Re: JavaFX
QTopia). But it will probably NOT be easily miscible with the OpenMoko software. It's a complete phone stack, like OpenMoko, like Android, like QTopia. You can run QTopia on OpenMoko today. See http://qtopia.net/modules/devices/openmoko.php Once JavaFX, Android are available, we will work on getting them into OpenMoko as well. Wolfgang On Jan 24, 2008, at 1:25 AM, Ian Darwin wrote: Wallace Jackson wrote: ... Also, I saw a NEO1973 on Sun's JavaFX announcement release on-line, behind the presenter (bigger than life!)... Does this mean that JavaFX is ready to rock for NEO application? No. Sun were nice enough to credit OpenMoko for making a superior Linux phone (see their blogs from June 2007). But the JavaFX package is a complete linux distro with JavaFX installed, based on work at a smaller JavaME licensee (Savaje) that Sun acquired. My guess is that this will be released next week or the week after, whenever Sun's Mobile Embedded workshop is. Heck, I don't even know if it uses X (like OpenMoko) or direct FB (like QTopia). But it will probably NOT be easily miscible with the OpenMoko software. It's a complete phone stack, like OpenMoko, like Android, like QTopia. Now if you want Java for the OpenMoko stack, that does exist, as Jalimo (among others). See http://www.jalimo.org. You can run command line (ssh'd into the phone), AWT, Swing (a bit slow), or GTK- In-Java. See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Java for an overview of Java projects. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Status of resellers (Was: GTA02 preorder please?)
Do you mean the office is at [1] (lat,lon)=(43.7,3.73); [2] (lat,lon)=(46.8,3.73) or [3] elsewhere. Note that, from my (possibly subjective) point of view, [1] is not eligible as south of France. [2] would be interesting for me. NB, I think I am at 43.594353,1.47967. I wonder if portable computing device with geolocalization devices would not be convenient sometimes to exchange such information? ;-)) Rodolphe Le jeudi 24 janvier 2008 à 02:06 +0100, Steven Le Roux a écrit : On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:54:08 +0100, Rodolphe Ortalo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Joseph, as a matter of fact, where exactly in the south of France? (The longitude should be okay for me too, but what about the lattitude? :-) Rodolphe Here it is : http://informationfreeway.org/?lat=46.80035049849701lon=3.7363181789030766zoom=6layers=B000F000F Look at 43.70 for example... Le mardi 22 janvier 2008 à 11:23 +, Joseph Reeves a écrit : Hi Gilles, I work for a UK based company with an office in the south of France. We plan to use the FreeRunner as a business tool are actively looking to become a reseller in the areas that we operate. Hopefully we'll be able to provide you with a phone at some point :) Thanks, Joseph On 22/01/2008, Gilles Casse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Michael, So direct pre-orders to OpenMoko.com are unlikely but in fact, I guess that some of us (in Europe for example) would prefer local resellers. Btw, what is the status of local resellers for France? Thank you Gilles ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Status of resellers (Was: GTA02 preorder please?)
On Jan 24, 2008 9:58 AM, Rodolphe Ortalo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if portable computing device with geolocalization devices would not be convenient sometimes to exchange such information? ;-)) Like this? http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0080.html Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Status of resellers (Was: GTA02 preorder please?)
Hi Rodolphe, I'm in Oxford, UK myself, but we have an office in Montpellier. We're looking into the possibility of becoming a value added reseller. Cheers, Joseph On 23/01/2008, Rodolphe Ortalo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Joseph, as a matter of fact, where exactly in the south of France? (The longitude should be okay for me too, but what about the lattitude? :-) Rodolphe Le mardi 22 janvier 2008 à 11:23 +, Joseph Reeves a écrit : Hi Gilles, I work for a UK based company with an office in the south of France. We plan to use the FreeRunner as a business tool are actively looking to become a reseller in the areas that we operate. Hopefully we'll be able to provide you with a phone at some point :) Thanks, Joseph On 22/01/2008, Gilles Casse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Michael, So direct pre-orders to OpenMoko.com are unlikely but in fact, I guess that some of us (in Europe for example) would prefer local resellers. Btw, what is the status of local resellers for France? Thank you Gilles ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OpenMoko, statifier Ermine
Hello, list. Some time ago Alessandro Iurlano (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Alessandro) asked me to port statifier (http://statifier.sf.net) to ARM processor, so executable compiled for ARM OABI can be run on EABI system without fuss about installing OABI libraries. I honestly tried my best, but wasn't too successful :( But I was able to port ermine (http://magicErmine.com) to ARM. Currently ermine able to pack OABI little endian ARM executables. After packaging those executables can be copied to the EABI (little endian) system and run here. No dependencies. Program can be downloaded here: http://magicErmine/downloads.html Everyone interesting to play are welcome. Regards, Valery. P.S. Ermine is proprietary, but license to use it for OpenMoko project can be given for free. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Digital Compass JavaFX - Additional hardware through custom mods
I agree that additional hardware should not be added to the default phone. If people want additional hardware they should get a custom case with extra room to support hobby projects and build/test these expansion modules themselves. If some of the modules became mainstream I could /eventually/ see these features added to the default configuration. Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 08:45:43 -0800 (PST) Wallace Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: A digital compass would be a nice feature for VIA (OpenMoko) to have in the phone as a hardware default. Is it inexpensive enough in quantity to include in the shipping release!? Also, I saw a NEO1973 on Sun's not going to happen. we are at gta02a5 (5th version) and are making zero changes - we want to make this work and release. we are only in the business of making sure what we actually have works. adding more will add cost and a lot more time to market. so basically- no. :) JavaFX announcement release on-line, behind the presenter (bigger than life!)... Does this mean that JavaFX is ready to rock for NEO application? no idea at this stage. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: JavaFX
On Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 04:36:52PM +0800, Wolfgang Spraul wrote: QTopia). But it will probably NOT be easily miscible with the OpenMoko software. It's a complete phone stack, like OpenMoko, like Android, like QTopia. You can run QTopia on OpenMoko today. See http://qtopia.net/modules/devices/openmoko.php Only by dual-booting or by using some virtualization layer, since QTopia uses a totally different way of accessing the frame buffer (does not use X11). You cannot have QTopia and OpenMoko apps running at the same time on the same screen, period. Once JavaFX, Android are available, we will work on getting them into OpenMoko as well. Well, you can assume they will run on the GTA hardware, in the same sense that QTopia does, but this is not the same as saying the run in the OpenMoko software environment. I don't think one can comment on either of these until we see whether they use X or whether they use direct framebuffer. If they use X then some of their apps *might* be miscible with OpenMoko. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Brief Community Update, January 24, 2008
A brief update: 1. Evaluation of GTA02A5 is taking place. There is some excellent discussion on the kernel list, e.g.: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-January/000606.html http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-January/000538.html I believe no hardware flaws have been found yet, but there is still much to inspect. As usual, we will not predict how long this will take, nor when we will start shipping GTA02. 2. We've made available the CAD files for the GTA01 case. We're still learning how best to deal with making available to FOSS users files originally in ProE format. We now have available IGES and STEP formats as well. I will continue to work on ways to make this available in a useful fashion with as little loss of information as possible. http://downloads.openmoko.org/CAD/ Sincerely, Michael ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Brief Community Update, January 24, 2008
As usual, we will not predict how long this will take, nor when we will start shipping GTA02. Waiting, waiting, sincerely... :) Pratul -- dum vivimus, vivamus http://pratul.in ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Brief Community Update, January 24, 2008
Thanks for your patience and continued support! Pratul Kalia wrote: As usual, we will not predict how long this will take, nor when we will start shipping GTA02. Waiting, waiting, sincerely... :) Pratul ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Resellers / distributors for OpenMoko
We recently had a discussion about resellers and distributors. Here's the current status: 1. We have one confirmed distributor, in Germany: Christoph Pulster/CEO [EMAIL PROTECTED] P|U|L|S|T|E|R - Profi Organiser Psion Banaterweg 5, 69181 Leimen, Germany Tel 01805 - 785 783 Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax 01803 - 551 809 858 Web www.Pulster.de 2. We are in discussion with a number of potential distributors around the world. I will report on these as I learn of them. 3. We are in the process of creating a web page listing our distributors. I will report on this when it is available. 4. Anyone wishing to become a distributor should contact Steve Mosher or Harry Tsai: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, Michael ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OSiM San Francisco - March 11-12, 2008 - Calling All Mobile Developers
Dear OpenMoko Community Adam Shaw of Informa, the company behind MWC, OSiM and other conferences, asked me to reach out to you, as follows: -- Calling all developers! After the success of OSiM 2007, the largest open source in mobile conference in the world, Informa is pleased to announce the arrival of OSiM USA, taking place in San Francisco on the 11th and 12th of March. As well as presentations from the most senior members of the industry, and from companies such as Google, AOL, Motorola, T-Mobile, Nokia etc I am also very keen to showcase the latest developments in open source applications. I am looking to devote an hour of the conference to give cutting edge developers the opportunity to demonstrate and explain their newest and freshest applications in front of our global audience. Presentations would last for around 10-15 minutes. If you are interested or would like further details please contact me directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Needless to say, anyone presenting at the event would be entitled to attend the entire conference at no cost. -- Disclosure: I am an unpaid adviser to the OSiM conferences and will also be presenting at the venue (as I did last year in Madrid). Bill W. -- Bill Weinberg - Embedded and Open Source Analyst / Consultant http://www.linuxpundit.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] 831-662-2857 (p) | 408-568-2492 (m) | 831-662-2852 (f) Blogs: http://activeanalysis.net/blog/18 http://linux-foundation.org/weblogs/mobile ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
France : Taxes for video and mp3 playing capacity
Hi all, According to this (http://www.pcinpact.com/actu/news/41415-iphone-ipod-taxe-commission-dalbis-copie-pri.htm french speaking) France is about to taxe smartphone which provide 3 features : - At least 128mo internal memory (neo will have 256) - at least one touch/key dedicated to audio playing (what about a touchscreen ?) - mp3 or video playing Obviously, this taxe is made to be iphone compliant, so I think the neo is too... If this case is occuring everywhere else (other country), I think it could be a good idea to distribute OpenMoko without any mp3 player but with a prompt at first wifi connexion for example which ask if you want install the related ipkg packages...or in an intallation wizard menu (no I don't want to be taxed again for that ! ;) ) -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Brief Community Update, January 24, 2008
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 09:19:48 -0800, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A brief update: 1. Evaluation of GTA02A5 is taking place. There is some excellent discussion on the kernel list, e.g.: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-January/000606.html http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-January/000538.html Really good news there ! Thx Michael Sincerely, Michael -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: France : Taxes for video and mp3 playing capacity
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:07:23 +0100, Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: France is about to taxe smartphone which provide 3 features : - At least 128mo internal memory (neo will have 256) - at least one touch/key dedicated to audio playing (what about a touchscreen ?) - mp3 or video playing Neo doesn't have keys dedicated to anything except turning it on and off. A touch screen is a versatile controller with areas assigned to different features at different times, with no part of it being dedicated to anything in particular. So it cannot be said that Neo has a control dedicated to audio playing. -- Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ICQ: 115226275] http://feldgendler.livejournal.com ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: France : Taxes for video and mp3 playing capacity
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:19:46 +0100, Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:07:23 +0100, Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: France is about to taxe smartphone which provide 3 features : - At least 128mo internal memory (neo will have 256) - at least one touch/key dedicated to audio playing (what about a touchscreen ?) - mp3 or video playing Neo doesn't have keys dedicated to anything except turning it on and off. A touch screen is a versatile controller with areas assigned to different features at different times, with no part of it being dedicated to anything in particular. So it cannot be said that Neo has a control dedicated to audio playing. They are discussing about conditions and taxe for less than these 3 cases (for example only mp3 playing hability) And the screentouch case is the same for iphone I think... and iphone is clearly taxed for them. -- Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ICQ: 115226275] http://feldgendler.livejournal.com ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: France : Taxes for video and mp3 playing capacity
No direspect or anything but that's probably the dumbest tax I've ever heard of. On Jan 24, 2008, at 4:34 PM, Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:19:46 +0100, Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:07:23 +0100, Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: France is about to taxe smartphone which provide 3 features : - At least 128mo internal memory (neo will have 256) - at least one touch/key dedicated to audio playing (what about a touchscreen ?) - mp3 or video playing Neo doesn't have keys dedicated to anything except turning it on and off. A touch screen is a versatile controller with areas assigned to different features at different times, with no part of it being dedicated to anything in particular. So it cannot be said that Neo has a control dedicated to audio playing. They are discussing about conditions and taxe for less than these 3 cases (for example only mp3 playing hability) And the screentouch case is the same for iphone I think... and iphone is clearly taxed for them. -- Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ICQ: 115226275] http://feldgendler.livejournal.com ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: France : Taxes for video and mp3 playing capacity
France is about to taxe smartphone which provide 3 features : - At least 128mo internal memory (neo will have 256) - at least one touch/key dedicated to audio playing (what about a touchscreen ?) - mp3 or video playing Can this be worked around by not shipping the neo with mp3 or video software and make it up to the user to download this later? What about ogg or flac... ;) Cheers, Tim ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: France : Taxes for video and mp3 playing capacity
Sent from my iPhone On Jan 24, 2008, at 4:34 PM, Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:19:46 +0100, Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:07:23 +0100, Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: France is about to taxe smartphone which provide 3 features : - At least 128mo internal memory (neo will have 256) - at least one touch/key dedicated to audio playing (what about a touchscreen ?) - mp3 or video playing Neo doesn't have keys dedicated to anything except turning it on and off. A touch screen is a versatile controller with areas assigned to different features at different times, with no part of it being dedicated to anything in particular. So it cannot be said that Neo has a control dedicated to audio playing. They are discussing about conditions and taxe for less than these 3 cases (for example only mp3 playing hability) And the screentouch case is the same for iphone I think... and iphone is clearly taxed for them. -- Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ICQ: 115226275] http://feldgendler.livejournal.com ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: France : Taxes for video and mp3 playing capacity
well, in denmark we pay a license to be able to watch the national tv, and listen to national radio stations, but they did decide that it now had to be a media license, because it was possible to listen to them online, and see different programmes online, so now if you have a computer, but no tv, or, a multimedia phone, you will have to pay what equals to 210 pounds a year. talk about stupid laws. Fabian On Jan 25, 2008 12:43 AM, Richard Reichenbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No direspect or anything but that's probably the dumbest tax I've ever heard of. On Jan 24, 2008, at 4:34 PM, Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:19:46 +0100, Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:07:23 +0100, Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: France is about to taxe smartphone which provide 3 features : - At least 128mo internal memory (neo will have 256) - at least one touch/key dedicated to audio playing (what about a touchscreen ?) - mp3 or video playing Neo doesn't have keys dedicated to anything except turning it on and off. A touch screen is a versatile controller with areas assigned to different features at different times, with no part of it being dedicated to anything in particular. So it cannot be said that Neo has a control dedicated to audio playing. They are discussing about conditions and taxe for less than these 3 cases (for example only mp3 playing hability) And the screentouch case is the same for iphone I think... and iphone is clearly taxed for them. -- Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ICQ: 115226275] http://feldgendler.livejournal.com ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Mvh Fabian Olesen If it moves, compile it. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: France : Taxes for video and mp3 playing capacity
this will not work in denmark, because the phone will be deemed capable of doing it. On Jan 25, 2008 12:51 AM, Tim Erwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: France is about to taxe smartphone which provide 3 features : - At least 128mo internal memory (neo will have 256) - at least one touch/key dedicated to audio playing (what about a touchscreen ?) - mp3 or video playing Can this be worked around by not shipping the neo with mp3 or video software and make it up to the user to download this later? What about ogg or flac... ;) Cheers, Tim ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Mvh Fabian Olesen If it moves, compile it. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: France : Taxes for video and mp3 playing capacity
Richard Reichenbacher wrote: No direspect or anything but that's probably the dumbest tax I've ever heard of. In Hungary there is tax on every _empty_ Compact Disc and DVD. The concept is that you will store warez mp3 on them. So when I archive my personal photos or software projects I pay tax for the recording companies. I don't know the current state but there was rumour about extending the tax on all storage devices (including hard disks and flash pen drives). Inside the EU it is legal to import gadget from any country from inside the EU without paying taxes. So these devices can be bought in the surrounding countries cheaper. You can disrespect it. It is a really dumb kind of tax :-). US people may say it is stupid, but at least there are no software patents here yet :-). SA ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: France : Taxes for video and mp3 playing capacity
The speedometer on my Volkswagen says my 10-year old Passat is capable of driving 160mph, but doesn't mean I should have to pay a speeding ticket as though I do. I concur, these tax laws are silly business. I was glad to hear that Canada shut down the DRM tax that some group was trying to get the government to back them up on. Ian Fabian Olesen wrote: this will not work in denmark, because the phone will be deemed capable of doing it. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Digital Compass JavaFX - Additional hardware through custom mods
On Thu, 2008-01-24 at 08:27 -0700, Jeremiah Flerchinger wrote: I agree that additional hardware should not be added to the default phone. If people want additional hardware they should get a custom case with extra room to support hobby projects and build/test these expansion modules themselves. If some of the modules became mainstream I could eventually see these features added to the default configuration. I considered that for small modules it may be possible to add extensions to the corners of the phone, thus making it more square. The side of the extension facing the phone can also be shielded if needed to limit interference on both sides. This will not win any prizes in a beauty contest, but in my life function comes before form. Regards Hendrik ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: France : Taxes for video and mp3 playing capacity
Schmidt András ha scritto: Richard Reichenbacher wrote: No direspect or anything but that's probably the dumbest tax I've ever heard of. In Hungary there is tax on every _empty_ Compact Disc and DVD. The concept is that you will store warez mp3 on them. So when I archive my personal photos or software projects I pay tax for the recording companies. I don't know the current state but there was rumour about extending the tax on all storage devices (including hard disks and flash pen drives). Inside the EU it is legal to import gadget from any country from inside the EU without paying taxes. So these devices can be bought in the surrounding countries cheaper. You can disrespect it. It is a really dumb kind of tax :-). US people may say it is stupid, but at least there are no software patents here yet :-). SA Oh, in Italy there are no software patents but there is a stupid tax like that in Hungary, a tax that you pay on each thing which has the ability to store datas (empty CDs, HDDs,...), that's because you could potentially store something like illegal MP3s, illegal videos and pirated copy of anything, so that tax is made (if i can remember well) to refound the damage that anyone is subject. So, the logic will say that if you pay that tax you CAN copy anything and download anything legal or not from the internet, you are paying for that, but no, you can't. Yeah, it's a stupid tax but hey you COULD do an illegal use of the storage media Cya Pietro ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko, statifier Ermin
On Jan 24, 2008 4:50 AM, Valery Reznic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Currently ermine able to pack OABI little endian ARM executables. After packaging those executables can be copied to the EABI (little endian) system and run here. No dependencies. Can it be used to fix gllin then? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: France : Taxes for video and mp3 playing capacity
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 16:43:10 -0700, Richard Reichenbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No direspect or anything but that's probably the dumbest tax I've ever heard of. Probably France is the dumbest country right now about taxes and other stupid stuff... This is an other debate ) -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko, statifier Ermin
--- Shawn Rutledge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 24, 2008 4:50 AM, Valery Reznic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Currently ermine able to pack OABI little endian ARM executables. After packaging those executables can be copied to the EABI (little endian) system and run here. No dependencies. Can it be used to fix gllin then? Yes. I packed gllin on my OABI system and Alessando tested it on his EABI. Valery. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Any OS X developers out there working with OpenMoko?
Hi, I recently looked into the change history of the dedicated MacOS X page in the wiki and I have got the impression that I am the only one still doing something and improving the interworking between the Mac and OpenMoko: http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=MacOS_Xaction=history Is my impression wrong or have you all already bought an iPodTouch or iPhone and waits for the SDK? Please raise your hands... Nikolaus (hns) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
