Re: [cmake-developers] [MODERN] CMake 3.3 vs Qt 5.5 vs MSVC2015

[Konstantin Podsvirov]

Hi all! Modern master alive! :-)

It's been almost a month and it's time to upgrade:

3.3.20150901 CMake => CMake 3.3.20151001

Dear friends, I have a question and call for help.

With my assistance the project has an option for component installation project:

CMake_INSTALL_COMPONENTS

Unfortunately not all files found your component.
The files to be installed without specifying a component fall into 
'Unspecified' component.
Need to parse them out and assign them to the component context.

Now have the components:

- cmake;
- ctest;
- cpack;
- cmake-gui;
- sphinx-man;
- sphinx-html;
- sphinx singlehtml;
- sphinx-qthelp

and General for everything else

Is Unspecified;

A list of unaccounted for 'Unspecified' of files to install on the Window is 
attached.

Links to the installers were specified earlier (see below).


On 28.07.2015, 17:49, "Konstantin Podsvirov" :
> Hi dear CMake developers!
>
> 27.07.2015, 18:52, "Brad King" :
>> On 07/24/2015 03:46 AM, Konstantin Podsvirov wrote:
>>> To solve the problem you run cmake-gui is now possible with the
>>> the following changes:
>>
>> Applied as two separate commits with minor tweaks:
>>
>> cmake-gui: Install Qt5 Windows platform plugin
>> http://cmake.org/gitweb?p=cmake.git;a=commitdiff;h=42f0155b
>>
>> CMake: Add option CMake_INSTALL_DEPENDENCIES
>> http://cmake.org/gitweb?p=cmake.git;a=commitdiff;h=068e7962
>
> Code now in 'master' branch.
>
> Thanks, Brad!
>
> Meet/install/CMake built modern update on MSVC2015 c QtDialog based on Qt 5.5 
> from today :-)
>
> Windows 32bit:
>
> http://ifw.podsvirov.pro/cmake/cmake-master-win32-online.exe
>
> Windows 64bit:
>
> http://ifw.podsvirov.pro/cmake/cmake-master-win64-online.exe
>
> cmake-gui should work now, but if not, then update your system and install
>
> Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio 2015 from the link below:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=48145
>
> As always, questions and suggestions are welcome.

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bin/
doc/
share/
tree.txt

./bin:
cmcldeps.exe*
msvcp140.dll*
vcruntime140.dll*

./doc:
cmake-3.3/

./doc/cmake-3.3:
Copyright.txt
cmake.org.html
cmcompress/
cmcurl/
cmexpat/
cmlibarchive/
cmliblzma/
cmsys/
cmzlib/

./doc/cmake-3.3/cmcompress:
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./doc/cmake-3.3/cmcurl:
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./doc/cmake-3.3/cmexpat:
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./doc/cmake-3.3/cmlibarchive:
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./doc/cmake-3.3/cmliblzma:
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./doc/cmake-3.3/cmsys:
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./share/cmake-3.3:
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Modules/
Templates/
completions/
editors/
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./share/cmake-3.3/Help:
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manual/
module/
policy/
prop_cache/
prop_dir/
prop_gbl/
prop_inst/
prop_sf/
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set_tests_properties.rst
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target_compile_features.rst
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target_link_libraries.rst
target_sources.rst
try_compile.rst
try_run.rst
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Re: [cmake-developers] [MODERN] CMake 3.3 vs Qt 5.5 vs MSVC2015

[Konstantin Podsvirov]

Hi dear CMake developers!

27.07.2015, 18:52, Brad King brad.k...@kitware.com:
 On 07/24/2015 03:46 AM, Konstantin Podsvirov wrote:
  To solve the problem you run cmake-gui is now possible with the
  following changes:

 Applied as two separate commits with minor tweaks:

  cmake-gui: Install Qt5 Windows platform plugin
  http://cmake.org/gitweb?p=cmake.git;a=commitdiff;h=42f0155b

  CMake: Add CMake_INSTALL_DEPENDENCIES option
  http://cmake.org/gitweb?p=cmake.git;a=commitdiff;h=068e7962


Code now in 'master' branch.

Thanks, Brad!

Meet/install/update modern CMake built on MSVC2015 c QtDialog based on Qt 5.5 
from today :-)

Windows 32bit:

http://ifw.podsvirov.pro/cmake/cmake-master-win32-online.exe

Windows 64bit:

http://ifw.podsvirov.pro/cmake/cmake-master-win64-online.exe

cmake-gui should work now, but if not, then update your system and install

Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio 2015 from the link below:

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=48145

As always, questions and suggestions are welcome.

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Re: [cmake-developers] [MODERN] CMake 3.3 vs Qt 5.5 vs MSVC2015

[Brad King]

On 07/24/2015 03:46 AM, Konstantin Podsvirov wrote:
 To solve the problem you run cmake-gui is now possible with the
 following changes:

Applied as two separate commits with minor tweaks:

 cmake-gui: Install Qt5 Windows platform plugin
 http://cmake.org/gitweb?p=cmake.git;a=commitdiff;h=42f0155b

 CMake: Add CMake_INSTALL_DEPENDENCIES option
 http://cmake.org/gitweb?p=cmake.git;a=commitdiff;h=068e7962

Thanks,
-Brad

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Re: [cmake-developers] [MODERN] CMake 3.3 vs Qt 5.5 vs MSVC2015

[Konstantin Podsvirov]

Hi dear CMake developers!

Modern CMake requires modern platform!

To solve the problem you run cmake-gui is now possible with the following 
changes:

[PATCH]

CMake: Added option CMake_INSTALL_DEPENDENCIES

By default this option is ON
Turn OFF to disable installing runtime 3th dependencie

Addition QtDialog now installing on Windows platform plugin for Qt5

http://git.podsvirov.pro/?p=kitware/cmake.git;a=commitdiff;h=e955bd6783abdc1bf30a9e7c3d88bac3eb0acd60

Dear Brad, please consider the possibility of applying these changes.

Check out the work of these changes can on earlier installers.

cmake-gui should work now, but if not, then update your system and install

Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio 2015 from the link below:

 http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=48145

23.07.2015, 16:47, Konstantin Podsvirov konstan...@podsvirov.pro:
 Hi Ruslan and other developers!

 23.07.2015, 16:12, Ruslan Baratov ruslan_bara...@yahoo.com:
 On 23-Jul-15 12:32, Konstantin Podsvirov wrote:
 Hi dear CMake developers!

 Meet modern CMake built on MSVC2015 c QtDialog based on Qt 5.5 from today 
 :-)

 Windows 32bit:

 http://ifw.podsvirov.pro/cmake/cmake-master-win32-online.exe

 Windows 64bit:

 http://ifw.podsvirov.pro/cmake/cmake-master-win64-online.exe

 As always, questions and suggestions are welcome.

 --
 Regards,
 Konstantin Podsvirov

 Both versions can't start because dll is missing:
 api-ms-win-crt-runtime-l1-1-0.dll
 Win 7 x64

 Ruslan

 To solve the problem quickly, you need to install Visual C++ Redistributable 
 for Visual Studio 2015 from the link below:

 http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=48145

 Now more interesting :-)

 Outdoor platforms may not be Universal CRT:

 http://blogs.msdn.com/b/vcblog/archive/2015/03/03/introducing-the-universal-crt.aspx

 CMake uses the module InstallRequiredSystemLibraries to install 
 dependencies.
 Who is in charge here on this module? Should this module to install Universal 
 CRT
 (api-ms-win-crt-runtime-xxx.dll library) for MSVC14 ?

 --
 Regards,
 Konstantin Podsvirov

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Re: [cmake-developers] [MODERN] CMake 3.3 vs Qt 5.5 vs MSVC2015

[Ruslan Baratov via cmake-developers]

On 23-Jul-15 12:32, Konstantin Podsvirov wrote:

Hi dear CMake developers!

Meet modern CMake built on MSVC2015 c QtDialog based on Qt 5.5 from today :-)

Windows 32bit:

http://ifw.podsvirov.pro/cmake/cmake-master-win32-online.exe

Windows 64bit:

http://ifw.podsvirov.pro/cmake/cmake-master-win64-online.exe

As always, questions and suggestions are welcome.

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Both versions can't start because dll missing: 
api-ms-win-crt-runtime-l1-1-0.dll

Win 7 x64

Ruslan
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Re: [cmake-developers] [MODERN] CMake 3.3 vs Qt 5.5 vs MSVC2015

[Konstantin Podsvirov]

Hi Ruslan and other developers!

23.07.2015, 16:12, Ruslan Baratov ruslan_bara...@yahoo.com:
 On 23-Jul-15 12:32, Konstantin Podsvirov wrote:
 Hi dear CMake developers!

 Meet modern CMake built on MSVC2015 c QtDialog based on Qt 5.5 from today :-)

 Windows 32bit:

 http://ifw.podsvirov.pro/cmake/cmake-master-win32-online.exe

 Windows 64bit:

 http://ifw.podsvirov.pro/cmake/cmake-master-win64-online.exe

 As always, questions and suggestions are welcome.

 --
 Regards,
 Konstantin Podsvirov

 Both versions can't start because dll is missing:
 api-ms-win-crt-runtime-l1-1-0.dll
 Win 7 x64

 Ruslan

To solve the problem quickly, you need to install Visual C++ Redistributable 
for Visual Studio 2015 from the link below:

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=48145

Now more interesting :-)

Outdoor platforms may not be Universal CRT:

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/vcblog/archive/2015/03/03/introducing-the-universal-crt.aspx

CMake uses the module InstallRequiredSystemLibraries to install dependencies.
Who is in charge here on this module? Should this module to install Universal 
CRT
(api-ms-win-crt-runtime-xxx.dll library) for MSVC14 ?

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Re: [cmake-developers] [MODERN] CMake 3.3 vs Qt 5.5 vs MSVC2015

[Nils Gladitz]

On 07/23/2015 03:47 PM, Konstantin Podsvirov wrote:

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/vcblog/archive/2015/03/03/introducing-the-universal-crt.aspx

CMake uses the module InstallRequiredSystemLibraries to install dependencies.
Who is in charge here on this module? Should this module to install Universal 
CRT
(api-ms-win-crt-runtime-xxx.dll library) for MSVC14 ?


  6. App-local deployment of the Universal CRT is not supported.

I think that means installation should not be handled by 
InstallRequiredSystemLibraries.


You should probably just require users to run Windows Update.

Nils


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Re: [cmake-developers] [MODERN] CMake 3.3 vs Qt 5.5 vs MSVC2015

[Bill Hoffman]

On 7/23/2015 10:16 AM, Nils Gladitz wrote:

   6. App-local deployment of the Universal CRT is not supported.

I think that means installation should not be handled by
InstallRequiredSystemLibraries.

You should probably just require users to run Windows Update.
Yuck!   That will be a pain.  I think we will stay away from this for a 
while for the CMake distribution.


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Re: [cmake-developers] [MODERN] CMake 3.3 vs Qt 5.5 vs MSVC2015

[James Johnston]

 -Original Message-
 From: cmake-developers [mailto:cmake-developers-boun...@cmake.org]
 On Behalf Of Nils Gladitz
 
 On 07/23/2015 03:47 PM, Konstantin Podsvirov wrote:
  http://blogs.msdn.com/b/vcblog/archive/2015/03/03/introducing-the-univ
  ersal-crt.aspx
 
  CMake uses the module InstallRequiredSystemLibraries to install
 dependencies.
  Who is in charge here on this module? Should this module to install
  Universal CRT (api-ms-win-crt-runtime-xxx.dll library) for MSVC14 ?
 
6. App-local deployment of the Universal CRT is not supported.
 
 I think that means installation should not be handled by
 InstallRequiredSystemLibraries.
 
 You should probably just require users to run Windows Update.

That sounds horrible - asking a user to manually run Windows Update.  But
Windows Update packages don't have to be installed ONLY by way of visiting
Windows Update manually.

I have yet to mess with this stuff myself (but will be soon).  But in the
meantime, FTA:

Currently these MSU packages are installed as part of the VCRedist
installation. In a future build of Visual Studio 2015, these MSU packages
will also be distributed separately as part of the Universal CRT SDK and
made available for download on support.microsoft.com.

So you get this just by running VCRedist - or, if you don't use VCRedist,
you can get this by running the MSU packages directly (once said SDK becomes
available - if it isn't already available - the blog is 4 months old).  Both
can be accomplished as part of a setup program.  Unfortunately, I suspect
the MSU packages can't be invoked from / nested inside a Windows Installer
MSI like how the VC++ merge modules were done (and how we currently do); I
plan to hack apart VCRedist to try to see what they are doing...

Best regards,

James Johnston

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Re: [cmake-developers] [MODERN] CMake 3.3 vs Qt 5.5 vs MSVC2015

[Nils Gladitz]

On 23.07.2015 17:24, James Johnston wrote:

That sounds horrible - asking a user to manually run Windows Update.  But
Windows Update packages don't have to be installed ONLY by way of visiting
Windows Update manually.


The support issue is certainly cumbersome given that users will be told 
that some DLL that they haven't heard of before is missing rather than 
that they need to update an operating system component by running 
windows update.


But this will only be an issue for users which don't run windows = 10 
or which don't run regular updates (I'd have assumed this comes in 
through automated updates as well unless disabled?).


Given sufficient time this should therefor become a non-issue.

I rather think it is nice that this is considered an operating system 
component rather than a visual studio version specific runtime component 
(e.g. reduced application installer sizes and centralized updates) but 
this might work best if you also treat it as such (unless you 
specifically have to target e.g. outdated/unnetworked machines).


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Re: [cmake-developers] [MODERN] CMake 3.3 vs Qt 5.5 vs MSVC2015

[James Johnston]

 -Original Message-
 From: Nils Gladitz [mailto:nilsglad...@gmail.com]
 
 On 23.07.2015 17:24, James Johnston wrote:
  That sounds horrible - asking a user to manually run Windows Update.
  But Windows Update packages don't have to be installed ONLY by way of
  visiting Windows Update manually.
 
 But this will only be an issue for users which don't run windows = 10 or
 which don't run regular updates (I'd have assumed this comes in through
 automated updates as well unless disabled?).

Depends on if it is an important update or an optional update...

Or it may not show at all.  E.g. the legacy WinHelp MSU package is not
pushed via Windows Update at all, but if you want WinHelp, it's installed
via a manually-downloaded MSU package that you have to get from
Microsoft.com downloads.

I'm curious to find out which method they choose...

 I rather think it is nice that this is considered an operating system
component
 rather than a visual studio version specific runtime component (e.g.
reduced
 application installer sizes and centralized updates) but this might work
best if
 you also treat it as such (unless you specifically have to target e.g.
 outdated/unnetworked machines).

To me, this is the worst of both worlds.  Not only do we STILL have to
distribute the version-specific components (which are not part of the
universal CRT) as we always have since VS2005, we now have this MSU package
IN ADDITION that has to be installed for every configuration except static
runtime linking.

You still have the burden of redistributing the rest of the unstable
VS2015-specific runtime.  So it's not like you can wait 10 years for
adoption and stop worrying about any VS2015 redistributing runtime files at
all.

Bonus points if they find a way in Visual Studio 2020 to modify the
universal CRT and somehow cause breaking changes with VS2015, even though
they promised not to...  This was supposedly why the VS2005 CRT  newer are
side-by-side installed into winsxs - to fix DLL hell from the 1990s...

James

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[cmake-developers] [MODERN] CMake 3.3 vs Qt 5.5 vs MSVC2015

[Konstantin Podsvirov]

Hi dear CMake developers!

Meet modern CMake built on MSVC2015 c QtDialog based on Qt 5.5 from today :-)

Windows 32bit:

http://ifw.podsvirov.pro/cmake/cmake-master-win32-online.exe

Windows 64bit:

http://ifw.podsvirov.pro/cmake/cmake-master-win64-online.exe

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