RE: Draft proposal for EU patents protest
-Original Message- Gianugo Rabellino wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: Whatever text we adopted will need to be approved, anyhow, but do you want to add anything to the effect that the Apache Software Foundation develops software based upon Open Standards and promotes inter-operability, both of which would be threatened by software patents, and therefore the ASF is taking its position based upon the firm belief that Internet technology must remain open and unencumbered? I sure would like to see such statements but, given the lack of time, I thought that it would have been less questionable and debatable to have a more neutral text. But addition, if possible, would be most welcome. Is this more to your liking? Apache Software Foundation promotes software development based upon Open Standards, and promotes inter-operability. The ASF acts in the belief that Internet technologies must remain open and unencumbered. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Draft proposal for EU patents protest
Gianugo Rabellino wrote: Anyway, just in case the board gives the green light, attached is the (text corrected, thanks!) HTML page. It might need tweaks at the refresh meta and last link to adjust it to the correct index page. The img absolute link is on purpose, in case others want to apply this page to their TLP sites too. The same page is available, to save an scp, at http://cvs.apache.org/~gianugo/apache-protest.html. Sorry for attaching it, when I realized that uploading to the ASF server was a better solution it was just too late. :-) Ciao, -- Gianugo Rabellino Pro-netics s.r.l. - http://www.pro-netics.com Orixo, the XML business alliance - http://www.orixo.com (Now blogging at: http://blogs.cocoondev.org/gianugo/) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Draft proposal for EU patents protest
From: Gianugo Rabellino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 9:47 PM Andrew Savory wrote: http://petition.eurolinux.org. You will be redirected automatically to this site homepage in 60 seconds (or you can reach it directly by clicking a href=...here/a). also: a href=...Continue to the ASF home page./a ? Well, this was actually thought out for more than just www.apache.org, in case other PMC (with the approval of the Board, I assume) decide to shut their TLP sites too (there is an ongoing proposal on the Cocoon PMC and I'll send one to the XML PMC in minutes). Was yours meant as an addition or as a modification? Anyway, just in case the board gives the green light, attached is the (text corrected, thanks!) HTML page. It might need tweaks at the refresh meta and last link to adjust it to the correct index page. The img absolute link is on purpose, in case others want to apply this page to their TLP sites too. Hmmm. I was more thinking all or nothing. If the board approves, swap the main httpd.conf for a config that will serve only this page. We swap configs again when the protest is over (a day?). Sander - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Draft proposal for EU patents protest
From: Sander Striker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 9:55 PM Hmmm. I was more thinking all or nothing. If the board approves, swap the main httpd.conf for a config that will serve only this page. We swap configs again when the protest is over (a day?). Then again, although a stronger statement, maybe not. Our users deserve to be served as usual. Sander - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Draft proposal for EU patents protest
Whatever text we adopted will need to be approved, anyhow, but do you want to add anything to the effect that the Apache Software Foundation develops software based upon Open Standards and promotes inter-operability, both of which would be threatened by software patents, and therefore the ASF is taking its position based upon the firm belief that Internet technology must remain open and unencumbered? The irony is that the patent system was put into place to protect small inventors from powerful players, and to ensure that they would receive a fair economic reward. Instead it as evolved into a system where the largest players develop huge patent portfolios to use as leverage against their peers, and the smaller players are kept out of the system by the economics involved in the patent process. We see enough of that already here in the USA. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Draft proposal for EU patents protest
http://cvs.apache.org/~gianugo/apache-protest.html Page Closed - Important Notice this site - this site's --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Draft proposal for EU patents protest
Noel J. Bergman wrote: Whatever text we adopted will need to be approved, anyhow, but do you want to add anything to the effect that the Apache Software Foundation develops software based upon Open Standards and promotes inter-operability, both of which would be threatened by software patents, and therefore the ASF is taking its position based upon the firm belief that Internet technology must remain open and unencumbered? I sure would like to see such statements but, given the lack of time, I thought that it would have been less questionable and debatable to have a more neutral text. But addition, if possible, would be most welcome. The irony is that the patent system was put into place to protect small inventors from powerful players, and to ensure that they would receive a fair economic reward. Instead it as evolved into a system where the largest players develop huge patent portfolios to use as leverage against their peers, and the smaller players are kept out of the system by the economics involved in the patent process. We see enough of that already here in the USA. And this is exactly why we're trying to keep that away from Europe. :-) BTW, thanks for your corrections: they have been applied. Ciao, -- Gianugo Rabellino Pro-netics s.r.l. - http://www.pro-netics.com Orixo, the XML business alliance - http://www.orixo.com (Now blogging at: http://blogs.cocoondev.org/gianugo/) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Draft proposal for EU patents protest
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Sander Striker wrote: From: Sander Striker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 9:55 PM Hmmm. I was more thinking all or nothing. If the board approves, swap the main httpd.conf for a config that will serve only this page. We swap configs again when the protest is over (a day?). Then again, although a stronger statement, maybe not. Our users deserve to be served as usual. While I agree that we should care about our users, in the long run, making a sign against software patents might be the ultimate gift to them. Besides, there's plenty of mirrors around that still carry the distributions. All ASF sites out for one day sure might attract some eyeballs. But yes, it should be up to the board the respective PMCs to make that judgement call. /Steven - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
