Re: `remove-ns' prevents namespace from being reloaded by `require' in clj 1.5.1 and 1.6
Hello, Le mardi 23 septembre 2014, Stuart Sierra the.stuart.sie...@gmail.com a écrit : I'm not sure I understand what you mean. `remove-ns` does not remove the namespace from the set of loaded namespaces kept by `require`. tools.namespace https://github.com/clojure/tools.namespace has a hack https://github.com/clojure/tools.namespace/blob/a166936bd757b71348c7c1608569fc0fcb1318bd/src/main/clojure/clojure/tools/namespace/reload.clj#L19 to work around this. Can this be fixed for clojure 1.7 (integrate clojure.namespace hack into 'remove-ns)? Or is there a reason I can't see right now in favor of the current behavior? But `require ... :reload` should still work. -S On Monday, September 22, 2014 10:04:49 AM UTC-4, Daniel König wrote: Hi, after removing a namespace with the remove-ns form, I am not able to require it a second time. From what I can tell, I should be able to reload a namespace after removing it. This behaviour was found in Clojure 1.5.1 and Clojure 1.6. Example: = (require 'config :reload) nil = (remove-ns 'config) #Namespace config = (require 'config :reload) nil = (remove-ns 'config) nil Is this intentional or can it be considered broken? Best regards, Daniel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','clojure@googlegroups.com'); Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','clojure%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com'); For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','clojure%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com');. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Laurent Petit -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: `remove-ns' prevents namespace from being reloaded by `require' in clj 1.5.1 and 1.6
laurent.pe...@gmail.com writes: Le mardi 23 septembre 2014, Stuart Sierra the.stuart.sie...@gmail.com a écrit : I'm not sure I understand what you mean. `remove-ns` does not remove the namespace from the set of loaded namespaces kept by `require`. tools.namespace https://github.com/clojure/tools.namespace has a hack https://github.com/clojure/tools.namespace/blob/a166936bd757b71348c7c1608569fc0fcb1318bd/src/main/clojure/clojure/tools/namespace/reload.clj#L19 to work around this. Can this be fixed for clojure 1.7 (integrate clojure.namespace hack into 'remove-ns)? Or is there a reason I can't see right now in favor of the current behavior? Or a new function added, e.g. `unload-ns`, that combines remove-ns with updating the ref. Hugo signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: `remove-ns' prevents namespace from being reloaded by `require' in clj 1.5.1 and 1.6
2014-09-23 12:53 GMT+02:00 Hugo Duncan duncan.h...@gmail.com: laurent.pe...@gmail.com writes: Le mardi 23 septembre 2014, Stuart Sierra the.stuart.sie...@gmail.com a écrit : I'm not sure I understand what you mean. `remove-ns` does not remove the namespace from the set of loaded namespaces kept by `require`. tools.namespace https://github.com/clojure/tools.namespace has a hack https://github.com/clojure/tools.namespace/blob/a166936bd757b71348c7c1608569fc0fcb1318bd/src/main/clojure/clojure/tools/namespace/reload.clj#L19 to work around this. Can this be fixed for clojure 1.7 (integrate clojure.namespace hack into 'remove-ns)? Or is there a reason I can't see right now in favor of the current behavior? Or a new function added, e.g. `unload-ns`, that combines remove-ns with updating the ref. Yeah, sure. Just a question so my understanding levels up: are there usecases where one would use the current behavior of removing a namespace not also removing it from *loaded-libs* (and thus preventing it from being required without :reload) ? Hugo -- Laurent Petit -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: `remove-ns' prevents namespace from being reloaded by `require' in clj 1.5.1 and 1.6
laurent.pe...@gmail.com writes: Just a question so my understanding levels up: are there usecases where one would use the current behavior of removing a namespace not also removing it from *loaded-libs* (and thus preventing it from being required without :reload) ? You can create namespaces without touching `require`, so I think it is reasonable to expect you can remove them too, without any side effects that will affect what `require` does. Hugo signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: `remove-ns' prevents namespace from being reloaded by `require' in clj 1.5.1 and 1.6
Le mardi 23 septembre 2014, Hugo Duncan duncan.h...@gmail.com a écrit : laurent.pe...@gmail.com javascript:; writes: Just a question so my understanding levels up: are there usecases where one would use the current behavior of removing a namespace not also removing it from *loaded-libs* (and thus preventing it from being required without :reload) ? You can create namespaces without touching `require`, so I think it is reasonable to expect you can remove them too, without any side effects that will affect what `require` does. *sigh* all this ns / lib dichotomy seems so unnecessarily complex Hugo -- Laurent Petit -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: `remove-ns' prevents namespace from being reloaded by `require' in clj 1.5.1 and 1.6
I think it is broken, and I think I know who the culprit may be (me). Before 1.5.1 (I guess), it was impossible to do things like that from e.g. a live repl session: (ns a) (ns b (:require a)) because somehow the filesystem for ns a would be checked, no file found. So a check was added to see whether ns a is already loaded or not, and if already loaded, not try to reach for the filesystem. It's weird, because I think I had checked that it wouldn't affect :reload / :reload-all options, and all unit tests passed at that time. 2014-09-22 16:04 GMT+02:00 Daniel König perpl...@gmail.com: Hi, after removing a namespace with the remove-ns form, I am not able to require it a second time. From what I can tell, I should be able to reload a namespace after removing it. This behaviour was found in Clojure 1.5.1 and Clojure 1.6. Example: = (require 'config :reload) nil = (remove-ns 'config) #Namespace config = (require 'config :reload) nil = (remove-ns 'config) nil Is this intentional or can it be considered broken? Best regards, Daniel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Laurent Petit -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: `remove-ns' prevents namespace from being reloaded by `require' in clj 1.5.1 and 1.6
I'm not sure I understand what you mean. `remove-ns` does not remove the namespace from the set of loaded namespaces kept by `require`. tools.namespace https://github.com/clojure/tools.namespace has a hack https://github.com/clojure/tools.namespace/blob/a166936bd757b71348c7c1608569fc0fcb1318bd/src/main/clojure/clojure/tools/namespace/reload.clj#L19 to work around this. But `require ... :reload` should still work. -S On Monday, September 22, 2014 10:04:49 AM UTC-4, Daniel König wrote: Hi, after removing a namespace with the remove-ns form, I am not able to require it a second time. From what I can tell, I should be able to reload a namespace after removing it. This behaviour was found in Clojure 1.5.1 and Clojure 1.6. Example: = (require 'config :reload) nil = (remove-ns 'config) #Namespace config = (require 'config :reload) nil = (remove-ns 'config) nil Is this intentional or can it be considered broken? Best regards, Daniel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
