Re: [CinCV] CinCV 2.2 testing fortnight - call for volunteers
It did not take too long It seems that 2.2 and official git 2.15 are crashing on importing DNX_HD files. More if needed, but for now I have to leave. Cheers E signal_entry: got SIGSEGV my pid=1518 execution table size=16: mwindowgui.C: create_objects: 257 mwindowgui.C: create_objects: 261 mwindowgui.C: create_objects: 268 mwindowgui.C: create_objects: 271 mwindow.C: create_objects: 1338 mwindow.C: create_objects: 1347 mwindow.C: create_objects: 1353 mwindow.C: create_objects: 1357 mwindow.C: create_objects: 1359 mwindow.C: create_objects: 1361 mwindow.C: create_objects: 1363 mwindow.C: create_objects: 1365 mwindow.C: create_objects: 1372 mwindow.C: create_objects: 1375 mwindow.C: load_filenames: 829 mwindow.C: load_filenames: 887 signal_entry: lock table size=8 0x7f58fc1d0950 BC_WindowBase::event_condition BC_WindowBase::get_event 0x7f58fc30f170 MainIndexes::input_lock MainIndexes::run 1 0x1bb9330 RotateEngine::input_lock RotateEngine::run 0x1bd3490 RotateEngine::input_lock RotateEngine::run 0x7f58fc3974a0 ResourceThread::draw_lock ResourceThread::run 0x7f58fc30fd60 Cinelerra: Program main * 0x7f58fc23dfa0 TransportQue::output_lock PlaybackEngine::run 0x7f58fc30e6e0 TransportQue::output_lock PlaybackEngine::run BC_Signals::dump_buffers: buffer table size=0 BC_Signals::delete_temps: deleting 0 temp files SigHandler::signal_handler total files=0 Aborted ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCV] The new CinelerraCV repo - guidelines
Hi! Thank you Edouard and all users that are testing CinelerraCV. You might have noticed that the source for testing is available from a new repository. Yes, eventually the official unofficial-cinelerra repo has arrived!! :-) The CinelerraCV repository will store the stable code of our beloved application. Version 2.2 will inaugurate the repo. Get ready with a bottle of sparkling wine for the toast. The CinelerraCV repo is not a personal repo; it is maintained by the community. This is a change that has consequences on the repo maintenance and on the community approach to contribution. This topic was much discussed during the last dev meetings. We ended up with some Guidelines, to better organize the community contribution to development. I've just uploaded the document to the website. It's meant to be a guide. It is not carved on rock. Please, if you wish to contribute code read it carefully. http://cinelerra.org/main_repo.php Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] The new CinelerraCV repo - guidelines
How Great!! Go Cinelerra! ; ) Best regards, Rafael Diniz Hi! Thank you Edouard and all users that are testing CinelerraCV. You might have noticed that the source for testing is available from a new repository. Yes, eventually the official unofficial-cinelerra repo has arrived!! :-) The CinelerraCV repository will store the stable code of our beloved application. Version 2.2 will inaugurate the repo. Get ready with a bottle of sparkling wine for the toast. The CinelerraCV repo is not a personal repo; it is maintained by the community. This is a change that has consequences on the repo maintenance and on the community approach to contribution. This topic was much discussed during the last dev meetings. We ended up with some Guidelines, to better organize the community contribution to development. I've just uploaded the document to the website. It's meant to be a guide. It is not carved on rock. Please, if you wish to contribute code read it carefully. http://cinelerra.org/main_repo.php Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] CinCV 2.2 testing fortnight - call for volunteers
I'm a bit confused, why release an new release of Cinelerra with a version of ffmpeg that's 3 or 4 releases out of date? Version 0.4.9 is so far away from the current 0.8.2 that most of the ffmpeg functions no longer exist. I will build a new patch to work with 0.8.x but a decision needs to be made to either abandon or upgrade the internal ffmpeg because the amount of changes make supporting both obsolete and current versions impractical. Regards, Paul On Sun, 2011-09-18 at 14:13 +0200, Raffaella Traniello wrote: Hi! Last dev meetings focussed on the imminent new release of CinelerraCV: version 2.2, planned for October 2. The new version will be compilable also on newer kernels and will include the famous Bezier patch by Herman Vosseler (ichthyo). Einar is finishing working on improved default settings and standard presets. For details see the milestone tickets in Trac: http://bugs.cinelerra.org/query?group=statusmilestone=Release+of+2.2 Please, help CinelerraCV by testing her! 2 weeks left to the release. We ask all friends of CinelerraCV (devs and users) to test the changes and report bugs related to those changes. Please, report back to this mailing list. To test compilation on new kernels and the Bezier patch: http://git.cinelerra.org/gitweb?p=CinelerraCV.git;a=snapshot;h=77f464b5dafd2c441ccc55282a9489250b83306f;sf=tgz Download the source from the above link and compile as usual. (Grandmas using Ubuntu might find useful compilation instructions at: http://www.g-raffa.eu/Cinelerra/HOWTO/compilation.html ) For a detailed description of the changes see the commit messages of the last commits of the /construction_site brach: http://git.cinelerra.org/gitweb?p=CinelerraCV.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/construction_site To test improved default settings and standard presets: Please wait. The source will be available shortly. Thank you! Ciao Raffaella PS: Remember: only 2 weeks left! It might be your last opportunity! :-) ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] CinCV 2.2 testing fortnight - call for volunteers
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:43:59 -0400 Paul Taggart ptagg...@cinci.rr.com wrote: I'm a bit confused, why release an new release of Cinelerra with a version of ffmpeg that's 3 or 4 releases out of date? Version 0.4.9 is so far away from the current 0.8.2 that most of the ffmpeg functions no longer exist. I will build a new patch to work with 0.8.x but a decision needs to be made to either abandon or upgrade the internal ffmpeg because the amount of changes make supporting both obsolete and current versions impractical. Whenever I try Cinelerra using external ffmpeg on my x86_64 machine, rendered mpeg (via yuv stream) is totally garbled. However, it works OK with internal ffmpeg. I already posted about (see archives) considering one specific patch has created the problem. Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [CinCV] CinCV 2.2 testing fortnight - call for volunteers
Gour, I normally use the yuv stream piped to ffmpeg for video. The biggest problem I have is that the default ffmpeg options included on the render sub-window no longer exist (I can send you the options that work for me). Audio, on the other hand is a real mess because I need to use 5.1 AC3 (Dolby Digital Surround Sound). My first priority is to get fileac3.C updated to properly use the current versions of libavcodec including options for different sample formats (U8, S16, S32, float, and double) and channel layouts(libavutil supports 16 different layouts). Once I get fileac3.C functioning as I want it, I will send the updates to this mailing list and then see if I can build a direct rendering methodology using ffmpeg, the current versions function calls provide much better functionality and flexibility than what's bundled with Cinelerra. Until I submit the upgrades, there are patches available for 2.1.5 to work with current versions of ffmpeg without any new functionality. I will verify that they work with 2.2 and submit an updated patch. Regards, Paul On Mon, 2011-09-19 at 21:23 +0200, Gour-Gadadhara Dasa wrote: On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:43:59 -0400 Paul Taggart ptagg...@cinci.rr.com wrote: I'm a bit confused, why release an new release of Cinelerra with a version of ffmpeg that's 3 or 4 releases out of date? Version 0.4.9 is so far away from the current 0.8.2 that most of the ffmpeg functions no longer exist. I will build a new patch to work with 0.8.x but a decision needs to be made to either abandon or upgrade the internal ffmpeg because the amount of changes make supporting both obsolete and current versions impractical. Whenever I try Cinelerra using external ffmpeg on my x86_64 machine, rendered mpeg (via yuv stream) is totally garbled. However, it works OK with internal ffmpeg. I already posted about (see archives) considering one specific patch has created the problem. Sincerely, Gour
Re: [CinCV] CinCV 2.2 testing fortnight - call for volunteers
Hi. On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Paul Taggart ptagg...@cinci.rr.com wrote: I'm a bit confused, why release an new release of Cinelerra with a version of ffmpeg that's 3 or 4 releases out of date? Version 0.4.9 is so far away from the current 0.8.2 that most of the ffmpeg functions no longer exist. I will build a new patch to work with 0.8.x but a decision needs to be made to either abandon or upgrade the internal ffmpeg because the amount of changes make supporting both obsolete and current versions impractical. Cinelerra must support multiple versions of ffmpeg at least through conditional compiling. FFmpeg is 'solution to record, convert and stream audio and video' (from homepage). It is not optimized for editing. It is possible with certain amount of work to use it in an editor. I want an answer to question what is better for cinelerra in newer versions of ffmpeg. Cinelerra does not use very much of ffmpeg - do the improvements in ffmpeg affect cinelerra? I have never been a great fan of upgrading to newer version. Recently I had a major crash at work just because of upgrade. I have impression that ffmpeg is not very good in frame exact seeking and this is not the goal of ffmpeg. Cinelerra needs exact seeking. If you have time to look at the cinelerra-ffmpeg relationships, please do it Einar Einar ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] CinCV 2.2 testing fortnight - call for volunteers
It's true. Now Cinelerra can not open many files, audio and video properly. If used cinelerra ffmpeg could open new files like Webm or videos from my camera, that cinelerra can not play the audio (uncompressed) I do not know because they do not use external ffmpeg, as does mlt. But I think it would be a good thing. Yosepkey 2011/9/19 Paul Taggart ptagg...@cinci.rr.com ** Gour, I normally use the yuv stream piped to ffmpeg for video. The biggest problem I have is that the default ffmpeg options included on the render sub-window no longer exist (I can send you the options that work for me). Audio, on the other hand is a real mess because I need to use 5.1 AC3 (Dolby Digital Surround Sound). My first priority is to get fileac3.C updated to properly use the current versions of libavcodec including options for different sample formats (U8, S16, S32, float, and double) and channel layouts(libavutil supports 16 different layouts). Once I get fileac3.C functioning as I want it, I will send the updates to this mailing list and then see if I can build a direct rendering methodology using ffmpeg, the current versions function calls provide much better functionality and flexibility than what's bundled with Cinelerra. Until I submit the upgrades, there are patches available for 2.1.5 to work with current versions of ffmpeg without any new functionality. I will verify that they work with 2.2 and submit an updated patch. Regards, Paul On Mon, 2011-09-19 at 21:23 +0200, Gour-Gadadhara Dasa wrote: On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:43:59 -0400 Paul Taggart ptagg...@cinci.rr.com wrote: I'm a bit confused, why release an new release of Cinelerra with a version of ffmpeg that's 3 or 4 releases out of date? Version 0.4.9 is so far away from the current 0.8.2 that most of the ffmpeg functions no longer exist. I will build a new patch to work with 0.8.x but a decision needs to be made to either abandon or upgrade the internal ffmpeg because the amount of changes make supporting both obsolete and current versions impractical. Whenever I try Cinelerra using external ffmpeg on my x86_64 machine, rendered mpeg (via yuv stream) is totally garbled. However, it works OK with internal ffmpeg. I already posted about (see archives) considering one specific patch has created the problem. Sincerely, Gour
Re: [CinCV] CinCV 2.2 testing fortnight - call for volunteers
Einar, I'm not suggesting changing the editing engine. Ffmpeg is a good tool for transcoding and rendering audio and video (especially for DVD or Bluray). Transcode and Mjpegtools have not kept up with technology. All the editing functionality in the world is useless if you can't create a finished product. The current ffmpeg interface is so far out of date that it doesn't allow 1/10th of ffmeg's current functionality forcing extra steps in rendering, often times with loss of audio or video quality. Some functions that would be nice to have are: Pre-defined surround sound audio configs (the angle configuration make no sense for the lfe channel (an lfe plugin would also be nice)) and simultaneous audio and video rendering. Regards, Paul On Mon, 2011-09-19 at 23:32 +0300, Einar Rünkaru wrote: Hi. On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Paul Taggart ptagg...@cinci.rr.com wrote: I'm a bit confused, why release an new release of Cinelerra with a version of ffmpeg that's 3 or 4 releases out of date? Version 0.4.9 is so far away from the current 0.8.2 that most of the ffmpeg functions no longer exist. I will build a new patch to work with 0.8.x but a decision needs to be made to either abandon or upgrade the internal ffmpeg because the amount of changes make supporting both obsolete and current versions impractical. Cinelerra must support multiple versions of ffmpeg at least through conditional compiling. FFmpeg is 'solution to record, convert and stream audio and video' (from homepage). It is not optimized for editing. It is possible with certain amount of work to use it in an editor. I want an answer to question what is better for cinelerra in newer versions of ffmpeg. Cinelerra does not use very much of ffmpeg - do the improvements in ffmpeg affect cinelerra? I have never been a great fan of upgrading to newer version. Recently I had a major crash at work just because of upgrade. I have impression that ffmpeg is not very good in frame exact seeking and this is not the goal of ffmpeg. Cinelerra needs exact seeking. If you have time to look at the cinelerra-ffmpeg relationships, please do it Einar Einar
Re: [CinCV] CinCV 2.2 testing fortnight - call for volunteers
Gosh yes . On 09/20/2011 10:46 AM, Paul Taggart wrote: Some functions that would be nice to have are: Pre-defined surround sound audio configs (the angle configuration make no sense for the lfe channel (an lfe plugin would also be nice)) and simultaneous audio and video rendering. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
