RE: Community (was: Re: You make the decision (was Re: Quick! convertall yourprojects to maven!))
I am very weary of any NIH type sentiment, is it might eventually lead to massive wastes of effort. I am aware of neither Maven nor Krysalis, so I can't comment on anything but the dogfood sentiment. Dogs don't really care where their food come from, they just eat it... Yours truly, Fido -Original Message- From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wed, May 01, 2002 1:17 AM To: Jakarta Commons Developers List Subject: Community (was: Re: You make the decision (was Re: Quick! convertall yourprojects to maven!)) on 4/30/02 3:04 PM, Amir D. Kolsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Krysalis isn't our own dog food. Argh NIH Yes. I admit that I'm biased towards Jakarta technologies, but it has nothing to do with NIH (focus on invented), think of it more like me being community centered. The same reason why I use Catalina instead of Jetty. Both are good containers, it is just that Catalina came from here and this is my community that I belong to. I support the community I belong to. Simple. Now, why doesn't Krysalis join with Maven? Would that be calling the Krysalis developers NIH? I don't think so...it is their choice. I also gave valid technical reasons why I prefer Mavenhowever, you choose to focus on the dog food statement. Yawn. I await your patches. -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Community (was: Re: You make the decision (was Re: Quick! convertall yourprojects to maven!))
As someone who uses Maven in his own projects (and is evangelizing it in other non Jakarta projects) I would love to see Common's built using Maven. But really, if Common's was built with either Maven or Krysalis, we would have some of the same advantages, not having to decipher build.xml files to get good compiles! I ended up having to tweak the dbcp build.xml because of various classpath issues. Now I have to remember those changes whenever I rebuild dbcp from CVS. If it uses a standard build system, then life will be much easier... PS, In reading, one of the things I like best about VisualStudio is the addition of more build structure. Not trying to start a flame war about .net or anything, but if Java has a solid open source build system (whatever it ends up being) the better it looks to compete. Eric -Original Message- From: Amir D. Kolsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 6:22 PM To: Jakarta Commons Developers List Subject: RE: Community (was: Re: You make the decision (was Re: Quick! convertall yourprojects to maven!)) I am very weary of any NIH type sentiment, is it might eventually lead to massive wastes of effort. I am aware of neither Maven nor Krysalis, so I can't comment on anything but the dogfood sentiment. Dogs don't really care where their food come from, they just eat it... Yours truly, Fido -Original Message- From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wed, May 01, 2002 1:17 AM To: Jakarta Commons Developers List Subject: Community (was: Re: You make the decision (was Re: Quick! convertall yourprojects to maven!)) on 4/30/02 3:04 PM, Amir D. Kolsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Krysalis isn't our own dog food. Argh NIH Yes. I admit that I'm biased towards Jakarta technologies, but it has nothing to do with NIH (focus on invented), think of it more like me being community centered. The same reason why I use Catalina instead of Jetty. Both are good containers, it is just that Catalina came from here and this is my community that I belong to. I support the community I belong to. Simple. Now, why doesn't Krysalis join with Maven? Would that be calling the Krysalis developers NIH? I don't think so...it is their choice. I also gave valid technical reasons why I prefer Mavenhowever, you choose to focus on the dog food statement. Yawn. I await your patches. -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] attachment: winmail.dat -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Community (was: Re: You make the decision (was Re: Quick!convertall yourprojects to maven!))
On 4/30/02 6:21 PM, Amir D. Kolsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am very weary of any NIH type sentiment, is it might eventually lead to massive wastes of effort. I am aware of neither Maven nor Krysalis, so I can't comment on anything but the dogfood sentiment. Dogs don't really care where their food come from, they just eat it... I think that depends on the dog... -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting You're going to end up getting pissed at your software anyway, so you might as well not pay for it. Try Open Source. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Community (was: Re: You make the decision (was Re: Quick!convertall yourprojects to maven!))
Well... at least mine do... The cats too... Come to think of it, the kids too... (although here we talk people food) -Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wed, May 01, 2002 1:43 AM To: Jakarta Commons Developers List Subject: Re: Community (was: Re: You make the decision (was Re: Quick!convertall yourprojects to maven!)) On 4/30/02 6:21 PM, Amir D. Kolsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am very weary of any NIH type sentiment, is it might eventually lead to massive wastes of effort. I am aware of neither Maven nor Krysalis, so I can't comment on anything but the dogfood sentiment. Dogs don't really care where their food come from, they just eat it... I think that depends on the dog... -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting You're going to end up getting pissed at your software anyway, so you might as well not pay for it. Try Open Source. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
