Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Robert Harrison

Very disappointing statistics for ColdFusion market penetration. 

http://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/programming_language/all 

Robert B. Harrison
Director of Interactive Services
Austin  Williams
125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 
Hauppauge NY 11788
P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 
F : 631.434.7022
http://www.austin-williams.com 

Great advertising can't be either/or.  It must be .

Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged
http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:349098
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


Re: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Phillip Vector

The following server-side programming languages are used by less than
0.1% of the websites

JavaScript

All credibility is lost with that statement.

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 8:02 AM, Robert Harrison
rob...@austin-williams.com wrote:

 Very disappointing statistics for ColdFusion market penetration.

 http://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/programming_language/all

 Robert B. Harrison
 Director of Interactive Services
 Austin  Williams
 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100
 Hauppauge NY 11788
 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119
 F : 631.434.7022
 http://www.austin-williams.com

 Great advertising can't be either/or.  It must be .

 Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged
 http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged

 

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:349099
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


Re: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Dan Baughman

Because you think node.js is more popular?

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Phillip Vector
vec...@mostdeadlygame.comwrote:


 The following server-side programming languages are used by less than
 0.1% of the websites

JavaScript

 All credibility is lost with that statement.

 On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 8:02 AM, Robert Harrison
 rob...@austin-williams.com wrote:
 
  Very disappointing statistics for ColdFusion market penetration.
 
  http://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/programming_language/all
 
  Robert B. Harrison
  Director of Interactive Services
  Austin  Williams
  125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100
  Hauppauge NY 11788
  P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119
  F : 631.434.7022
  http://www.austin-williams.com
 
  Great advertising can't be either/or.  It must be .
 
  Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged
  http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged
 
 

 

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:349100
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


RE: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Robert Harrison

 The following server-side programming languages are used by less than 0.1% of 
 the websites
JavaScript

  All credibility is lost with that statement

I don't think so.   There are a few people using Javascript on the server. I've 
actually seen it once. Crazy, but nonetheless it is real. 



Robert B. Harrison
Director of Interactive Services
Austin  Williams
125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 
Hauppauge NY 11788
P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 
F : 631.434.7022
http://www.austin-williams.com 

Great advertising can't be either/or.  It must be .

Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged
http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:349101
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


Re: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Phillip Vector

Please correct me if I am wrong. But doesn't Javascript run Client
side? Is there a way to make Javascript run on the server and not on
the client? If so, that would solve some issues I've been having. :)

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 8:08 AM, Dan Baughman dan.baugh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Because you think node.js is more popular?

 On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Phillip Vector
 vec...@mostdeadlygame.comwrote:


 The following server-side programming languages are used by less than
 0.1% of the websites

    JavaScript

 All credibility is lost with that statement.

 On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 8:02 AM, Robert Harrison
 rob...@austin-williams.com wrote:
 
  Very disappointing statistics for ColdFusion market penetration.
 
  http://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/programming_language/all
 
  Robert B. Harrison
  Director of Interactive Services
  Austin  Williams
  125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100
  Hauppauge NY 11788
  P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119
  F : 631.434.7022
  http://www.austin-williams.com
 
  Great advertising can't be either/or.  It must be .
 
  Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged
  http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged
 
 



 

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:349102
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


Re: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Dan Baughman

http://nodejs.org/

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Phillip Vector
vec...@mostdeadlygame.comwrote:


 Please correct me if I am wrong. But doesn't Javascript run Client
 side? Is there a way to make Javascript run on the server and not on
 the client? If so, that would solve some issues I've been having. :)

 On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 8:08 AM, Dan Baughman dan.baugh...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Because you think node.js is more popular?
 
  On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Phillip Vector
  vec...@mostdeadlygame.comwrote:
 
 
  The following server-side programming languages are used by less than
  0.1% of the websites
 
 JavaScript
 
  All credibility is lost with that statement.
 
  On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 8:02 AM, Robert Harrison
  rob...@austin-williams.com wrote:
  
   Very disappointing statistics for ColdFusion market penetration.
  
   http://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/programming_language/all
  
   Robert B. Harrison
   Director of Interactive Services
   Austin  Williams
   125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100
   Hauppauge NY 11788
   P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119
   F : 631.434.7022
   http://www.austin-williams.com
  
   Great advertising can't be either/or.  It must be .
  
   Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged
   http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged
  
  
 
 
 
 

 

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:349103
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


RE: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Robert Harrison

Yes you can run JS server side. It's rare: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nodejs 

However, the focus is 1.2% ColdFusion. OMG.  

Robert B. Harrison
Director of Interactive Services
Austin  Williams
125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 
Hauppauge NY 11788
P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 
F : 631.434.7022
http://www.austin-williams.com 

Great advertising can't be either/or.  It must be .

Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged
http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:349104
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


Re: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Phillip Vector

I still wouldn't give it credence.. Don't forget, the web is a big
place. Allot of the sites visited are probably forums and such (which
php is dominant). Any company wanting quality will go for CF or
ASP.Net.

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 8:14 AM, Robert Harrison
rob...@austin-williams.com wrote:

 Yes you can run JS server side. It's rare: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nodejs

 However, the focus is 1.2% ColdFusion. OMG.

 Robert B. Harrison
 Director of Interactive Services
 Austin  Williams
 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100
 Hauppauge NY 11788
 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119
 F : 631.434.7022
 http://www.austin-williams.com

 Great advertising can't be either/or.  It must be .

 Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged
 http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged

 

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:349105
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


Re: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Justin Scott

 Very disappointing statistics for ColdFusion market penetration.
 http://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/programming_language/all

I'm actually surprised it's as high as it is given their methodology.
They claim to look at the top one million (or thereabouts) websites as
ranked by Alexa.  These are going to be popular, public, relatively
high-traffic sites which is not ColdFusion's bread and butter.

ColdFusion has a huge market behind the firewall in corporate and
government intranets and other places that these kinds of surveys
can't report on.  PHP will usually dominate these kinds of surveys
because of popular open source tools that can be deployed by less
technical users, such as forums, content management systems, and
blogging tools such as WordPress.  Contrary to reports like this,
ColdFusion is alive and well in the enterprise.  It's less popular for
public websites than other languages, but that doesn't concern me in
the least.


-Justin Scott

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:349106
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


Re: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Claude Schnéegans

 All credibility is lost with that statement.

No, there used to be a server side Javascript language, during the good times 
of Netscape.
This language was a PITA, but it did exist.

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:349107
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


Re: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Dave Watts

 Please correct me if I am wrong. But doesn't Javascript run Client
 side? Is there a way to make Javascript run on the server and not on
 the client? If so, that would solve some issues I've been having. :)

JavaScript can run anywhere there's a JavaScript interpreter. In the
context of a CF web application, the only place JavaScript can run is
the client, because CF is doing the server-side stuff. But when
JavaScript first came out (LiveScript) there was a server-side
interpreter for it. You can run JS batch files in Windows. JS is used
in Flex applications, where it's called ActionScript.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/

Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:349108
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


RE: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Robert Harrison

 ColdFusion has a huge market behind the firewall in corporate and 
 government intranets and other places that these kinds of surveys can't 
 report on

That may be true. Does anyone know of solid statistics on CF market share of 
CMS driven sites. Any stats that look more promising than this?

Robert B. Harrison
Director of Interactive Services
Austin  Williams
125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 
Hauppauge NY 11788
P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 
F : 631.434.7022
http://www.austin-williams.com 

Great advertising can't be either/or.  It must be .

Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged
http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:349109
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


Re: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread John M Bliss

 Any stats that look more promising than this?

http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/pdfs/adobecoldfusionevangelismkit.pdf


On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Robert Harrison 
rob...@austin-williams.com wrote:


  ColdFusion has a huge market behind the firewall in corporate and
 government intranets and other places that these kinds of surveys can't
 report on

 That may be true. Does anyone know of solid statistics on CF market share
 of CMS driven sites. Any stats that look more promising than this?

 Robert B. Harrison
 Director of Interactive Services
 Austin  Williams
 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100
 Hauppauge NY 11788
 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119
 F : 631.434.7022
 http://www.austin-williams.com

 Great advertising can't be either/or.  It must be .

 Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged
 http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged

 

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:349110
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


Re: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Wil Genovese

Plus, many sites don't even have a way to show that ColdFusion (or any other 
language) is being used.   

Politico for example is a HUGE ColdFusion powered site that generates dynamic 
content with CF and builds HTML files. 
The United Nations websites does the same with ColdFusion. 
There are a ton of Government sites using ColdFusion  - Does Alexa even rank 
Government sites?

Google this  filetype:cfm  
But this still only finds actual .cfm files and not any site that uses SES 
URL's.  


Wil Genovese
Sr. Web Application Developer/
Systems Administrator
CF Webtools
www.cfwebtools.com

wilg...@trunkful.com
www.trunkful.com

On Dec 14, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Justin Scott wrote:

 
 Very disappointing statistics for ColdFusion market penetration.
 http://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/programming_language/all
 
 I'm actually surprised it's as high as it is given their methodology.
 They claim to look at the top one million (or thereabouts) websites as
 ranked by Alexa.  These are going to be popular, public, relatively
 high-traffic sites which is not ColdFusion's bread and butter.
 
 ColdFusion has a huge market behind the firewall in corporate and
 government intranets and other places that these kinds of surveys
 can't report on.  PHP will usually dominate these kinds of surveys
 because of popular open source tools that can be deployed by less
 technical users, such as forums, content management systems, and
 blogging tools such as WordPress.  Contrary to reports like this,
 ColdFusion is alive and well in the enterprise.  It's less popular for
 public websites than other languages, but that doesn't concern me in
 the least.
 
 
 -Justin Scott
 
 

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:349111
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


Re: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Kelly Matthews

Yep several sites I rebuilt I use HTML files to process CF as well so they 
wouldn't lose their search engine positions etc. 

Kelly Matthews
Sr. Web Developer
CF Webtools
www.cfwebtools.com

On Dec 14, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Wil Genovese wrote:

 
 Plus, many sites don't even have a way to show that ColdFusion (or any other 
 language) is being used.   
 
 Politico for example is a HUGE ColdFusion powered site that generates dynamic 
 content with CF and builds HTML files. 
 The United Nations websites does the same with ColdFusion. 
 There are a ton of Government sites using ColdFusion  - Does Alexa even rank 
 Government sites?
 
 Google this  filetype:cfm  
 But this still only finds actual .cfm files and not any site that uses SES 
 URL's.  
 
 
 Wil Genovese
 Sr. Web Application Developer/
 Systems Administrator
 CF Webtools
 www.cfwebtools.com
 
 wilg...@trunkful.com
 www.trunkful.com
 
 On Dec 14, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Justin Scott wrote:
 
 
 Very disappointing statistics for ColdFusion market penetration.
 http://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/programming_language/all
 
 I'm actually surprised it's as high as it is given their methodology.
 They claim to look at the top one million (or thereabouts) websites as
 ranked by Alexa.  These are going to be popular, public, relatively
 high-traffic sites which is not ColdFusion's bread and butter.
 
 ColdFusion has a huge market behind the firewall in corporate and
 government intranets and other places that these kinds of surveys
 can't report on.  PHP will usually dominate these kinds of surveys
 because of popular open source tools that can be deployed by less
 technical users, such as forums, content management systems, and
 blogging tools such as WordPress.  Contrary to reports like this,
 ColdFusion is alive and well in the enterprise.  It's less popular for
 public websites than other languages, but that doesn't concern me in
 the least.
 
 
 -Justin Scott
 
 
 
 

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:349112
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


Re: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Cameron Childress

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Robert Harrison 
rob...@austin-williams.com wrote:

 Very disappointing statistics for ColdFusion market penetration.


This is but a grain of sand on the beach of web development.  Look at the
beach, not the individual grains of sand.

-Cameron

-- 
Cameron Childress
--
p:   678.637.5072
im: cameroncf
facebook http://www.facebook.com/cameroncf |
twitterhttp://twitter.com/cameronc |
google+ https://profiles.google.com/u/0/117829379451708140985


~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:349113
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


Re: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Casey Dougall

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.comwrote:

 This is but a grain of sand on the beach of web development.  Look at the
 beach, not the individual grains of sand.


Exactly.

Almost 150,000,000 active websites on the interwebs. I've yet to run out of
ColdFusion work, and anyone I know doing php seems to just be hacking up
wordpress and drupal so no big loss there :-)


~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:349114
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


Re: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Raymond Camden

*checks watch*
Yep, about time for another CF is dead thread.
*goes back to work*

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Casey Dougall
ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com wrote:

 On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.comwrote:

 This is but a grain of sand on the beach of web development.  Look at the
 beach, not the individual grains of sand.


 Exactly.

 Almost 150,000,000 active websites on the interwebs. I've yet to run out of
 ColdFusion work, and anyone I know doing php seems to just be hacking up
 wordpress and drupal so no big loss there :-)


 

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:349115
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


Re: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Judah McAuley

Hey, I just heard Ray say that CF is dead! OMG, it must be true,
spread the word!!!

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.com wrote:

 *checks watch*
 Yep, about time for another CF is dead thread.
 *goes back to work*


~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:349118
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


Re: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Casey Dougall

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.comwrote:

 Hey, I just heard Ray say that CF is dead! OMG, it must be true,
 spread the word!!!


Adobe could at least include it in the drop down menu ;-)


~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:349119
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


Re: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Russ Michaels

hacking up wordpress, Joomla and drupal sites is really all you need in the
PHP world though, these apps do almost everything most folks need, why pay
$thousands to build something from scratch if you can get the same result
from an off the shelf open source app in a few hours, even if customisation
is required, it is still less time/cost and requires less skills as you can
even automate the install and setup using Fantasico or Web Platform
Installer.
As much as I love CF, if I want to get something up quick, I will use one
of those PHP apps most of time, Mura is great, but it still requires a lot
more work and is lacking all the plugins and templates that the PHP
solutions have.
ColdFusion's advantage is most definitely in the enterprise, intranet,
bespoke market.


On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.comwrote:


 *checks watch*
 Yep, about time for another CF is dead thread.
 *goes back to work*

 On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Casey Dougall
 ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com wrote:
 
  On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  This is but a grain of sand on the beach of web development.  Look at
 the
  beach, not the individual grains of sand.
 
 
  Exactly.
 
  Almost 150,000,000 active websites on the interwebs. I've yet to run out
 of
  ColdFusion work, and anyone I know doing php seems to just be hacking up
  wordpress and drupal so no big loss there :-)
 
 
 

 

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:349120
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


Re: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Mark Mandel

So, what are you going to do to promote ColdFusion more?

No point in complaining about the problem, unless you are going to propose
and implement some solutions :)

Mark

On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:02 AM, Robert Harrison rob...@austin-williams.com
 wrote:


 Very disappointing statistics for ColdFusion market penetration.

 http://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/programming_language/all

 Robert B. Harrison
 Director of Interactive Services
 Austin  Williams
 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100
 Hauppauge NY 11788
 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119
 F : 631.434.7022
 http://www.austin-williams.com

 Great advertising can't be either/or.  It must be .

 Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged
 http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged

 

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:349153
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


Re: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Roger Austin

On 12/14/2011 12:39 PM, Raymond Camden wrote:

 *checks watch*
 Yep, about time for another CF is dead thread.
 *goes back to work*

OMG Adobe has made Ray the PR guy since he was the noob.
OMG CF is doomed. :)
-- 
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/8/a4/60
Twitter:  http://twitter.com/RogerTheGeek
Google+:  https://plus.google.com/117357905892731200369

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:349154
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


Re: Very disappointing statis

2011-12-14 Thread Bryan Stevenson

Amen Mark!

as I tell my staff.come to me with solutionsnot problems

On Thu, 2011-12-15 at 09:34 +1100, Mark Mandel wrote:

 So, what are you going to do to promote ColdFusion more?
 
 No point in complaining about the problem, unless you are going to propose
 and implement some solutions :)
 
 Mark
 
 On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:02 AM, Robert Harrison rob...@austin-williams.com
  wrote:
 
 
  Very disappointing statistics for ColdFusion market penetration.
 
  http://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/programming_language/all
 
  Robert B. Harrison
  Director of Interactive Services
  Austin  Williams
  125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100
  Hauppauge NY 11788
  P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119
  F : 631.434.7022
  http://www.austin-williams.com
 
  Great advertising can't be either/or.  It must be .
 
  Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged
  http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged
 
  
 
 

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:349155
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm