each time you loop. http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusion/9.0/CFMLRef/WSc3ff6d0ea77859461172e0811cbec22c24-7e9a.html Not highly tested, but something along these lines cfset startAt = 1 / cfloop index=i from=1 to=#ArrayLen(getMatches)# cfset found = REFind(url.terms, DocContents, startAt, true) / !--- insert *before* the matching string --- cfset DocContents = Insert( i, DocContents, found.pos[1]-1) / !--- shift starting position forward to ensure we find a *new* occurrence --- cfset startAt = found.pos[1] + found.len[1] + len(i) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350097 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help with REFind and Insert()
Looks like my last reply was truncated. (Out of curiosity, I am resending a cfscript version to see if the lack of tags makes a difference.) cfscript startAt = 1; for (i = 1; i = ArrayLen(getMatches); i++) { found = REFind(url.terms, DocContents, startAt, true); // insert *before* the matching string DocContents = Insert( i, DocContents, found.pos[1]-1); // shift starting position forward to ensure we find a *new* occurrence startAt = found.pos[1] + found.len ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350098 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help Desk System
Ray camden has something called lighthouse, I think...check riaforge, http://www.riaforge.com On Sep 21, 2011 2:19 PM, Trevor Orr tre...@summitprojects.com wrote: Just wondering if anyone knows of a ColdFusion help desk system, either free or paid is fine. I just need something simple that I can start with and customize to the client's needs. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347565 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help Desk System
It's more meant as an internal bug tracking system. Typically a help desk is a more public facing system. But feel free to use Lighthouse. ;) On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Scott Stewart webmas...@sstwebworks.com wrote: Ray camden has something called lighthouse, I think...check riaforge, http://www.riaforge.com On Sep 21, 2011 2:19 PM, Trevor Orr tre...@summitprojects.com wrote: Just wondering if anyone knows of a ColdFusion help desk system, either free or paid is fine. I just need something simple that I can start with and customize to the client's needs. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347570 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help Desk System
There is also http://projecttracker.riaforge.org/ - it's a Basecamp Clone. Might be another starting point. On 9/21/11 11:19 AM, Trevor Orr wrote: Just wondering if anyone knows of a ColdFusion help desk system, either free or paid is fine. I just need something simple that I can start with and customize to the client's needs. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347571 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help Desk System
And a darn good clone at that, with SVN integration as well. -- Matthew Williams Geodesic GraFX www.geodesicgrafx.com/blog twitter.com/ophbalance ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347572 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help Desk System
+1 for Project Tracker On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Matthew Williams mai...@geodesicgrafx.com wrote: And a darn good clone at that, with SVN integration as well. -- Matthew Williams Geodesic GraFX www.geodesicgrafx.com/blog twitter.com/ophbalance ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347573 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help Desk System
Not cf, but does everything you will need and more. A touch pricy. Trackit by numera software is awesome. Thanks, Brian On Sep 21, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Trevor Orr tre...@summitprojects.com wrote: Just wondering if anyone knows of a ColdFusion help desk system, either free or paid is fine. I just need something simple that I can start with and customize to the client's needs. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347575 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help Desk System
If you are looking for an actual support helpdesk as per your post rather than a project/bug tracking system that other shave suggested the only CF helpdesk I was aware of was cfticket, which seems to have vanished. www.kayako.com is the best helpdesk solution out there, but there are various other free or open source solutions, probably not much in cf though. -- Russ Michaels www.bluethunderinternet.com : Business hosting services solutions www.cfmldeveloper.com : ColdFusion developer community www.michaels.me.uk : my blog www.cfsearch.com : ColdFusion search engine sky ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347578 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help Desk System
This is the only one I kn ow of. It's quite old. I used to work with the author: Yet Another helpdesk: http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm?event=extensionDetailloc=en_usextid=1003843 Regards, Paul http://blog.kukiel.net On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Trevor Orr tre...@summitprojects.comwrote: Just wondering if anyone knows of a ColdFusion help desk system, either free or paid is fine. I just need something simple that I can start with and customize to the client's needs. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347580 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help with .NET DLL - Again...
Just out of curiosity, 1) What version of CF and 2) 32 bit or 64 bit OS 3) 32 bit or 64 bit dll If it's CF 9.01 you need to update the .net connector as well, and some manual configuration to get it to work.. Secondly there are issues with 32 bit dll's running in a 64 bit environment. On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Stefan Richter ste...@flashcomguru.com wrote: Hi guys, I could use some advice. I'm trying to use some methods from a .NET assembly. I'm instantiating it like this: cfset DLL = #Expandpath('./')#\Aspose.Words.dll cfobject type=.NET name=doc class=Aspose.Words.Document assembly=#DLL# If I dump the doc variable I see all the assembly methods. So far so good. I recall that I need to call init in CF to invoke the constructor, but when I do that (and pass a path to the document) I get the error: Unable to find a constructor for class Aspose.Words.Document that accepts parameters of type ( coldfusion.runtime.LocalScope ). According to the docs http://www.aspose.com/documentation/.net-components/aspose.words-for-.net/aspose.words.documentconstructor2.html I believe that I need to pass a string. In C# the example code looks like this: Document doc = new Document(MyDir + Document.doc); I was trying cfset file = #Expandpath('./')#\test1.doc cfset doc.init(#file#) but receive the above error. I admit I am a bit out of my depth here, but previously I have used similar libraries successfully after some initial struggles and help from this list. Any tips appreciated. Regards, Stefan ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345968 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help with .NET DLL - Again...
cfset file = #Expandpath('./')#\test1.doc cfset doc.init(#file#) Does #file# actually resolve to a string or a structure? Historically #file# was a reserved word like CFFILE. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345969 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help with .NET DLL - Again...
Thanks, the server is 9.01 and I already have a very similar other DLL from the same company working on the same machine. I believe I updated the .NET connector previously after having some issues first time round. The OS is 64bit Win 2008. I'm not sure about the DLL itself, it was not marked as 32 or 64 bit. Any way to tell? Regards Stefan On 30 Jun 2011, at 18:09, Scott Stewart wrote: Just out of curiosity, 1) What version of CF and 2) 32 bit or 64 bit OS 3) 32 bit or 64 bit dll If it's CF 9.01 you need to update the .net connector as well, and some manual configuration to get it to work.. Secondly there are issues with 32 bit dll's running in a 64 bit environment. On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Stefan Richter ste...@flashcomguru.com wrote: Hi guys, I could use some advice. I'm trying to use some methods from a .NET assembly. I'm instantiating it like this: cfset DLL = #Expandpath('./')#\Aspose.Words.dll cfobject type=.NET name=doc class=Aspose.Words.Document assembly=#DLL# If I dump the doc variable I see all the assembly methods. So far so good. I recall that I need to call init in CF to invoke the constructor, but when I do that (and pass a path to the document) I get the error: Unable to find a constructor for class Aspose.Words.Document that accepts parameters of type ( coldfusion.runtime.LocalScope ). According to the docs http://www.aspose.com/documentation/.net-components/aspose.words-for-.net/aspose.words.documentconstructor2.html I believe that I need to pass a string. In C# the example code looks like this: Document doc = new Document(MyDir + Document.doc); I was trying cfset file = #Expandpath('./')#\test1.doc cfset doc.init(#file#) but receive the above error. I admit I am a bit out of my depth here, but previously I have used similar libraries successfully after some initial struggles and help from this list. Any tips appreciated. Regards, Stefan ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346001 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help with .NET DLL - Again...
Good point, I'll try with a different naming convention. Regards Stefan On 30 Jun 2011, at 18:10, Leigh wrote: cfset file = #Expandpath('./')#\test1.doc cfset doc.init(#file#) Does #file# actually resolve to a string or a structure? Historically #file# was a reserved word like CFFILE. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346002 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help with .NET DLL - Again...
BINGO! I think that was indeed the issue. I renamed the file variable and bam, no more error. Thanks very much. Man, I love this list. Stefan On 30 Jun 2011, at 21:41, Stefan Richter wrote: Good point, I'll try with a different naming convention. Regards Stefan On 30 Jun 2011, at 18:10, Leigh wrote: cfset file = #Expandpath('./')#\test1.doc cfset doc.init(#file#) Does #file# actually resolve to a string or a structure? Historically #file# was a reserved word like CFFILE. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346003 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!
So how did your first day go? Any load issues with the setup the good folks on this recommended? Brian Polackoff On May 8, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Kym Kovan dev-li...@mbcomms.net.au wrote: On 8/05/2011 10:58 PM, Robert Rhodes wrote: I installed Win2K8 on one of the servers last night, and discovered there is actually 6GB of memory in them. I had forgotten that I had to install the RAM sticks in threes on these servers. Just sitting there idling, it's got 340mb cached, 5451mb available, and 5133mb free. 6GB, that's a nice number. Set the JVM max to 3GB, max perm to 512 and let it take traffic. If all is good the OS will bump up to about 1GB and the cache the same leaving a smidge of fully free mem. If you have a server monitor of some form you can then balance as needed. -- Yours, Kym Kovan mbcomms.net.au ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344383 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!
I talked them into a few more days. Currently we are aiming for Friday. Phew! On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Brian Polackoff bpolack...@gmx.com wrote: So how did your first day go? Any load issues with the setup the good folks on this recommended? Brian Polackoff On May 8, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Kym Kovan dev-li...@mbcomms.net.au wrote: On 8/05/2011 10:58 PM, Robert Rhodes wrote: I installed Win2K8 on one of the servers last night, and discovered there is actually 6GB of memory in them. I had forgotten that I had to install the RAM sticks in threes on these servers. Just sitting there idling, it's got 340mb cached, 5451mb available, and 5133mb free. 6GB, that's a nice number. Set the JVM max to 3GB, max perm to 512 and let it take traffic. If all is good the OS will bump up to about 1GB and the cache the same leaving a smidge of fully free mem. If you have a server monitor of some form you can then balance as needed. -- Yours, Kym Kovan mbcomms.net.au ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344391 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!
Your proposed setup seems fine, sure it could be better, but it should suffice to get you up and running and many peeps run on such a setup permanently. On 8 May 2011 03:11, Kym Kovan dev-li...@mbcomms.net.au wrote: On 8/05/2011 9:29 AM, Robert Rhodes wrote: It looks like I will be x64 on Win2K8R2 for two of these boxes which will have only 4gb on memory, at least for now. With that in mind... can I up my jvm settings a bit? In a prod environment the OS will run about 1GB mem usage and 2K8 has this extra mem allocation caching trick which is really useful on hard working machines but you cannot allow much for that with only 4GB RAM. I'd say set the JVM for 2.5GB and 512 Perm and see how it flows (Look at mem usage in the Resource Monitor which you find in the Task Manager, if there is just a tad of Really Free Mem then you are fine.) -- Yours, Kym Kovan mbcomms.net.au ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344345 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!
I installed Win2K8 on one of the servers last night, and discovered there is actually 6GB of memory in them. I had forgotten that I had to install the RAM sticks in threes on these servers. Just sitting there idling, it's got 340mb cached, 5451mb available, and 5133mb free. On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Kym Kovan dev-li...@mbcomms.net.au wrote: On 8/05/2011 9:29 AM, Robert Rhodes wrote: It looks like I will be x64 on Win2K8R2 for two of these boxes which will have only 4gb on memory, at least for now. With that in mind... can I up my jvm settings a bit? In a prod environment the OS will run about 1GB mem usage and 2K8 has this extra mem allocation caching trick which is really useful on hard working machines but you cannot allow much for that with only 4GB RAM. I'd say set the JVM for 2.5GB and 512 Perm and see how it flows (Look at mem usage in the Resource Monitor which you find in the Task Manager, if there is just a tad of Really Free Mem then you are fine.) -- Yours, Kym Kovan mbcomms.net.au ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344347 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!
On 8/05/2011 10:58 PM, Robert Rhodes wrote: I installed Win2K8 on one of the servers last night, and discovered there is actually 6GB of memory in them. I had forgotten that I had to install the RAM sticks in threes on these servers. Just sitting there idling, it's got 340mb cached, 5451mb available, and 5133mb free. 6GB, that's a nice number. Set the JVM max to 3GB, max perm to 512 and let it take traffic. If all is good the OS will bump up to about 1GB and the cache the same leaving a smidge of fully free mem. If you have a server monitor of some form you can then balance as needed. -- Yours, Kym Kovan mbcomms.net.au ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344348 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!
On 7/05/2011 15:35, Maureen wrote: Perhaps you are right about 2K8 being faster and better, but changing from an OS you know to one you don't know with a launch commitment a week away doesn't seem like a very good idea to me. it isn't and I was recommending that, just commenting on a comment, I hope I didn't mislead :-) It is already the weekend here in Oz so I also assumed that the sites have to be up in 2 days, not 9, hence my suggetion for settings for a 32 bit 2K3 JVM. To the OP: Go with what you have got. -- Yours, Kym Kovan mbcomms.net.au ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344325 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!
Rob, I've written a few blog posts on the settings in the JVM and provide some very loose guidelines as to what to tune and set. Each server and application is unique and usually requires additional tuning beyond what the posts walk you through, but these will give you a good starting point and basic understanding. http://www.trunkful.com/index.cfm/JVM-Tuning Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On May 6, 2011, at 8:57 PM, Rob Rhodes wrote: Hello. I have been a lurker on this board for a while, and never thought I was qualified enough to offer opinions. Well, that has not changed. But now I could really use some advice on how to gear up quickly to handle a ton of traffic on a cf9 site. I can't really go into the details, but I have just inherited a cf9/SQL server site that gets well over a million page views per day. It was previously running on multiple servers using shared array. It's an impossible task, but I have to have this up and running this weekend. So, I don't have any time or money for complex solutions. I just need to this all to stay up long enough to figure out a proper plan. Until then, here is my working plan. Please tell me what you think. I have 4 cf9 standard licences, and four servers running win2k3 x86 (fairly fast processors and 4gb ram each). I have a fifth win2k3 server x64 running SQL Server 2005. These servetrs are recent installs and do not have any other sites on them. My plan is to load the site on all four servers, all pointing to the same database server (it appears much of the queries in the site are cached) I would then set up round-robin DNS to do the poor-mans load distribution. Most importantly I am hoping some of the gurus here might have some jvm tuning suggestions to help handle the load. Ok let me have it. Is there any hope, or am I just hopelessly screwed? Rob ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344327 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!
uh flak below should read folks. On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Robert Rhodes rrhode...@gmail.com wrote: Well you folks certainly have me thinking. I could set up one of the machine as a Win2K8 server and see how it does. If it's humming along just fine, then I can steer more traffic to it. With the speed increase you flak are talking about here, do you think a million page loads per day can be handled by one Win2K8 server? (with a backup in place of course) I understand the basics about how to set up a site in 2K8, but what about lockdown? Can anyone point me to a guide somewhere? The servers are behind a firewall with only port 443 and port 80 open. Nothing else. On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 1:24 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote: Yeah it does take a little getting used to the new UI changes, but the functionality and operations are still the same. Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Kym Kovan [mailto:dev-li...@mbcomms.net.au] Sent: Saturday, 7 May 2011 1:46 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time! We found 2K8 R2 so good that we are now trashing our oldest machines and moving to 2K8 wherever possible, the advantage is so great and it is not quirky, it is much easier than 2K3 once you get used to the new IIS, etc. I'd even stick my head out and say 2K8 R2 is a good operating system... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344330 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!
Well you folks certainly have me thinking. I could set up one of the machine as a Win2K8 server and see how it does. If it's humming along just fine, then I can steer more traffic to it. With the speed increase you flak are talking about here, do you think a million page loads per day can be handled by one Win2K8 server? (with a backup in place of course) I understand the basics about how to set up a site in 2K8, but what about lockdown? Can anyone point me to a guide somewhere? The servers are behind a firewall with only port 443 and port 80 open. Nothing else. On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 1:24 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote: Yeah it does take a little getting used to the new UI changes, but the functionality and operations are still the same. Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Kym Kovan [mailto:dev-li...@mbcomms.net.au] Sent: Saturday, 7 May 2011 1:46 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time! We found 2K8 R2 so good that we are now trashing our oldest machines and moving to 2K8 wherever possible, the advantage is so great and it is not quirky, it is much easier than 2K3 once you get used to the new IIS, etc. I'd even stick my head out and say 2K8 R2 is a good operating system... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344331 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!
Here you go http://lmgtfy.com/?q=windows+2008+lockdown If you get 1 million hits per day and you should really do some load testing as that is the only way will tell what it can handle, it is going to be more about what CF can handle rather than windows 2008. -Original Message- From: Robert Rhodes [mailto:rrhode...@gmail.com] Sent: 07 May 2011 14:44 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time! Well you folks certainly have me thinking. I could set up one of the machine as a Win2K8 server and see how it does. If it's humming along just fine, then I can steer more traffic to it. With the speed increase you flak are talking about here, do you think a million page loads per day can be handled by one Win2K8 server? (with a backup in place of course) I understand the basics about how to set up a site in 2K8, but what about lockdown? Can anyone point me to a guide somewhere? The servers are behind a firewall with only port 443 and port 80 open. Nothing else. On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 1:24 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote: Yeah it does take a little getting used to the new UI changes, but the functionality and operations are still the same. Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Kym Kovan [mailto:dev-li...@mbcomms.net.au] Sent: Saturday, 7 May 2011 1:46 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time! We found 2K8 R2 so good that we are now trashing our oldest machines and moving to 2K8 wherever possible, the advantage is so great and it is not quirky, it is much easier than 2K3 once you get used to the new IIS, etc. I'd even stick my head out and say 2K8 R2 is a good operating system... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344332 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!
In addition to other comments, it might be worth spending a minute reading up on Squid: http://www.squid-cache.org/ Caching some or all of the site could mean you can do the entire thing with just 2 CF machines. In my experience, the bottleneck for Squid is not the OS or Squid itself, but the capacity of the network cards in the machine. It can handle ALOT of traffic. The learning curve required to implement this may or may not be within your time window. -Cameron On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Rob Rhodes rrhode...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. I have been a lurker on this board for a while, and never thought I was qualified enough to offer opinions. Well, that has not changed. But now I could really use some advice on how to gear up quickly to handle a ton of traffic on a cf9 site. I can't really go into the details, but I have just inherited a cf9/SQL server site that gets well over a million page views per day. It was previously running on multiple servers using shared array. It's an impossible task, but I have to have this up and running this weekend. So, I don't have any time or money for complex solutions. I just need to this all to stay up long enough to figure out a proper plan. Until then, here is my working plan. Please tell me what you think. I have 4 cf9 standard licences, and four servers running win2k3 x86 (fairly fast processors and 4gb ram each). I have a fifth win2k3 server x64 running SQL Server 2005. These servetrs are recent installs and do not have any other sites on them. My plan is to load the site on all four servers, all pointing to the same database server (it appears much of the queries in the site are cached) I would then set up round-robin DNS to do the poor-mans load distribution. Most importantly I am hoping some of the gurus here might have some jvm tuning suggestions to help handle the load. Ok let me have it. Is there any hope, or am I just hopelessly screwed? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344334 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!
Thanks. I'll look into that. Being a Windows guy, I am not sure how well Squid and I would get along. :) On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.comwrote: In addition to other comments, it might be worth spending a minute reading up on Squid: http://www.squid-cache.org/ Caching some or all of the site could mean you can do the entire thing with just 2 CF machines. In my experience, the bottleneck for Squid is not the OS or Squid itself, but the capacity of the network cards in the machine. It can handle ALOT of traffic. The learning curve required to implement this may or may not be within your time window. -Cameron On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Rob Rhodes rrhode...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. I have been a lurker on this board for a while, and never thought I was qualified enough to offer opinions. Well, that has not changed. But now I could really use some advice on how to gear up quickly to handle a ton of traffic on a cf9 site. I can't really go into the details, but I have just inherited a cf9/SQL server site that gets well over a million page views per day. It was previously running on multiple servers using shared array. It's an impossible task, but I have to have this up and running this weekend. So, I don't have any time or money for complex solutions. I just need to this all to stay up long enough to figure out a proper plan. Until then, here is my working plan. Please tell me what you think. I have 4 cf9 standard licences, and four servers running win2k3 x86 (fairly fast processors and 4gb ram each). I have a fifth win2k3 server x64 running SQL Server 2005. These servetrs are recent installs and do not have any other sites on them. My plan is to load the site on all four servers, all pointing to the same database server (it appears much of the queries in the site are cached) I would then set up round-robin DNS to do the poor-mans load distribution. Most importantly I am hoping some of the gurus here might have some jvm tuning suggestions to help handle the load. Ok let me have it. Is there any hope, or am I just hopelessly screwed? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344338 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!
Robert, 1 million hits a day on a single CF8 or CF9 box of sufficient hardware is fairly easy to handle. I would want some more redundancy. Having a hot fail over for the CF box and the SQL server would be a good idea. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On May 7, 2011, at 4:44 PM, Robert Rhodes wrote: Thanks. I'll look into that. Being a Windows guy, I am not sure how well Squid and I would get along. :) On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.comwrote: In addition to other comments, it might be worth spending a minute reading up on Squid: http://www.squid-cache.org/ Caching some or all of the site could mean you can do the entire thing with just 2 CF machines. In my experience, the bottleneck for Squid is not the OS or Squid itself, but the capacity of the network cards in the machine. It can handle ALOT of traffic. The learning curve required to implement this may or may not be within your time window. -Cameron On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Rob Rhodes rrhode...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. I have been a lurker on this board for a while, and never thought I was qualified enough to offer opinions. Well, that has not changed. But now I could really use some advice on how to gear up quickly to handle a ton of traffic on a cf9 site. I can't really go into the details, but I have just inherited a cf9/SQL server site that gets well over a million page views per day. It was previously running on multiple servers using shared array. It's an impossible task, but I have to have this up and running this weekend. So, I don't have any time or money for complex solutions. I just need to this all to stay up long enough to figure out a proper plan. Until then, here is my working plan. Please tell me what you think. I have 4 cf9 standard licences, and four servers running win2k3 x86 (fairly fast processors and 4gb ram each). I have a fifth win2k3 server x64 running SQL Server 2005. These servetrs are recent installs and do not have any other sites on them. My plan is to load the site on all four servers, all pointing to the same database server (it appears much of the queries in the site are cached) I would then set up round-robin DNS to do the poor-mans load distribution. Most importantly I am hoping some of the gurus here might have some jvm tuning suggestions to help handle the load. Ok let me have it. Is there any hope, or am I just hopelessly screwed? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344339 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!
Well, I am thinking I will try one or two win2K8 servers. Unfortunately, I can't order any licenses until Monday. And by then it will be too late. Does anyone know if the evaluation version of Win2K* R2 in MS TechNet will work temporarily as web server in evaluation mode (no license applied)? That is: will a W2K* R2 server in evaluation mode allow all these connections? I know we are suopposed to use them in production, but I really would order the licenses before I installed them and would apply the licenses on those servers as soon as they came in. I am hoping it is a minor sin. :) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344340 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!
Robert, Get a fairly standard set of JVM args and duplicate them on all 4. Since you are running 32bit you will be limited to a 1.3 gig heap size (max 1280m would be a good starting space with a 256 meg perm size). Since you don't have time to do anything else I'd say go for it and see what happens. The only thing that worries me is sessions... are you confident that your round robin scheme will work and there's no problem with user information (sessions) crossing from one to the other... or not crossing as the case may be :) -mark Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG (402) 408-3733 ext 105 www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com www.necfug.com -Original Message- From: Robert Rhodes [mailto:rrhode...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 4:45 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time! Thanks. I'll look into that. Being a Windows guy, I am not sure how well Squid and I would get along. :) On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.comwrote: In addition to other comments, it might be worth spending a minute reading up on Squid: http://www.squid-cache.org/ Caching some or all of the site could mean you can do the entire thing with just 2 CF machines. In my experience, the bottleneck for Squid is not the OS or Squid itself, but the capacity of the network cards in the machine. It can handle ALOT of traffic. The learning curve required to implement this may or may not be within your time window. -Cameron On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Rob Rhodes rrhode...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. I have been a lurker on this board for a while, and never thought I was qualified enough to offer opinions. Well, that has not changed. But now I could really use some advice on how to gear up quickly to handle a ton of traffic on a cf9 site. I can't really go into the details, but I have just inherited a cf9/SQL server site that gets well over a million page views per day. It was previously running on multiple servers using shared array. It's an impossible task, but I have to have this up and running this weekend. So, I don't have any time or money for complex solutions. I just need to this all to stay up long enough to figure out a proper plan. Until then, here is my working plan. Please tell me what you think. I have 4 cf9 standard licences, and four servers running win2k3 x86 (fairly fast processors and 4gb ram each). I have a fifth win2k3 server x64 running SQL Server 2005. These servetrs are recent installs and do not have any other sites on them. My plan is to load the site on all four servers, all pointing to the same database server (it appears much of the queries in the site are cached) I would then set up round-robin DNS to do the poor-mans load distribution. Most importantly I am hoping some of the gurus here might have some jvm tuning suggestions to help handle the load. Ok let me have it. Is there any hope, or am I just hopelessly screwed? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344341 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!
Another option (and I hope people don't flame me for this) is to set up a Railo server somewhere there, or at least a few instances on a box, then you can handle a lot of traffic with a smaller memory footprint. Just a thought. Regards Mark Drew On 7 May 2011, at 17:44, Robert Rhodes wrote: Thanks. I'll look into that. Being a Windows guy, I am not sure how well Squid and I would get along. :) On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.comwrote: In addition to other comments, it might be worth spending a minute reading up on Squid: http://www.squid-cache.org/ Caching some or all of the site could mean you can do the entire thing with just 2 CF machines. In my experience, the bottleneck for Squid is not the OS or Squid itself, but the capacity of the network cards in the machine. It can handle ALOT of traffic. The learning curve required to implement this may or may not be within your time window. -Cameron On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Rob Rhodes rrhode...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. I have been a lurker on this board for a while, and never thought I was qualified enough to offer opinions. Well, that has not changed. But now I could really use some advice on how to gear up quickly to handle a ton of traffic on a cf9 site. I can't really go into the details, but I have just inherited a cf9/SQL server site that gets well over a million page views per day. It was previously running on multiple servers using shared array. It's an impossible task, but I have to have this up and running this weekend. So, I don't have any time or money for complex solutions. I just need to this all to stay up long enough to figure out a proper plan. Until then, here is my working plan. Please tell me what you think. I have 4 cf9 standard licences, and four servers running win2k3 x86 (fairly fast processors and 4gb ram each). I have a fifth win2k3 server x64 running SQL Server 2005. These servetrs are recent installs and do not have any other sites on them. My plan is to load the site on all four servers, all pointing to the same database server (it appears much of the queries in the site are cached) I would then set up round-robin DNS to do the poor-mans load distribution. Most importantly I am hoping some of the gurus here might have some jvm tuning suggestions to help handle the load. Ok let me have it. Is there any hope, or am I just hopelessly screwed? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344342 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!
It looks like I will be x64 on Win2K8R2 for two of these boxes which will have only 4gb on memory, at least for now. With that in mind... can I up my jvm settings a bit? On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Mark A. Kruger mkru...@cfwebtools.comwrote: Robert, Get a fairly standard set of JVM args and duplicate them on all 4. Since you are running 32bit you will be limited to a 1.3 gig heap size (max 1280m would be a good starting space with a 256 meg perm size). Since you don't have time to do anything else I'd say go for it and see what happens. The only thing that worries me is sessions... are you confident that your round robin scheme will work and there's no problem with user information (sessions) crossing from one to the other... or not crossing as the case may be :) -mark Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG (402) 408-3733 ext 105 www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com www.necfug.com -Original Message- From: Robert Rhodes [mailto:rrhode...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 4:45 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time! Thanks. I'll look into that. Being a Windows guy, I am not sure how well Squid and I would get along. :) On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: In addition to other comments, it might be worth spending a minute reading up on Squid: http://www.squid-cache.org/ Caching some or all of the site could mean you can do the entire thing with just 2 CF machines. In my experience, the bottleneck for Squid is not the OS or Squid itself, but the capacity of the network cards in the machine. It can handle ALOT of traffic. The learning curve required to implement this may or may not be within your time window. -Cameron On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Rob Rhodes rrhode...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. I have been a lurker on this board for a while, and never thought I was qualified enough to offer opinions. Well, that has not changed. But now I could really use some advice on how to gear up quickly to handle a ton of traffic on a cf9 site. I can't really go into the details, but I have just inherited a cf9/SQL server site that gets well over a million page views per day. It was previously running on multiple servers using shared array. It's an impossible task, but I have to have this up and running this weekend. So, I don't have any time or money for complex solutions. I just need to this all to stay up long enough to figure out a proper plan. Until then, here is my working plan. Please tell me what you think. I have 4 cf9 standard licences, and four servers running win2k3 x86 (fairly fast processors and 4gb ram each). I have a fifth win2k3 server x64 running SQL Server 2005. These servetrs are recent installs and do not have any other sites on them. My plan is to load the site on all four servers, all pointing to the same database server (it appears much of the queries in the site are cached) I would then set up round-robin DNS to do the poor-mans load distribution. Most importantly I am hoping some of the gurus here might have some jvm tuning suggestions to help handle the load. Ok let me have it. Is there any hope, or am I just hopelessly screwed? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344343 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!
On 8/05/2011 9:29 AM, Robert Rhodes wrote: It looks like I will be x64 on Win2K8R2 for two of these boxes which will have only 4gb on memory, at least for now. With that in mind... can I up my jvm settings a bit? In a prod environment the OS will run about 1GB mem usage and 2K8 has this extra mem allocation caching trick which is really useful on hard working machines but you cannot allow much for that with only 4GB RAM. I'd say set the JVM for 2.5GB and 512 Perm and see how it flows (Look at mem usage in the Resource Monitor which you find in the Task Manager, if there is just a tad of Really Free Mem then you are fine.) -- Yours, Kym Kovan mbcomms.net.au ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344344 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses
I have no problem with calling a spade a spade (and the OP's boss is most decidedly a bureaucratic tool), and if that prevents me from being hired by another tool, all the better. Pete On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Phillip Vector vec...@mostdeadlygame.comwrote: Just to point out.. These archives are googled and cached for .. well.. forever. You may not want to refer to people as a tool if you plan on working in the future. Just sayin. On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 8:02 AM, Pete Ruckelshaus pruckelsh...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds like your new IT manager is a tool. I hope he has a plan to rewrite those legacy apps! On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Ralph B Littleleaf ho...@littleleaf.org wrote: Our department has several legacy CF servers running CF 5. They have worked great for us which is good since the student workers who developed the departmental applications on them have left years ago. But now we got a new IT manager, and unless we can find the purchasing documents, he will wipe the servers. We have the original CF boxes with the install CDs and serial numbers. But he will not accept that as proof of license. It has been so long ago that we have gone through four purchasing agents. Our current one cannot locate the original purchasing documents, and the IT manager says that POs do not count. Unfortunately, our department has been under budget constraints for the past three years. We cannot afford to buy new CF licenses even with an educational discount nor hire new programmers to modify our legacy CF code to work with the lattest CF platform. Does anyone know where we can purchase CF licenses for past versions of CF server? Or locate something official that states ownership of CF Server Software boxes with CDs and Serial Codes are sufficient proof of lincense? Please help! Thank-you, Ralph ho...@littleleaf.org ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344299 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!
Curious why you are going with Windows 2003 x86 ( I assume you already have these licenses) over 2008 R2 x64 the speed difference is humungous. Also how much of this are you purchasing new as to comparing with what you already have? I am wondering whether it might be cheaper to throw more hardware, ram at the current boxes and Virtual Machine the instances. Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Rob Rhodes [mailto:rrhode...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, 7 May 2011 11:58 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time! Hello. I have been a lurker on this board for a while, and never thought I was qualified enough to offer opinions. Well, that has not changed. But now I could really use some advice on how to gear up quickly to handle a ton of traffic on a cf9 site. I can't really go into the details, but I have just inherited a cf9/SQL server site that gets well over a million page views per day. It was previously running on multiple servers using shared array. It's an impossible task, but I have to have this up and running this weekend. So, I don't have any time or money for complex solutions. I just need to this all to stay up long enough to figure out a proper plan. Until then, here is my working plan. Please tell me what you think. I have 4 cf9 standard licences, and four servers running win2k3 x86 (fairly fast processors and 4gb ram each). I have a fifth win2k3 server x64 running SQL Server 2005. These servetrs are recent installs and do not have any other sites on them. My plan is to load the site on all four servers, all pointing to the same database server (it appears much of the queries in the site are cached) I would then set up round-robin DNS to do the poor-mans load distribution. Most importantly I am hoping some of the gurus here might have some jvm tuning suggestions to help handle the load. Ok let me have it. Is there any hope, or am I just hopelessly screwed? Rob ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344318 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!
On 7/05/2011 11:57, Rob Rhodes wrote: I have 4 cf9 standard licences, and four servers running win2k3 x86 (fairly fast processors and 4gb ram each). I have a fifth win2k3 server x64 running SQL Server 2005. These servetrs are recent installs and do not have any other sites on them. My plan is to load the site on all four servers, all pointing to the same database server (it appears much of the queries in the site are cached) I would then set up round-robin DNS to do the poor-mans load distribution. Most importantly I am hoping some of the gurus here might have some jvm tuning suggestions to help handle the load. We used to have servers with similar workload to what you describe before we went 64bit and virtual for those sites (with a startling increase in performance) and found a good base to start from was 1024MB max JVM heap size and a MaxPermSize of 256m. As you are 32bit then the max you can go to with max JVM Heap is about 1.4GB (theoretically 1.8GB but we never made that work) but be warned, _do not_ set the Minimum heap size to the same as the max when you are at these higher levels, CF frequently will refuse to start with out of memory errors in the output log. We found leaving the JVM min heap at 256MB gave a fast start and it wound up to the max fast enuf anyway :-) On some machines, (slightly different site combinations) the MaxPermSize ran best at 512MB. HTH -- Yours, Kym Kovan mbcomms.net.au ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344319 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!
Yes, it's because that's what I have. And honestly, I am only a little familiar with Win2K8, which seems a bit quirky to me. And I am worried that inexperience with it would lead to some problem I could not fix. I know Win2K3 fairly well. You just set it up and it goes and goes, no problem. I am hoping four win2K3s servers in round robin will handle the load. On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:18 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote: Curious why you are going with Windows 2003 x86 ( I assume you already have these licenses) over 2008 R2 x64 the speed difference is humungous. Also how much of this are you purchasing new as to comparing with what you already have? I am wondering whether it might be cheaper to throw more hardware, ram at the current boxes and Virtual Machine the instances. Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Rob Rhodes [mailto:rrhode...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, 7 May 2011 11:58 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time! Hello. I have been a lurker on this board for a while, and never thought I was qualified enough to offer opinions. Well, that has not changed. But now I could really use some advice on how to gear up quickly to handle a ton of traffic on a cf9 site. I can't really go into the details, but I have just inherited a cf9/SQL server site that gets well over a million page views per day. It was previously running on multiple servers using shared array. It's an impossible task, but I have to have this up and running this weekend. So, I don't have any time or money for complex solutions. I just need to this all to stay up long enough to figure out a proper plan. Until then, here is my working plan. Please tell me what you think. I have 4 cf9 standard licences, and four servers running win2k3 x86 (fairly fast processors and 4gb ram each). I have a fifth win2k3 server x64 running SQL Server 2005. These servetrs are recent installs and do not have any other sites on them. My plan is to load the site on all four servers, all pointing to the same database server (it appears much of the queries in the site are cached) I would then set up round-robin DNS to do the poor-mans load distribution. Most importantly I am hoping some of the gurus here might have some jvm tuning suggestions to help handle the load. Ok let me have it. Is there any hope, or am I just hopelessly screwed? Rob ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344320 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!
We found 2K8 R2 so good that we are now trashing our oldest machines and moving to 2K8 wherever possible, the advantage is so great and it is not quirky, it is much easier than 2K3 once you get used to the new IIS, etc. I'd even stick my head out and say 2K8 R2 is a good operating system... On 7/05/2011 13:38, Robert Rhodes wrote: Yes, it's because that's what I have. And honestly, I am only a little familiar with Win2K8, which seems a bit quirky to me. And I am worried that inexperience with it would lead to some problem I could not fix. I know Win2K3 fairly well. You just set it up and it goes and goes, no problem. I am hoping four win2K3s servers in round robin will handle the load. -- Yours, Kym Kovan mbcomms.net.au ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344321 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!
Yeah it does take a little getting used to the new UI changes, but the functionality and operations are still the same. Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Kym Kovan [mailto:dev-li...@mbcomms.net.au] Sent: Saturday, 7 May 2011 1:46 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time! We found 2K8 R2 so good that we are now trashing our oldest machines and moving to 2K8 wherever possible, the advantage is so great and it is not quirky, it is much easier than 2K3 once you get used to the new IIS, etc. I'd even stick my head out and say 2K8 R2 is a good operating system... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344323 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!
Perhaps you are right about 2K8 being faster and better, but changing from an OS you know to one you don't know with a launch commitment a week away doesn't seem like a very good idea to me. On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Kym Kovan dev-li...@mbcomms.net.au wrote: We found 2K8 R2 so good that we are now trashing our oldest machines and moving to 2K8 wherever possible, the advantage is so great and it is not quirky, it is much easier than 2K3 once you get used to the new IIS, etc. I'd even stick my head out and say 2K8 R2 is a good operating system... On 7/05/2011 13:38, Robert Rhodes wrote: Yes, it's because that's what I have. And honestly, I am only a little familiar with Win2K8, which seems a bit quirky to me. And I am worried that inexperience with it would lead to some problem I could not fix. I know Win2K3 fairly well. You just set it up and it goes and goes, no problem. I am hoping four win2K3s servers in round robin will handle the loa ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344324 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses
Thank-you all for your replies. A. Open Source Last month, a student worker setup a test Railo server and moved a copy of the CF code there. It immediately errored out. So I am not sure how much of a rewrite is needed. FYI, CF 5 predates the JAVA version of CF. B. Adobe Adobe bought out Allaire after CF 5. We were registered with Allaire but Adobe is not helpful. Basically, we were told that they do not support such an outdated version nor have records regarding them. C. Tool Unfortunately, our school is a bureaucrat's dream. Our director is helpless as the IT manager can cite univeristy SAP regulations all day. It's sad and funny at the same time. Allaire already got our money. Adobe doesn't much care as our version predates their take over. And we got five CF server boxes that are considered worthless because how software licenses are defined. PS A friend tried our legacy code on their CF 8 box, and it works. So CF 5-8 versions are possibilities so long as we can get the licenses at a price we can afford. I am afraid of getting them from eBay. How can one tell if the license is valid? -Ralph ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344251 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses
Please post Railo errors on the Railo mail list http://groups.google.com/group/railo http://groups.google.com/group/railoI am sure people there will be more than happy to help out and I am sure they can be resolved very quickly On 5 May 2011 20:11, Ralph B Littleleaf ho...@littleleaf.org wrote: Thank-you all for your replies. A. Open Source Last month, a student worker setup a test Railo server and moved a copy of the CF code there. It immediately errored out. So I am not sure how much of a rewrite is needed. FYI, CF 5 predates the JAVA version of CF. -Ralph -- *AJ Mercer* webonix:net strength=Industrial / http://webonix.net | webonix:org community=Open / http://webonix.org http://twitter.com/webonix Railo Community Manager http://www.getrailo.org/index.cfm/community/team/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344252 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses
On 5/05/2011 10:22 PM, AJ Mercer wrote: Please post Railo errors on the Railo mail list Adding to that, if the code works on ACF8 then there can be few problems on the Open Source engines as they are basically CF8 compatible. Any errors are going to be slight, or even bad code that CF5 allowed you to get away with :-) -- Yours, Kym Kovan mbcomms.net.au ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344253 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses
Ralph, The lesson here is that you have unsupported software that Adobe does not care about. Clearly they are not concerned about whether it's licensed either so you are probably in the clear. If the university was really concerned with licensing then the IT manager would be more concerned about being on a SUPPORTED version and you would have upgraded over the years and be on at least version 7 or 8 by now. But I'm not sure you can overcome the short-sightedness of one guy who holds all the cards :) -Mark Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG (402) 408-3733 ext 105 www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com www.necfug.com -Original Message- From: Ralph B Littleleaf [mailto:ho...@littleleaf.org] Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 7:11 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses Thank-you all for your replies. A. Open Source Last month, a student worker setup a test Railo server and moved a copy of the CF code there. It immediately errored out. So I am not sure how much of a rewrite is needed. FYI, CF 5 predates the JAVA version of CF. B. Adobe Adobe bought out Allaire after CF 5. We were registered with Allaire but Adobe is not helpful. Basically, we were told that they do not support such an outdated version nor have records regarding them. C. Tool Unfortunately, our school is a bureaucrat's dream. Our director is helpless as the IT manager can cite univeristy SAP regulations all day. It's sad and funny at the same time. Allaire already got our money. Adobe doesn't much care as our version predates their take over. And we got five CF server boxes that are considered worthless because how software licenses are defined. PS A friend tried our legacy code on their CF 8 box, and it works. So CF 5-8 versions are possibilities so long as we can get the licenses at a price we can afford. I am afraid of getting them from eBay. How can one tell if the license is valid? -Ralph ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344254 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses
FYI, CF 5 predates the JAVA version of CF. True, but the core CFML language was kept backwards compatible as much as possible to ease migrations. If you're using CFX extensions written in C++ then you may not be able to transition to the open source platforms; I do not know if C++ CFX is supported there or not. They are supported in newer versions of Adobe ColdFusion though. Adobe bought out Allaire after CF 5. Not that it's very relevant, but Macromedia actually bought Allaire, and Adobe bought Macromedia, so it would be even more unlikely that Adobe will still have your purchase records on file. It's sad and funny at the same time. Allaire already got our money. Adobe doesn't much care as our version predates their take over. And we got five CF server boxes that are considered worthless because how software licenses are defined. That's just how software works. Try to get support from Microsoft for Windows 2000 and you'll essentially run into the same thing. CF5 was out around the same time so I wouldn't expect ongoing support for it either. PS A friend tried our legacy code on their CF 8 box, and it works. That is good news, at least you know the code will still work. In addition to eBay, you might also look at Amazon to see if other sellers have new in retail box copies for sale at a reduced rate. -Jus ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344258 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses
These types of organizations love Cost/Benefit Analysis reports. Figure out how much it would cost to redevelop these applications compared to the cost of a few licenses. Also, more powerful hardware can be bought cheap (used/refurbished) and ColdFusion 7, 8 and 9 are far more powerful than ColdFusion 5 and can handle more load on a single machine than ColdFusion 5 (with proper configuration of course). It may be possible to serve the same load or greater with far fewer ColdFusion licenses. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On May 5, 2011, at 7:11 AM, Ralph B Littleleaf wrote: Thank-you all for your replies. A. Open Source Last month, a student worker setup a test Railo server and moved a copy of the CF code there. It immediately errored out. So I am not sure how much of a rewrite is needed. FYI, CF 5 predates the JAVA version of CF. B. Adobe Adobe bought out Allaire after CF 5. We were registered with Allaire but Adobe is not helpful. Basically, we were told that they do not support such an outdated version nor have records regarding them. C. Tool Unfortunately, our school is a bureaucrat's dream. Our director is helpless as the IT manager can cite univeristy SAP regulations all day. It's sad and funny at the same time. Allaire already got our money. Adobe doesn't much care as our version predates their take over. And we got five CF server boxes that are considered worthless because how software licenses are defined. PS A friend tried our legacy code on their CF 8 box, and it works. So CF 5-8 versions are possibilities so long as we can get the licenses at a price we can afford. I am afraid of getting them from eBay. How can one tell if the license is valid? -Ralph ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344259 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses
we have bought cf off ebay several times. you do get some dodgy ones for sure, but if they are legit then they will have a boxed product and a license key/card, which u can asked them to send you a scan of. On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Mark A. Kruger mkru...@cfwebtools.comwrote: Ralph, The lesson here is that you have unsupported software that Adobe does not care about. Clearly they are not concerned about whether it's licensed either so you are probably in the clear. If the university was really concerned with licensing then the IT manager would be more concerned about being on a SUPPORTED version and you would have upgraded over the years and be on at least version 7 or 8 by now. But I'm not sure you can overcome the short-sightedness of one guy who holds all the cards :) -Mark Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG (402) 408-3733 ext 105 www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com www.necfug.com -Original Message- From: Ralph B Littleleaf [mailto:ho...@littleleaf.org] Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 7:11 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses Thank-you all for your replies. A. Open Source Last month, a student worker setup a test Railo server and moved a copy of the CF code there. It immediately errored out. So I am not sure how much of a rewrite is needed. FYI, CF 5 predates the JAVA version of CF. B. Adobe Adobe bought out Allaire after CF 5. We were registered with Allaire but Adobe is not helpful. Basically, we were told that they do not support such an outdated version nor have records regarding them. C. Tool Unfortunately, our school is a bureaucrat's dream. Our director is helpless as the IT manager can cite univeristy SAP regulations all day. It's sad and funny at the same time. Allaire already got our money. Adobe doesn't much care as our version predates their take over. And we got five CF server boxes that are considered worthless because how software licenses are defined. PS A friend tried our legacy code on their CF 8 box, and it works. So CF 5-8 versions are possibilities so long as we can get the licenses at a price we can afford. I am afraid of getting them from eBay. How can one tell if the license is valid? -Ralph ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344261 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses
On 5/5/2011 5:11 AM, Ralph B Littleleaf wrote: PS A friend tried our legacy code on their CF 8 box, and it works. So CF 5-8 versions are possibilities so long as we can get the licenses at a price we can afford. I can not speak to the affordability for you, but I just wanted to make sure you know that CF8 *IS* still officially supported and sold by Adobe. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344262 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses
Does anyone know where we can purchase CF licenses for past versions of CF server? Or locate something official that states ownership of CF Server Software boxes with CDs and Serial Codes are sufficient proof of lincense? If you buy a new license, you can use it with an older version of CF. Here's my suggestion: talk to an Adobe EDU sales rep. Tell him about your situation. Tell him that you'd like to upgrade to a new version, but you simply don't have the budget to do that this year. Ask him if he'll write a letter validating your current license situation, so that you don't have to get rid of your CF servers in the meantime - of course, if you had to get rid of CF today it's less likely you'll purchase a license in the future. Then, buy a CF license next year. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344264 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Justin Scott leviat...@darktech.org wrote: True, but the core CFML language was kept backwards compatible as much as possible to ease migrations. If you're using CFX extensions written in C++ then you may not be able to transition to the open source platforms; I do not know if C++ CFX is supported there or not. Open BlueDragon has supported C++ CFX for years and Railo just worked with three sponsoring companies to get that code integrated into Railo (so those sponsors get it first - everyone will get it eventually). The OpenBD copyright holders released that code to Railo under LGPL so it could be incorporated without license conflicts. Adobe bought out Allaire after CF 5. Not that it's very relevant, but Macromedia actually bought Allaire, and Adobe bought Macromedia, so it would be even more unlikely that Adobe will still have your purchase records on file. And Macromedia bought Allaire *before* CF5 shipped. We closed the deal in March 2001 and CF5 shipped as a Macromedia product in June or July. What became CFMX (6.0) was well under development at that point and my team (at Macromedia) started using early builds of CFMX in September I believe (the alpha came in early 2002). That's just how software works. Try to get support from Microsoft for Windows 2000 and you'll essentially run into the same thing. CF5 was out around the same time so I wouldn't expect ongoing support for it either. Adobe (and Macromedia and Allaire) support only one or two versions back and that's pretty typical for all software companies. If you don't pay maintenance or you don't buy upgrades, they have no incentive (nor obligation) to continue supporting you. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ World Singles, LLC. -- http://worldsingles.com/ Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://www.getrailo.com/ Perfection is the enemy of the good. -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-18 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344267 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses
Unfortunately, our department has been under budget constraints for the past three years. We cannot afford to buy new CF licenses even with an educational discount nor hire new programmers to modify our legacy CF code to work with the lattest CF platform. Hi Ralph, I unfortunately do not have an answer to your question, but have you considered testing the applications on one of the free ColdFusion engines such as Railo or Open BlueDragon? ColdFusion code is generally very backwards compatible and I've seen CF5 applications get moved to CF9 servers with only very minor tweaks to the code. The products mentioned above are free and should provide support for all of the tags that were available in version 5 and you would no longer have to be concerned about licensing issues. -Justin ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344212 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses
If you have the serial numbers I would call Adobe. It's possible they are registered there - especially if you bought a subscription as well. I'd say they will probably work with you on this. Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG (402) 408-3733 ext 105 www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com www.necfug.com -Original Message- From: Ralph B Littleleaf [mailto:ho...@littleleaf.org] Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 7:59 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses Our department has several legacy CF servers running CF 5. They have worked great for us which is good since the student workers who developed the departmental applications on them have left years ago. But now we got a new IT manager, and unless we can find the purchasing documents, he will wipe the servers. We have the original CF boxes with the install CDs and serial numbers. But he will not accept that as proof of license. It has been so long ago that we have gone through four purchasing agents. Our current one cannot locate the original purchasing documents, and the IT manager says that POs do not count. Unfortunately, our department has been under budget constraints for the past three years. We cannot afford to buy new CF licenses even with an educational discount nor hire new programmers to modify our legacy CF code to work with the lattest CF platform. Does anyone know where we can purchase CF licenses for past versions of CF server? Or locate something official that states ownership of CF Server Software boxes with CDs and Serial Codes are sufficient proof of lincense? Please help! Thank-you, Ralph ho...@littleleaf.org ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344213 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses
If you register your license on the Adobe site, and then show your idiot IT manager, maybe he will accept this ? Otherwise perhaps you can get some receipt from Adobe. I do have a spare CF5 license as it goes if you would like to make me an offer, otherwise I think your only option is ebay. On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Ralph B Littleleaf ho...@littleleaf.orgwrote: Our department has several legacy CF servers running CF 5. They have worked great for us which is good since the student workers who developed the departmental applications on them have left years ago. But now we got a new IT manager, and unless we can find the purchasing documents, he will wipe the servers. We have the original CF boxes with the install CDs and serial numbers. But he will not accept that as proof of license. It has been so long ago that we have gone through four purchasing agents. Our current one cannot locate the original purchasing documents, and the IT manager says that POs do not count. Unfortunately, our department has been under budget constraints for the past three years. We cannot afford to buy new CF licenses even with an educational discount nor hire new programmers to modify our legacy CF code to work with the lattest CF platform. Does anyone know where we can purchase CF licenses for past versions of CF server? Or locate something official that states ownership of CF Server Software boxes with CDs and Serial Codes are sufficient proof of lincense? Please help! Thank-you, Ralph ho...@littleleaf.org ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344214 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses
Sounds like your new IT manager is a tool. I hope he has a plan to rewrite those legacy apps! On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Ralph B Littleleaf ho...@littleleaf.orgwrote: Our department has several legacy CF servers running CF 5. They have worked great for us which is good since the student workers who developed the departmental applications on them have left years ago. But now we got a new IT manager, and unless we can find the purchasing documents, he will wipe the servers. We have the original CF boxes with the install CDs and serial numbers. But he will not accept that as proof of license. It has been so long ago that we have gone through four purchasing agents. Our current one cannot locate the original purchasing documents, and the IT manager says that POs do not count. Unfortunately, our department has been under budget constraints for the past three years. We cannot afford to buy new CF licenses even with an educational discount nor hire new programmers to modify our legacy CF code to work with the lattest CF platform. Does anyone know where we can purchase CF licenses for past versions of CF server? Or locate something official that states ownership of CF Server Software boxes with CDs and Serial Codes are sufficient proof of lincense? Please help! Thank-you, Ralph ho...@littleleaf.org ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344220 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses
HAHA - I was thinking the same thing! -Original Message- From: Pete Ruckelshaus pruckelsh...@gmail.com To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 11:02:05 -0400 Subject: Re: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses Sounds like your new IT manager is a tool. I hope he has a plan to rewrite those legacy apps! On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Ralph B Littleleaf ho...@littleleaf.orgwrote: Our department has several legacy CF servers running CF 5. They have worked great for us which is good since the student workers who developed the departmental applications on them have left years ago. But now we got a new IT manager, and unless we can find the purchasing documents, he will wipe the servers. We have the original CF boxes with the install CDs and serial numbers. But he will not accept that as proof of license. It has been so long ago that we have gone through four purchasing agents. Our current one cannot locate the original purchasing documents, and the IT manager says that POs do not count. Unfortunately, our department has been under budget constraints for the past three years. We cannot afford to buy new CF licenses even with an educational discount nor hire new programmers to modify our legacy CF code to work with the lattest CF platform. Does anyone know where we can purchase CF licenses for past versions of CF server? Or locate something official that states ownership of CF Server Software boxes with CDs and Serial Codes are sufficient proof of lincense? Please help! Thank-you, Ralph ho...@littleleaf.org ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344221 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses
If you cannot get any help from Adobe, you may want to consider using one of the open source CFML engines like Open BlueDragon (http://www.openbluedragon.org/) or Railo (http://www.getRailo.com). Unless there is something very weird about your setup, after recreating your data sources, and inputting in all the requisite mail server information etc., the apps should run without a hitch. More importantly you'll find that they'll run much faster, where on the Adobe or the FOSS engines. regards, larry Our department has several legacy CF servers running CF 5. They have worked great for us which is good since the student workers who developed the departmental applications on them have left years ago. But now we got a new IT manager, and unless we can find the purchasing documents, he will wipe the servers. We have the original CF boxes with the install CDs and serial numbers. But he will not accept that as proof of license. It has been so long ago that we have gone through four purchasing agents. Our current one cannot locate the original purchasing documents, and the IT manager says that POs do not count. Unfortunately, our department has been under budget constraints for the past three years. We cannot afford to buy new CF licenses even with an educational discount nor hire new programmers to modify our legacy CF code to work with the lattest CF platform. Does anyone know where we can purchase CF licenses for past versions of CF server? Or locate something official that states ownership of CF Server Software boxes with CDs and Serial Codes are sufficient proof of lincense? Please help! Thank-you, Ralph ho...@littleleaf.org ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344222 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm