Re: ApacheCon at ASIA
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: ABOUT APACHECON ASIA If China would be impossible, Tokyo would be also nice. And Bali (near Jakarta) would be attractive. 10th anniversary and Jakarta's 10th anniversary --- BACK to the FUTURE! CN has proven easier than JP. Again, this is a list to discuss communities of coders. Not to first propose moneymaking schemes or new conference sites. About Bali (Near Java, Jakarta) issue, I know intertnational conductors who are managing the big events at Bali island. About the fact of STRONG YEN (against EUR, USD - every!) issue, maybe you are right, Bill. (In this sense, now Seoul is a good place ... M) Korea, the Republic of (Seoul) and China (including Taiwan, Hong Kong, Macau) would be better than Japan maybe and Japanese Companies can be the sponsors if held there. Where is this discussion happening? This is the first and only email I have on this thread... would like to follow the original discussion. Thanks Bill If anyone has a fund raising idea which benefits the ASF, email p...@apache.org. If anyone has an tangible conference idea (location/site/hotel/sponsors) please contact con...@apache.org - thank you all for helping us brainstorm these! - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. - President - E-mail: kitah...@99.alumni.u-tokyo.ac.jp http://www.terra-intl.com/ Apache News Online http://www.apachenews.org/ FAX: +1-4083512810 (USA) / +81-345209534 (Japan) / +44-2033182683 (UK) Tel: +1 408-549-1471 (San Jose, California, USA) Tel: +44 20-8133-5458 (London, United Kingdom) Tel: +82 70-7893-4581 (Seoul, South Korea) Tel: +85 281-701-209 (Hong Kong, China) Tel: +81 50-5806-3454 (Tokyo, Japan) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscr...@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: community-h...@apache.org
Re: Open Source, Cold Shoulder (fwd): One woman's comments
Henri Yandell wrote: On Tue, 19 Oct 2004, Julie MacNaught wrote: I am a big corporation's employee (IBM), not an individual contributor. My current pet theory is that due to quotas, Dang, so much for sensitivity and respect... Bill - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Open Source, Cold Shoulder (fwd): One woman's comments
Bill Stoddard wrote: Henri Yandell wrote: On Tue, 19 Oct 2004, Julie MacNaught wrote: I am a big corporation's employee (IBM), not an individual contributor. My current pet theory is that due to quotas, Dang, so much for sensitivity and respect... Bill Henri, your email could be interpreted in an unfavorable way but I know you had no ill intent and I should have added a :-) to my comment. :-) soap box: No one wants to be thought of as 'a quota'. The US policy of Affirmative Action is often called a quota system by people who are against it. AA would be a quota system only if one assumes that there are no members of a so called protected class (women, some racial minorities, etc) that are capable of doing the job. The fact is, there are lots of really talented folks that are members of 'protected classes' and companies like IBM aggressively recruit strong talent wherever they find it. Rightly so imho. My personal opinion (based solely on my experiences inside a big US multinational company) is that AA has about outlived its usefulness. No sane recruiter ignores talent based on gender, sexual preference or race and those that do deserve what's coming to them (failure in the marketplace). Julie, Thanks for your post. I think your observation is spot on. Women are, on average, not as assertive as men in mixed company. Communicating via a mailing list 'hangs you out there' so to speak on the assertiveness scale. I know in my early days in the Apache HTTP Server community, I had my head handed to me on a platter on a couple of occasions (by someone whose opinion I trust and respect, fwiw). That's a pretty typical experience I expect. Those types of experiences tend to filter communities for a certain set of personality traits; being averse to confrontation is not one of the traits folks in the Apache HTTP Server community tend to have, for better or worse. :-) Bill - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ASF Board Summary for January 21, 2004
Greg Stein wrote: Happy New Year! The Board met last Wednesday for its regular, monthly meeting. Since the official board minutes will still need to be drafted, approved, and posted to the web site, I am writing this email to give a brief summary of the actions we took. Since this has an affect on all committers at the ASF, you are receiving this email. In summary: * The Board has approved the new Apache License 2.0. For a copy of that license, please see http://www.apache.org/licenses/. The Board has also mandated that all ASF software must be switched to the new license by March 1st, 2004. Please watch this space for further instructions on how to use the new license. WooHoo!! * Last November, Roy Fielding resigned his position as a Director of the ASF in order to have more time to get real work done. Thus, we had a vacancy on the Board which needed to be filled. The Board appointed Sander Striker to fill that seat until the next ASF Members Meeting to be held sometime around June; the Members will elect a new Board at that time. Thanks for all your efforts Roy, and welcome to the Board, Sander! Congrats Sander! Bill - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Transition of the subscribers to announce MLs
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: At 07:00 AM 12/1/2003, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: *Maybe* resulted from good marketing effort :-) BTW - realize that Apache is not only not-for-profit, but is a charitable organization. Some folks might not be comfortable with the phrase 'marketing' although it certainly applies. If you want to avoid offense, a much better term for your efforts (and more recognizable in the western open-source world) is evangelism. How 'bout 'advocacy'? 'Evangelism' carries some baggage of its own here in the U.S of A. Bill - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Apache Newsletter Draft] News from YOUR PROJECTS in July, 2003
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: On Friday, Aug 1, 2003, at 15:01 Europe/Rome, David Reid wrote: Can we move discussions about newsletters to another mailing list? I know I'm not alone in finding that while some here will be interested, many aren't interested in assisting though will happily read the finished results. Regrettable? Certainly. Why not add a newsletter@ mailing list and those that feel they have literary bones can join there and contribute towards the newsletters production, then once it's ready and available it can be announced on announce@ (and possibly here as well). Life is too full of emails that can be considered spam already and I'd rather not add to that pile with messages (however well intentioned) about newsletters and the administration thereof. what happend to the tune please not yet another mail list? And the recommendation is coming from none other than David no more mailing lists Reid ;-) Bill - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Java + Scripting languages
Noel J. Bergman wrote: http://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=223 At the end, I will not be surprised if this turns out to be yet another JSP-like political compromise between vendors, with no technological value associated to it. I am a priori discouraged because I don't see IBM represented. To have this JSR without participation from the BSF folks seems wrong. I don't know if this is payback for Eclipse and the WS-I, an oversight, or what. --- Noel Lack of warm bodies with the right skills who are not already booked 110%. I am twisting Chuck Murcko and Victor Orlikowski's arm to represent IBM. Bill - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: always conduct link verfication on Apache docs
Heh,heh... (scrambling to make sure that no links in IBM's 'powered by Apache' product are broken :-) Bill Wow, i just re-confirmed the value of link verification on all generated Apache docs. If you are prepared for a shock, then make a simple speling mistake on one of your URLs ... apache.org = apche.org You have been warned. I almost sent people there to get downloads of Apache tools from the xml.apache.org homepage. --David - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ASF Membership Nomination
Sorry, but nominations for membership, commit status, or PMC membership really should be private. Absolutely. Bill
