Pinging a Multicast address [7:65130]

2003-03-12 Thread John Tafasi
Hi group,

I practicing multicast and I am trying to get the router below to send a
continuous multicast stream. I receive response to only the first multicast
packet. Can some one give me a solution for this?

Thanks

John Tafasi

r1#ping
Protocol [ip]:
Target IP address: 225.2.2.2
Repeat count [1]: 100
Datagram size [100]:
Timeout in seconds [2]:
Extended commands [n]:
Sweep range of sizes [n]:
Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 100, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 225.2.2.2, timeout is 2 seconds:

Reply to request 0 from 150.50.7.7, 440 ms..




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VPN: difference between hash / group/encryp ? [7:65131]

2003-03-12 Thread Richard Campbell
Hi.. Group

When I want to configured VPN between PIX, I need to configured the 
authentication , encryption, hash, group

Do u know what is the difference them ?  especially among hash, group, 
encryption? Can I don't specify any of them??

Thanks
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RE: Survived CCDP recertification! [7:65115]

2003-03-12 Thread Andrew Larkins
congrats!.
I have just over a year left for mine!

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good stuff Priscilla :-)

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Subject: Survived CCDP recertification! [7:65115]


I just took the CCDP Recertification exam, exam number 640-529. I got an
878. You need 768 to pass. There were 115 questions and I had extra time.
You get 2 hours.

The test wasn't too bad. The copyright on the test is 2000. That will give
you a clue regarding what's on there.

The test was clearly broken up into 4 sections: remote access, CID, routing,
and switching.

Remote access was pretty easy because I studied for it. 

CID still had the ancient technologies and bizarre wording we have come to
know and love. :-)

Routing was the hardest for me, not because it included any routing
protocols recently added to other tests, but because the questions were
tough. But at least they were well written. I'll have to study OSPF
summarization better for next time (CCNP recert coming up too.)

The switching questions ranged from outrageously easy to tough. I was
shocked at how badly written they were. The author of the switching test
doesn't seem to be a native English speaker. There were missing articles,
and verbs that didn't agree with the subject, and other clues that the
writer wasn't a native English speaker. That's OK, but doesn't Cisco have
editors? Also some of the right (I think!) answers had the logic backwards.
Perhaps if you're thinking in another language and translating, that could
happen.

But I survived and am still a proud CCDP!

Priscilla




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RE: Pinging a Multicast address [7:65132]

2003-03-12 Thread Brian Dennis
John,
You can look into using Multicast Routing Monitor (MRM). Here is a
working config.

R5
ip mrm manager myTest
 manager Ethernet 0/0 group 226.2.3.4
 senders 1
 receivers 2 sender-list 1
!
access-list 1 permit 161.1.45.4
access-list 2 permit 161.1.127.1

R4
interface Ethernet0/0
 ip address 161.1.45.4 255.255.255.0
 ip mrm test-sender

R1
interface FastEthernet0/0
 ip address 161.1.127.1 255.255.255.252
 ip mrm test-receiver

R5
mrm myTest start

Basically you configure a manager, multicast test sender, and multicast
test receiver. In this case R5 is the manager. R4 is the multicast
sender and R1 is the multicast receiver. Look at some of the show ip
mrm commands to see the results.

This can also be used in the real world to monitor a real multicast
stream. The config is essentially the same except the multicast test
sender isn't needed.

Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (RS/ISP Dial/Security) CCSI# 98640
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Subject: Pinging a Multicast address

Hi group,

I practicing multicast and I am trying to get the router below to send a
continuous multicast stream. I receive response to only the first
multicast
packet. Can some one give me a solution for this?

Thanks

John Tafasi

r1#ping
Protocol [ip]:
Target IP address: 225.2.2.2
Repeat count [1]: 100
Datagram size [100]:
Timeout in seconds [2]:
Extended commands [n]:
Sweep range of sizes [n]:
Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 100, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 225.2.2.2, timeout is 2 seconds:

Reply to request 0 from 150.50.7.7, 440 ms..




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RE: VPN: difference between hash / group/encryp ? [7:65131]

2003-03-12 Thread Martin J.
Hash is needed for Data Integrity.
Two possibilities: HMAC-MD5 or HMAC-SHA-1
A sent the message and the shared secret key trough the Hash-Algorithm. Hash
is appended at the message.
B recomputes the Hash with the message and the shared secret key. Hashs are
compared. If matching, integrity of message is guaranteed.

Group Password within VPN ist the preshared key. used for authentication.

Encryption guarantees the confidentiality of the message.

hope this helps you

Martin


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RE: Good book for CCIE Written Prep [7:65104]

2003-03-12 Thread Troy Leliard
I think you should be asking good books?  :)  I am currently using Bruces
Caslows, Routing and Switching, New Cisco Press CCIE book, and the Cisco
Press CCIE - Practical Book.

I think the best way to tackle the big one is to start a file yourself, an
in it have a chapter for each topic that appears on the blueprint,
methodically go through each topic and research if from a number of sources
(books, white papers, RFC's) etc, Obviously, topics where you are stronger
needs less detail. And of course back it all up with hands on.  Even for the
written ecam, memory retention, I find is always better when I have worked
through a lab or section of a lab.

The idea being that you will cover everything off, and realise that the
area's you dont like, you need to put in a little but more work.  At the end
of it and, when you get the email saying congrats, you're ccie is  you
can then sell you file and get it published :) hehehe, then future ccie
wannabies will be asking,.what is s good bookm, and you can recommend your
own. :)

Good luck studying!


Skarphedinsson Arni V. wrote:
 
 Can anyone recomend a good book for CCIE Written preperation ?


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RE: Silly EIGRP question [7:64259]

2003-03-12 Thread Mustafa Furat
resending.
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From: Mustafa Furat 
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 7:21 PM
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Subject: RE: Silly EIGRP question [7:64259]


hi...

INET#sh version
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3640-IS-M), Version 12.0(7)T,  RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc2)
Copyright (c) 1986-1999 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Wed 08-Dec-99 01:53 by phanguye
Image text-base: 0x600088F0, data-base: 0x60E02000
.



INET(config)#router eigrp 10
INET(config-router)#eigrp ?
  log-neighbor-changes   Enable/Disable IP-EIGRP neighbor logging
  log-neighbor-warnings  Enable/Disable IP-EIGRP neighbor warnings
  stub   Set IP-EIGRP as stubed router





I still am not sure if it is for that purpose... but this is how it can
be configured...

Mustafa

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Subject: Re: Silly EIGRP question [7:64259]


hi,
eigrp log-neighbor-changes
eigrp log-neighbor-warnings
Regards, Amar.
Scott Roberts  a icrit dans le message de news:
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 never heard of that command...doesn't exist to my knowledge (at least
on
 12.0)

 scott

 Shyam, Sharma S (CAP, GECIS)  wrote in
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  Missed  the command
 
  show ip eigrp timers
 
  rgds
 
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   Michael
  
   I am not much experiencd but can we use  for this.
  
   Rgds
   Sky
  
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Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
 A protocol analyzer? ;-) And one that does a decent job with
 EIGRP. A lot of them don't. I think EtherPeek does in its
 latest software. Network Associates does a good job with
EIGRP.
   
I'll span a the port connecting out WAN router to the core
switch
(I'm
  99%
sure we're getting hit with updates from the WAN).  We use NA,
but
  haven't
had the need to use it for EIGRP..
   
 You can turn the router into a troubleshooting tool with the
 various debug commands, of course. There's quite a few for
 EIGRP and at least one would give you the info that you seek,
 (probably debug eigrp packet). But, you didn't want to use
 debugging, for good reason probably.
   
Yeah we don't take debugging on the core routers/switches to
 easily
  =)
Ever since a new guy decided to debug EIGRP in an EIGRP storm
without
 a
  no
logging console.
   
Thanks!
Mike




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What does this config mean? [7:65137]

2003-03-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Greetings,
I inherited a Cisco 2600 from a previous network admin. There is the
following lines in my config, what do they mean:
ip nat inside source static 196.1.1.195 196.3.3.74
ip nat outside source static 196.3.3.74 196.1.1.195

IP 196.3.3.74 is the serial int on the outside (ISP side) and
196.1.1.195 is one of our servers. I have an idea that they NAT the
serial int of the 2600 to that of the server but why is there two line,
one for outside and one for inside?

Regards

Pat




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CID exam - 640-025 [7:65139]

2003-03-12 Thread Adam Grimes (adgrimes)
Hi all,

Ive got my CID exam booked in a few weeks time... The final one I need
for my CCDP... I did all the other exams in the middle of 2001 for my
CCNPso havebeen out of the routine of studying for quite some time...
Has anybody out there taken it recently? if so, any tips?
Im working my way through the Cisco Press - CID book. Any other good
study material?

Many thanks

Adam

Adam Grimes

IT Engineer - CCNP/CCDA
IT Transport DE - LAN Team - UK
Cisco Systems




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RE: PRI [7:64999]

2003-03-12 Thread John Botha
My opinion of in-band and out-of-band:

In-band is when channel control signals are mixed with normal data i.e.
dialup.
Out-of-band is when a separate channel is used for link control information,
i.e.  ISDN D-channel.

Regards,

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Adding Value to IT

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From:   Karen E Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   12 March 2003 07:49
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: PRI [7:64999]

My take on it is... its out-of-band. It's just multiple logical channels
multiplexed onto a single physical channel. It doesn't matter that the
logical channels work together, the time slots remain dedicated to their
respective channels and the traffic doesn't mix.

Just my .02
Karen

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On 3/11/2003 at 11:37 PM Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:

So, here's a question for you all. I saw this on a practice test. Does
ISDN
use in-band or out-of-band signaling and is it different for BRI versus
PRI?

Well, it's not robbed-bit signaling, from what I understand, which I guess
means it is out-of-band? The signaling has its own channel. But the
signaling channel is bundled with the other channels in the circuit that
your order from the telco.

BRI has the 2 Bearer channels and the one D channel that enter the CPE
together on a 2-wire circuit.

With PRI, in Europe, ISDN enters the CPE on an E1 (4-wire ?) circuit. The
15th timeslot is used for signaling.

With PRI, in the U.S., ISDN enters the CPE on a T1 4-wire circuit. The 24th
timeslot is used for signaling, if you can believe the books.

What would be the Cisco answer to the question of ISDN signaling being
in-band versus out-of-band?

Thanks,

Priscilla

Jens Neelsen wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Yes, it is one D channel per PRI. An E1 has 32 timeslots of
 64kbps (=30B +1D +1timing). A T1 PRI has 24 timeslots + rest
 (=23D +1D). Timing is in the rest.
 
 You can save D channels if put more than one E1/T1 in a bundle.
 Then you need only one D channel per bundle. 
 
 So the answer is: not more than one D channel per PRI.
 
 Jens
 
 --- maine dude  wrote:
  Hi All,
  
  Quick question I hope you can help me with.
  
  How many D channels does a PRI have?
  
  I always thought it was two, but its states 1 in most places.
  
  Text taken from the CCNP remote access guide (to make it more
  confusing):
  
  there are 30 timeslots, leaving 2 timeslots for signalling and
  framing.
  Timeslot 0 is used for framing and timeslot 16 is used for
  signalling
  (counting 0-31). E1 PRI makes use of this same principle.
  Timeslot 16 is the
  D channel and timeslot 0 is used for framing information.
  Please advise.
  Regards,DJ
  
  
  
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RE: CID exam - 640-025 [7:65139]

2003-03-12 Thread ccnp ccnp2002
Hi,

I have done that exam today and passed barely. This after I failed barely
last week.

I used great books (because I like great books!).

1. Top Down Network Design - Priscilla Oppenheimer.
2. Cisco Internetwork Design - Mathew Birkner.
3. Boson Test #1 Practice Test.

These resources will take you through, but you have to read the questions
carefully, because two answers look almost alike (to the
uninitiated!)that is when I realized the difficulty of this exam for
someone without networking experience.


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5-4-3 rule [7:65140]

2003-03-12 Thread Tiongster
Hi to all pros,
 
I would like to ask a very simple which is also very confusing. If I
connected three hubs together have I break a 5-4-3 rule? But I don't
think I have break the 5-4-3 rule because I believe the wiring of the
hub is a bus circuit which is a segment and with three hubs connected
together it consist of three segments. I hope someone will correct me if
I'm wrong as I have been debating with my peers for past few days. My
peers insisted four hubs connected is the correct one which is the
maximum network of the 5-4-3 rule. Aren't four hubs consist of four
segments which have broke the 5-4-3 rule? Thanks in advance. 
 
Chiam Chin Tiong CCNA
ITE Dover student
ICQ 153179194 

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bandwith reservation vith cef [7:65142]

2003-03-12 Thread Burak Sahin
RSVP cannot be configured with VIP-distributed Cisco Express Forwarding
(dCEF).

Is there any bandwith reservation protocol that can be configured with cef?

Thanks

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RE: What does this config mean? [7:65137]

2003-03-12 Thread Paul Elston
Hi,

Can't answer as to why the ip nat outside... statement is used but I can say
what will be occurring with translation.

The ip nat outside will translate the source address of packets travelling
from the outside to the inside.  Here is a link to Cisco's website
documenting the process
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk648/tk361/technologies_configuration_example09186a0080093f2f.shtml

The ip nat inside will translate the destination address of packets
travelling from the outside to the inside.

The question then appears to be do you have an application running that
would require the translation of the source address of packets travelling
from the outside to the inside or did the previous person not entirely
understand the Cisco NAT commands?

Hope this helps,
Paul


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bandwith reservation with cef [7:65144]

2003-03-12 Thread Burak Sahin
RSVP cannot be configured with VIP-distributed Cisco Express Forwarding
(dCEF).

Is there any bandwith reservation protocol that can be configured with cef?

Thanks

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RE: CID exam - 640-025 [7:65139]

2003-03-12 Thread Skarphedinsson Arni V.
I passed it three weeks ago, no to hard

I uesd the Top Down Network Design book, it´s a great book, but I actuly
just got through half of it before the exam.

it´s not that hard, and I took the CCDA, the old version after the CID and i
would say the cid is a little harder, and not as boring i.e. does not
contain case study´s like the ccda.




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Re: Bandwidth calculations [7:65008]

2003-03-12 Thread Amar KHELIFI
sorry i don't agree.
check the bandwidth calculator on the net, u will see that i was correct.
+ for the K and k and B and b, it is so obvious that an explanation is not
necessary...
thanx for letting my messages show up normally and then respond to
them;


s vermill  a icrit dans le message de news:
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 I should also have mentioned that the B is typically capitalized along
 side the K when dealing with kilobytes (KB) and the b is typically not
 capitalized when dealing with kilobits (kbps).  That's probably at least,
if
 not more, significant than the K/k capitalization (if, in fact, any of
it
 is significant).  I mention it because it seems to cause so much
confusion.
 You won't see it around here much, but at some other forums one of the
chief
 complaints relates to achieving only 1/8th the expected download rate.
 What's happening, of course, is that the download is being measured in
 KB/sec while the connection is rated in kbits/sec.  I'll shut up now...


 s vermill wrote:
 
  Amar KHELIFI wrote:
  
   since
   1byte=8bits
   and
   1Kbits=1024bits
   then
32kbps=32768bps=4096bytes
   there is no formula.
 
  Amar KHELIFI,
 
  1kbits does not = 1024bits and 32kbps does not = 32768bps.
  1kbps = 1,000bps  32kbps = 32000bps.  k simply means 1,000.
  The whole idea of 1KB (KiloByte) = 1024 bits has to do with
  binary math and the fact that computers deal in bytes vs.
  bits.  2^10 = 1024, which is divisibly by 8 (whereas 1,000
  would not be).  It would be very inconvenient for a computer to
  have to deal with information blocks that are not divisible by
  8.  Modern communications systems are not byte-aligned at all
  and deal strictly in bits.  For example, a DS0 is 64kbps.
  That's 64,000bps.
 
  As a side note, and I'm not sure that there's any official
  convention to go along with this, in general, a KiloByte is
  abbreviated KB, with a capital K.  kilobits per second is
  generally abbreviated kbps, with a lower-case k.  Thus, when
  you see a capital K, it's safe to assume 1024 is being implied,
  whereas when you see a lower-case k, it's safe to assume 1,000
  is being implied.
 
  Regards,
 
  Scott
 
 
 
  
   Robert Perez  a icrit dans le
   message de
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Anyone know how the conversion techniques for converting
   bits, bytes,
kilobits, etc, to calculate bandwidth usages?




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RE: Survived CCDP recertification! [7:65115]

2003-03-12 Thread Lauren Child
Thanks and congrats!

I have both CCNP and CCDP recerts coming up in the next couple of months.  

Im pretty OK on most things I think (fingers crossed).  I bought the BSCI
Exam certification guide to go through the new bits just in case (and to
revise OSPF and EIGRP), and got the trial InformIT subscription on the
ciscopress website so I could run through the Switching and Remote Access
books quickly and check that there wasnt anything I was majorly rusty on
(for free :)

Its good to know its doable...  Looking back at the old books and notes its
pretty daunting seeing how much info is there.

Thanks :)

TTFN
Lauren



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RE: 10 half or 100 full [7:64931]

2003-03-12 Thread Lauren Child
Has anyone had this problem on a piece of Cisco kit that wasnt a 2950, and
if so was it CatOS or IOS.  Im wondering if its an IOS bug or that model
switch rather than a generic problem.

It would be interesting to see the behavior of a 6500 running CatOS and IOS
and see if the behavior is the same.

Indeed Im sure Ive had a 6500 (running CatOS) set itself back to auto when
it detected that there was a mismatch (while displaying error messages to
let me know :)

Bare in mind that IOS on switches is in a bit of a state of flux given the
relatively recent ditching of CatOS.

TTFN
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RE: Survived CCDP recertification! [7:65115]

2003-03-12 Thread Joseph R. Taylor
Good Morning Priscilla,
   Congratulations.
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sniffer in Wan interface [7:65149]

2003-03-12 Thread kuma kk
Hi Group,

Is there any way to capture the traffic on a WAN link using the sniffer 
software. I am able to capture the traffic on Ethernet connecting Router and 
Switch port by mirroring the port.

Appreciate your help

Regards,
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Re: Problem with Cicso VPN Client 3.6.3.B-k9 connectin [7:65152]

2003-03-12 Thread Robert Raver
John,

What version did you roll back to?  Was the stateful firewall Always on
checked?  Do you have an firewall, system utilities software on this
machine?

Thanks,
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Subject: RE: Problem with Cicso VPN Client 3.6.3.B-k9 connectin [7:65107]


 I rolled back the client...

 -Original Message-
 From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, 12 March 2003 3:56 AM
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 Subject: RE: Problem with Cicso VPN Client 3.6.3.B-k9 connectin [7:65038]


 David,

 I encountered a similar problem.. The VPN client I was using had an
 intrinsic firewall that was blocking all traffic apart from that belonging
 to the VPN (even when it wasn't 'live').

 To check this, right click on the VPN client icon within your system
 tray. can you see a 'Stateful Firewall' or 'Firewall' option ???

 If so, uncheck this option and try to ping your machine - it should be as
 expected now.

 If not then you have a different problem elsewhere 


 Hope this helps,

 Brian



 d tran wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  I have Cisco VPN client version 3.6.3.B-k-9 (latest version) running
  windows XP
 
  Service Pack 1.  The IP address of this window machine is
  172.16.1.200.
 
  I set up extended authentication on the Pix firewall for remote Cisco
  VPN users
 
  and everything is working great.  The outside interface of the
  firewall is 172.16.1.1
 
  with a netmask of 24
 
  The problem is that whenever the windows is rebooted, no one on the
  172.16.1.0/24
 
  network can ping this Windows XP machine.  I do have a unix machine on
  the
 
  same network (172.16.1.100).  Basically the windows XP machine can not
  do
 
  anything because it has no network connectivity.  Even the firewall
  can not ping
 
  the Windows XP machine.  The only way for this to work is for me to
  uninstall
 
  Cisco VPN Client and reboot the Windows XP box.  After the reboot,
  windows is
 
  working again.  Now under Windows XP Task Manager, I do see a process
 
  CVPND.exe running that I don't recall with previous versions of
  Cisco VPN Client.
 
  Anyone has run into this problem before?
 
  Regards,
 
  David
 
 
 
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Re: bandwith reservation with cef [7:65144]

2003-03-12 Thread Amar KHELIFI
CAR would work

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 Is there any bandwith reservation protocol that can be configured with
cef?

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Re: PRI [7:64999]

2003-03-12 Thread Amar KHELIFI
refer to the BSCN by cisco press by paquet teare for
confirmation.;

John Botha  a icrit dans le message de news:
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 My opinion of in-band and out-of-band:

 In-band is when channel control signals are mixed with normal data i.e.
 dialup.
 Out-of-band is when a separate channel is used for link control
information,
 i.e.  ISDN D-channel.

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 From: Karen E Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 12 March 2003 07:49
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: PRI [7:64999]

 My take on it is... its out-of-band. It's just multiple logical channels
 multiplexed onto a single physical channel. It doesn't matter that the
 logical channels work together, the time slots remain dedicated to their
 respective channels and the traffic doesn't mix.

 Just my .02
 Karen

 *** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***

 On 3/11/2003 at 11:37 PM Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:

 So, here's a question for you all. I saw this on a practice test. Does
 ISDN
 use in-band or out-of-band signaling and is it different for BRI
versus
 PRI?
 
 Well, it's not robbed-bit signaling, from what I understand, which I
guess
 means it is out-of-band? The signaling has its own channel. But the
 signaling channel is bundled with the other channels in the circuit that
 your order from the telco.
 
 BRI has the 2 Bearer channels and the one D channel that enter the CPE
 together on a 2-wire circuit.
 
 With PRI, in Europe, ISDN enters the CPE on an E1 (4-wire ?) circuit. The
 15th timeslot is used for signaling.
 
 With PRI, in the U.S., ISDN enters the CPE on a T1 4-wire circuit. The
24th
 timeslot is used for signaling, if you can believe the books.
 
 What would be the Cisco answer to the question of ISDN signaling being
 in-band versus out-of-band?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Priscilla
 
 Jens Neelsen wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  Yes, it is one D channel per PRI. An E1 has 32 timeslots of
  64kbps (=30B +1D +1timing). A T1 PRI has 24 timeslots + rest
  (=23D +1D). Timing is in the rest.
 
  You can save D channels if put more than one E1/T1 in a bundle.
  Then you need only one D channel per bundle.
 
  So the answer is: not more than one D channel per PRI.
 
  Jens
 
  --- maine dude  wrote:
   Hi All,
  
   Quick question I hope you can help me with.
  
   How many D channels does a PRI have?
  
   I always thought it was two, but its states 1 in most places.
  
   Text taken from the CCNP remote access guide (to make it more
   confusing):
  
   there are 30 timeslots, leaving 2 timeslots for signalling and
   framing.
   Timeslot 0 is used for framing and timeslot 16 is used for
   signalling
   (counting 0-31). E1 PRI makes use of this same principle.
   Timeslot 16 is the
   D channel and timeslot 0 is used for framing information.
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Question on Traffic on the internet [7:65148]

2003-03-12 Thread Han Chuan Alex Ang
I am wondering about this question, if my vendor told me that their server
are resided locally and I assumed that traffic out through my ATM with 2Mb
local and 256Kb International will off course travelled through the 2Mb
local leased line nad considered local traffic,

I check the IP assign from Arin whois and found that it was indeed locally
assign, however, when I did a tracert or pathping in Win2K, I found out that
it actually route through a router with ip which is assign in the US from
Arin whois then to the vendor server, does it mean traffic is actually
travelling through the international pipe from my ATM or consider local,

My question is how will ISP determine your traffic whether it is local or
international traffic , is it base on the Destination IP or base on the
Router IP it is directed to. hope someone is able to understand my question
and shed some light. thanks


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Re: ??? 2 Default Gateways ??? [7:64913]

2003-03-12 Thread Amar KHELIFI
actually in the context that has been laid out, which is 2 default static
routes with the same AD, it will load balance.;;

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  This isn't necessarily true.  It depends on your configuration and the
  source of the default routes.  Take a look at the note at the bottom
  of the
  following page for details:
 
  http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/105/default.html
 
  Regards,
  John
 
 
  Amar KHELIFI 3/10/03 9:52:27 AM 
 
  yes u can configure 2 default static routes, but it will not load
balance,
  but it will provide redundancy.
 
  Steven Aiello  a icrit dans le message de news:
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  Hello all I was just wondering if you could have 2 Default gateways,
  using static routes?  If so what would you do just enter the ip default
  route command twice?  Also will the router auto detect if one of those
  routes goes down and pass traffic only to the active interface.  I know
  you can do load balancing with routing protocols, but it seems to me
  that if you were on a stub, why would you want to run a routing
  protocol?  I'm interested in this because of a post a while back.  Any
  info would be helpful.
  
  Thanks,
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9E0-541 Exam trobules [7:65162]

2003-03-12 Thread Skarphedinsson Arni V.
Damm routing and switching Spec. exam 9E0-541, I have taken It two times in
two weeks, and failed both times the first time I got 819 need 825, today I
got 777, 

I am s pissed, at myself for the mostpart

but this exam is rather hard, atleast the version I got to day, the one I
got last week was ok, but I just did not know anything about the SOHO
products, so that failed me, but today totaly diffrent,
anyone here that has passed this exam ?

I have CCNA/DA CCNP/DP and passed all of them in the first try.

are the specilazition exams this much harder ???

well, just letting of some steem, I guess I wait for two weeks now and the
try It again...





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Re: Modular QoS CLI [7:65074]

2003-03-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am not sure how I should word my access-list or the police statements
(bps, normal burst)

I am not sure if I undertood what you are asking.

On the access-list you specify the flow that you want to give the bandwidth
specified on the policy-map.

interface vlan 90
service-policy input limit-traffic

I want to limit traffic coming in and going out.

With this command you are applying the traffic entering the interface.

Maybe CAR would be better if you want to always limit the internal traffic
  from reaching the Internet.

For example, if your internal network is connected to FA 0/0 and you
  external network is connected to ATM0/0/0, you would apply CAR on you
  FA0/0 interface

If I remember right, with Policy map you are only limiting the traffic when
congestion occur; if there is no congestion, the users will use the
available bandwidth.

What platform are you going to apply this?  I am asking because you may be
sure that the traffic is going to the interface (not the case when using
MLS).








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cc:

Assunto:Modular QoS CLI [7:65074]


I am trying to limit the traffic from two of my subnet using modular QoS
CLI.
I created a traffic class for my two subnets.

class-map match-all res-traffic
match access-group 101
class-map match-all wire-traffic
match access-group 102

I defined a service policy name.

policy-map limit-traffic
class res-traffic
  police bps normal burst exceed-action drop

policy-map limit-traffic
class wire-traffic
  police bps normal burst exceed-action drop

I am going to apply this service policy to my interface connecting to the
Internet.

interface vlan 90
  service-policy input limit-traffic

I am not sure how I should word my access-list or the police statements
(bps, normal burst)
so that I can stop these two subnets from saturating our bandwidth (6 MB)
to
the Internet.
I want to limit traffic coming in and going out.


access-list 101 deny ip ip address any
access-list 101 permit ip any any
access-list 102 deny ip ip address any
access-list 102 permit ip any any


Thanks for your help.

Naomi James
Computer Services and Information Technology
Savannah State University
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Re: AToM configuration [7:65024]

2003-03-12 Thread Amar KHELIFI
Hi Ismail,
since no one responded to ur message, here is a link that has sample
configuration for the stated protocols and more.
enjoy...:)
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/iosswrel/ps5012/products_feature_guid
e_chapter09186a0080134a1d.html
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 Hi All,
 Any one can send me sample configuration for PPP  ATM over MPLS

 Thanks and best regards
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Slow WAN connections [7:65158]

2003-03-12 Thread Terry Oldham
Hello All,

 I recently posted to the newsgroup about configuring a mulitple T1
connection to a single network. I have since then got the configuration up
and running however the connection out to the net is very slow. I cannot
seem to figure out why. Here is the basics of the config:

Fasteth0ip address 172.16.100.2
 ip nat inside

Serial0 ip address 144.x.x.x
   ip nat outside

Serial1ip address 65.x.x.x
  ip nat outside

ip nat pool Qwest 65.120.161.167 65.120.161.190 netmask 255.255.255.224
ip nat pool Sprint 65.160.124.199 65.160.124.222 netmask 255.255.255.224
ip nat inside source route-map Qwest1 pool  overload
ip nat inside source route-map Sprint1 pool  overload
ip nat inside source static 172.16.100.5 65.120.161.162
ip nat inside source static 172.16.200.5 65.160.124.194
ip nat inside source static 172.16.100.6 65.120.161.163
ip nat inside source static 172.16.200.6 65.160.124.195
ip nat inside source static 172.16.100.7 65.120.161.164
ip nat inside source static 172.16.200.7 65.160.124.196
ip nat inside source static 172.16.100.8 65.120.161.165
ip nat inside source static 172.16.200.8 65.160.124.197
ip nat inside source static 172.16.100.9 65.120.161.166
ip nat inside source static 172.16.200.9 65.160.124.198
ip classless
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 65.x.x.x
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 144.x.x.x
ip route 65.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 Serial1
ip route 144.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 Serial0
ip route 172.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 FastEthernet0
ip http server
!
!
access-list 10 permit 172.16.100.0 0.0.0.255
access-list 10 permit 172.16.200.0 0.0.0.255

The Serial interfaces are not showing any kind of problems and packets are
going out of each of them.

Thanks in advance




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Re: PRI [7:64999]

2003-03-12 Thread Amar KHELIFI
the D channel in on the 16th not the 15th for an E1

Priscilla Oppenheimer  a icrit dans le message de
news: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 So, here's a question for you all. I saw this on a practice test. Does
ISDN
 use in-band or out-of-band signaling and is it different for BRI
versus
 PRI?

 Well, it's not robbed-bit signaling, from what I understand, which I guess
 means it is out-of-band? The signaling has its own channel. But the
 signaling channel is bundled with the other channels in the circuit that
 your order from the telco.

 BRI has the 2 Bearer channels and the one D channel that enter the CPE
 together on a 2-wire circuit.

 With PRI, in Europe, ISDN enters the CPE on an E1 (4-wire ?) circuit. The
 15th timeslot is used for signaling.

 With PRI, in the U.S., ISDN enters the CPE on a T1 4-wire circuit. The
24th
 timeslot is used for signaling, if you can believe the books.

 What would be the Cisco answer to the question of ISDN signaling being
 in-band versus out-of-band?

 Thanks,

 Priscilla

 Jens Neelsen wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  Yes, it is one D channel per PRI. An E1 has 32 timeslots of
  64kbps (=30B +1D +1timing). A T1 PRI has 24 timeslots + rest
  (=23D +1D). Timing is in the rest.
 
  You can save D channels if put more than one E1/T1 in a bundle.
  Then you need only one D channel per bundle.
 
  So the answer is: not more than one D channel per PRI.
 
  Jens
 
  --- maine dude  wrote:
   Hi All,
  
   Quick question I hope you can help me with.
  
   How many D channels does a PRI have?
  
   I always thought it was two, but its states 1 in most places.
  
   Text taken from the CCNP remote access guide (to make it more
   confusing):
  
   there are 30 timeslots, leaving 2 timeslots for signalling and
   framing.
   Timeslot 0 is used for framing and timeslot 16 is used for
   signalling
   (counting 0-31). E1 PRI makes use of this same principle.
   Timeslot 16 is the
   D channel and timeslot 0 is used for framing information.
   Please advise.
   Regards,DJ
  
  
  
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RE: DTP and VTP Domain [7:64892]

2003-03-12 Thread cebuano
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On 3/12/2003 at 12:00 AM Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:

Hi Karen,

Are you back in the U.S.? Welcome back, if yes! I consider you a guru
of
campus networking technologies from the answers you give on GroupStudy.


Yes, that's absolutely true. When I hear about her name, it's almost
synonymous with Kennedy Clark. I've enjoyed reading her posts since I
met her on this list about 3 years ago.
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slow wan connection [7:65165]

2003-03-12 Thread Terry Oldham
Hello All,

 I recently posted to the newsgroup about configuring a mulitple T1
connection to a single network. I have since then got the configuration up
and running however the connection out to the net is very slow. I cannot
seem to figure out why. Here is the basics of the config:

Fasteth0ip address 172.16.100.2
 ip nat inside

Serial0 ip address 144.x.x.x
   ip nat outside

Serial1ip address 65.x.x.x
  ip nat outside

ip nat pool Qwest 65.120.161.167 65.120.161.190 netmask 255.255.255.224
ip nat pool Sprint 65.160.124.199 65.160.124.222 netmask 255.255.255.224
ip nat inside source route-map Qwest1 pool  overload
ip nat inside source route-map Sprint1 pool  overload
ip nat inside source static 172.16.100.5 65.120.161.162
ip nat inside source static 172.16.200.5 65.160.124.194
ip nat inside source static 172.16.100.6 65.120.161.163
ip nat inside source static 172.16.200.6 65.160.124.195
ip nat inside source static 172.16.100.7 65.120.161.164
ip nat inside source static 172.16.200.7 65.160.124.196
ip nat inside source static 172.16.100.8 65.120.161.165
ip nat inside source static 172.16.200.8 65.160.124.197
ip nat inside source static 172.16.100.9 65.120.161.166
ip nat inside source static 172.16.200.9 65.160.124.198
ip classless
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 65.x.x.x
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 144.x.x.x
ip route 65.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 Serial1
ip route 144.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 Serial0
ip route 172.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 FastEthernet0
ip http server
!
!
access-list 10 permit 172.16.100.0 0.0.0.255
access-list 10 permit 172.16.200.0 0.0.0.255

The Serial interfaces are not showing any kind of problems and packets are
going out of each of them.

Thanks in advance




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Re: sniffer in Wan interface [7:65149]

2003-03-12 Thread Troy Leliard
I dont think you can do it with out some form of in-line analyser?

kuma kk wrote:
 Hi Group,
 
 Is there any way to capture the traffic on a WAN link using the sniffer 
 software. I am able to capture the traffic on Ethernet connecting Router
and
 Switch port by mirroring the port.
 
 Appreciate your help
 
 Regards,
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Re: sniffer in Wan interface [7:65149]

2003-03-12 Thread Amar KHELIFI
u can use a tap and connect a sniffer to it...;;

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 Hi Group,

 Is there any way to capture the traffic on a WAN link using the sniffer
 software. I am able to capture the traffic on Ethernet connecting Router
and
 Switch port by mirroring the port.

 Appreciate your help

 Regards,
 Kum






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Workbook homelab ? [7:65161]

2003-03-12 Thread richard dumoulin
I was wondering whether the people who passed the lab and used the well
known prep lab workbooks did adapt their own home lab to do the exercises or
bought all the necessary routers/switches to set up the 13 router lab or
just purchased remote rack.
I myself possess 6 routers but they are only sufficient to do the Solie's
labs, not more.
Thanks for any comment on this.


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Telecom Books/Questions [7:65156]

2003-03-12 Thread Jeff Anderson
Hello All,

I'm hoping to get some input on which books are good to strengthen my
understanding of the telco and their equipment.

Currently I work in the NOC of my company. We primarily do 1st level
troubleshooting of our network equipment and T1s. Primarily we have been
running point-to-point T1s from our home office our to hub locations
which
then have small branch offices connect via point-to-point fractional
T1s.
The design group has started implementing DS3s at the hub locations
utilizing ATM back to our home office. The small branch sites now
connect
to new hub locations via Frame-Relay (the telco is providing us
frame-to-atm
conversions). Since I'm pretty new to Frame-Relay I'm trying to get a
better understanding of exactly what is happening. I understand the
basics
of Frame-Relay, but I'm looking for a more in-depth discussion of these
types
of scenarios.

A good example is currently we have a site that is bouncing 3/4 times a
day.
The CSU/DSU on our side shows no errored seconds. The telco is telling
me
that the DAX (hope that is right for digital cross-connects), is showing
no
errors. However, they say they are seeing CRC errors, LMI misalignment
errors, LMI timeouts, etc., on their Frame-Relay switch. To me, since we
aren't seeing errors on their send pair and they aren't seeing errors on
our
send pair (their DAX with no errors), then the problem exists between
their
1st DAX and their Frame-Relay switch. Now, I could be completely wrong
and
that is why I'm looking for more information - especially since I
believe we
will be seeing much more of these types of implementations at my
organization.

So, any books/sites/etc. that you could recommend for me to educate
myself
on telco inner working and/or DS3/ATM troubleshooting, explanations,
etc.
would be greatly appreciated. I currently have no books referencing any
of
these technologies (except for the Larscom CSU/DSU manuals - which
aren't
too bad - and a ton of Cisco books geared more toward
routing/switching/security). I googled for a couple of hours tonight
w/out much luck. I also found about 20 books on Amazon, but I'm not sure
if
they really address my needs. So, again any input sincerely appreciated.

Jeff

P.S. I just wanted to thank everyone on this list - I've been a lurker
for a
couple of years and have learned tons form you folks! Got my CCNP and
now
working toward my CCIE.




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Re: PIX Question [7:65095]

2003-03-12 Thread Richard Deal
Manny,

Yes, you can limit the maximum number of connections to a device and the
maximum number of half-open (embryonic) connections. This is done with the
NAT command, at least in your case, since the connections are going from
high-to-low security levels. The NAT command allows you to specify these two
parameters. You'll need to be careful as to what you set them to, otherwise
you might be preventing legitimate connections. By the way, the defaults for
these values is the limit of your connection license, so as you have seen,
an internal user could easily (purposefully or not) create a DoS attack and
paralyze your network.

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Manny  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I ran into a situation today where we had a machine that was trying to FTP
 through the firewall. We allow FTP outbound. The problem that came up was
 that the user had no idea that an FTP client was setup on his machine. The
 FTP client (spyware) kept trying to connect to a server (ispynow.com)
using
 the incorrect user name and password. For every attempt an xlate entry was
 created. It created about 7000 entries in a matter of minutes. The
firewall
 was paralyzed. I had to console in and look at the xlate table. Even
through
 the console I had a hard time viewing the table. Is there any way to
prevent
 this from happening again?This is the second time this year an incident of
 this nature with the xlate table has occurred. How can I monitor the xlate
 table for strange behavior?




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Re: Telecom Books/Questions [7:65156]

2003-03-12 Thread Amar KHELIFI
also the sites of the vendor equipement is good place to start with
troubleshooting.


Jeff Anderson  a icrit dans le message de news:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hello All,

 I'm hoping to get some input on which books are good to strengthen my
 understanding of the telco and their equipment.

 Currently I work in the NOC of my company. We primarily do 1st level
 troubleshooting of our network equipment and T1s. Primarily we have been
 running point-to-point T1s from our home office our to hub locations
 which
 then have small branch offices connect via point-to-point fractional
 T1s.
 The design group has started implementing DS3s at the hub locations
 utilizing ATM back to our home office. The small branch sites now
 connect
 to new hub locations via Frame-Relay (the telco is providing us
 frame-to-atm
 conversions). Since I'm pretty new to Frame-Relay I'm trying to get a
 better understanding of exactly what is happening. I understand the
 basics
 of Frame-Relay, but I'm looking for a more in-depth discussion of these
 types
 of scenarios.

 A good example is currently we have a site that is bouncing 3/4 times a
 day.
 The CSU/DSU on our side shows no errored seconds. The telco is telling
 me
 that the DAX (hope that is right for digital cross-connects), is showing
 no
 errors. However, they say they are seeing CRC errors, LMI misalignment
 errors, LMI timeouts, etc., on their Frame-Relay switch. To me, since we
 aren't seeing errors on their send pair and they aren't seeing errors on
 our
 send pair (their DAX with no errors), then the problem exists between
 their
 1st DAX and their Frame-Relay switch. Now, I could be completely wrong
 and
 that is why I'm looking for more information - especially since I
 believe we
 will be seeing much more of these types of implementations at my
 organization.

 So, any books/sites/etc. that you could recommend for me to educate
 myself
 on telco inner working and/or DS3/ATM troubleshooting, explanations,
 etc.
 would be greatly appreciated. I currently have no books referencing any
 of
 these technologies (except for the Larscom CSU/DSU manuals - which
 aren't
 too bad - and a ton of Cisco books geared more toward
 routing/switching/security). I googled for a couple of hours tonight
 w/out much luck. I also found about 20 books on Amazon, but I'm not sure
 if
 they really address my needs. So, again any input sincerely appreciated.

 Jeff

 P.S. I just wanted to thank everyone on this list - I've been a lurker
 for a
 couple of years and have learned tons form you folks! Got my CCNP and
 now
 working toward my CCIE.




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2003-03-12 Thread Edgar A. Howard
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Re: Good book for CCIE Written Prep [7:65104]

2003-03-12 Thread Dennis Laganiere
I recently revised the list of the book I thought were useful for this exam
at www.laganiere.net, let me know if you find it useful...

--- Dennis Laganiere

- Original Message -
From: Troy Leliard 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 12:44 AM
Subject: RE: Good book for CCIE Written Prep [7:65104]


 I think you should be asking good books?  :)  I am currently using Bruces
 Caslows, Routing and Switching, New Cisco Press CCIE book, and the Cisco
 Press CCIE - Practical Book.

 I think the best way to tackle the big one is to start a file yourself,
an
 in it have a chapter for each topic that appears on the blueprint,
 methodically go through each topic and research if from a number of
sources
 (books, white papers, RFC's) etc, Obviously, topics where you are stronger
 needs less detail. And of course back it all up with hands on.  Even for
the
 written ecam, memory retention, I find is always better when I have worked
 through a lab or section of a lab.

 The idea being that you will cover everything off, and realise that the
 area's you dont like, you need to put in a little but more work.  At the
end
 of it and, when you get the email saying congrats, you're ccie is  you
 can then sell you file and get it published :) hehehe, then future ccie
 wannabies will be asking,.what is s good bookm, and you can recommend your
 own. :)

 Good luck studying!


 Skarphedinsson Arni V. wrote:
 
  Can anyone recomend a good book for CCIE Written preperation ?




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Re: PIX Question [7:65095]

2003-03-12 Thread Kent Hundley
Manny,

A couple of thoughts, not necessarily in order of applicability:

1) Change the timeout values for idle connections for conn (connection
slot) from 1 hr to 5-10 min and change the xlate timeout from 3 hrs to
5-10 minutes. These are idle timeouts and will probably work for most
environments unless you have a lot of low traffic, long timeout
connections. (uses the 'timeout' command)

2) Enable aaa authorization for at least ftp and http.  Force users to
authenticate before using those services.

3) Log PIX messages to a syslog server, monitor it for xlate problems
with something like logsurfer.

4) Install an IDS system and monitor for failed FTP logins.

Obviously, these are not mutually exclusive.

HTH,
Kent

On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 16:04, Manny wrote:
 I ran into a situation today where we had a machine that was trying to FTP
 through the firewall. We allow FTP outbound. The problem that came up was
 that the user had no idea that an FTP client was setup on his machine. The
 FTP client (spyware) kept trying to connect to a server (ispynow.com) using
 the incorrect user name and password. For every attempt an xlate entry was
 created. It created about 7000 entries in a matter of minutes. The firewall
 was paralyzed. I had to console in and look at the xlate table. Even
through
 the console I had a hard time viewing the table. Is there any way to
prevent
 this from happening again?This is the second time this year an incident of
 this nature with the xlate table has occurred. How can I monitor the xlate
 table for strange behavior?




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RE: sniffer in Wan interface [7:65149]

2003-03-12 Thread s vermill
kuma kk wrote:
 
 Hi Group,
 
 Is there any way to capture the traffic on a WAN link using the
 sniffer
 software. I am able to capture the traffic on Ethernet
 connecting Router and
 Switch port by mirroring the port.
 
 Appreciate your help
 
 Regards,
 Kum
 

If you just mean a PC running a sniffer application, it's pretty unlikely
you'll be able to do any WAN analysis.  The biggest problem is that PCs
don't have much in the way of interfaces that can be put in a monitor
position (ever seen a laptop with a T1 or T3 interface?).  There are some
RS-422 PCMCIA cards out there that are capable of, say, HDLC decode. 
However, I haven't been able to find any sniffer package that will interface
to the driver code for those PCMCIA cards.  If I knew more than just
elementary C++, maybe I could write the code to make the interface between
the two.  I did some research a while back but it wasn't promising.  I'm
hopeful that after I get a little more familiar with Linux some new doors
might open.

Likely, you'll need a WAN analyzer.  They typically run in the $10k(US) to
$25k range.  Not your typical home lab toy.



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Re: is 10baseT dead? [7:65077]

2003-03-12 Thread Steven Aiello
Scott,

   I think you have a great point, it seems that most of the computer 
technologies we have today are not taken full advantage of.  However 
instead of taking the air out the sale's staff sales as it were ( no pun 
intended ).  Why not suggest upgrade from the Idf's to the server farm. 
  You could suggest Ether Channel to combine some of the runs you have 
put in ( I'm sure ) when you are upgrading your networks.  This way you 
have more bandwidth to the server farm and fault tolerance. WOW now 
that's a selling point.  Also it can be done with out raising up the 
costs on hardware to much.  You can get duel interface NIC's for your 
servers that are fairly reasonable now.  I am amazed at the push for 
processor speed now, I can think if very few people that NEED 3Ghz with 
2Gb of RAM.  However no one NEEDS a Jaguar eigther, some people just 
want it and if they can afford it so be it.  Look at the situation this 
way at least if your going for over kill the network will perform well, 
that is better than underselling and then having your clients be upset 
because they are limited in the future.

But hay that's just my 2 cents.  Take it with a grain of salt.

= )

Steven




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Re: 10 half or 100 full [7:64931]

2003-03-12 Thread John Neiberger
Interestingly, just now I fixed a problem with a Sun Netra server that was
set to autonegotiate.  It was connected to a 6500 that was hard-set to
100/Full.  Since manually setting the speed on a 6500 disables participation
in autonegotiation, the server was choosing 100/Half instead of 100/Full.

Setting both sides to auto fixed the problem and I'm no longer seeing errors
on the switch.

John

Sam Sneed wrote:
 
 I see interesting, most of my sun servers are over 2 years old.
 You say
 newer cisco switches should be set to auto first then manual if
 you have
 problems. Do you mean newer as in version of IOS, OS or newer
 physical
 hardware?
 
 John Neiberger  wrote in
 message
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  We have quite a mix of NT/Novell/Sun servers.  As for the Sun
 servers,
 over
  half are set to auto.  With those, we've only changed the
 settings when we
  had an issue.  With the Intel-based servers and workstations
 we've moved
  most of them to auto.
 
  We've had a few machines with older NICs where auto just
 wasn't working
  right, but if your NICs are relatively new and you have
 updated drivers
 you
  shouldn't have a problem, at least with autonegotiation. 
 We've had other
  issues, primarily with 3COM NICs on Dell workstations, but
 those have been
  resolved.
 



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Re: 5-4-3 rule [7:65140]

2003-03-12 Thread Amar KHELIFI
the rule is
5 hubs
4 segments
and only 3 populated segments
but the above only applies to 10base x
the hall problem is the the round trip propagation that cannot exceed 512bit
time, so for a 10base x, the maximun roud trip should be 51.2microsecs or
less, other wise problems will manifest, by being unable to detect
collision(csma-cd will fail)


Tiongster  a icrit dans le message de news:
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 Hi to all pros,

 I would like to ask a very simple which is also very confusing. If I
 connected three hubs together have I break a 5-4-3 rule? But I don't
 think I have break the 5-4-3 rule because I believe the wiring of the
 hub is a bus circuit which is a segment and with three hubs connected
 together it consist of three segments. I hope someone will correct me if
 I'm wrong as I have been debating with my peers for past few days. My
 peers insisted four hubs connected is the correct one which is the
 maximum network of the 5-4-3 rule. Aren't four hubs consist of four
 segments which have broke the 5-4-3 rule? Thanks in advance.

 Chiam Chin Tiong CCNA
 ITE Dover student
 ICQ 153179194

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When to use PIM nbma-mode?? [7:65187]

2003-03-12 Thread Cisco Nuts
Hello,
When is the cmd. ip pim nbma-mode actually used in a frame-relay hub and 
spoke topology?
In my testing , I have found out that if the RP happens to be in one of the 
spokes say spoke A, then it is needed for the other spoke, spoke B to get to 
a multicast group configured on spoke A?
Is this correct?

If the RP happens to be on the Hub router then everything works fine without 
using nbma-mode, correct?

Thank you for your help.
Sincerely,
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Re: Bandwidth calculations [7:65008]

2003-03-12 Thread s vermill
Amar KHELIFI wrote:
 
 sorry i don't agree.
 check the bandwidth calculator on the net, u will see that i
 was correct.
 + for the K and k and B and b, it is so obvious that an
 explanation is not
 necessary...
 thanx for letting my messages show up normally and then respond
 to
 them;

I don't know what bandwidth calculator you're talking about but I suspect it
measures throughput based on bytes.  That's fine (and is, in fact, exactly
the source of confusion I was talking about).  Computers deal in bytes and
so they're interested in how many bytes per second they can download.  But a
WAN circuit, which has nothing to do with computers, doesn't care about
bytes.  It lives in a bit world.  A 32kbps circuit operates at 32,000 bits
per second.  With a good many years designing, building, and troubleshooting
WANs under my belt, I can say this with some authority.  I've directly
observed thousands of WAN circuits with WAN analyzers.  I know what rates
they operate at.

But don't take my word for it.  Study the Digital Plesiochronous Hierarchy
for yourself.  You will find that the basic WAN unit is a DS0, which
operates at 64kbps.  That's 64, bps.  In North America, the next step up
is the DS1.  It consists of 24 DS0s multiplexed together plus 8 kbps
overhead.  Multiply 24 by 64,000 and add 8,000.  You get 1,544,000 bps. 
Ever heard of that data rate?  If not, you may be more familiar with the
European system -- which also starts with a basic unit of 64,000 bps.  
Regardless of which hierarchy you look at, you'll find that the math doesn't
add up according to your calculations.  For example, 24 multiplied by 64
multiplied by 1024 plus 8kbps overhead would add up to 1,580,864bps.  Most
certainly not a DS1.

 
 
 s vermill  a icrit dans le message
 de news:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  I should also have mentioned that the B is typically
 capitalized along
  side the K when dealing with kilobytes (KB) and the b is
 typically not
  capitalized when dealing with kilobits (kbps).  That's
 probably at least,
 if
  not more, significant than the K/k capitalization (if, in
 fact, any of
 it
  is significant).  I mention it because it seems to cause so
 much
 confusion.
  You won't see it around here much, but at some other forums
 one of the
 chief
  complaints relates to achieving only 1/8th the expected
 download rate.
  What's happening, of course, is that the download is being
 measured in
  KB/sec while the connection is rated in kbits/sec.  I'll shut
 up now...
 
 
  s vermill wrote:
  
   Amar KHELIFI wrote:
   
since
1byte=8bits
and
1Kbits=1024bits
then
 32kbps=32768bps=4096bytes
there is no formula.
  
   Amar KHELIFI,
  
   1kbits does not = 1024bits and 32kbps does not = 32768bps.
   1kbps = 1,000bps  32kbps = 32000bps.  k simply means
 1,000.
   The whole idea of 1KB (KiloByte) = 1024 bits has to do with
   binary math and the fact that computers deal in bytes vs.
   bits.  2^10 = 1024, which is divisibly by 8 (whereas 1,000
   would not be).  It would be very inconvenient for a
 computer to
   have to deal with information blocks that are not divisible
 by
   8.  Modern communications systems are not byte-aligned at
 all
   and deal strictly in bits.  For example, a DS0 is 64kbps.
   That's 64,000bps.
  
   As a side note, and I'm not sure that there's any official
   convention to go along with this, in general, a KiloByte is
   abbreviated KB, with a capital K.  kilobits per second is
   generally abbreviated kbps, with a lower-case k.  Thus, when
   you see a capital K, it's safe to assume 1024 is being
 implied,
   whereas when you see a lower-case k, it's safe to assume
 1,000
   is being implied.
  
   Regards,
  
   Scott
  
  
  
   
Robert Perez  a icrit dans le
message de
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 Anyone know how the conversion techniques for converting
bits, bytes,
 kilobits, etc, to calculate bandwidth usages?
 
 




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RE: slow wan connection [7:65165]

2003-03-12 Thread Lupi, Guy
Are both of these T1s from the same provider, or is one from Sprint and one
from Qwest?  From looking at your NAT pools, and the whois information
(below), it appears to be one from Sprint and one from Qwest.  I am not sure
how the router would make the decision when doing PAT, but it is going to
pick one of the NAT pools, and then load balance across the T1s (whether per
destination or per packet cannot be determined without seeing if CEF is
turned on and seeing the whole serial interface configurations).
In this scenario, you would be trying to send some packets out to each
provider with source IP addresses that are not valid source IPs for that
network, this may or may not be your problem.  Some portion of your packets
may be being dropped by the providers when they see source IP addresses that
they did not provide you.  Or, all of your packets are sourced from Qwest,
since that is the first NAT pool, and you are load sharing outbound, but all
return traffic is coming in on the Qwest T1 and using up all your inbound
bandwidth.  Check to see which one of these is the case, or if neither
applies, and get back to us.


whois -h whois.arin.net 65.120.161.167
Qwest Communications NET-QWEST-BLKS-4 (NET-65-112-0-0-1) 
  65.112.0.0 - 65.127.255.255
THREE Z PRINTING COMPANY Q1007-65-120-161-160 (NET-65-120-161-160-1) 
  65.120.161.160 - 65.120.161.191

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2003-03-11 20:00
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.

whois -h whois.arin.net 65.160.124.199
Sprint SPRINTLINK-2-BLKS (NET-65-160-0-0-1) 
  65.160.0.0 - 65.174.255.255
PowerNet Global Communications SPRINTLINK (NET-65-160-124-192-1) 
  65.160.124.192 - 65.160.124.223

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2003-03-11 20:00
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.


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Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 9:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: slow wan connection [7:65165]


Hello All,

 I recently posted to the newsgroup about configuring a mulitple T1
connection to a single network. I have since then got the configuration up
and running however the connection out to the net is very slow. I cannot
seem to figure out why. Here is the basics of the config:

Fasteth0ip address 172.16.100.2
 ip nat inside

Serial0 ip address 144.x.x.x
   ip nat outside

Serial1ip address 65.x.x.x
  ip nat outside

ip nat pool Qwest 65.120.161.167 65.120.161.190 netmask 255.255.255.224
ip nat pool Sprint 65.160.124.199 65.160.124.222 netmask 255.255.255.224
ip nat inside source route-map Qwest1 pool  overload
ip nat inside source route-map Sprint1 pool  overload
ip nat inside source static 172.16.100.5 65.120.161.162
ip nat inside source static 172.16.200.5 65.160.124.194
ip nat inside source static 172.16.100.6 65.120.161.163
ip nat inside source static 172.16.200.6 65.160.124.195
ip nat inside source static 172.16.100.7 65.120.161.164
ip nat inside source static 172.16.200.7 65.160.124.196
ip nat inside source static 172.16.100.8 65.120.161.165
ip nat inside source static 172.16.200.8 65.160.124.197
ip nat inside source static 172.16.100.9 65.120.161.166
ip nat inside source static 172.16.200.9 65.160.124.198
ip classless
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 65.x.x.x
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 144.x.x.x
ip route 65.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 Serial1
ip route 144.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 Serial0
ip route 172.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 FastEthernet0
ip http server
!
!
access-list 10 permit 172.16.100.0 0.0.0.255
access-list 10 permit 172.16.200.0 0.0.0.255

The Serial interfaces are not showing any kind of problems and packets are
going out of each of them.

Thanks in advance




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test msg [7:65200]

2003-03-12 Thread Sam
test msg


test msg




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RE: Workbook homelab ? [7:65161]

2003-03-12 Thread richard dumoulin
Wow, I would be proud to own such a lab !!


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Re: sniffer in Wan interface [7:65149]

2003-03-12 Thread MADMAN
Right, you need the WAN interface on your analyzer and a maybe a Y cable.

   Dave

Troy Leliard wrote:
 I dont think you can do it with out some form of in-line analyser?
 
 kuma kk wrote:
 
Hi Group,

Is there any way to capture the traffic on a WAN link using the sniffer 
software. I am able to capture the traffic on Ethernet connecting Router
 
 and
 
Switch port by mirroring the port.

Appreciate your help

Regards,
Kum






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RE: Good book for CCIE Written Prep [7:65104]

2003-03-12 Thread Logan, Harold
Dennis,

Has your Boson test been updated for the new written? I found your old test
very helpful when I took the old written, and I have a friend who is getting
ready for the new one.

Thanks,

Hal Logan CCAI, CCDP, CCNP: Voice
Network Specialist / Adjunct Faculty
Computing  Engineering Technology
Manatee Community College


 -Original Message-
 From: Dennis Laganiere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:51 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Good book for CCIE Written Prep [7:65104]
 
 
 I recently revised the list of the book I thought were useful 
 for this exam
 at www.laganiere.net, let me know if you find it useful...
 
 --- Dennis Laganiere
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Troy Leliard 
 To: 
 Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 12:44 AM
 Subject: RE: Good book for CCIE Written Prep [7:65104]
 
 
  I think you should be asking good books?  :)  I am 
 currently using Bruces
  Caslows, Routing and Switching, New Cisco Press CCIE book, 
 and the Cisco
  Press CCIE - Practical Book.
 
  I think the best way to tackle the big one is to start a 
 file yourself,
 an
  in it have a chapter for each topic that appears on the blueprint,
  methodically go through each topic and research if from a number of
 sources
  (books, white papers, RFC's) etc, Obviously, topics where 
 you are stronger
  needs less detail. And of course back it all up with hands 
 on.  Even for
 the
  written ecam, memory retention, I find is always better 
 when I have worked
  through a lab or section of a lab.
 
  The idea being that you will cover everything off, and 
 realise that the
  area's you dont like, you need to put in a little but more 
 work.  At the
 end
  of it and, when you get the email saying congrats, you're 
 ccie is  you
  can then sell you file and get it published :) hehehe, then 
 future ccie
  wannabies will be asking,.what is s good bookm, and you can 
 recommend your
  own. :)
 
  Good luck studying!
 
 
  Skarphedinsson Arni V. wrote:
  
   Can anyone recomend a good book for CCIE Written preperation ?




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Re: Bandwidth calculations [7:65008]

2003-03-12 Thread s vermill
Amar KHELIFI wrote:
 
 sorry i don't agree.
 check the bandwidth calculator on the net, u will see that i
 was correct.
 + for the K and k and B and b, it is so obvious that an
 explanation is not
 necessary...
 thanx for letting my messages show up normally and then respond
 to
 them;

Amar KHELFI,

If you look at my original post, you will see that I was even guilty of
mucking this all up.  1KB does not equal 1024 bits as I said, but rather
1024 _BYTES_.  Again, 1024 vs. simply 1,000 in this case becuase of simple
exponential math in computers/software.  WAN links don't have that problem.

A kbit, in terms of memory or storage, would be 1024 bits.  But kbps, in
terms of WAN capacity or rate, refers to 10^3 bits rather than 2^10 bits.

I hope I now stand corrected...  

 
 
 s vermill  a icrit dans le message
 de news:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  I should also have mentioned that the B is typically
 capitalized along
  side the K when dealing with kilobytes (KB) and the b is
 typically not
  capitalized when dealing with kilobits (kbps).  That's
 probably at least,
 if
  not more, significant than the K/k capitalization (if, in
 fact, any of
 it
  is significant).  I mention it because it seems to cause so
 much
 confusion.
  You won't see it around here much, but at some other forums
 one of the
 chief
  complaints relates to achieving only 1/8th the expected
 download rate.
  What's happening, of course, is that the download is being
 measured in
  KB/sec while the connection is rated in kbits/sec.  I'll shut
 up now...
 
 
  s vermill wrote:
  
   Amar KHELIFI wrote:
   
since
1byte=8bits
and
1Kbits=1024bits
then
 32kbps=32768bps=4096bytes
there is no formula.
  
   Amar KHELIFI,
  
   1kbits does not = 1024bits and 32kbps does not = 32768bps.
   1kbps = 1,000bps  32kbps = 32000bps.  k simply means
 1,000.
   The whole idea of 1KB (KiloByte) = 1024 bits has to do with
   binary math and the fact that computers deal in bytes vs.
   bits.  2^10 = 1024, which is divisibly by 8 (whereas 1,000
   would not be).  It would be very inconvenient for a
 computer to
   have to deal with information blocks that are not divisible
 by
   8.  Modern communications systems are not byte-aligned at
 all
   and deal strictly in bits.  For example, a DS0 is 64kbps.
   That's 64,000bps.
  
   As a side note, and I'm not sure that there's any official
   convention to go along with this, in general, a KiloByte is
   abbreviated KB, with a capital K.  kilobits per second is
   generally abbreviated kbps, with a lower-case k.  Thus, when
   you see a capital K, it's safe to assume 1024 is being
 implied,
   whereas when you see a lower-case k, it's safe to assume
 1,000
   is being implied.
  
   Regards,
  
   Scott
  
  
  
   
Robert Perez  a icrit dans le
message de
news: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Anyone know how the conversion techniques for converting
bits, bytes,
 kilobits, etc, to calculate bandwidth usages?
 
 




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Re: Bandwidth calculations [7:65008]

2003-03-12 Thread Peter van Oene
At 01:36 PM 3/12/2003 +, Amar KHELIFI wrote:
sorry i don't agree.
check the bandwidth calculator on the net, u will see that i was correct.
+ for the K and k and B and b, it is so obvious that an explanation is not
necessary...

While I agree that Kb tends to refer to 1024 and kb to 1000, I will suggest 
that very few things are so obvious that they do not require 
explanation.  If it truly did not require explanation, you would not be 
involved in a discussion revolving around the clarity of the expression, or 
otherwise you mean to suggest that your partner in the discussion is obtuse 
to to the point of missing the most obvious of points, which I think might 
be a little offensive.

Pete




thanx for letting my messages show up normally and then respond to
them;


s vermill  a icrit dans le message de news:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  I should also have mentioned that the B is typically capitalized along
  side the K when dealing with kilobytes (KB) and the b is typically
not
  capitalized when dealing with kilobits (kbps).  That's probably at least,
if
  not more, significant than the K/k capitalization (if, in fact, any of
it
  is significant).  I mention it because it seems to cause so much
confusion.
  You won't see it around here much, but at some other forums one of the
chief
  complaints relates to achieving only 1/8th the expected download rate.
  What's happening, of course, is that the download is being measured in
  KB/sec while the connection is rated in kbits/sec.  I'll shut up now...
 
 
  s vermill wrote:
  
   Amar KHELIFI wrote:
   
since
1byte=8bits
and
1Kbits=1024bits
then
 32kbps=32768bps=4096bytes
there is no formula.
  
   Amar KHELIFI,
  
   1kbits does not = 1024bits and 32kbps does not = 32768bps.
   1kbps = 1,000bps  32kbps = 32000bps.  k simply means 1,000.
   The whole idea of 1KB (KiloByte) = 1024 bits has to do with
   binary math and the fact that computers deal in bytes vs.
   bits.  2^10 = 1024, which is divisibly by 8 (whereas 1,000
   would not be).  It would be very inconvenient for a computer to
   have to deal with information blocks that are not divisible by
   8.  Modern communications systems are not byte-aligned at all
   and deal strictly in bits.  For example, a DS0 is 64kbps.
   That's 64,000bps.
  
   As a side note, and I'm not sure that there's any official
   convention to go along with this, in general, a KiloByte is
   abbreviated KB, with a capital K.  kilobits per second is
   generally abbreviated kbps, with a lower-case k.  Thus, when
   you see a capital K, it's safe to assume 1024 is being implied,
   whereas when you see a lower-case k, it's safe to assume 1,000
   is being implied.
  
   Regards,
  
   Scott
  
  
  
   
Robert Perez  a icrit dans le
message de
news: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Anyone know how the conversion techniques for converting
bits, bytes,
 kilobits, etc, to calculate bandwidth usages?




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kbit vs. Kbit kByte vs. KByte (was BW Calc) [7:65211]

2003-03-12 Thread s vermill
Wow!  I knew there was confusion out there about this, but I didnt realize
just how much (even on my part it would seem).  Here’s one possible source
of clarification:

http://www.speedguide.net/Cable_modems/bandwidth.shtml

and another:

http://www.scotsnewsletter.com/best_of/dtrct.htm
(not this Scott's newsletter by the way - I just happened across it doing a
yahoo search on the matter)

The consensus seems to be that there should be made a distinction between a
binary Kilo (with a capital “K”) and a decimal kilo (with a lower-case
“k”).  This, I think, was already well-established and agreed to but it sure
is easy to get sloppy with that capitalization and terminology.

kbit = 1,000 bits (decimal 10^3)
kByte = 1,000 bytes (decimal 10^3)

Kbit = 1,024 bits (binary 2^10)
KByte = 1,024 bytes (binary 2^10)

As I understand it, most modern hard drives are now rated in decimal format
(I’m pretty sure it used to be binary, but I’ve read in several different
places that the industry migrated to decimal sometime back -- probably as a
marketing gimmick).  That is, 1 kByte (or even KByte in this special case)
of storage actually equals 1,000 Bytes or 8,000 bits instead of 1,024 Bytes
or 8,192 bits.  Memory is apparently still rated in binary Kilo bits/Bytes. 
That is, 1 KB of memory is 1,024 Bytes or 8,192 bits.

All WAN connections always have been and still are rated in decimal format. 
That is, 1 kbps equals 1,000 bits/sec and 1 kB equals 1,000 Bytes (or 8,000
bits)/sec.  I'm not aware of throughput ever having been expressed in binary
Kbits or KBytes (at least not in the telecom world).  Maybe computer geeks
did that, but it only served to confuse the matter more if they did.  If a
download test were to return results in true binary KBytes/sec, you would
first have to multiply that number of KBytes by 1,024 and then multiply by 8
to get the true decimal number of bits/sec.  Perhaps tests some do.  Perhaps
some don’t.  Probably it’s a mess of a mix that resulted from all this
confusion.

Software weenies still seem to deal with binary Kilo, regardless of whether
it’s bits or Bytes.  But I’m not one of them, so I can’t make this last
statement definitively.

Sheesh.  

 





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Re: slow wan connection [7:65165]

2003-03-12 Thread MADMAN
By looking at your partial config and the NAT pool names these look 
like Internet connections.  If that is the case how is this a multiple 
connection to a single network??

   Dave

Terry Oldham wrote:
 Hello All,
 
  I recently posted to the newsgroup about configuring a mulitple T1
 connection to a single network. I have since then got the configuration up
 and running however the connection out to the net is very slow. I cannot
 seem to figure out why. Here is the basics of the config:
 
 Fasteth0ip address 172.16.100.2
  ip nat inside
 
 Serial0 ip address 144.x.x.x
ip nat outside
 
 Serial1ip address 65.x.x.x
   ip nat outside
 
 ip nat pool Qwest 65.120.161.167 65.120.161.190 netmask 255.255.255.224
 ip nat pool Sprint 65.160.124.199 65.160.124.222 netmask 255.255.255.224
 ip nat inside source route-map Qwest1 pool  overload
 ip nat inside source route-map Sprint1 pool  overload
 ip nat inside source static 172.16.100.5 65.120.161.162
 ip nat inside source static 172.16.200.5 65.160.124.194
 ip nat inside source static 172.16.100.6 65.120.161.163
 ip nat inside source static 172.16.200.6 65.160.124.195
 ip nat inside source static 172.16.100.7 65.120.161.164
 ip nat inside source static 172.16.200.7 65.160.124.196
 ip nat inside source static 172.16.100.8 65.120.161.165
 ip nat inside source static 172.16.200.8 65.160.124.197
 ip nat inside source static 172.16.100.9 65.120.161.166
 ip nat inside source static 172.16.200.9 65.160.124.198
 ip classless
 ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 65.x.x.x
 ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 144.x.x.x
 ip route 65.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 Serial1
 ip route 144.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 Serial0
 ip route 172.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 FastEthernet0
 ip http server
 !
 !
 access-list 10 permit 172.16.100.0 0.0.0.255
 access-list 10 permit 172.16.200.0 0.0.0.255
 
 The Serial interfaces are not showing any kind of problems and packets are
 going out of each of them.
 
 Thanks in advance
-- 
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CCIE# 2016
Sr. Network Engineer
Qwest Communications
612-664-3367

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RE: 9E0-541 Exam trobules [7:65162]

2003-03-12 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G
I am in no way picking on you in particular in this email, but this brings
up a point that has been discussed previously at Groupstudy. A big problem
with all this certification insanity and brainwashing is that people can
keep taking and re-taking the exams until they pass. So, people end up not
really knowing the technologies, just how to memorize numerous questions or
topics that may be covered on the exams. It's to the point where I don't
even put CCNP, CCDP, etc. after my name anymore because it really doesn't
prove anything. For all anyone knows, I may have never touched a router or
designed a network in my life. I may have just taken the exams 10 times each
until I passed. 

You're best off taking the time to really learn the materials so that when
you take the exam, you're not doing it on a wing and a prayer. You'll not
only save yourself some money, but you can feel that you really deserve to
pass and be able to apply this knowledge to actual situations. 

Just my opinion,

Shawn K.

-Original Message-
From: Skarphedinsson Arni V. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 9:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 9E0-541 Exam trobules [7:65162]

Damm routing and switching Spec. exam 9E0-541, I have taken It two times in
two weeks, and failed both times the first time I got 819 need 825, today I
got 777, 

I am s pissed, at myself for the mostpart

but this exam is rather hard, atleast the version I got to day, the one I
got last week was ok, but I just did not know anything about the SOHO
products, so that failed me, but today totaly diffrent,
anyone here that has passed this exam ?

I have CCNA/DA CCNP/DP and passed all of them in the first try.

are the specilazition exams this much harder ???

well, just letting of some steem, I guess I wait for two weeks now and the
try It again...




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RE: to the moderator [7:65037]

2003-03-12 Thread John Neiberger
If you're referring to Clifford, I regret to say (on Howard's behalf in case
he doesn't see this post) that he passed away a few months ago.  He now has
three new cats named Mr. Clark, Rhonda, and either Misha or Ding.  I never
did figure out whether it was one or the other.

And all of them, especially Clifford, deserve honorable mention!

 Logan, Harold 3/12/03 1:46:49 PM 
You forgot to thank a very important contributor to the list.

On behalf of us all, I would also like to thank Howard's cat. =)

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Edmonds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 10:28 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Subject: Re: to the moderator [7:65037]
 
 
 Well, I would like to take this opportunity to thank Paul 
 then.  I have
 learned a lot just reading the interesting posts here.  In 
 fact, I keep a
 document of any particularly good tips for future reference.  
 I would also
 like to thank a couple of the most active folks here, like Larry and
 Priscilla for sharing their obvious experience.  This free 
 site helps make
 my (and I'm quite sure, other folks') job a lot easier.
 
 Robert
 
 John Neiberger  wrote in message
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  just wondering who is the moderator here?
  yesterday i could send messages ok, now, i can't, can u 
 tell what you
  changed? and if so the reasons that made you do so?
 
  Paul, the list owner and operator, was working on a problem with the
  GroupStudy email system most of yesterday.  It appears that 
 it has been
  fixed.
 
  To answer your first question, there are actually several 
 participants
  that act as moderators but we don't have any control over the actual
  operation of the system.  Paul is the owner/operator and is 
 also who we
  should thank for GroupStudy even being in existence.  I mention that
  because he doesn't get nearly the credit he deserves for 
 the amount of
  work he puts into a FREE site.  :-)
 
  Regards,
  John
  One of several possible moderators




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RE: Workbook homelab ? [7:65161]

2003-03-12 Thread Danny Free
Hi,
I have not passed the Lab yet. My date is in June. Below is a home lab
that I have assembled. It all depends on how much you can afford to spend.
With this equipment I can do the CCbootcamp, IPexpert, Hello
and Routopia labs at home. The only thing is that for ATM I will have to
rent rack time. I have all four workbooks. When I bought the IPexpert
workbook they provided four free 6.5 hour sessions of rack time. I've went
through each workbook and website to obtain the rack
specifications. Then I drew a diagram for each workbook and with the
equipment I have I can cable up my rack once at the start of each workbook
and perform all the required labs. With the exception of the 2-2501's and
the 2924 switch which I borrowed from a friend, every other item listed was
bought off Ebay. Routers,switches,modules,ISDN, cables etc. You have to be
dilligent and shop for the best price. I never had a single problem with the
Ebay auctions. All equipment arrived in a 100% working condition. Total
spent on Ebay was close to
7 grand. Excellent price for all this equipment. Again, I am fortunate to be
able to afford this, barely. My credit cards are maxed out and for my last
purchase (the 2 3550 switches)I had to take a loan out. Best of luck.

Danny

Cisco 2610 - Terminal Server
2033 - r1 (2610) - 1 -NM-2V / 1 2FXS / 1 2FXO / 2 FE / 2S
2034 - r2 (4000) - 1E / 2S / 2T
2035 - r3 (4000) - 10S
2036 - r4 (2610) -1 NM-2V / 1 2FXS /  BRI / 1E / 1S
2037 - r5 (2610) - 4 BRI / 2S / 1E 
2038 - r6 (2610) - 1E / 5S / 1 BRI
2039 - r7 (2524) - BRI / E / 2S
2040 - r8 (2514) - 2E / 2S
2041 - r9 (2514) - 2E / 2S
2042 - r10 (2501) - 1E / 2S
2043 - r11 (2501) - 1E / 2S
2044 - sw1 (2901) 
2045 - sw2 (2924) 
2047 - sw3 (3550A) - 24 / 2 GBIC
2048 - sw4 (3550B) - 24 / 2 GBIC

1 - Teltone ISDN Demonstrator
2 - Analog phones
Various cables (DCE-DTE),Cat 5 straight, Cat 5 xover


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Re: 10 half or 100 full [7:64931]

2003-03-12 Thread Larry Letterman
that happens to me all the time..we hard set the switches to
100/full, the server guys bring up the ports in auto, we get the
issue you got...usually on sun's...In most places we run auto/auto.

Larry Letterman
Network Engineer
Cisco Systems


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  Subject: Re: 10 half or 100 full [7:64931]


  Interestingly, just now I fixed a problem with a Sun Netra server that was
  set to autonegotiate.  It was connected to a 6500 that was hard-set to
  100/Full.  Since manually setting the speed on a 6500 disables
participation
  in autonegotiation, the server was choosing 100/Half instead of 100/Full.

  Setting both sides to auto fixed the problem and I'm no longer seeing
errors
  on the switch.

  John

  Sam Sneed wrote:
  
   I see interesting, most of my sun servers are over 2 years old.
   You say
   newer cisco switches should be set to auto first then manual if
   you have
   problems. Do you mean newer as in version of IOS, OS or newer
   physical
   hardware?
  
   John Neiberger  wrote in
   message
   news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
We have quite a mix of NT/Novell/Sun servers.  As for the Sun
   servers,
   over
half are set to auto.  With those, we've only changed the
   settings when we
had an issue.  With the Intel-based servers and workstations
   we've moved
most of them to auto.
   
We've had a few machines with older NICs where auto just
   wasn't working
right, but if your NICs are relatively new and you have
   updated drivers
   you
shouldn't have a problem, at least with autonegotiation.
   We've had other
issues, primarily with 3COM NICs on Dell workstations, but
   those have been
resolved.




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Putting my rack online [7:65214]

2003-03-12 Thread Charles EEEE Riley
Hi, all,

Does anyone have a template or configuration I can use to put my rack
online? At this point, this is for me and my colleagues personnally, not
looking at selling time on it anytime soon.  I figured I would ask the group
for a design or template and see if I can avoid reinventing the wheel.

Basically, I'd like to set up a Linux box with friendly web page for
scheduling, turn teh rack on and off (apc9211 power switch), and other
features.  The users would schedule their time, which configures the console
router to open up the access list for their account, and from there,
straight sessions to each router.

I am not asking for much, am I?



TIA,

Charles




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Layer 3 Switches Vs Routers [7:65215]

2003-03-12 Thread nanda
Hi ...

We have switches that operate at Layer 3..right..
My Question is when we have Routers that are good enough why do we need
switches at layer3?
Under what circumtances do we use switches instead of routers?

Hope I made Myself Clear...Thanks in Advance!!!

Regards...
Nanda




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Syslog server [7:65217]

2003-03-12 Thread Tariq
I am looking for a good free ware PIX / CISCO syslog server. Any
recommendations???

Tariq




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Re: Question on Traffic on the internet [7:65148]

2003-03-12 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 1:18 PM + 3/12/03, Han Chuan Alex Ang wrote:
I am wondering about this question, if my vendor told me that their server
are resided locally and I assumed that traffic out through my ATM with 2Mb
local and 256Kb International will off course travelled through the 2Mb
local leased line nad considered local traffic,

I check the IP assign from Arin whois and found that it was indeed locally
assign, however, when I did a tracert or pathping in Win2K, I found out that
it actually route through a router with ip which is assign in the US from
Arin whois then to the vendor server, does it mean traffic is actually
travelling through the international pipe from my ATM or consider local,

My question is how will ISP determine your traffic whether it is local or
international traffic , is it base on the Destination IP or base on the
Router IP it is directed to. hope someone is able to understand my question
and shed some light. thanks


ISPs actually consider many more factors than these.  From the 
simplest possible perspective, the decision is made on destination 
address.

Put strightforwardly, the operational practice and design is the 
global Internet means that you will get optimal routing (defined for 
each case) only when you do special negotiations for it, and there is 
a financial motivation for EVERY ISP in the path to cooperate in such 
routing.

You have somewhat greater control to the ISPs to which you are 
directly connected, but this still will be dominated by business 
considerations that are then mapped into technical design.

Very different, unfortunately, than Cisco certification labs.




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RE: to the moderator [7:65037]

2003-03-12 Thread Logan, Harold
You forgot to thank a very important contributor to the list.

On behalf of us all, I would also like to thank Howard's cat. =)

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Edmonds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 10:28 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: to the moderator [7:65037]
 
 
 Well, I would like to take this opportunity to thank Paul 
 then.  I have
 learned a lot just reading the interesting posts here.  In 
 fact, I keep a
 document of any particularly good tips for future reference.  
 I would also
 like to thank a couple of the most active folks here, like Larry and
 Priscilla for sharing their obvious experience.  This free 
 site helps make
 my (and I'm quite sure, other folks') job a lot easier.
 
 Robert
 
 John Neiberger  wrote in message
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  just wondering who is the moderator here?
  yesterday i could send messages ok, now, i can't, can u 
 tell what you
  changed? and if so the reasons that made you do so?
 
  Paul, the list owner and operator, was working on a problem with the
  GroupStudy email system most of yesterday.  It appears that 
 it has been
  fixed.
 
  To answer your first question, there are actually several 
 participants
  that act as moderators but we don't have any control over the actual
  operation of the system.  Paul is the owner/operator and is 
 also who we
  should thank for GroupStudy even being in existence.  I mention that
  because he doesn't get nearly the credit he deserves for 
 the amount of
  work he puts into a FREE site.  :-)
 
  Regards,
  John
  One of several possible moderators




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Using SNMP with AS5300! [7:65222]

2003-03-12 Thread Kenan Ahmed Siddiqi
I have an AS5300 with 8 PRI's(E1's) and want to use SNMP to monitor traffic
passing thru each E1  thru each channel of a single E1. How can I do that
using SNMP?? I need specific commands/pdf's/command reference guide if
avialable! pls help! Thanx!



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RE: ATM for Practice Lab [7:65087]

2003-03-12 Thread Danny Free
Hi,
Just yesterday I was wondering the same thing. I checked into getting ATM
for my home lab and the cheapest I came up with was $1,500.00
for all needed equipment. 

Check Horizondatacom.com - Cisco Lightstream 100 - $495.00
They have 2 available.

Check Ebay - 2 4500M (165.00 each). One seller has six of these
for sale. No modules, however 16/16 with 12.0 IOS. Do the following
search from the Ebay main page - cisco 4500m. This auction will end
in 19 hours from now (time now is 3:30 pm EST)

Check Ebay - 1 seller has a np-1a-sm for an unbelievable $200.00
and another seller has a np-1a-sm for $425.00. Do the following search from
the Ebay main page - cisco np-1a-sm. The first guy's
auction ends 3/13. 

It depends on how your finances are. I mulled over whether to buy but
decided to use an online rack rental for ATM. Best of luck.

Danny 


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RE: Syslog server [7:65217]

2003-03-12 Thread Orlando, Jr. Palomar
You might want to give Kiwi Syslog a spin. It's free.

http://www.kiwisyslog.com/


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RE: is 10baseT dead? [7:65077]

2003-03-12 Thread DeVoe, Charles (PKI)
What about htis.  The server tries to dump data to the client over the 10M
pipe.  The client cannot accept it as fast as the server can put out.
Having a slower line to the client in effect will cause degradation at the
server.

-Original Message-
From: Steven Aiello [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 11:02 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: is 10baseT dead? [7:65077]


Scott,

   I think you have a great point, it seems that most of the computer 
technologies we have today are not taken full advantage of.  However 
instead of taking the air out the sale's staff sales as it were ( no pun 
intended ).  Why not suggest upgrade from the Idf's to the server farm. 
  You could suggest Ether Channel to combine some of the runs you have 
put in ( I'm sure ) when you are upgrading your networks.  This way you 
have more bandwidth to the server farm and fault tolerance. WOW now 
that's a selling point.  Also it can be done with out raising up the 
costs on hardware to much.  You can get duel interface NIC's for your 
servers that are fairly reasonable now.  I am amazed at the push for 
processor speed now, I can think if very few people that NEED 3Ghz with 
2Gb of RAM.  However no one NEEDS a Jaguar eigther, some people just 
want it and if they can afford it so be it.  Look at the situation this 
way at least if your going for over kill the network will perform well, 
that is better than underselling and then having your clients be upset 
because they are limited in the future.

But hay that's just my 2 cents.  Take it with a grain of salt.

= )

Steven




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Re: Question on Traffic on the internet [7:65148]

2003-03-12 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 1:18 PM + 3/12/03, Han Chuan Alex Ang wrote:
I am wondering about this question, if my vendor told me that their server
are resided locally and I assumed that traffic out through my ATM with 2Mb
local and 256Kb International will off course travelled through the 2Mb
local leased line nad considered local traffic,

I check the IP assign from Arin whois and found that it was indeed locally
assign, however, when I did a tracert or pathping in Win2K, I found out that
it actually route through a router with ip which is assign in the US from
Arin whois then to the vendor server, does it mean traffic is actually
travelling through the international pipe from my ATM or consider local,

My question is how will ISP determine your traffic whether it is local or
international traffic , is it base on the Destination IP or base on the
Router IP it is directed to. hope someone is able to understand my question
and shed some light. thanks


ISPs actually consider many more factors than these.  From the 
simplest possible perspective, the decision is made on destination 
address.

Put strightforwardly, the operational practice and design is the 
global Internet means that you will get optimal routing (defined for 
each case) only when you do special negotiations for it, and there is 
a financial motivation for EVERY ISP in the path to cooperate in such 
routing.

You have somewhat greater control to the ISPs to which you are 
directly connected, but this still will be dominated by business 
considerations that are then mapped into technical design.

Very different, unfortunately, than Cisco certification labs.




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RE: to the moderator [7:65037]

2003-03-12 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 9:05 PM + 3/12/03, John Neiberger wrote:
If you're referring to Clifford, I regret to say (on Howard's behalf in case
he doesn't see this post) that he passed away a few months ago.

Still deeply with us in spirit.

He now has
three new cats named Mr. Clark, Rhonda, and either Misha or Ding.  I never
did figure out whether it was one or the other.

Thanks, John. The latter wound up as Ding, as in Tom Clancy's Mr. 
Clark's protege. Ding usually follows the Big Guy.

Mr. Clark, enormous former tomcat that he is, happily agrees that the 
kittens no longer need to nurse on him -- producing the most martyred 
expression I have ever seen on a cat. He will still allow the 
adolescents to ride horsey on him, and cheerfully washes their 
faces -- as well as mine.


And all of them, especially Clifford, deserve honorable mention!

  Logan, Harold 3/12/03 1:46:49 PM 
You forgot to thank a very important contributor to the list.

On behalf of us all, I would also like to thank Howard's cat. =)

  -Original Message-
  From: Robert Edmonds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 10:28 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: to the moderator [7:65037]


  Well, I would like to take this opportunity to thank Paul
  then.  I have
  learned a lot just reading the interesting posts here.  In
  fact, I keep a
  document of any particularly good tips for future reference. 
  I would also
  like to thank a couple of the most active folks here, like Larry and
  Priscilla for sharing their obvious experience.  This free
  site helps make
  my (and I'm quite sure, other folks') job a lot easier.

  Robert

  John Neiberger  wrote in message
  news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   just wondering who is the moderator here?
   yesterday i could send messages ok, now, i can't, can u
  tell what you
   changed? and if so the reasons that made you do so?
  
   Paul, the list owner and operator, was working on a problem with the
   GroupStudy email system most of yesterday.  It appears that
  it has been
   fixed.
  
   To answer your first question, there are actually several
  participants
   that act as moderators but we don't have any control over the actual
   operation of the system.  Paul is the owner/operator and is
  also who we
   should thank for GroupStudy even being in existence.  I mention that
   because he doesn't get nearly the credit he deserves for
  the amount of
   work he puts into a FREE site.  :-)
  
   Regards,
   John
   One of several possible moderators




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RE: kbit vs. Kbit kByte vs. KByte (was BW Calc) [7:65211]

2003-03-12 Thread s vermill
Here's a perfectly illustrative example of how common it is to jumble all
this terminology up...

I often use a download test site at PC Pitstop:

http://www.pcpitstop.com/internet/Bandwidth.asp

I ran a quick download test that transferred a 500 KB block of text to my
machine.  It took 2.744 seconds to complete.  Thus, the result was returned
as 1458 Kb/s.  Here's the math:

(assuming decimal)

500 * 1000 * 8 = 4,000,000 bits / 2.77 seconds = ~1,458,000 bits/sec = ~1458
decimal kbits/sec or ~1423 binary Kbits/sec

Now...

(assuming binary)

500 * 1024 * 8 = 4,096,000 bits / 2.77 seconds = ~1,478,000 bits/sec = ~1478
decimal kbits/sec or ~1443 binary Kbits/sec

So, in spite of the fact that they are using the binary upper-case “K”
throughout, they are obviously meaning the decimal lower-case “k,” which
makes sense given that throughput is expressed that way.



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Re: Syslog server [7:65217]

2003-03-12 Thread Kevin O'Gilvie
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RE: Question on Traffic on the internet [7:65148]

2003-03-12 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Han Chuan Alex Ang wrote:
 
 I am wondering about this question, if my vendor told me that
 their server are resided locally and I assumed that traffic out
 through my ATM with 2Mb local and 256Kb International will off
 course travelled through the 2Mb local leased line nad
 considered local traffic,
 
 I check the IP assign from Arin whois and found that it was
 indeed locally assign, however, when I did a tracert or
 pathping in Win2K, I found out that it actually route through a
 router with ip which is assign in the US from Arin whois then
 to the vendor server, does it mean traffic is actually
 travelling through the international pipe from my ATM or
 consider local,
 
 My question is how will ISP determine your traffic whether it
 is local or international traffic , is it base on the
 Destination IP or base on the Router IP it is directed to. hope
 someone is able to understand my question and shed some light.
 thanks


Traffic isn't directed to a router IP. IP addresses are end-to-end (putting
aside things like NAT and tunneling.) ISPs look at destination IP addresses
and routing tables to determine how to route.

(The reason you see router IP addresses with traceroute is because of the
way traceroute works, depending on router's to send back an ICMP TTL
Exceeded message.)

In the U.S., we see stuff like this a lot. I could traceroute a server I
know is a few miles down the road and the packets might go all over the U.S.
before ending up down the road.

Priscilla


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RE: is 10baseT dead? [7:65077]

2003-03-12 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
DeVoe, Charles (PKI) wrote:
 
 What about htis. 

Rearrange those letters once more and it will apply. Just kidding!
Seriously, your comment doesn't make sense.

A 10-Mbps NIC must be able to accept 10 megabits worth of bits in a second
unless it's broken.

Are you trying to get at the situation where the server sends at 100 Mbps
and the client is at 10 Mbps? Think about what is between them, i.e. a
store-and-forward switch. The switch to the client will only send at 10 Mbps.

Priscilla

 The server tries to dump data to the client
 over the 10M
 pipe.  The client cannot accept it as fast as the server can
 put out.
 Having a slower line to the client in effect will cause
 degradation at the
 server.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Steven Aiello [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 11:02 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: is 10baseT dead? [7:65077]
 
 
 Scott,
 
I think you have a great point, it seems that most of the
 computer
 technologies we have today are not taken full advantage of. 
 However
 instead of taking the air out the sale's staff sales as it were
 ( no pun
 intended ).  Why not suggest upgrade from the Idf's to the
 server farm.
   You could suggest Ether Channel to combine some of the runs
 you have
 put in ( I'm sure ) when you are upgrading your networks.  This
 way you
 have more bandwidth to the server farm and fault tolerance. WOW
 now
 that's a selling point.  Also it can be done with out raising
 up the
 costs on hardware to much.  You can get duel interface NIC's
 for your
 servers that are fairly reasonable now.  I am amazed at the
 push for
 processor speed now, I can think if very few people that NEED
 3Ghz with
 2Gb of RAM.  However no one NEEDS a Jaguar eigther, some people
 just
 want it and if they can afford it so be it.  Look at the
 situation this
 way at least if your going for over kill the network will
 perform well,
 that is better than underselling and then having your clients
 be upset
 because they are limited in the future.
 
 But hay that's just my 2 cents.  Take it with a grain of salt.
 
 = )
 
 Steven
 
 




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RE: ICMP Messages [7:65169]

2003-03-12 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
DeVoe, Charles (PKI) wrote:
 
 I have been looking at the transcender exams to get a final
 brush up for the
 CCNA exam.  In those exams there are questions about the
 routers response to
 things like trace and ping.  I believe they are referring to
 ICMP messages.

Yes, they are referring to ICMP messages. The ICMP RFC is 792.

 The response types they mention are things like the responses
 they use are
 !H, N, P, and U.  

Cisco's traceroute gives more precise results than ping, including:

H - host unreachable
N - network unreachable
P - protocol unreachable
U - port unreachable

Those are all subcategories of the generic ICMP destination unreachable
message.

Cisco's ping just gives back without the detailed reason:

U - destination unreachable

Both of them have a few other possible results.

! means success, of course, for both of them.

 I've never seen these before and was
 wondering where I
 could find the list of responses in this format. 

Search on ICMP, ping, and traceroute on Cisco's site. Cisco has an excellent
paper called Understanding the Ping and Traceroute Commands. Be sure to
spell out traceroute in your search string.

This is also covered in Troubleshooting Campus Networks. :-) It should be
in most CCNA books too!?
___

Priscilla Oppenheimer
www.troubleshootingnetworks.com
www.priscilla.com


 Thanks
 
 




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windows syslog server [7:65232]

2003-03-12 Thread Tariq
I am looking for a good free ware PIX / CISCO syslog server on windows
platform. Any  recommendations???

Tariq




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RE: 9E0-541 Exam trobules [7:65162]

2003-03-12 Thread Skarphedinsson Arni V.
I  totaly agree with you about the point of pepole just learning what is
enough to pass the tests, and take them again and again just to pass them,
As I come from a microsoft background and am a former Microsoft MCT traineer
I know this all to well, as it is a even bigger problem on that side.
I work in a cisco enviroment all day,  but as I am from a small contry with
a small market, there are some products that I don´t see a lot off, so I can
be hard to get real word exerpince with the whole range of cisco products.
This routing and switching exam is in my opinion totaly difrent from the
other cisco exams I have taken, as the questions are very short and to the
point about some detail, and I would say 50% configuring and functonality of
IOS features and 50% product knowlidge, and I.M.H.O some of the product
question can be preati obscure.
I was looking for comments frome somone that has taken this exam, as to what
they used to prepair, you can be asured that I am going to be well prepaired
the next time I take the exam, and I will probably better get to know some
of the products I dont work with on an regular basis.

Well good luck to me one the next atempt, that is going to be the last one,
as I am not faling againg ;)



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RE: Syslog server [7:65217]

2003-03-12 Thread Elijah Savage
Another good utility is Swatch.

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I am looking for a good free ware PIX / CISCO syslog server. Any
recommendations???

Tariq




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RE: What is a distributed/collapsed backbone? [7:65225]

2003-03-12 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
According to CID lingo a collapsed backbone is a single router or switch
acting as a backbone in a campus design model. It contrasts with a
distributed backbone where routers or switches are spread out among floors
or buildings, all connected together via something like FDDI. (Yes, CID
still has FDDI in it!)

Maybe that picture you are looking at is an error.

Good luck with CID. It's a fun one! :-)

Priscilla

Marc Thach Xuan Ky wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I thought I'd do 640-025 CID before it disappears, so I started
 reading
 the Ciscopress book, CID exam certification guide.  Now in
 chapter 2,
 section Issues facing campus LAN designers (I'm using Safari
 books
 online so I don't know the page number) it shows figs 2.4 and
 2.5
 distributed and collapsed backbones respectively.  The
 distributed
 backbone shows per floor, one router and one switch, the
 collapsed
 backbone shows a single router for the building fanning out to
 one
 switch per floor.  Fair enough I guess, but the scenario 1, Q2
 in the
 same chapter asks what backbone to use in a particular case and
 then
 answers it with distributed backbone and a picture fig 2.8
 that looks
 rather like the collapsed backbone shown earlier.  I obviously
 have to
 learn Ciscospeak for the exam so can anybody tell me, which is
 it?
 rgds
 Marc
 
 




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CCNA Exam - number of subnet question [7:65234]

2003-03-12 Thread Geert Nijs
Hello,

When you are asked for the number of subnets in the exam CCNA 640-607:

ie. 150.10.10.10 255.255.255.252.0

- subnet bits = 6

- supported subnets: 2^6 or 2^6-2 ??

In other words: if noting is mentioned in the question, do I have to
count zero-subnet and broadcast subnet as valid ? or invalid ?
when nothing is mentioned.


Geert




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RE: Syslog server [7:65217]

2003-03-12 Thread Elijah Savage
Any Linux or BSD box. I prefer OpenBSD for this task, then after
monitoring the logs manually for a few days and becoming familiar with
what is normal and what is not I setup fwlogwatch
http://cert.uni-stuttgart.de/projects/fwlogwatch/

And with this software you can tell it what to look for in the logs and
have it email you with suspect intrusions or what ever you tell it to
look for very nice.

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I am looking for a good free ware PIX / CISCO syslog server. Any
recommendations???

Tariq




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Re: Internet phone, is it possible? [7:65123]

2003-03-12 Thread nrf
The Long and Winding Road  wrote in
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  A friend of mine wants to establish a business that use internet to make
  phone calls. He wants to set up PSTN gateways in some countries and sell
  IP phones to high speed customers so customers can talk to each other
  free of charge and they can call PSTN for a fee. I think net2phone.com
  has the same thing.


 Anyone remember Blue Kangaroo?

 Risky business model. Capital intense. High customer support costs.

 Businesses can get long distance nationwide at less than 3 cents a minute
 these days. I gotta wonder if there really is enough demand to make this a
 profitable business, given the thin margins.

Yeah, but that's 3 cents a minute for calls in the US.  International
tariffs are significantly more expensive and hence offer more opportunities
for arbitrage.


 ( Looking at low balance in bank account ) Obviously I know something
about
 making money.. :-Anyway, He has some questions that I couldn't
  answer. I appreciate if someone can help me:
 
  1. Should he use SIP or CCM?
  2. Is round trip delay 200-300 msec acceptable?
 
  Thanks.
  Yoshi




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RE: 5-4-3 rule [7:65140]

2003-03-12 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Tiongster wrote:
 
 Hi to all pros,
  
 I would like to ask a very simple which is also very confusing.
 If I
 connected three hubs together have I break a 5-4-3 rule?

No, 3 hubs connected together does not break the 5-4-3 rule.

 But I
 don't
 think I have break the 5-4-3 rule because I believe the wiring
 of the
 hub is a bus circuit which is a segment

The 5-4-3 rule already takes into account that repeaters (hubs) introduce
some delay. You don't have to consider their bus architecture, or if they
even have a bus architecture. The rule includes soem default amount of
delay for the repeaters (hubs).

 and with three hubs
 connected
 together it consist of three segments.

Four segments, actually, but that's OK.

PC---HUB---HUB---HUB---PC

Each --- represents a segment.

 I hope someone will
 correct me if
 I'm wrong as I have been debating with my peers for past few
 days. My
 peers insisted four hubs connected is the correct one which is
 the
 maximum network of the 5-4-3 rule. Aren't four hubs consist of
 four
 segments which have broke the 5-4-3 rule? 

Four hubs is still OK too.

PC---HUB---HUB---HUB---HUB---PC

The 5-4-3 topology is just one possibility. Other topologies are possible as
long as round-trip delay doesn't exceed the time to send the minimum-sized
frame (512 bits).

Priscilla

Thanks in advance. 
  
 Chiam Chin Tiong CCNA
 ITE Dover student
 ICQ 153179194 
 
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What is a distributed/collapsed backbone? [7:65225]

2003-03-12 Thread Marc Thach Xuan Ky
Hi all,
I thought I'd do 640-025 CID before it disappears, so I started reading
the Ciscopress book, CID exam certification guide.  Now in chapter 2,
section Issues facing campus LAN designers (I'm using Safari books
online so I don't know the page number) it shows figs 2.4 and 2.5
distributed and collapsed backbones respectively.  The distributed
backbone shows per floor, one router and one switch, the collapsed
backbone shows a single router for the building fanning out to one
switch per floor.  Fair enough I guess, but the scenario 1, Q2 in the
same chapter asks what backbone to use in a particular case and then
answers it with distributed backbone and a picture fig 2.8 that looks
rather like the collapsed backbone shown earlier.  I obviously have to
learn Ciscospeak for the exam so can anybody tell me, which is it?
rgds
Marc




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Re: Layer 3 Switches Vs Routers [7:65215]

2003-03-12 Thread Larry Letterman
In the enterprise, I can vlan a building into seperate lans, route between
them and connect all the users with the same box..Thats one reason for layer
3
switches..

With the inclusion of the switching module in the 3745 router box,
it now kinda blurs the difference between routers and switches..
That box now can be a router for lan, wan, voice and a L2/L3
switch for a small office.

Larry Letterman
Network Engineer
Cisco Systems


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  Hi ...

  We have switches that operate at Layer 3..right..
  My Question is when we have Routers that are good enough why do we need
  switches at layer3?
  Under what circumtances do we use switches instead of routers?

  Hope I made Myself Clear...Thanks in Advance!!!

  Regards...
  Nanda




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RE: Layer 3 Switches Vs Routers [7:65215]

2003-03-12 Thread Orlando, Jr. Palomar
Without consulting any documentation, a couple of reasons I could think of
is forwarding rate and the switch-fabric (or the size of the backplane,
usually in Gbps). A full-fledged Layer-3 switch running at wire-speed
would be much more efficient in routing (and switching) between VLANs
compared to a router.

Another point of comparison is port density. You can only have such and such
number of ethernet, fastethernet, or maybe even gigabit ethernet ports on a
router before the cost becomes quite prohibitive.

Oh sure, you can use the router-on-a-stick method. And though it is a good
Cisco IOS feature, it was meant to be an interim solution when transitioning
from a flat to a segmented network.

Anyway, if you only have a relatively small network, say 2 VLANs, you can
opt for the router-on-a-stick method. Or better yet, use a router with
dual ethernets or fastethernets. However, if you're supporting 4,5, or more
networks, that's what L-3 and multi-layer switches are for.


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RE: What is a distributed/collapsed backbone? [7:65225]

2003-03-12 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 11:09 PM + 3/12/03, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
According to CID lingo a collapsed backbone is a single router or switch
acting as a backbone in a campus design model. It contrasts with a
distributed backbone where routers or switches are spread out among floors
or buildings, all connected together via something like FDDI. (Yes, CID
still has FDDI in it!)


But in a medical context, a collapsed backbone calls for careful 
immobilization, followed by the ministrations of orthopedic and 
neurological surgeons.

Medical science, however, can only call for the hearse when the 
backbone gets distributed.




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Off-topic: VPN possible? [7:65239]

2003-03-12 Thread Lo Ching
Hi All,

I have one remote location that need connecting to HQ. The internet service
provider can provide me a broadband line to access internet but only with 1
fixed IP.

My target is provide connectivity between remote site and HQ with security.

Can I add a FW/VPN box behind the router like the following?

remote LAN---FW/VPN---Router--Internet--HQ router---FW/VPN box--Server

My concern is that the remote site router will NAT-enable so the FW/VPN
behind it will have private address as well. I heard that there are some
issue on IPSec VPN behind the NAT-enable router. Is it ture?

Also, if no FW/VPN box installed in remote-site, any security concern?

FR or leased line of course is alternative approach but it is expensive and
slower in speed.

Thanks in advance.

rgds,
Lo Ching


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Re: CCNA Exam - number of subnet question [7:65234]

2003-03-12 Thread aletoledo
I think it depends on the question. I've found that most exams will give a
little hint, either the answer doesn't support both choices or the question
will have some comment of suitability of subnets.

if I had to choose though, I'd choose 2^6-2, since it wasn't till 12.0 that
the ip-subnet zero was made default and the tests were written prior to
that.

scott

Geert Nijs  wrote in message
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 Hello,

 When you are asked for the number of subnets in the exam CCNA 640-607:

 ie. 150.10.10.10 255.255.255.252.0

 - subnet bits = 6

 - supported subnets: 2^6 or 2^6-2 ??

 In other words: if noting is mentioned in the question, do I have to
 count zero-subnet and broadcast subnet as valid ? or invalid ?
 when nothing is mentioned.


 Geert




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Bootstrap protocol in Multicast [7:65243]

2003-03-12 Thread Ng, Kim Seng David (David)
Hi group,

In Bootstrap protocol, does the PIM router selects the RP with the higest or
lowest IP address (assuming everything else is the same) from the RP-set
list obtained in the RP-discovery message?? I was reading Jeff Doyle's
Routing TCP/IP Vol 2 and pages 491 (first bullet point) and 564 (last
second para) seems to contradict. I have done some testing and it seems to
be the lower IP address. Auto-RP seems to be the opposite.

Appreciate any response.

Thanks
David




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RE: 9E0-541 Exam trobules [7:65162]

2003-03-12 Thread Will Gragido
Take a deep breath and relax Arni.  They are just more tests, don't let them
get the better of you.

Will Gragido CISSP CCNP CIPTSS CCDA MCP
9450 W. Bryn Mawr Ave.
Suite 325
Rosemont, Il 60018
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Subject: 9E0-541 Exam trobules [7:65162]

Damm routing and switching Spec. exam 9E0-541, I have taken It two times in
two weeks, and failed both times the first time I got 819 need 825, today I
got 777, 

I am s pissed, at myself for the mostpart

but this exam is rather hard, atleast the version I got to day, the one I
got last week was ok, but I just did not know anything about the SOHO
products, so that failed me, but today totaly diffrent,
anyone here that has passed this exam ?

I have CCNA/DA CCNP/DP and passed all of them in the first try.

are the specilazition exams this much harder ???

well, just letting of some steem, I guess I wait for two weeks now and the
try It again...




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RE: Help with Memory [7:65192]

2003-03-12 Thread Vic Dmon
Hello, Could someone please reply back. I am not even sure if people are
seeing this message. I know that this has been discussed before. I am just
trying to get a know how as to what is the correct memory used. Please let
me know if there is something wrong with the question I have asked but
someone please reply. Thanks


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MII media-type connector for 72xx routers? [7:65246]

2003-03-12 Thread Xy Hien Le
Hi Everyone,

I have a 7206 with a built-in FastEthernet interface which is an MII
media-type connector.
What type of cable and connector do I need to convert it to a regular RJ45
connection?
Thank you all,

Xy




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PIX and certificates [7:65245]

2003-03-12 Thread Bruno Fernandes
Hi,

I am getting nuts on this, is there any specific steps for configuring the
Microsoft CA Server for working with the IOS and PIX ?

Or do I follow the defaults ?

Is there any doc where I can see this explained ?

The conf on pix and ios side is simple but I don't now if the CA Server is
configured correctly.

Where can I find the updated cepsetup.exe, I already tried in Microsoft's
site
but nothing.

Thanks in advance,
Bruno




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Re: Layer 3 Switches Vs Routers [7:65215]

2003-03-12 Thread aletoledo
a layer three switch is a router, just as a switch is really a bridge. a
layer 3 switch 'routes' in hardware, while a router routes in software.

thats the easiest way to look at them. it has gaps, but once you get the big
picture you can then start to talk about the specifics.

probably the biggest thing that a layer 3 switch can't do (unless its
changed recently) is route anything but IP. while designing the hardware
routing circuits for a L3-switch they had to compromise and IP being the
most popular won out. thats not to say that one day they won't have made
enough chipsets to route every other kind of protocol also. I suppose since
we saw the death of bridges due to switches, we'll also see the death of
routers to L3-switch.

scott

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 Hi ...

 We have switches that operate at Layer 3..right..
 My Question is when we have Routers that are good enough why do we need
 switches at layer3?
 Under what circumtances do we use switches instead of routers?

 Hope I made Myself Clear...Thanks in Advance!!!

 Regards...
 Nanda




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Re: kbit vs. Kbit kByte vs. KByte (was BW Calc) [7:65211]

2003-03-12 Thread Marc Thach Xuan Ky
This is all very well but sometimes when people write 500 they really
mean 512, so where does that leave you ?8-)
Marc

s vermill wrote:
 
 Here's a perfectly illustrative example of how common it is to jumble all
 this terminology up...
 
 I often use a download test site at PC Pitstop:
 
 http://www.pcpitstop.com/internet/Bandwidth.asp
 
 I ran a quick download test that transferred a 500 KB block of text to my
 machine.  It took 2.744 seconds to complete.  Thus, the result was returned
 as 1458 Kb/s.  Here's the math:
 
 (assuming decimal)
 
 500 * 1000 * 8 = 4,000,000 bits / 2.77 seconds = ~1,458,000 bits/sec =
~1458
 decimal kbits/sec or ~1423 binary Kbits/sec
 
 Now...
 
 (assuming binary)
 
 500 * 1024 * 8 = 4,096,000 bits / 2.77 seconds = ~1,478,000 bits/sec =
~1478
 decimal kbits/sec or ~1443 binary Kbits/sec
 
 So, in spite of the fact that they are using the binary upper-case K
 throughout, they are obviously meaning the decimal lower-case k, which
 makes sense given that throughput is expressed that way.




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Re: Load Balancing and NAT [7:64904]

2003-03-12 Thread Me
Interesting.  I am looking at doing the same thing after my Sprint circuit
was down three times in three business days for ~4 hours each time.
Something that makes my situation difficult is I have control of the 1700 on
my quest circuit but not the sprint router, it is owned by sprint.  So I
have to leave the sprint router in place and run its eth0 to an ethernet wic
in the 1700 and let it hadle the load balancing.  I'm thinking of trying to
let the 1700 do NAT as well so the ip blocks of both quest and sprint
circuits to appear within the same NAT'ed block inside.  The other part of
the design I have is a vpn established between the firewall behind the
router and a firewall in my co-lo.  I'm thinking of trying to establish the
vpn with an ip on each isp's block for redundancy there then start settign
up all traffic in and out of my site to go through the vpn so I shouldn't
have to worry about the different ip blocks.

Terry Oldham  wrote in message
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  I am attempting to setup a Cisco 1721 Router with load balancing and
 NAT so that we can provide a dual T1 connection to the network. This is
the
 first time I have done anything like this and I was wanting to know if
 anyone had any good pointers they could give me or any commands that I
 should beware of or add.

 Thanks,

 Terry O




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3640 ethernet slot card [7:65233]

2003-03-12 Thread John Brandis
Hi,
 
Does the 3640 have a card for gig ethernet ?


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