RE: CCNP ReCert Questions [7:72071]

2003-07-12 Thread Simon Watson
Hi PriscillaI'm in the same position as John (Cert expires on the 21st).
But I'm going to give the re-cert a go I've printed out the the MPLS
supplement you suggested to look on, will this be sufficent for the MPLS
portion of the test.Also the Catalyst 5K was the principle switch in the
switching portion 3 years ago.What switch is the switching portion of the
test based on now ???. From: Priscilla Oppenheimer Reply-To:
Priscilla Oppenheimer To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCNP
ReCert Questions [7:72071] Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:22:00 GMT  John
Cianfarani wrote: Well I decided I wouldn't push it in such a
short timeframe   with the one   exam. With work and whatever else
probably won't have enough   time to   study fully for it. So I will
write either all 4 again, or   cit/bcran   and then the new Composite
once it's out.   You shouldn't lose your CCNP, albeit temporarily
(hopefully). Think how hard you worked to get it. How will you feel when
you can no longer say you have it? I think you should try the recert
exam.  I'm sorry if I scared you by saying it is hard. It is hard, but
study the IS-IS supplement from Cisco Press and some material on
multilayer switching and eat a lot of blueberries. At least give it a
try.  Here's a link on multilayer switching: 
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/switch_c/xcprt5/xcdmsov.htm
 Do you know about the free PDF document that Cisco Press put out on
IS-IS for BSCI candidates? When Cisco added IS-IS, Cisco Press didn't
have a book out yet that covered it (from a BSCI viewpoint anyway), so
they put out a PDF. Here's a link: 
http://www.ciscopress.com/content/images/1578702283/downloads/BSCNSupplement.pdf?session_id={D6502E20-0A8E-4868-8FE7-5A1A54F64857}
 Good luck whichever way you go, but I definitely recommend not
lettting your CCNP disappear, even temporarily.  Priscilla 
Anyone know if the Composite will count towards things like   CCIP? If
it   doesn't I'd just take the 4 exam route. Thanks   John 
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[7:72071] Amazing wrote:   I just did the CCNP recet
test two weeks ago and passed withnot too muchstudying --
used boson test to see my weak areas and justbrushed up on   
those areas -- hint -- you can use the same study materials   you   
used threeyears ago -- nothing has changed. I wouldn't
recommend just using the same material as 3 years   ago. There   are
  some new topics, like IS-IS for Routing and multilayer   switching
for   Switching. Support and Remote Access seemed to be pretty  
similar, but   those   other two were pretty different from 3 years
ago, at least in   my test. I   found it to be a two-Tums-package
test for sure, depsite a good   score in   the   end.   
 as to the answer to your questions, my experience has been   that  
 you shouldgo directly to cisco with these questions so you have
a I defintely agree there. Go to Cisco. Even if we give you an 
 answer, the   Authoritative Bit will not be set. :-) That won't stop
me   though from   adding   a few more comments below 
documented answerwhen they change their mind later on ;-)
  d  John Cianfarani wrote in message   
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have to
recert my CCNP by the 21st of this month. (yeah Iknow I left   
 it late, but I was busy upgrading my CSS1 to CCSP). I
notice they have a new test coming out ( 642-891 ) CalledComposite
which is based on BSCI and BCMSN, which will also let you   
recert your CCNP and CCDP with at the same time. Now that test
doesn'tcome out until Aug 7th. Anyone know if there is
still a Beta of thisexam available to write? I
don't think they ever did a beta for that new composite exam   that  
suddenly   popped up? Maybe it will still come out? Or if
Writing BSCI / BCMSN is equivalent? I doubt you can just write
BSCI and BCMSN to get recertified.   Also anyone know a
way extended you recert date maybe bywriting a current
CCNP exam or something or am I just gonna have tobuckle down   
 and write the 640-851 CCNP Recert exam? Just do it. It's not
that painful. :-) And I think it's your   only   option.   Ask
Cisco and check your tracking info to be sure. Good luck!
Priscilla Thanks! John
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RE: CCNP ReCert Questions [7:72071]

2003-07-10 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
John Cianfarani wrote:
 
 Well I decided I wouldn't push it in such a short timeframe
 with the one
 exam. With work and whatever else probably won't have enough
 time to
 study fully for it.  So I will write either all 4 again, or
 cit/bcran
 and then the new Composite once it's out.


You shouldn't lose your CCNP, albeit temporarily (hopefully). Think how hard
you worked to get it. How will you feel when you can no longer say you have
it? I think you should try the recert exam.

I'm sorry if I scared you by saying it is hard. It is hard, but study the
IS-IS supplement from Cisco Press and some material on multilayer switching
and eat a lot of blueberries. At least give it a try.

Here's a link on multilayer switching:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/switch_c/xcprt5/xcdmsov.htm

Do you know about the free PDF document that Cisco Press put out on IS-IS
for BSCI candidates? When Cisco added IS-IS, Cisco Press didn't have a book
out yet that covered it (from a BSCI viewpoint anyway), so they put out a
PDF. Here's a link:

http://www.ciscopress.com/content/images/1578702283/downloads/BSCNSupplement.pdf?session_id={D6502E20-0A8E-4868-8FE7-5A1A54F64857}

Good luck whichever way you go, but I definitely recommend not lettting your
CCNP disappear, even temporarily.

Priscilla

 
 Anyone know if the Composite will count towards things like
 CCIP?  If it
 doesn't I'd just take the 4 exam route.
 
 Thanks
 John
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:22 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: CCNP ReCert Questions [7:72071]
 
 Amazing wrote:
  
  I just did the CCNP recet test two weeks ago and passed with
  not too much
  studying -- used boson test to see my weak areas and just
  brushed up on
  those areas -- hint -- you can use the same study materials
 you
  used three
  years ago -- nothing has changed.
 
 I wouldn't recommend just using the same material as 3 years
 ago. There
 are
 some new topics, like IS-IS for Routing and multilayer
 switching for
 Switching. Support and Remote Access seemed to be pretty
 similar, but
 those
 other two were pretty different from 3 years ago, at least in
 my test. I
 found it to be a two-Tums-package test for sure, depsite a good
 score in
 the
 end.
 
  
  as to the answer to your questions, my experience has been
 that
  you should
  go directly to cisco with these questions so you have a
 
 I defintely agree there. Go to Cisco. Even if we give you an
 answer, the
 Authoritative Bit will not be set. :-) That won't stop me
 though from
 adding
 a few more comments below
 
  documented answer
  when they change their mind later on ;-)
  
  d
  
  
  John Cianfarani  wrote in message
  news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   I have to recert my CCNP by the 21st of this month.  (yeah I
  know I left
   it late, but I was busy upgrading my CSS1 to CCSP).
  
   I notice they have a new test coming out ( 642-891 ) Called
  Composite
   which is based on BSCI and BCMSN, which will also let you
  recert your
   CCNP and CCDP with at the same time.  Now that test doesn't
  come out
   until Aug 7th.  Anyone know if there is still a Beta of this
  exam
   available to write?  
 
 I don't think they ever did a beta for that new composite exam
 that
 suddenly
 popped up? Maybe it will still come out?
 
 Or if Writing BSCI / BCMSN is equivalent?
 
 I doubt you can just write BSCI and BCMSN to get recertified.
 
  
   Also anyone know a way extended you recert date maybe by
  writing a
   current CCNP exam or something or am I just gonna have to
  buckle down
   and write the 640-851 CCNP Recert exam?
 
 Just do it. It's not that painful. :-) And I think it's your
 only
 option.
 Ask Cisco and check your tracking info to be sure. Good luck!
 
 Priscilla
 
 
  
   Thanks!
   John
 
 




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RE: CCNP ReCert Questions [7:72071]

2003-07-10 Thread John Cianfarani
I really do hate thinking I will lose it, but with any good luck it
should only be expired for a few weeks.  I plan to write the 4 exams
within about a 4-5 week timeframe. 
I don't really have enough time to do it for the 21st, unless all I do
is braindump it, but would prefer to go over all the material to
remember what I forgot and go over whatever is new, instead.  I figure
this way I'll end up writing BSCI which help in going for any of the
CCIP's.  I would have preferred just to write the Composite exam then I
could renew CCNP and CCDP at the same time. But such is life with Cisco
Certs.

Thanks for the IS-IS document.
John

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Subject: RE: CCNP ReCert Questions [7:72071]

John Cianfarani wrote:
 
 Well I decided I wouldn't push it in such a short timeframe
 with the one
 exam. With work and whatever else probably won't have enough
 time to
 study fully for it.  So I will write either all 4 again, or
 cit/bcran
 and then the new Composite once it's out.


You shouldn't lose your CCNP, albeit temporarily (hopefully). Think how
hard
you worked to get it. How will you feel when you can no longer say you
have
it? I think you should try the recert exam.

I'm sorry if I scared you by saying it is hard. It is hard, but study
the
IS-IS supplement from Cisco Press and some material on multilayer
switching
and eat a lot of blueberries. At least give it a try.

Here's a link on multilayer switching:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/
switch_c/xcprt5/xcdmsov.htm

Do you know about the free PDF document that Cisco Press put out on
IS-IS
for BSCI candidates? When Cisco added IS-IS, Cisco Press didn't have a
book
out yet that covered it (from a BSCI viewpoint anyway), so they put out
a
PDF. Here's a link:

http://www.ciscopress.com/content/images/1578702283/downloads/BSCNSupple
ment.pdf?session_id={D6502E20-0A8E-4868-8FE7-5A1A54F64857}

Good luck whichever way you go, but I definitely recommend not lettting
your
CCNP disappear, even temporarily.

Priscilla

 
 Anyone know if the Composite will count towards things like
 CCIP?  If it
 doesn't I'd just take the 4 exam route.
 
 Thanks
 John
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:22 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: CCNP ReCert Questions [7:72071]
 
 Amazing wrote:
  
  I just did the CCNP recet test two weeks ago and passed with
  not too much
  studying -- used boson test to see my weak areas and just
  brushed up on
  those areas -- hint -- you can use the same study materials
 you
  used three
  years ago -- nothing has changed.
 
 I wouldn't recommend just using the same material as 3 years
 ago. There
 are
 some new topics, like IS-IS for Routing and multilayer
 switching for
 Switching. Support and Remote Access seemed to be pretty
 similar, but
 those
 other two were pretty different from 3 years ago, at least in
 my test. I
 found it to be a two-Tums-package test for sure, depsite a good
 score in
 the
 end.
 
  
  as to the answer to your questions, my experience has been
 that
  you should
  go directly to cisco with these questions so you have a
 
 I defintely agree there. Go to Cisco. Even if we give you an
 answer, the
 Authoritative Bit will not be set. :-) That won't stop me
 though from
 adding
 a few more comments below
 
  documented answer
  when they change their mind later on ;-)
  
  d
  
  
  John Cianfarani  wrote in message
  news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   I have to recert my CCNP by the 21st of this month.  (yeah I
  know I left
   it late, but I was busy upgrading my CSS1 to CCSP).
  
   I notice they have a new test coming out ( 642-891 ) Called
  Composite
   which is based on BSCI and BCMSN, which will also let you
  recert your
   CCNP and CCDP with at the same time.  Now that test doesn't
  come out
   until Aug 7th.  Anyone know if there is still a Beta of this
  exam
   available to write?  
 
 I don't think they ever did a beta for that new composite exam
 that
 suddenly
 popped up? Maybe it will still come out?
 
 Or if Writing BSCI / BCMSN is equivalent?
 
 I doubt you can just write BSCI and BCMSN to get recertified.
 
  
   Also anyone know a way extended you recert date maybe by
  writing a
   current CCNP exam or something or am I just gonna have to
  buckle down
   and write the 640-851 CCNP Recert exam?
 
 Just do it. It's not that painful. :-) And I think it's your
 only
 option.
 Ask Cisco and check your tracking info to be sure. Good luck!
 
 Priscilla
 
 
  
   Thanks!
   John




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Re: CCNP ReCert Questions [7:72071]

2003-07-09 Thread Amazing
I just did the CCNP recet test two weeks ago and passed with not too much
studying -- used boson test to see my weak areas and just brushed up on
those areas -- hint -- you can use the same study materials you used three
years ago -- nothing has changed.

as to the answer to your questions, my experience has been that you should
go directly to cisco with these questions so you have a documented answer
when they change their mind later on ;-)

d


John Cianfarani  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I have to recert my CCNP by the 21st of this month.  (yeah I know I left
 it late, but I was busy upgrading my CSS1 to CCSP).

 I notice they have a new test coming out ( 642-891 ) Called Composite
 which is based on BSCI and BCMSN, which will also let you recert your
 CCNP and CCDP with at the same time.  Now that test doesn't come out
 until Aug 7th.  Anyone know if there is still a Beta of this exam
 available to write?  Or if Writing BSCI / BCMSN is equivalent?

 Also anyone know a way extended you recert date maybe by writing a
 current CCNP exam or something or am I just gonna have to buckle down
 and write the 640-851 CCNP Recert exam?

 Thanks!
 John




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Re: CCNP ReCert Questions [7:72071]

2003-07-09 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Amazing wrote:
 
 I just did the CCNP recet test two weeks ago and passed with
 not too much
 studying -- used boson test to see my weak areas and just
 brushed up on
 those areas -- hint -- you can use the same study materials you
 used three
 years ago -- nothing has changed.

I wouldn't recommend just using the same material as 3 years ago. There are
some new topics, like IS-IS for Routing and multilayer switching for
Switching. Support and Remote Access seemed to be pretty similar, but those
other two were pretty different from 3 years ago, at least in my test. I
found it to be a two-Tums-package test for sure, depsite a good score in the
end.

 
 as to the answer to your questions, my experience has been that
 you should
 go directly to cisco with these questions so you have a

I defintely agree there. Go to Cisco. Even if we give you an answer, the
Authoritative Bit will not be set. :-) That won't stop me though from adding
a few more comments below

 documented answer
 when they change their mind later on ;-)
 
 d
 
 
 John Cianfarani  wrote in message
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  I have to recert my CCNP by the 21st of this month.  (yeah I
 know I left
  it late, but I was busy upgrading my CSS1 to CCSP).
 
  I notice they have a new test coming out ( 642-891 ) Called
 Composite
  which is based on BSCI and BCMSN, which will also let you
 recert your
  CCNP and CCDP with at the same time.  Now that test doesn't
 come out
  until Aug 7th.  Anyone know if there is still a Beta of this
 exam
  available to write?  

I don't think they ever did a beta for that new composite exam that suddenly
popped up? Maybe it will still come out?

Or if Writing BSCI / BCMSN is equivalent?

I doubt you can just write BSCI and BCMSN to get recertified.

 
  Also anyone know a way extended you recert date maybe by
 writing a
  current CCNP exam or something or am I just gonna have to
 buckle down
  and write the 640-851 CCNP Recert exam?

Just do it. It's not that painful. :-) And I think it's your only option.
Ask Cisco and check your tracking info to be sure. Good luck!

Priscilla


 
  Thanks!
  John
 
 




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Re: CCNP ReCert Questions [7:72071]

2003-07-09 Thread Weaselboy
Two other problems with Cisco beta exams is that they are often loaded
with errors (meaning you can get an answer right, but not get the
points), and that you don't learn the results for months.  In your case,
you'd spend two months not knowing if you're CCNP is valid (I couldn't
handle the pressure if it were me)...

The WB

On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 15:24, Amazing wrote:
 I just did the CCNP recet test two weeks ago and passed with not too much
 studying -- used boson test to see my weak areas and just brushed up on
 those areas -- hint -- you can use the same study materials you used three
 years ago -- nothing has changed.
 
 as to the answer to your questions, my experience has been that you should
 go directly to cisco with these questions so you have a documented answer
 when they change their mind later on ;-)
 
 d
 
 
 John Cianfarani  wrote in message
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  I have to recert my CCNP by the 21st of this month.  (yeah I know I left
  it late, but I was busy upgrading my CSS1 to CCSP).
 
  I notice they have a new test coming out ( 642-891 ) Called Composite
  which is based on BSCI and BCMSN, which will also let you recert your
  CCNP and CCDP with at the same time.  Now that test doesn't come out
  until Aug 7th.  Anyone know if there is still a Beta of this exam
  available to write?  Or if Writing BSCI / BCMSN is equivalent?
 
  Also anyone know a way extended you recert date maybe by writing a
  current CCNP exam or something or am I just gonna have to buckle down
  and write the 640-851 CCNP Recert exam?
 
  Thanks!
  John




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RE: CCNP ReCert Questions [7:72071]

2003-07-09 Thread John Cianfarani
Well I decided I wouldn't push it in such a short timeframe with the one
exam. With work and whatever else probably won't have enough time to
study fully for it.  So I will write either all 4 again, or cit/bcran
and then the new Composite once it's out.

Anyone know if the Composite will count towards things like CCIP?  If it
doesn't I'd just take the 4 exam route.

Thanks
John

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CCNP ReCert Questions [7:72071]

Amazing wrote:
 
 I just did the CCNP recet test two weeks ago and passed with
 not too much
 studying -- used boson test to see my weak areas and just
 brushed up on
 those areas -- hint -- you can use the same study materials you
 used three
 years ago -- nothing has changed.

I wouldn't recommend just using the same material as 3 years ago. There
are
some new topics, like IS-IS for Routing and multilayer switching for
Switching. Support and Remote Access seemed to be pretty similar, but
those
other two were pretty different from 3 years ago, at least in my test. I
found it to be a two-Tums-package test for sure, depsite a good score in
the
end.

 
 as to the answer to your questions, my experience has been that
 you should
 go directly to cisco with these questions so you have a

I defintely agree there. Go to Cisco. Even if we give you an answer, the
Authoritative Bit will not be set. :-) That won't stop me though from
adding
a few more comments below

 documented answer
 when they change their mind later on ;-)
 
 d
 
 
 John Cianfarani  wrote in message
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  I have to recert my CCNP by the 21st of this month.  (yeah I
 know I left
  it late, but I was busy upgrading my CSS1 to CCSP).
 
  I notice they have a new test coming out ( 642-891 ) Called
 Composite
  which is based on BSCI and BCMSN, which will also let you
 recert your
  CCNP and CCDP with at the same time.  Now that test doesn't
 come out
  until Aug 7th.  Anyone know if there is still a Beta of this
 exam
  available to write?  

I don't think they ever did a beta for that new composite exam that
suddenly
popped up? Maybe it will still come out?

Or if Writing BSCI / BCMSN is equivalent?

I doubt you can just write BSCI and BCMSN to get recertified.

 
  Also anyone know a way extended you recert date maybe by
 writing a
  current CCNP exam or something or am I just gonna have to
 buckle down
  and write the 640-851 CCNP Recert exam?

Just do it. It's not that painful. :-) And I think it's your only
option.
Ask Cisco and check your tracking info to be sure. Good luck!

Priscilla


 
  Thanks!
  John




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