Re: [CMake] How to support separate debug and release build directories?

2019-07-14 Thread Marc Herbert
>
>
>>  I am not finding it easy to find 'patterns' for these sort of issues. I
>> would have thought that configuring a project with separate debug and
>> release directories would be quite typical. But it's hard to find the
>> recommended way of doing such things.
>>
>
> It is typical:
> https://gitlab.kitware.com/cmake/community/wikis/FAQ#what-is-an-out-of-source-build
>
> In this case CMake doesn't recommend anything because it assumes this is
> implemented outside/on top of CMake
> https://cmake.org/cmake/help/latest/variable/CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE.html
>
>
Finally found it while looking for something else:
https://gitlab.kitware.com/cmake/community/wikis/FAQ#how-can-i-build-multiple-modes-without-switching-
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Re: [CMake] How to support separate debug and release build directories?

2019-07-14 Thread Marc Herbert
Le ven. 21 juin 2019 à 11:40, Michael Jackson 
a écrit :

>
>   cd Foo
>
>mkdir Debug && cd Debug
>
>cmake -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug ../
>
>make -j
>
>
>
> We have just created a Debug build in the Debug Directory. Now, the same
> is analogous for the Release build.
>
>
>
> Cd Foo
>
> Mkdir Release && cd Release
>
> Cmake -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release ../
>
> Make -j
>
>
>

Or, from CMake 3.13, simpler:

cd foo
cmake -B release/ -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release
cmake -B debug/ -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug
make -j -C build & make -j -C debug



>  I am not finding it easy to find 'patterns' for these sort of issues. I
> would have thought that configuring a project with separate debug and
> release directories would be quite typical. But it's hard to find the
> recommended way of doing such things.
>

It is typical:
https://gitlab.kitware.com/cmake/community/wikis/FAQ#what-is-an-out-of-source-build

In this case CMake doesn't recommend anything because it assumes this is
implemented outside/on top of CMake
https://cmake.org/cmake/help/latest/variable/CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE.html

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Re: [CMake] How to support separate debug and release build directories?

2019-06-24 Thread David Aldrich
>
> David,
>
> I think a bit more explanation of the philosophy (at least how I
> interpret it) is needed. I see in your emails that you are “targeting
> makefiles”. With CMake you need to really stop thinking this way. Rarely do
> you need to target any specific build system (although those times do come
> up…). A lot of folks I see coming from autoconf to CMake still try to treat
> CMake in the same way. Don’t. There are a few golden rules with CMake that
> if you adhere to those will allow you to use CMake much easier.
>
>
>
> 1: NEVER have the Source directory and the Build directory be the same
> place.
>
> 2: PREFER out-of-source build directories (Not required but helpful)
>
> 3: Try not to target specific generators (makefiles, visual studio, xcode)
>
> 
>

Hi Michael

Thanks very much for your reply and explanation. As a result, I now have
the separate Debug/Release build subdirectories working correctly.

Best regards

David
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Re: [CMake] How to support separate debug and release build directories?

2019-06-21 Thread Michael Jackson
David, 

I think a bit more explanation of the philosophy (at least how I interpret 
it) is needed. I see in your emails that you are “targeting makefiles”. With 
CMake you need to really stop thinking this way. Rarely do you need to target 
any specific build system (although those times do come up…). A lot of folks I 
see coming from autoconf to CMake still try to treat CMake in the same way. 
Don’t. There are a few golden rules with CMake that if you adhere to those will 
allow you to use CMake much easier.

 

1: NEVER have the Source directory and the Build directory be the same place.

2: PREFER out-of-source build directories (Not required but helpful)

3: Try not to target specific generators (makefiles, visual studio, xcode)

 

What this looks like is the following. Say I have a project from github called 
Foo and I clone it onto my local filesystem. From a command line perspective 
you get the following:

 

Git clone https://github.com/somebody/Foo

 

The *Preferred* way is this

Clone Foo

*At the same directory level as Foo*

Mkdir Debug && cd Debug

Cmake -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release ../Foo

 

 

# We can break rule 2 a bit by making subdirectories inside of Foo

   cd Foo

   mkdir Debug && cd Debug

   cmake -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug ../

   make -j

 

We have just created a Debug build in the Debug Directory. Now, the same is 
analogous for the Release build.

 

Cd Foo

Mkdir Release && cd Release

Cmake -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release ../

Make -j

 

*IF* you make these subdirectories in a source code top level be sure to add 
those directory names to the .gitignore file.

 

If your cmake is written properly then the build creates NOTHING inside of the 
source directory.

 

I hope this helps summarize all of the other emails. Glad to have you in the 
CMake community.

 

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Mike Jackson 

 

From: CMake  on behalf of David Aldrich 

Date: Friday, June 21, 2019 at 12:10 PM
To: Braden McDaniel 
Cc: CMake 
Subject: Re: [CMake] How to support separate debug and release build 
directories?

 

> What would best practice be to provide convenient commands for our
> developers to easily build the target ?

For the Makefile generator, best practice is to use separate build
directories (i.e., places where you run cmake) for different
configurations (i.e., different settings recorded during the
configuration step).

If you want to provide developers with some known set(s) of
configuration settings, I suggest wrapper scripts that invoke cmake
with those settings.

Thanks for your advice. I am not finding it easy to find 'patterns' for these 
sort of issues. I would have thought that configuring a project with separate 
debug and release directories would be quite typical. But it's hard to find the 
recommended way of doing such things. Anyway, I think I am on the right track 
now.

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Re: [CMake] How to support separate debug and release build directories?

2019-06-21 Thread David Aldrich
>
> > What would best practice be to provide convenient commands for our
> > developers to easily build the target ?
>
> For the Makefile generator, best practice is to use separate build
> directories (i.e., places where you run cmake) for different
> configurations (i.e., different settings recorded during the
> configuration step).
>
> If you want to provide developers with some known set(s) of
> configuration settings, I suggest wrapper scripts that invoke cmake
> with those settings.
>
> Thanks for your advice. I am not finding it easy to find 'patterns' for
these sort of issues. I would have thought that configuring a project with
separate debug and release directories would be quite typical. But it's
hard to find the recommended way of doing such things. Anyway, I think I am
on the right track now.
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Re: [CMake] How to support separate debug and release build directories?

2019-06-21 Thread Braden McDaniel
On Fri, 2019-06-21 at 15:28 +0100, David Aldrich wrote:
> > > I would also like this to work if I use the make targets e.g.
> > make
> > > debug.
> > 
> > I think that's outside the scope of the Makefile generator.  For
> > that
> > generator, CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE is a configuration-wide setting.  If
> > you
> > want a different configuration, you need a different build
> > directory
> > (where "build directory" is wherever you run cmake).
> 
> If I don't use make targets (so that user can type 'make debug' etc)
> the build command would be more cumbersome:
> 
> cmake3 --build -D CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug .

Assuming that command actually triggers a reconfigure (when previously
configured with a different CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE), you'll most likely hose
incremental builds of the other build type(s).  (And if it doesn't
trigger a reconfigure in that case, it's pretty certainly not doing
what you want.)

> What would best practice be to provide convenient commands for our
> developers to easily build the target ?

For the Makefile generator, best practice is to use separate build
directories (i.e., places where you run cmake) for different
configurations (i.e., different settings recorded during the
configuration step).

If you want to provide developers with some known set(s) of
configuration settings, I suggest wrapper scripts that invoke cmake
with those settings.

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Re: [CMake] How to support separate debug and release build directories?

2019-06-21 Thread David Aldrich
>
> > I would also like this to work if I use the make targets e.g. make
> > debug.
>
> I think that's outside the scope of the Makefile generator.  For that
> generator, CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE is a configuration-wide setting.  If you
> want a different configuration, you need a different build directory
> (where "build directory" is wherever you run cmake).
>

If I don't use make targets (so that user can type 'make debug' etc) the
build command would be more cumbersome:

cmake3 --build -D CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug .

What would best practice be to provide convenient commands for our
developers to easily build the target ?
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Re: [CMake] How to support separate debug and release build directories?

2019-06-21 Thread Braden McDaniel
On Fri, 2019-06-21 at 14:19 +0100, David Aldrich wrote:
> Thanks for the help I have received in the past few days. I am making
> incremental improvements to my CMake project and have a new
> challenge.  I am running CMake 3.13 on Centos 7.6, targeting make. 
> My CMake file successfully builds debug or release targets and puts
> the executable in an out-of-source build directory.  I have added
> debug and release make targets so I can execute 'make debug' etc.
> 
> I now want to support separate target directories: build/debug and
> build/release.  I've shown my CMakeLists.txt below. So far I've just
> added an attempt to support build/debug:
> 
> if (CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE EQUAL "DEBUG")
> message("debug mode")
> set(CMAKE_RUNTIME_OUTPUT_DIRECTORY ${CMAKE_BINARY_DIR}/debug)
> endif (CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE EQUAL "DEBUG")
> 
> but:
> 
> $ cmake3 -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=DEBUG ..
> 
> puts the target into build, not build/debug.

The conventional solution to this is to run cmake in the "build/debug"
directory.

> I would also like this to work if I use the make targets e.g. make
> debug.

I think that's outside the scope of the Makefile generator.  For that
generator, CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE is a configuration-wide setting.  If you
want a different configuration, you need a different build directory
(where "build directory" is wherever you run cmake).

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Re: [CMake] How to support separate debug and release build directories?

2019-06-21 Thread David Demelier

Le 21/06/2019 à 15:42, David Aldrich a écrit :

Do never test CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE in CMakeLists.txt files, it is
ignored in
multiple generators (e.g. Visual Studio).

Does that mean I shouldn't have this in CMakeLists.txt? :

# Specify a Release build by default
if(NOT CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE)
   set(CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE "Release")
   message(STATUS "Build type not specified: Use Release by default")
endif(NOT CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE)


It may be handy if you're sure that the project will only use single 
generators tools (e.g. make, ninja) otherwise yes it's strongly advised 
to not touch/inspect CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE if your project can be build with 
any kind of generators.


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Re: [CMake] How to support separate debug and release build directories?

2019-06-21 Thread David Aldrich
>
> Do never test CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE in CMakeLists.txt files, it is ignored in
> multiple generators (e.g. Visual Studio).
>

Does that mean I shouldn't have this in CMakeLists.txt? :

# Specify a Release build by default
if(NOT CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE)
  set(CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE "Release")
  message(STATUS "Build type not specified: Use Release by default")
endif(NOT CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE)


>
> Just use the appropriate variables that contain suffixes regarding the
> configuration.
>
> e.g
>
> set(CMAKE_RUNTIME_OUTPUT_DIRECTORY_DEBUG ${CMAKE_BINARY_DIR}/debug)
> set(CMAKE_RUNTIME_OUTPUT_DIRECTORY_RELEASE ${CMAKE_BINARY_DIR}/release)
>
> See [0] for a list with _ variables.
>
> [0]: https://cmake.org/cmake/help/v3.15/manual/cmake-variables.7.html
>
> HTH
>

Thank you. That is working for me.
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Re: [CMake] How to support separate debug and release build directories?

2019-06-21 Thread David Demelier

Le 21/06/2019 à 15:19, David Aldrich a écrit :
I now want to support separate target directories: build/debug and 
build/release.  I've shown my CMakeLists.txt below. So far I've just 
added an attempt to support build/debug:


if (CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE EQUAL "DEBUG")
     message("debug mode")
     set(CMAKE_RUNTIME_OUTPUT_DIRECTORY ${CMAKE_BINARY_DIR}/debug)
endif (CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE EQUAL "DEBUG")



Do never test CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE in CMakeLists.txt files, it is ignored in 
multiple generators (e.g. Visual Studio).


Just use the appropriate variables that contain suffixes regarding the 
configuration.


e.g

set(CMAKE_RUNTIME_OUTPUT_DIRECTORY_DEBUG ${CMAKE_BINARY_DIR}/debug)
set(CMAKE_RUNTIME_OUTPUT_DIRECTORY_RELEASE ${CMAKE_BINARY_DIR}/release)

See [0] for a list with _ variables.

[0]: https://cmake.org/cmake/help/v3.15/manual/cmake-variables.7.html

HTH

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[CMake] How to support separate debug and release build directories?

2019-06-21 Thread David Aldrich
Thanks for the help I have received in the past few days. I am making
incremental improvements to my CMake project and have a new challenge.  I
am running CMake 3.13 on Centos 7.6, targeting make.  My CMake file
successfully builds debug or release targets and puts the executable in an
out-of-source build directory.  I have added debug and release make targets
so I can execute 'make debug' etc.

I now want to support separate target directories: build/debug and
build/release.  I've shown my CMakeLists.txt below. So far I've just added
an attempt to support build/debug:

if (CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE EQUAL "DEBUG")
message("debug mode")
set(CMAKE_RUNTIME_OUTPUT_DIRECTORY ${CMAKE_BINARY_DIR}/debug)
endif (CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE EQUAL "DEBUG")

but:

$ cmake3 -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=DEBUG ..

puts the target into build, not build/debug.

I would also like this to work if I use the make targets e.g. make debug.

Here's my full CMakeLists.txt.  Any advice would be appreciated.

cmake_minimum_required(VERSION 3.5 FATAL_ERROR)

if(NOT CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE)
  set(CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE "Release")
  message(STATUS "Build type not specified: Use Release by default")
endif(NOT CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE)

project(hello_world LANGUAGES CXX)# Among other things, this sets
PROJECT_NAME

add_executable(${PROJECT_NAME} "")

target_include_directories(${PROJECT_NAME}
PRIVATE
${CMAKE_CURRENT_SOURCE_DIR})

target_sources(${PROJECT_NAME}
  PRIVATE
main.cpp
Message.cpp)

ADD_CUSTOM_TARGET(debug
  COMMAND ${CMAKE_COMMAND} -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug ${CMAKE_SOURCE_DIR}
  COMMAND ${CMAKE_COMMAND} --build ${CMAKE_BINARY_DIR} --target all
  COMMENT "Creating the executable in the debug mode.")

ADD_CUSTOM_TARGET(release
  COMMAND ${CMAKE_COMMAND} -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release ${CMAKE_SOURCE_DIR}
  COMMAND ${CMAKE_COMMAND} --build ${CMAKE_BINARY_DIR} --target all
  COMMENT "Creating the executable in the release mode.")

if (CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE EQUAL "DEBUG")
message("debug mode")
set(CMAKE_RUNTIME_OUTPUT_DIRECTORY ${CMAKE_BINARY_DIR}/debug)
endif (CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE EQUAL "DEBUG")
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