Re: [CODE4LIB] Subject Terms in Institutional Repositories
Hi Stuart, For bullet point #2 below, how do you manage the workflow of the creative spelling correction. Is the correction handled manually or automatically, or somewhere in between? Thanks, Lisa - Elizabeth Lisa McAulay Librarian for Digital Collection Development UCLA Digital Library Program http://digital.library.ucla.edu/ email: emcaulay [at] library.ucla.edu From: Code for Libraries [CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] on behalf of stuart yeates [stuart.yea...@vuw.ac.nz] Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2013 1:36 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Subject Terms in Institutional Repositories I run the techie side of http://researcharchive.vuw.ac.nz/ and we use dc.subject: (*) We ask for at least three depositor-supplied keywords (*) When a depositor uses creative spelling in any of the depositor-supplied fields, we add standard spelling as a dc.subject (*) When any field uses non-English language terms we add an English term as a dc.subject (*) When any field uses English language terms to refer to non-English subjects, we add a dc.subject with the native-language term (*) We have some hacky stuff in vuwschema.subject.* which the DSpace development team have told use to keep hacky while they migrate to http://dublincore.org/documents/dcmi-terms/ in the next couple of releases. We'd love to have the resources to do proper subject classification, because it would be a huge enabler of deep interoperability. cheers stuart On 31/08/13 01:36, Matthew Sherman wrote: Sorry, I probably should have provided a bit more depth. It is a University Institutional Repository so we have a rather varied collection of materials from engineering to education to computer science to chiropractic to dental to some student theses and posters. So I guess I need to find something at is extensible. Does that provide a better idea or should I provide more info? On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Jacob Ratliff jaratlif...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Matt, It depends on the subject area of your repository. There are dozens of controlled vocabularies that exist (not including specific Enterprise Content Management controlled vocabularies). If you can describe your collection, people might be able to advise you better. Jacob Ratliff Archivist/Taxonomy Librarian National Fire Protection Association On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Matthew Sherman matt.r.sher...@gmail.comwrote: Hello Code4Libbers, I am working on cleaning up our institutional repository, and one of the big areas of improvement needed is the list of terms from the subject fields. It is messy and I want to take the subject terms and place them into a much better order. I was contemplating using Library of Congress Subject Headings, but I wanted to see what others have done in this area to see if there is another good controlled vocabulary that could work better. Any insight is welcome. Thanks for your time everyone. Matt Sherman Digital Content Librarian University of Bridgeport -- Stuart Yeates Library Technology Services http://www.victoria.ac.nz/library/
Re: [CODE4LIB] Subject Terms in Institutional Repositories
That's handled by staff with cataloguing training and disposition. cheers stuart On 03/09/13 05:24, McAulay, Elizabeth wrote: Hi Stuart, For bullet point #2 below, how do you manage the workflow of the creative spelling correction. Is the correction handled manually or automatically, or somewhere in between? Thanks, Lisa - Elizabeth Lisa McAulay Librarian for Digital Collection Development UCLA Digital Library Program http://digital.library.ucla.edu/ email: emcaulay [at] library.ucla.edu From: Code for Libraries [CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] on behalf of stuart yeates [stuart.yea...@vuw.ac.nz] Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2013 1:36 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Subject Terms in Institutional Repositories I run the techie side of http://researcharchive.vuw.ac.nz/ and we use dc.subject: (*) We ask for at least three depositor-supplied keywords (*) When a depositor uses creative spelling in any of the depositor-supplied fields, we add standard spelling as a dc.subject (*) When any field uses non-English language terms we add an English term as a dc.subject (*) When any field uses English language terms to refer to non-English subjects, we add a dc.subject with the native-language term (*) We have some hacky stuff in vuwschema.subject.* which the DSpace development team have told use to keep hacky while they migrate to http://dublincore.org/documents/dcmi-terms/ in the next couple of releases. We'd love to have the resources to do proper subject classification, because it would be a huge enabler of deep interoperability. cheers stuart On 31/08/13 01:36, Matthew Sherman wrote: Sorry, I probably should have provided a bit more depth. It is a University Institutional Repository so we have a rather varied collection of materials from engineering to education to computer science to chiropractic to dental to some student theses and posters. So I guess I need to find something at is extensible. Does that provide a better idea or should I provide more info? On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Jacob Ratliff jaratlif...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Matt, It depends on the subject area of your repository. There are dozens of controlled vocabularies that exist (not including specific Enterprise Content Management controlled vocabularies). If you can describe your collection, people might be able to advise you better. Jacob Ratliff Archivist/Taxonomy Librarian National Fire Protection Association On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Matthew Sherman matt.r.sher...@gmail.comwrote: Hello Code4Libbers, I am working on cleaning up our institutional repository, and one of the big areas of improvement needed is the list of terms from the subject fields. It is messy and I want to take the subject terms and place them into a much better order. I was contemplating using Library of Congress Subject Headings, but I wanted to see what others have done in this area to see if there is another good controlled vocabulary that could work better. Any insight is welcome. Thanks for your time everyone. Matt Sherman Digital Content Librarian University of Bridgeport -- Stuart Yeates Library Technology Services http://www.victoria.ac.nz/library/ -- Stuart Yeates Library Technology Services http://www.victoria.ac.nz/library/
Re: [CODE4LIB] Subject Terms in Institutional Repositories
I run the techie side of http://researcharchive.vuw.ac.nz/ and we use dc.subject: (*) We ask for at least three depositor-supplied keywords (*) When a depositor uses creative spelling in any of the depositor-supplied fields, we add standard spelling as a dc.subject (*) When any field uses non-English language terms we add an English term as a dc.subject (*) When any field uses English language terms to refer to non-English subjects, we add a dc.subject with the native-language term (*) We have some hacky stuff in vuwschema.subject.* which the DSpace development team have told use to keep hacky while they migrate to http://dublincore.org/documents/dcmi-terms/ in the next couple of releases. We'd love to have the resources to do proper subject classification, because it would be a huge enabler of deep interoperability. cheers stuart On 31/08/13 01:36, Matthew Sherman wrote: Sorry, I probably should have provided a bit more depth. It is a University Institutional Repository so we have a rather varied collection of materials from engineering to education to computer science to chiropractic to dental to some student theses and posters. So I guess I need to find something at is extensible. Does that provide a better idea or should I provide more info? On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Jacob Ratliff jaratlif...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Matt, It depends on the subject area of your repository. There are dozens of controlled vocabularies that exist (not including specific Enterprise Content Management controlled vocabularies). If you can describe your collection, people might be able to advise you better. Jacob Ratliff Archivist/Taxonomy Librarian National Fire Protection Association On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Matthew Sherman matt.r.sher...@gmail.comwrote: Hello Code4Libbers, I am working on cleaning up our institutional repository, and one of the big areas of improvement needed is the list of terms from the subject fields. It is messy and I want to take the subject terms and place them into a much better order. I was contemplating using Library of Congress Subject Headings, but I wanted to see what others have done in this area to see if there is another good controlled vocabulary that could work better. Any insight is welcome. Thanks for your time everyone. Matt Sherman Digital Content Librarian University of Bridgeport -- Stuart Yeates Library Technology Services http://www.victoria.ac.nz/library/
Re: [CODE4LIB] Subject Terms in Institutional Repositories
We also include keywords in our repository when the content provider supplies them. I didn't include it in my previous post because the OP asked about lists of terms and not free text, which our keywords are. Edward On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 10:25 PM, Michael J. Giarlo leftw...@alumni.rutgers.edu wrote: What Ross said, Shaun. We also allow users to key in free-text subjects, since LCSH is not everything to everyone. -Mike On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Shaun Ellis sha...@princeton.edu wrote: Mike, what do you mean when you say don't think in terms of LCSH? Is there some other vocabulary that they think in? If LCSH is the best option, the right interface may help them think in terms of LCSH. For example, auto-completion/suggestion of headings when tagging or searching might be necessary. -Shaun On 8/30/13 10:05 AM, Michael J. Giarlo wrote: We are using LCSH in our repository, but it hasn't been very widely used because our users, largely research faculty and staff, don't think in terms of LCSH. -Mike On Aug 30, 2013 9:28 AM, Matthew Sherman matt.r.sher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Code4Libbers, I am working on cleaning up our institutional repository, and one of the big areas of improvement needed is the list of terms from the subject fields. It is messy and I want to take the subject terms and place them into a much better order. I was contemplating using Library of Congress Subject Headings, but I wanted to see what others have done in this area to see if there is another good controlled vocabulary that could work better. Any insight is welcome. Thanks for your time everyone. Matt Sherman Digital Content Librarian University of Bridgeport
[CODE4LIB] Subject Terms in Institutional Repositories
Hello Code4Libbers, I am working on cleaning up our institutional repository, and one of the big areas of improvement needed is the list of terms from the subject fields. It is messy and I want to take the subject terms and place them into a much better order. I was contemplating using Library of Congress Subject Headings, but I wanted to see what others have done in this area to see if there is another good controlled vocabulary that could work better. Any insight is welcome. Thanks for your time everyone. Matt Sherman Digital Content Librarian University of Bridgeport
Re: [CODE4LIB] Subject Terms in Institutional Repositories
Hi Matt, It depends on the subject area of your repository. There are dozens of controlled vocabularies that exist (not including specific Enterprise Content Management controlled vocabularies). If you can describe your collection, people might be able to advise you better. Jacob Ratliff Archivist/Taxonomy Librarian National Fire Protection Association On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Matthew Sherman matt.r.sher...@gmail.comwrote: Hello Code4Libbers, I am working on cleaning up our institutional repository, and one of the big areas of improvement needed is the list of terms from the subject fields. It is messy and I want to take the subject terms and place them into a much better order. I was contemplating using Library of Congress Subject Headings, but I wanted to see what others have done in this area to see if there is another good controlled vocabulary that could work better. Any insight is welcome. Thanks for your time everyone. Matt Sherman Digital Content Librarian University of Bridgeport
Re: [CODE4LIB] Subject Terms in Institutional Repositories
Sorry, I probably should have provided a bit more depth. It is a University Institutional Repository so we have a rather varied collection of materials from engineering to education to computer science to chiropractic to dental to some student theses and posters. So I guess I need to find something at is extensible. Does that provide a better idea or should I provide more info? On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Jacob Ratliff jaratlif...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Matt, It depends on the subject area of your repository. There are dozens of controlled vocabularies that exist (not including specific Enterprise Content Management controlled vocabularies). If you can describe your collection, people might be able to advise you better. Jacob Ratliff Archivist/Taxonomy Librarian National Fire Protection Association On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Matthew Sherman matt.r.sher...@gmail.comwrote: Hello Code4Libbers, I am working on cleaning up our institutional repository, and one of the big areas of improvement needed is the list of terms from the subject fields. It is messy and I want to take the subject terms and place them into a much better order. I was contemplating using Library of Congress Subject Headings, but I wanted to see what others have done in this area to see if there is another good controlled vocabulary that could work better. Any insight is welcome. Thanks for your time everyone. Matt Sherman Digital Content Librarian University of Bridgeport
Re: [CODE4LIB] Subject Terms in Institutional Repositories
That does help, thanks. So, what you probably need to do then is take some time to strategically think about what you want the controlled vocabularies to accomplish, and what types of resources you have available to implement them. How granular do you want to be in each subject area? (e.g. Do you want to use MeSH https://www.nlm.nih.gov/mesh/ for all the medical information, or is that too detailed?) Are you just looking for cursory subject headings so that people can find a larger collection that they're looking for? (LoC could be good for this) Are you going to use a different controlled vocabulary for each collection? (e.g. MeSH for dentistry, LoC for general, etc.) Who is going to go back and re-tag all of the digital objects with new metadata? You can also look at www.taxonomywarehouse.com for some ideas of different controlled vocabularies that are available. I also recommend the Art and Architecture Thesaurus http://www.getty.edu/vow/AATSearchPage.jsp for art assets. Is this kind of what you're looking for? I highly recommend sitting down and defining what your goals are for the controlled vocabulary you want to implement, because that will inform that type of vocabulary you use. Jacob Ratliff Archivist/Taxonomy Librarian National Fire Protection Association On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Matthew Sherman matt.r.sher...@gmail.comwrote: Sorry, I probably should have provided a bit more depth. It is a University Institutional Repository so we have a rather varied collection of materials from engineering to education to computer science to chiropractic to dental to some student theses and posters. So I guess I need to find something at is extensible. Does that provide a better idea or should I provide more info? On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Jacob Ratliff jaratlif...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Matt, It depends on the subject area of your repository. There are dozens of controlled vocabularies that exist (not including specific Enterprise Content Management controlled vocabularies). If you can describe your collection, people might be able to advise you better. Jacob Ratliff Archivist/Taxonomy Librarian National Fire Protection Association On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Matthew Sherman matt.r.sher...@gmail.comwrote: Hello Code4Libbers, I am working on cleaning up our institutional repository, and one of the big areas of improvement needed is the list of terms from the subject fields. It is messy and I want to take the subject terms and place them into a much better order. I was contemplating using Library of Congress Subject Headings, but I wanted to see what others have done in this area to see if there is another good controlled vocabulary that could work better. Any insight is welcome. Thanks for your time everyone. Matt Sherman Digital Content Librarian University of Bridgeport
Re: [CODE4LIB] Subject Terms in Institutional Repositories
We are using LCSH in our repository, but it hasn't been very widely used because our users, largely research faculty and staff, don't think in terms of LCSH. -Mike On Aug 30, 2013 9:28 AM, Matthew Sherman matt.r.sher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Code4Libbers, I am working on cleaning up our institutional repository, and one of the big areas of improvement needed is the list of terms from the subject fields. It is messy and I want to take the subject terms and place them into a much better order. I was contemplating using Library of Congress Subject Headings, but I wanted to see what others have done in this area to see if there is another good controlled vocabulary that could work better. Any insight is welcome. Thanks for your time everyone. Matt Sherman Digital Content Librarian University of Bridgeport
Re: [CODE4LIB] Subject Terms in Institutional Repositories
I'd hold off on AAT until the release of the Getty vocabularies as linked open data in the near future. No sense in investing time to purchase or otherwise harvest terms from the Getty's current framework when the architecture is going to change very soon. On a related note, the British Museum's art-related thesauri are already linked open data, but not as transparent and accessible as one would prefer. Ethan On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Jacob Ratliff jaratlif...@gmail.comwrote: That does help, thanks. So, what you probably need to do then is take some time to strategically think about what you want the controlled vocabularies to accomplish, and what types of resources you have available to implement them. How granular do you want to be in each subject area? (e.g. Do you want to use MeSH https://www.nlm.nih.gov/mesh/ for all the medical information, or is that too detailed?) Are you just looking for cursory subject headings so that people can find a larger collection that they're looking for? (LoC could be good for this) Are you going to use a different controlled vocabulary for each collection? (e.g. MeSH for dentistry, LoC for general, etc.) Who is going to go back and re-tag all of the digital objects with new metadata? You can also look at www.taxonomywarehouse.com for some ideas of different controlled vocabularies that are available. I also recommend the Art and Architecture Thesaurus http://www.getty.edu/vow/AATSearchPage.jsp for art assets. Is this kind of what you're looking for? I highly recommend sitting down and defining what your goals are for the controlled vocabulary you want to implement, because that will inform that type of vocabulary you use. Jacob Ratliff Archivist/Taxonomy Librarian National Fire Protection Association On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Matthew Sherman matt.r.sher...@gmail.comwrote: Sorry, I probably should have provided a bit more depth. It is a University Institutional Repository so we have a rather varied collection of materials from engineering to education to computer science to chiropractic to dental to some student theses and posters. So I guess I need to find something at is extensible. Does that provide a better idea or should I provide more info? On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Jacob Ratliff jaratlif...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Matt, It depends on the subject area of your repository. There are dozens of controlled vocabularies that exist (not including specific Enterprise Content Management controlled vocabularies). If you can describe your collection, people might be able to advise you better. Jacob Ratliff Archivist/Taxonomy Librarian National Fire Protection Association On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Matthew Sherman matt.r.sher...@gmail.comwrote: Hello Code4Libbers, I am working on cleaning up our institutional repository, and one of the big areas of improvement needed is the list of terms from the subject fields. It is messy and I want to take the subject terms and place them into a much better order. I was contemplating using Library of Congress Subject Headings, but I wanted to see what others have done in this area to see if there is another good controlled vocabulary that could work better. Any insight is welcome. Thanks for your time everyone. Matt Sherman Digital Content Librarian University of Bridgeport
Re: [CODE4LIB] Subject Terms in Institutional Repositories
I see Ebsco uses Sears List of Subject Headings, I wonder if that would work a bit better. Not sure if anyone has tried it though. On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Jing Wang jwan...@jhu.edu wrote: That is the case with our faculty and staff here too. They don't use LCSH. Is any library maintaining/develop local taxonomy/ontology for research departments outside of library? Any tools or best practice you are willing to share? Thanks, Jing -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael J. Giarlo Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 10:06 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Subject Terms in Institutional Repositories We are using LCSH in our repository, but it hasn't been very widely used because our users, largely research faculty and staff, don't think in terms of LCSH. -Mike On Aug 30, 2013 9:28 AM, Matthew Sherman matt.r.sher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Code4Libbers, I am working on cleaning up our institutional repository, and one of the big areas of improvement needed is the list of terms from the subject fields. It is messy and I want to take the subject terms and place them into a much better order. I was contemplating using Library of Congress Subject Headings, but I wanted to see what others have done in this area to see if there is another good controlled vocabulary that could work better. Any insight is welcome. Thanks for your time everyone. Matt Sherman Digital Content Librarian University of Bridgeport
Re: [CODE4LIB] Subject Terms in Institutional Repositories
Mike, what do you mean when you say don't think in terms of LCSH? Is there some other vocabulary that they think in? If LCSH is the best option, the right interface may help them think in terms of LCSH. For example, auto-completion/suggestion of headings when tagging or searching might be necessary. -Shaun On 8/30/13 10:05 AM, Michael J. Giarlo wrote: We are using LCSH in our repository, but it hasn't been very widely used because our users, largely research faculty and staff, don't think in terms of LCSH. -Mike On Aug 30, 2013 9:28 AM, Matthew Sherman matt.r.sher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Code4Libbers, I am working on cleaning up our institutional repository, and one of the big areas of improvement needed is the list of terms from the subject fields. It is messy and I want to take the subject terms and place them into a much better order. I was contemplating using Library of Congress Subject Headings, but I wanted to see what others have done in this area to see if there is another good controlled vocabulary that could work better. Any insight is welcome. Thanks for your time everyone. Matt Sherman Digital Content Librarian University of Bridgeport
Re: [CODE4LIB] Subject Terms in Institutional Repositories
That is the case with our faculty and staff here too. They don't use LCSH. Is any library maintaining/develop local taxonomy/ontology for research departments outside of library? Any tools or best practice you are willing to share? Thanks, Jing -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael J. Giarlo Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 10:06 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Subject Terms in Institutional Repositories We are using LCSH in our repository, but it hasn't been very widely used because our users, largely research faculty and staff, don't think in terms of LCSH. -Mike On Aug 30, 2013 9:28 AM, Matthew Sherman matt.r.sher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Code4Libbers, I am working on cleaning up our institutional repository, and one of the big areas of improvement needed is the list of terms from the subject fields. It is messy and I want to take the subject terms and place them into a much better order. I was contemplating using Library of Congress Subject Headings, but I wanted to see what others have done in this area to see if there is another good controlled vocabulary that could work better. Any insight is welcome. Thanks for your time everyone. Matt Sherman Digital Content Librarian University of Bridgeport
Re: [CODE4LIB] Subject Terms in Institutional Repositories
I think the argument is that librarians think in LCSH/academics think in discipline-specific vocabularies. How many medical collections use LCSH over MeSH, for example? -Ross. On Aug 30, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Shaun Ellis sha...@princeton.edu wrote: Mike, what do you mean when you say don't think in terms of LCSH? Is there some other vocabulary that they think in? If LCSH is the best option, the right interface may help them think in terms of LCSH. For example, auto-completion/suggestion of headings when tagging or searching might be necessary. -Shaun On 8/30/13 10:05 AM, Michael J. Giarlo wrote: We are using LCSH in our repository, but it hasn't been very widely used because our users, largely research faculty and staff, don't think in terms of LCSH. -Mike On Aug 30, 2013 9:28 AM, Matthew Sherman matt.r.sher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Code4Libbers, I am working on cleaning up our institutional repository, and one of the big areas of improvement needed is the list of terms from the subject fields. It is messy and I want to take the subject terms and place them into a much better order. I was contemplating using Library of Congress Subject Headings, but I wanted to see what others have done in this area to see if there is another good controlled vocabulary that could work better. Any insight is welcome. Thanks for your time everyone. Matt Sherman Digital Content Librarian University of Bridgeport
Re: [CODE4LIB] Subject Terms in Institutional Repositories
One alternative to LCSH is FAST [1]. It uses LCSH terms but breaks up the pre-coordinated (and pretty much incomprehensible) strings into separate subject statements. So something like: Italy -- Art -- 18th century Becomes Italy Art 18th century As a *vocabulary* FAST is pretty extensive. And it's openly available, AFAIK. kc [1]http://www.oclc.org/research/activities/fast/download.html On 8/30/13 8:36 AM, Ross Singer wrote: I think the argument is that librarians think in LCSH/academics think in discipline-specific vocabularies. How many medical collections use LCSH over MeSH, for example? -Ross. On Aug 30, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Shaun Ellis sha...@princeton.edu wrote: Mike, what do you mean when you say don't think in terms of LCSH? Is there some other vocabulary that they think in? If LCSH is the best option, the right interface may help them think in terms of LCSH. For example, auto-completion/suggestion of headings when tagging or searching might be necessary. -Shaun On 8/30/13 10:05 AM, Michael J. Giarlo wrote: We are using LCSH in our repository, but it hasn't been very widely used because our users, largely research faculty and staff, don't think in terms of LCSH. -Mike On Aug 30, 2013 9:28 AM, Matthew Sherman matt.r.sher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Code4Libbers, I am working on cleaning up our institutional repository, and one of the big areas of improvement needed is the list of terms from the subject fields. It is messy and I want to take the subject terms and place them into a much better order. I was contemplating using Library of Congress Subject Headings, but I wanted to see what others have done in this area to see if there is another good controlled vocabulary that could work better. Any insight is welcome. Thanks for your time everyone. Matt Sherman Digital Content Librarian University of Bridgeport -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] Subject Terms in Institutional Repositories
I am encountering more FAST users-- and I like them. Of course I fear the OCLC hammer coming down and losing access but still trying to link its use to our Repo project. Thanks for the encouragement The other think-ins are say (old skool) Sears, Genre-terms-of-erratic-ownership, MESH and - In Canada - Repetoire de vedettes-matier et cetera et cetera..but is that more so public library? Maryann -Original Message- From: Bigwood, David dbigw...@hou.usra.edu Sender: Code for Libraries CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 16:41:51 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Reply-To: Code for Libraries CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Subject Terms in Institutional Repositories Another way most taggers don't think in terms of LCSH is precoordinated strings. Using FAST with auto suggest and complete might be something to consider. Sincerely, David Bigwood Lunar and Planetary Institute Twitter: @Catalogablog -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Shaun Ellis Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 10:24 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Subject Terms in Institutional Repositories Mike, what do you mean when you say don't think in terms of LCSH? Is there some other vocabulary that they think in? If LCSH is the best option, the right interface may help them think in terms of LCSH. For example, auto-completion/suggestion of headings when tagging or searching might be necessary. -Shaun
Re: [CODE4LIB] Subject Terms in Institutional Repositories
Another way most taggers don't think in terms of LCSH is precoordinated strings. Using FAST with auto suggest and complete might be something to consider. Sincerely, David Bigwood Lunar and Planetary Institute Twitter: @Catalogablog -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Shaun Ellis Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 10:24 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Subject Terms in Institutional Repositories Mike, what do you mean when you say don't think in terms of LCSH? Is there some other vocabulary that they think in? If LCSH is the best option, the right interface may help them think in terms of LCSH. For example, auto-completion/suggestion of headings when tagging or searching might be necessary. -Shaun
Re: [CODE4LIB] Subject Terms in Institutional Repositories
We use LCSH in our system, but we don't have unmediated deposits, so it isn't a problem that research faculty and staff don't know LCSH. One of the major reasons for LCSH over other vocabularies is we want our repository to integrate with records for our library catalog which uses LCSH. That said, we do use some additional vocabularies when we feel it necessary - however, all [non dark-archive] deposits get a few LCSH headings even if we use other more subject specific vocabularies as well. Edward [1] On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Michael J. Giarlo leftw...@alumni.rutgers.edu wrote: We are using LCSH in our repository, but it hasn't been very widely used because our users, largely research faculty and staff, don't think in terms of LCSH. -Mike On Aug 30, 2013 9:28 AM, Matthew Sherman matt.r.sher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Code4Libbers, I am working on cleaning up our institutional repository, and one of the big areas of improvement needed is the list of terms from the subject fields. It is messy and I want to take the subject terms and place them into a much better order. I was contemplating using Library of Congress Subject Headings, but I wanted to see what others have done in this area to see if there is another good controlled vocabulary that could work better. Any insight is welcome. Thanks for your time everyone. Matt Sherman Digital Content Librarian University of Bridgeport
Re: [CODE4LIB] Subject Terms in Institutional Repositories
What Ross said, Shaun. We also allow users to key in free-text subjects, since LCSH is not everything to everyone. -Mike On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Shaun Ellis sha...@princeton.edu wrote: Mike, what do you mean when you say don't think in terms of LCSH? Is there some other vocabulary that they think in? If LCSH is the best option, the right interface may help them think in terms of LCSH. For example, auto-completion/suggestion of headings when tagging or searching might be necessary. -Shaun On 8/30/13 10:05 AM, Michael J. Giarlo wrote: We are using LCSH in our repository, but it hasn't been very widely used because our users, largely research faculty and staff, don't think in terms of LCSH. -Mike On Aug 30, 2013 9:28 AM, Matthew Sherman matt.r.sher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Code4Libbers, I am working on cleaning up our institutional repository, and one of the big areas of improvement needed is the list of terms from the subject fields. It is messy and I want to take the subject terms and place them into a much better order. I was contemplating using Library of Congress Subject Headings, but I wanted to see what others have done in this area to see if there is another good controlled vocabulary that could work better. Any insight is welcome. Thanks for your time everyone. Matt Sherman Digital Content Librarian University of Bridgeport
