Re: [c-nsp] TAC hits a new record level of aggravation...
On 11/3/2013 1:41 AM, Dobbins, Roland wrote: On Nov 3, 2013, at 12:08 PM, Jeff Kell jeff-k...@utc.edu wrote: If enough of us complain... maybe. Plenty of people inside and outside of Cisco have complained vociferously, to no avail. It's unlikely to change. Maybe we should all go back to the phone call interface. Will probably get Bangalore, but who knows. Refuse the web garbage :) Or email? Make them call you? Again... Bangalore... oh well... Customer support died a decade ago. Jeff ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] TAC hits a new record level of aggravation...
On Sunday, November 03, 2013 07:28:18 AM John Neiberger wrote: It was in beta for months before they released it publicly. I think the current version is vastly better than when I first saw it. But I guess they didn't have any Mac users in the beta. :) Of course, no one at Cisco uses a Mac :-). Mark. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] TAC hits a new record level of aggravation...
On Sunday, November 03, 2013 07:52:33 AM Jeff Kell wrote: Maybe we should all go back to the phone call interface. Will probably get Bangalore, but who knows. Refuse the web garbage :) Make every case a Priority 1 case (call if you the description command on your CLI fails, as a P1 log) - maybe they'll get the point (probably not). Mark. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] TAC hits a new record level of aggravation...
Hi, On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 09:20:07PM -0600, Alex Presse wrote: It's the new java update - unsigned code gets user verification windows. Cisco (and everybody else) will need to update all their java delivered user interfaces to avoid this annoyance. Why on earth does enter information for opening a TAC case need *Java* anyway? gert -- //www.muc.de/~gert/ Gert Doering - Munich, Germany g...@greenie.muc.de fax: +49-89-35655025g...@net.informatik.tu-muenchen.de pgpf0UHr_oPUE.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] ME3600 QoS
Hi Adam, Update on the issues reported for LACP, LACP QOS - Planned for July 2014. “multicast ingress to port-channel punted to CPU” - Fixed in 15.3(3)S1 and available on Cisco.com BFD with ASR9K - ASR9K BFD over Bundle feature has gone through changes in 4.3.0 or later builds and hence customers might end up seeing change in LACP behavior. Trick For running BFD over logical Bundle, • Need to add configuration to enable at least one LC with ASR9K bfd multipath include location Configuration: ASR9K :- === RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:ASR9k-SIIT#sh run int g0/2/0/39 Mon Oct 21 12:38:07.815 UTC interface GigabitEthernet0/2/0/39 description connected to gig0/4 on W2-UPE bundle id 21 mode active negotiation auto transceiver permit pid all ! RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:ASR9k-SIIT# RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:ASR9k-SIIT#sh run int bundle-eth 21 Mon Oct 21 12:39:14.517 UTC interface Bundle-Ether21 ipv4 address 21.21.21.1 255.255.255.0 ! RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:ASR9k-SIIT# RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:ASR9k-SIIT#sh run bfd Mon Oct 21 12:39:37.508 UTC bfd interface Bundle-Ether21 echo disable ! multipath include location 0/2/CPU0 ! RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:ASR9k-SIIT# RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:ASR9k-SIIT#sh bundle brief Mon Oct 21 12:49:27.951 UTC Name | IG | State | LACP | BFD | Links | Local b/w, | | | | | | act/stby/cfgd |kbps| ---|--|---|--|-|---|| BE11 - DownOffOff 0 / 0 / 00 BE17 - Up On Off 1 / 0 / 1 100 BE21 - Up On Off 1 / 0 / 1 100 BE22 - DownOffOff 0 / 0 / 00 BE36 1 DownOn Off 0 / 0 / 10 RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:ASR9k-SIIT#sh ospf neighbor Mon Oct 21 12:46:12.731 UTC * Indicates MADJ interface Neighbors for OSPF 21 Neighbor ID Pri State Dead Time Address Interface 132.30.30.1 1 FULL/DR 00:00:3521.21.21.2 Bundle-Ether21 Neighbor is up for 00:52:58 222.22.24.221 FULL/DR 00:00:3922.22.22.2 GigabitEthernet0/2/0/11 Neighbor is up for 01:31:18 Total neighbor count: 2 RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:ASR9k-SIIT#sh bfd session | i BE Mon Oct 21 12:46:44.987 UTC BE2121.21.21.2 0s(0s*0) 300ms(100ms*3) UP RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:ASR9k-SIIT# RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:ASR9k-SIIT#sh bfd session detail interface bundle-ether 21 Mon Oct 21 12:48:14.367 UTC I/f: Bundle-Ether21, Location: 0/2/CPU0 Dest: 21.21.21.2 Src: 21.21.21.1 State: UP for 0d:0h:5m:19s, number of times UP: 2 Session type: SW/V4/SH/BL Received parameters: Version: 1, desired tx interval: 100 ms, required rx interval: 100 ms Required echo rx interval: 0 us, multiplier: 3, diag: None My discr: 8, your discr: 65537, state UP, D/F/P/C/A: 0/0/0/1/0 Transmitted parameters: Version: 1, desired tx interval: 100 ms, required rx interval: 100 ms Required echo rx interval: 0 us, multiplier: 3, diag: None My discr: 65537, your discr: 8, state UP, D/F/P/C/A: 0/0/0/1/0 Timer Values: Local negotiated async tx interval: 100 ms Remote negotiated async tx interval: 100 ms Desired echo tx interval: 0 s, local negotiated echo tx interval: 0 s Echo detection time: 0 s(0 s*3), async detection time: 300 ms(100 ms*3) Label: Internal label: 17328/0x43b0 Local Stats: Intervals between async packets: Tx: Number of intervals=100, min=86 ms, max=103 ms, avg=93 ms Last packet transmitted 67 ms ago Rx: Number of intervals=100, min=76 ms, max=77 ms, avg=76 ms Last packet received 67 ms ago Intervals between echo packets: Tx: Number of intervals=0, min=0 s, max=0 s, avg=0 s Last packet transmitted 0 s ago Rx: Number of intervals=0, min=0 s, max=0 s, avg=0 s Last packet received 0 s ago Latency of echo packets (time between tx and rx): Number of packets: 0, min=0 us, max=0 us, avg=0 us MP download state: BFD_MP_DOWNLOAD_ACK State change time: Oct 21 12:09:50.537 Session owner information: Desired Adjusted Client Interval Multiplier Interval Multiplier - - ospf-21 100 ms 3 100 ms 3 RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:ASR9k-SIIT# RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:ASR9k-SIIT# RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:ASR9k-SIIT#sh ve Mon Oct 21 13:11:49.795 UTC Cisco IOS XR Software, Version 4.3.2.30I[Default] Copyright (c) 2013 by Cisco Systems, Inc. ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 1.04(20100216:021454) [ASR9K ROMMON], ASR9k-SIIT uptime is 3 hours, 1 minute System image file is bootflash:disk0/asr9k-os-mbi-4.3.2.30I/0x10/mbiasr9k-rp.vm cisco ASR9K Series (MPC8641D) processor with 4194304K bytes of memory. MPC8641D processor at 1333MHz, Revision 2.2 ASR-9006 AC Chassis 2 Management Ethernet 4 DWDM controller(s) 4 TenGigE 4 WANPHY controller(s) 40
[c-nsp] Strange IP address
Hi all I was working on a test LAB on GNS3 , the Lab contains both IPv4 and IPv6 with different routing protocolsThe starnge issue is that when I issue the show ip bgp on one of the routers I find the IP address 32.1.1.146 as a next-hopdid anyone face this before ? ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] TAC hits a new record level of aggravation...
I thought that by clicking each warning it was just a hidden way to authorize Obama to spy your network issue LMAO ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] Configuring Multiple Cisco Devices
I use Solarwinds NCM On 31 October 2013 12:02, Ahmet Uncu uncuah...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I need to configure about 300 cisco routers/switches same time. Could you offer me a free software that can do this?IT looks like ciscocmd can do this, but it has lack of documentation since I am not familiar with linux, I wasnt able to run this tool. Thanks ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] Configuring Multiple Cisco Devices
Since when was that free? -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] Configuring Multiple Cisco Devices
Since I didn't read the email properly, it's very good though. On 3 November 2013 11:09, Alan Buxey a.l.m.bu...@lboro.ac.uk wrote: Since when was that free? -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] TAC hits a new record level of aggravation...
It's not just the TAC tool that has been suck-ified. The replacement for the dynamic configuration tool sucks. Tried it a few days ago, first thing it asks for is a whole bunch of customer info. I just wanted to verify if there is a non-EOS OC-3 POS that would work with a 6500. Painful. Today it crashes when I find what I think is the right link. Then the replacement for Software Advisor is Software Research. It takes looking around to find that Research doesn't cover many devices, and you eventually find a link to the old software advisor. Chuck -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Mark Tinka Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 1:09 AM To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] TAC hits a new record level of aggravation... On Sunday, November 03, 2013 07:52:33 AM Jeff Kell wrote: Maybe we should all go back to the phone call interface. Will probably get Bangalore, but who knows. Refuse the web garbage :) Make every case a Priority 1 case (call if you the description command on your CLI fails, as a P1 log) - maybe they'll get the point (probably not). Mark. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] Strange IP address
Hi, Hi all I was working on a test LAB on GNS3 , the Lab contains both IPv4 and IPv6 with different routing protocolsThe starnge issue is that when I issue the show ip bgp on one of the routers I find the IP address 32.1.1.146 as a next-hopdid anyone face this before ? Can you show your config? I suspect you are sending IPv6 routes to an IPv4 BGP neighbour or vice versa. Converting your IPv4 address to hex: - 32 = 0x20 - 1 = 0x01 - 1 = 0x01 - 146 = 0x92 It wouldn't surprise me if one of your IPv6 addresses starts with 2001:0192: (which would be in the IANA reserved block for protocol assignments) Cheers, Sander ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] Strange IP address
Hi Sander and thanks for the replyI actually converted the numbers into hexadecimal , and am running dual stacked network IPv4 and IPv6but how am going to block this IP address from appearing in the show ip bgp output ? Thanks again Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Strange IP address From: san...@steffann.nl Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2013 14:35:07 +0100 CC: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net To: gunner_...@live.com Hi, Hi all I was working on a test LAB on GNS3 , the Lab contains both IPv4 and IPv6 with different routing protocolsThe starnge issue is that when I issue the show ip bgp on one of the routers I find the IP address 32.1.1.146 as a next-hopdid anyone face this before ? Can you show your config? I suspect you are sending IPv6 routes to an IPv4 BGP neighbour or vice versa. Converting your IPv4 address to hex: - 32 = 0x20 - 1 = 0x01 - 1 = 0x01 - 146 = 0x92 It wouldn't surprise me if one of your IPv6 addresses starts with 2001:0192: (which would be in the IANA reserved block for protocol assignments) Cheers, Sander ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] Strange IP address
Hi, Hi Sander and thanks for the reply I actually converted the numbers into hexadecimal , and am running dual stacked network IPv4 and IPv6 but how am going to block this IP address from appearing in the show ip bgp output ? Same answer as before: Can you show your config? I don't really feel like guessing what you are doing. Sander ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] Strange IP address
This is a bug. Cisco has lots of these and I've seen this many times before. Open a case or email your account team to have it reported and fixed. Jared Mauch On Nov 3, 2013, at 4:09 AM, M K gunner_...@live.com wrote: Hi all I was working on a test LAB on GNS3 , the Lab contains both IPv4 and IPv6 with different routing protocolsThe starnge issue is that when I issue the show ip bgp on one of the routers I find the IP address 32.1.1.146 as a next-hopdid anyone face this before ? ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] TAC hits a new record level of aggravation...
On 11/3/2013 7:46 AM, Chuck Church wrote: It's not just the TAC tool that has been suck-ified. The replacement for the dynamic configuration tool sucks. Tried it a few days ago, first thing it asks for is a whole bunch of customer info. I just wanted to verify if there is a non-EOS OC-3 POS that would work with a 6500. Painful. Today it crashes when I find what I think is the right link. Then the replacement for Software Advisor is Software Research. It takes looking around to find that Research doesn't cover many devices, and you eventually find a link to the old software advisor. My colleague in our data center systems group was working on a UCS configuration, and the page was kicking out some blocks on our TippingPoint because of some ungodly obfuscated javascript, and I had to apply an exception to let him load the tool. I wish//I had kept a copy of the page source element that was triggering it... it was a real WTF?? moment. Jeff ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] TAC hits a new record level of aggravation...
On Sun, 3 Nov 2013, Dobbins, Roland wrote: On Nov 3, 2013, at 7:29 AM, Justin M. Streiner strei...@cluebyfour.org wrote: It would be great if Cisco focus-group tested these 'enhancements' before rolling them out, and knock it off with the Java nonsense. They've been going in this direction for the last 10 years - it's doubtful that anything's going to change. That's a shame. I don't understand the need to replace something that worked reliably with something that doesn't solely because it's 'sexy' (no, really, it isn't...) or web-2.0-y. jms ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] TAC hits a new record level of aggravation...
On Sun, 3 Nov 2013, Jeff Kell wrote: Customer support died a decade ago. For the front-end stuff, sure. To be fair, and to give credit where credit is due, I have dealt with some TAC engineers who have been incredibly helpful, professional, and responsive. For the things I generally reach out to TAC for, it seems like the level of response I've gotten recently has improved a bit from, say, two years ago. jms ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
[c-nsp] DFC bootflash?
What is DFC bootflash for? #dir dfc#3-bootflash:/ No files in directory on the other card it just reports error when I try to show the DFC bootflash and it's not reporting the size of DFC bootflash When I tried to upgrade the rommon on the WS-X6704-10GE with DFC3BXL, one card reported error because it does not have DFC bootflash while the other one with DFC bootflash finished upgrading successfully. These 2 line cards have different revision numbers. But so far the card without DFC bootflash is functional. Does it need a RMA at some point? ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] Strange IP address
Hi, There¹s at least two alternatives you can use. You either need to use a route-map under AF ipv4 to change the next-hop explicitly for the ipv4 prefixes or you can run a separate session for v4 ad v6 prefixes respectively. The latter is generally recommended. Regards Harold Le 2013-11-03 08:54, « M K » gunner_...@live.com a écrit : Hi Sander and thanks for the replyI actually converted the numbers into hexadecimal , and am running dual stacked network IPv4 and IPv6but how am going to block this IP address from appearing in the show ip bgp output ? Thanks again Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Strange IP address From: san...@steffann.nl Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2013 14:35:07 +0100 CC: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net To: gunner_...@live.com Hi, Hi all I was working on a test LAB on GNS3 , the Lab contains both IPv4 and IPv6 with different routing protocolsThe starnge issue is that when I issue the show ip bgp on one of the routers I find the IP address 32.1.1.146 as a next-hopdid anyone face this before ? Can you show your config? I suspect you are sending IPv6 routes to an IPv4 BGP neighbour or vice versa. Converting your IPv4 address to hex: - 32 = 0x20 - 1 = 0x01 - 1 = 0x01 - 146 = 0x92 It wouldn't surprise me if one of your IPv6 addresses starts with 2001:0192: (which would be in the IANA reserved block for protocol assignments) Cheers, Sander ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
[c-nsp] Menu in Cisco
Hello, I am working on a Cisco 3750X switch and have noticed that the menu command isn't available with IOS versions 12.2 as well as 15.2 I am trying to set up a few simple commands as Menu options. Is there any other simple way to do it, with the Menu command not being available? *Ali Sumsam * *Network Engineer - Level 3* eintellego Pty Ltd a...@eintellego.net ; www.eintellego.net Phone: 1300 753 383 ; Fax: (+612) 8572 9954 Cell +61 (0)410 603 531 facebook.com/eintellego PO Box 7726, Baulkham Hills, NSW 1755 Australia The Experts Who The Experts Call Juniper - Cisco – Brocade - IBM ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] Menu in Cisco
Take a look at EMM - Embedded Menu Manager (not to confuse with EEM) http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/netmgmt/configuration/guide/nm_emm_ps6441_TSD_Products_Configuration_Guide_Chapter.html Arie -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ali Sumsam Sent: Sunday, November 3, 2013 18:02 PM To: cisco-nsp NSP Subject: [c-nsp] Menu in Cisco Hello, I am working on a Cisco 3750X switch and have noticed that the menu command isn't available with IOS versions 12.2 as well as 15.2 I am trying to set up a few simple commands as Menu options. Is there any other simple way to do it, with the Menu command not being available? *Ali Sumsam * *Network Engineer - Level 3* eintellego Pty Ltd a...@eintellego.net ; www.eintellego.net Phone: 1300 753 383 ; Fax: (+612) 8572 9954 Cell +61 (0)410 603 531 facebook.com/eintellego PO Box 7726, Baulkham Hills, NSW 1755 Australia The Experts Who The Experts Call Juniper - Cisco - Brocade - IBM ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] ip tcp adjust-mss
Thanks Pete!!! We are using ASR 1001 series , can configure but I want to make sure before doing it On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 1:53 AM, Pete Lumbis alum...@gmail.com wrote: Most platforms can't do this in hardware and have to punt the SYN and/or SYN/ACK packets. Use caution at scale On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Methsri Wickramarathna mmethw2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all , Is it wise to use ip tcp adjust-mss on a ISP gateway router ??? -- -- ´`_,,,_ ___´$$$`_´$$$` `$$$`__,,,,___´´ _`$$$`´$$`_´$$`´$´ __`$$$`_´$`_´$`__´$$$´ ___`$$$_$$$_$$$_´$$$´_ `$$_$$$_$$$`´$$´_ ___,,__`$$_$$$_$$$_$$´_ _´$``$$_$$$_$$$_$$´_ ´$`´$$$_$$$_$$$_$´_ ´$$_$$$_$$$_$´_ ___`$$$_$$$_$$_$$´_ __`$_$__$$_$$_$$´_ ___`,___,,_,$´_ _`$´_ __`$$$´_ `´_ ___`´_ ~~( ŊëŌ )~~ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ -- -- ´`_,,,_ ___´$$$`_´$$$` `$$$`__,,,,___´´ _`$$$`´$$`_´$$`´$´ __`$$$`_´$`_´$`__´$$$´ ___`$$$_$$$_$$$_´$$$´_ `$$_$$$_$$$`´$$´_ ___,,__`$$_$$$_$$$_$$´_ _´$``$$_$$$_$$$_$$´_ ´$`´$$$_$$$_$$$_$´_ ´$$_$$$_$$$_$´_ ___`$$$_$$$_$$_$$´_ __`$_$__$$_$$_$$´_ ___`,___,,_,$´_ _`$´_ __`$$$´_ `´_ ___`´_ ~~( ŊëŌ )~~ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
