Re: Broken Freerunner.. CPU stall messages.. repairable?
Maksim 'max_posedon' Melnikau wrote: I still think that its somehow connected with kernel, at least: [snip: ugly Kernel Messages] doesn't looks good How did you manage to copy those messages? is it because it eventually boots your FR? Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ It is easier to write an incorrect program than understand a correct one. - Alan J. Perlis -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[qtmoko] cannot flash v14
Tried twice, but got following error... earlier images worked. Dfu-ing the kernel worked however, and it boots (obvious), but after lots of jffs2 errors.. hangs /qtmoko$ sudo dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D qtmoko-debian-v14.jffs2 [sudo] password for X: dfu-util - (C) 2007-2008 by OpenMoko Inc. This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY Opening USB Device 0x:0x... Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=7, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=6, name=rootfs Claiming USB DFU Interface... Setting Alternate Setting ... Determining device status: state = dfuERROR, status = 14 dfuERROR, clearing status Determining device status: state = dfuIDLE, status = 0 dfuIDLE, continuing Transfer Size = 0x1000 bytes_per_hash=2152707 Starting download: [#dfu_download error -71 Error during download -- rgrds, mobi phil being mobile, but including technology http://mobiphil.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [RFC] Qi Bootmenu
2009/10/9 Sander van Grieken san...@3v8.net: if speed is a main factor why just keep the boot loader in text mode selectionable with aux+power , a kind of dinamic uboot sorry I mean why NOT just keep... Also a great idea, but I was commenting on the thoughts of Marc, who more or less alreaqdy decided on that it should be graphical :) grtz, Sander I forget to add copy to the list, Ok a simple gui should not add to much load on the whole process indeed David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v14 unable to send sms???
Hi, 2009/10/9 Pablo Miño pablodanielm...@gmail.com I am unable to reply sms because there is no send option! There is a delete option instead. How do I solve this? FWIW, it works here. Are you using keyboard as the input? Perhaps you need to finish keyboard input before you can see the send button? On the keyboard I use there is a blue arrow pointing right that takes me to the send button after writing a reply to a text message. HTH -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Gutenflash
Yorick Moko wrote: btw: it doesn't create a *.desktop file in /usr/share/applications/ Righ :-) ! Added in: http://soft.oralux.net/gutenflash/gutenflash_snapshot-31-r1_armv4t.ipk Gilles Hello Gilles, I like your software a lot, thank you. Only one suggestion: is it possible to add the possibility of rotate the inner screen (the one used by gutenflash), but not the main one, as in FBReader? Thank Giacomo -- /_\ The ASCII Per comunicare in modo riservato: \_/ Ribbon Campaign gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net \ X Against HTML--recv-keys 20611EAD /_\ Email! -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Where do I discuss these Ideas??
Ideas of various applications that be made for neofreerunner. First a little bit about me, so you don't start abusing me I'm a newbie to linux and an electronics engineer not a programmer, though have worked on non-os embedded systems. *Mini Joystick* 1) I wish to make a small portable mini joystick for the phone, and a stand so it can be used as a gaming device. (Play mario and contra) Port SDL and the games along with it. *Rockbox* 2) Port Rockbox a an application/seperate boot os (like hp quickplay) *Bluetooth console* 3) Use Bluetooth on the device, connect it to the PC via a serial port and use it as the console. *Vanilla OS* 4) Install a custom linux with bare minimum things to boot up, answer calls and msgs, keep it as an alternative battery saving os! (Vanilla Os). maybe even no GUI. *USB to TV * 5) This one is a little to far fetched an Idea but maybe it is possible. Make a program to stream decoded video to usb , and a external small portable usb device to convert it to rf or component video to be seen over tv clearly. *Accelerometer based Joystick* 6) Make a software which reads the accelerometer's and sends the data to the pc, maybe map 4-5 keys on the screen. Use a standard joystick HID!! * Eyes for Robot* 7) Use a webcam and a base robot , to guide through obstacles. (just for fun) *Serial port / Programmer * 8) Use it to program via serial port AVR , pic and other 8 bit micro-controllers. Also use it as serial terminal port through Ft2322 for micro-controllers . *JTAG * 9) Use usb port through ft2322 for JTAG debugging on other arm/embedded boards. *Wishlist * *PSP *1) Make a software which uses wifi to connect to the PS3 and emulate a psp. (Maybe it is already there) Car Computer 2) Monitor car computer via openmoko, tweak it. *Assembly OS * 3) Write the fastest OS using assembly, let the executable size be 5 Mb with all apps!! (This one is Stupid I know, but just sometimes you have a hitch maybe this is the fastest) *Assembly Vanilla Os * 4) Maybe my previous point can be used for making the low power os (vanilla)!!! *Phone to Phone USB * 5) Freerunner to Freerunner direct connectivity through USB. (Applications are limit less) Phone to phone charging, file sharing, co-processing, Application interface, Gaming, etc. While saving a lot of Power, other than charging of course!! *Emulate Symbian OS 9.3 * 6) Emulate Symbian Os so we can use all their apps!! I know it would be Evil but why not?? I really like some of their apps Silicon Cell Body 7) Replace external plastic case with silicon cell for solar energy harnessing!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 1024#
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:31:43 +0100 Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote: On 8 Oct 2009, at 22:15, Mikhail Umorin wrote: On Thursday 08 October 2009 11:57:38 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: either you are in a zone with weak signal from 4508 and 2DF1 (so you jump frequently from one to the other) or yes, you probably are suffering from #1024 :( What's the best way to differentiate? Stand by a cell tower and wait for a couple of hours? It has already been posted here: Under normal circumstances you would only see these messages with a change of cell, so cid would be different. The only time I know of that you might legitimately see repeated reconnection to the same cell is if you've got very low signal and it's the only cell visible. I am really unclear why you feel the need to ask - yet again - if you're affected by #1024, when all the symptoms so clearly seem to point to it. Your Freerunner is of one of the batches affected, yes? Your Freerunner is reregistering. Obviously. Do you really have reason to believe you're in an area which receives poor coverage from these two towers? What signal strength do mobile phones generally show in your house? Or are you just grasping at straws, hoping your Freerunner is unaffected? Stroller. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Am i the only one who sees 3 towers? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Broken Freerunner.. CPU stall messages.. repairable?
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Thomas Franck thomas.fra...@gmx.comwrote: How did you manage to copy those messages? is it because it eventually boots your FR? Yes, as I said before, NOR uBoot still can boot my neo, so, I copied it from dmesg output. Anyway, there I can see kernel bug(I think), and this shouldn't be happend even if my nand have some badblocks. Since my neo is more then 1 year old, and its falls sometimes, I think a may have some badblocks. As for me, I'm waiting for 2.6.31(2) upstream kernel, and then will try find out more. As for you, I defently don't understand why you can't boot from uSD, plz try some very old images. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v14 unable to send sms???
This is really odd. I asume that my QtMoko v14 is no different than yours, so I should see what you told me but I do not. I am in the create message screen, close to the battery status there is a little keyboard where I can hide the keyboard or switch to another keyboard, I have four keyboards (only three are shown) an none show a blue arrow, at the most the DockedKeyboard shows a little green key that extends the keyboard with stuff. I do not think I am missing it and I am feeling really silly. Where should this blue arrow be? How do I finish the keyboard, just hiding? On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 06:58, Torfinn Ingolfsen tin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, 2009/10/9 Pablo Miño pablodanielm...@gmail.com I am unable to reply sms because there is no send option! There is a delete option instead. How do I solve this? FWIW, it works here. Are you using keyboard as the input? Perhaps you need to finish keyboard input before you can see the send button? On the keyboard I use there is a blue arrow pointing right that takes me to the send button after writing a reply to a text message. HTH -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Pablo Miño ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtmoko] cannot flash v14
I have this sometimes too, mostly when flashing a lot (and lots of connect / reconnect the Neo). This is what helps me the most of the time (I use Ubuntu 9.04): sudo /etc/init.d/udev refresh-devices But you can always load the installer-image I've created ( http://www.openmobile.nl/pages/downloads.php#qtm14 QtMoko V14 ) so you won't have to flash it over USB, just unzip the image to the first (vfat) partition on you're sdcard and boot from it in NOR mode. It's also a lot faster then flashing over USB. But beware, there are some little changes in the configuration: swap is on partition 2 of the sdcard (instead of 4) and nfs mounts to /media/jffs2 (instead of /). -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/qtmoko-cannot-flash-v14-tp3793119p3794143.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Where do I discuss these Ideas??
Awesome ideas! I guess this is the place to discuss these. I've also got some ideas, small changes to improve the usability etc. Some stuff that's distro-dependent, some other stuff. Keep your ideas coming, pick one and show us how it works. It'll encourage the community, to me it looks like the -community list is slowing down, discussing mostly qtmoko-stuff.. So I warmly welcome all creative and crazy ideas! r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Where do I discuss these Ideas??
Aditya Gandhi a écrit : Ideas of various applications that be made for neofreerunner. First a little bit about me, so you don't start abusing me I'm a newbie to linux and an electronics engineer not a programmer, though have worked on non-os embedded systems. Great ideas ! Before this mail gets forgotten in the darkness of this list' archive, you should write down all you ideas in a wki page. It would also be easier to dig them if somebody decide to implement one of them. Nicolas. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v14 unable to send sms???
Hi, 2009/10/9 Pablo Miño pablodanielm...@gmail.com I am in the create message screen, close to the battery status there is a little keyboard where I can hide the keyboard or switch to another keyboard, I have four keyboards (only three are shown) an none show a blue arrow, at the most the DockedKeyboard shows a little green key that extends the keyboard with stuff. Interesting, in my test I used the reply to message function, not the create message. But anyhow. I use the DockedKeyboard. As soon as I start to type characters on the screen, the blue arrow (it is light blue, actually) replaces the white cross in a red circle which is on the right side above the keyboard. After I finished typing, I press the blue arrow, and the the sed screen shows, whee I can select someone to send to (or type in in number), and then I canpress the send button. Don't yours work like that? HTH -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v14 unable to send sms???
No matter if I reply a sms or start a new one, it happens the same. When I start a new message (or reply a sms) I see a red circle with a white cross and when I start typing it changes to an orange pentagon with a white cross inside that is pointing backwards and it actually deletes a character each time it is pressed. If I disable Use icon for soft keys in Settings - Appearance the orange pentagon becomes a Delete key. This is quite odd. I downloaded the images yesterday (or the day before yesterday) and are v14. Is it possible to change the behavior via configuration files? On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:54, Torfinn Ingolfsen tin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, 2009/10/9 Pablo Miño pablodanielm...@gmail.com I am in the create message screen, close to the battery status there is a little keyboard where I can hide the keyboard or switch to another keyboard, I have four keyboards (only three are shown) an none show a blue arrow, at the most the DockedKeyboard shows a little green key that extends the keyboard with stuff. Interesting, in my test I used the reply to message function, not the create message. But anyhow. I use the DockedKeyboard. As soon as I start to type characters on the screen, the blue arrow (it is light blue, actually) replaces the white cross in a red circle which is on the right side above the keyboard. After I finished typing, I press the blue arrow, and the the sed screen shows, whee I can select someone to send to (or type in in number), and then I canpress the send button. Don't yours work like that? HTH -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Pablo Miño ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Where do I discuss these Ideas??
Thanks a lot Nicolas already put them on my user page, please let me know if anymore changes are required!! here's the link to my page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User_talk:Aditya_g8 On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Nicolas Pichon nicolas.pic...@luceor.comwrote: Aditya Gandhi a écrit : Ideas of various applications that be made for neofreerunner. First a little bit about me, so you don't start abusing me I'm a newbie to linux and an electronics engineer not a programmer, though have worked on non-os embedded systems. Great ideas ! Before this mail gets forgotten in the darkness of this list' archive, you should write down all you ideas in a wki page. It would also be easier to dig them if somebody decide to implement one of them. Nicolas. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Where do I discuss these Ideas??
Risto thanks for the compliment, will try these Ideas as soon as I get my device, just collecting the money. Almost there Will get it Soon and hope I can impliment most of them.. Again thanks a lot for the response. On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Aditya Gandhi aditya...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks a lot Nicolas already put them on my user page, please let me know if anymore changes are required!! here's the link to my page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User_talk:Aditya_g8 On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Nicolas Pichon nicolas.pic...@luceor.comwrote: Aditya Gandhi a écrit : Ideas of various applications that be made for neofreerunner. First a little bit about me, so you don't start abusing me I'm a newbie to linux and an electronics engineer not a programmer, though have worked on non-os embedded systems. Great ideas ! Before this mail gets forgotten in the darkness of this list' archive, you should write down all you ideas in a wki page. It would also be easier to dig them if somebody decide to implement one of them. Nicolas. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Where do I discuss these Ideas??
Aditya Gandhi wrote: * Eyes for Robot* 7) Use a webcam and a base robot , to guide through obstacles. (just for fun) I'm starting a project doing just about that - using a Freerunner to control a robot via Bluetooth. As I'm a programmer and not a hardware guy, the robot of choice is the Lego NXT. Currently, I'm working on communication between those two parts. Will start posting when I have some results! Cheers rhn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: evopedia 0.2.3 release
Sebastian Reichel schrieb: On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 11:51:47PM +0200, Christian wrote: Hi, I'm interested in packaging your software for Debian. Can you please provide a source tarball? On the website you state, that the software is released under GPLv3+, but I can't find any sourcecode :( -- Sebastian Reichel Thank you, that's nice to hear! I just created a small git repository at http://github.com/crei/evopedia. Since evopedia only contains interpreted code, I thought releasing an extra source package would not be necessary, but you are right, .ipk packages are not so easy to extract. Note that the .ipk package also contains init scripts and configuration files which are not included in the git repository up to now. Christian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Where do I discuss these Ideas??
Hi rhn, I'm trying something a little bit different, I plan to make it autonomous, with neo controlling it while sitting on it. Eg:. Using gps and a usb cam deliver tea for me from one room to other in a big appartment Something of that sort... Anyways any help needed in your project please do ask, will try and help you On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:00 PM, rhn omcomali@porcupinefactory.orgwrote: Aditya Gandhi wrote: * Eyes for Robot* 7) Use a webcam and a base robot , to guide through obstacles. (just for fun) I'm starting a project doing just about that - using a Freerunner to control a robot via Bluetooth. As I'm a programmer and not a hardware guy, the robot of choice is the Lego NXT. Currently, I'm working on communication between those two parts. Will start posting when I have some results! Cheers rhn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Where do I discuss these Ideas??
Hi! I like your ideas too and I'd like to share my possible future project too ;): BASH-LIKE PHONE An openmoko distribution which uses FSO. The interface is just a shell with on top of it a transparent keyboard (something like the fatfingershell). You can dail like this: piet...@myphone$ dail +3248.. RET or a contact: piet...@myphone$ dail homtab RET # = pieterc phone home dail should be a python/bash/... script using the FSO api. other easy to use commands I can think of: * addcontact contact #number# -group friends * whereami (returns gsm locations and searches for cityname close to that) * sendtext come home for dinner son1 # sends sms to son1 (again with autocompletion) * wakemeup 7:30 * tail /var/mail #to read last text-messages bash-commands or commands you're used to: ls,cd,grep,awk,tail, ps, date, ... and some ported apps: * nethack (yes, the game) * links/lynx, * emacs (with erc) * fortune (I like fortune a lot.) * ... I think it's extremely easy and fun to develop this idea. It would make a perfect unix-lover-phone. We could hack on gnu bash to accomplish the auto completion for contacts and other stuff. Pieter On Fri, 2009-10-09 at 15:27 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: Awesome ideas! I guess this is the place to discuss these. I've also got some ideas, small changes to improve the usability etc. Some stuff that's distro-dependent, some other stuff. Keep your ideas coming, pick one and show us how it works. It'll encourage the community, to me it looks like the -community list is slowing down, discussing mostly qtmoko-stuff.. So I warmly welcome all creative and crazy ideas! r ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v14
ghislain wrote: Hi! I really like QtMoko and V14 is an improvement! Every time a new version arrives I provide the Freerunner Community in the Netherlands with an alternative download on http://www.openmobile.nl/ openmobile.nl (this site is in Dutch). I also changes some basic things to the standard QtMoko version: * I create an sdCard installer (Android alike, by flashing qi, rootfs, kernel) * I add some packages (pkg-fso-keyring vim ntpdate nfs-common mtd-utils flite) * I add a working version of Navit (under QX), with speech (flite) with an working map (Benelux) on the sdCard under the MapsNavit folder * I change the defaults of the fstab (swap on 2nd partition of sdCard), nfs-mount to host (192.168.1.200) /media/jffs2 Maybe this is handy for the rest of the community too? Take a look at the latest (V14) installer-image: http://www.openmobile.nl/pages/downloads.php#qtm14 QtMoko V14 Installer Image and let me know if this is something you all like or if there need to be some changes. would you mind creating some package or archive which simply unpacks all necessary files of navit (w/o maps ofc) into the root dir or qtmoko? or maybe add instructions to the qtmoko wiki on how to get the latest version of navit (svn would be best) working on qtmoko? first one might be easier, as you already did all the appropriate steps :) thanks in advance! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/QtMoko-v14-tp3781291p3795590.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v14
ghislain wrote: Hi! I really like QtMoko and V14 is an improvement! Every time a new version arrives I provide the Freerunner Community in the Netherlands with an alternative download on http://www.openmobile.nl/ openmobile.nl (this site is in Dutch). I also changes some basic things to the standard QtMoko version: * I create an sdCard installer (Android alike, by flashing qi, rootfs, kernel) * I add some packages (pkg-fso-keyring vim ntpdate nfs-common mtd-utils flite) * I add a working version of Navit (under QX), with speech (flite) with an working map (Benelux) on the sdCard under the MapsNavit folder * I change the defaults of the fstab (swap on 2nd partition of sdCard), nfs-mount to host (192.168.1.200) /media/jffs2 Maybe this is handy for the rest of the community too? Take a look at the latest (V14) installer-image: http://www.openmobile.nl/pages/downloads.php#qtm14 QtMoko V14 Installer Image and let me know if this is something you all like or if there need to be some changes. whoops, you already did it and i just found it (somewhat hidden) in your download section. Thanks, i'll try when i'm home :) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/QtMoko-v14-tp3781291p3795633.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Where do I discuss these Ideas??
Hi Aditya Actually, that's even closer to what I'm going to do. The main part of the project is discovering ways to detect objects autonomously, with the FR riding the vehicle. I'd use GPS if I had a bigger robot, but I'm afraid that's not an option :) I have little experience in handling camera input, too, and I'm not concerned about Freerunner's computing power. Thanks for your offer. I'd be happy if I could share my new experiences, too. Cheers rhn Aditya Gandhi wrote: Hi rhn, I'm trying something a little bit different, I plan to make it autonomous, with neo controlling it while sitting on it. Eg:. Using gps and a usb cam deliver tea for me from one room to other in a big appartment Something of that sort... Anyways any help needed in your project please do ask, will try and help you On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:00 PM, rhn omcomali@porcupinefactory.org mailto:omcomali@porcupinefactory.org wrote: Aditya Gandhi wrote: * Eyes for Robot* 7) Use a webcam and a base robot , to guide through obstacles. (just for fun) I'm starting a project doing just about that - using a Freerunner to control a robot via Bluetooth. As I'm a programmer and not a hardware guy, the robot of choice is the Lego NXT. Currently, I'm working on communication between those two parts. Will start posting when I have some results! Cheers rhn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v14 unable to send sms???
Hi, 2009/10/9 Pablo Miño pablodanielm...@gmail.com No matter if I reply a sms or start a new one, it happens the same. When I start a new message (or reply a sms) I see a red circle with a white cross and when I start typing it changes to an orange pentagon with a white cross inside that is pointing backwards and it actually deletes a character each time it is pressed. On the left side (to the left of the red circle) you have the menu button. There you can select change input method, which cycles through the keyboards (and a handwiting option I guess). What happens if you select another keyboard? If I disable Use icon for soft keys in Settings - Appearance the That one is enabled here. This is quite odd. I downloaded the images yesterday (or the day before yesterday) and are v14. I have my image installed on a partition on a SD card, installed from the tar.gz file. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: evopedia 0.2.3 release
2009/10/9 Christian christ...@exinto.de: The following dump languages are available at the moment: Dutch, French, German, Italian, Polish and Spanish. could you supply the code used to create the dumps? i realise your reticence to create the english dump (i assume size?) - i would be interested in creating my own though ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 1024#
On Friday 09 October 2009 06:42:11 joan@gmx.net wrote: On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:31:43 +0100 Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote: On 8 Oct 2009, at 22:15, Mikhail Umorin wrote: On Thursday 08 October 2009 11:57:38 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: either you are in a zone with weak signal from 4508 and 2DF1 (so you jump frequently from one to the other) or yes, you probably are suffering from #1024 :( What's the best way to differentiate? Stand by a cell tower and wait for a couple of hours? It has already been posted here: Under normal circumstances you would only see these messages with a change of cell, so cid would be different. The only time I know of that you might legitimately see repeated reconnection to the same cell is if you've got very low signal and it's the only cell visible. I am really unclear why you feel the need to ask - yet again - if you're affected by #1024, when all the symptoms so clearly seem to point to it. Your Freerunner is of one of the batches affected, yes? Your Freerunner is reregistering. Obviously. Do you really have reason to believe you're in an area which receives poor coverage from these two towers? What signal strength do mobile phones generally show in your house? Or are you just grasping at straws, hoping your Freerunner is unaffected? Stroller. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Am i the only one who sees 3 towers? if you are referring to my log, there are actually 8 towers: 2DF1, 2CED, 4508, 4506, 4507, 2B20, 2B21, and 2B04 What's up with that? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v14 unable to send sms???
If I select another keyboard it smiply changes the keyboard but the orange pentagon keeps there and does not change for a blue arrow. I simply flash it from the rootfs. I am clueless... On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 16:44, Torfinn Ingolfsen tin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, 2009/10/9 Pablo Miño pablodanielm...@gmail.com No matter if I reply a sms or start a new one, it happens the same. When I start a new message (or reply a sms) I see a red circle with a white cross and when I start typing it changes to an orange pentagon with a white cross inside that is pointing backwards and it actually deletes a character each time it is pressed. On the left side (to the left of the red circle) you have the menu button. There you can select change input method, which cycles through the keyboards (and a handwiting option I guess). What happens if you select another keyboard? If I disable Use icon for soft keys in Settings - Appearance the That one is enabled here. This is quite odd. I downloaded the images yesterday (or the day before yesterday) and are v14. I have my image installed on a partition on a SD card, installed from the tar.gz file. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Pablo Miño ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Where do I discuss these Ideas??
Hi Rhn, Oh nice, see as far as openmoko is concerned you dont have to do much. I will soon be making a board on which I will have USB connection to the open moko, A web cam , sensors and a motor driver. The hardware is fairly simple, I'll explain why Its a usb hub with external power (3.3 1200MAh Lithium Ion with convertor to 5V) A web cam, a simple atmega microcontroller with the usb code for sensors and motor control. So you just have to detect the camera use it in a program and the atmega as a simple HID device and control the motor. I will upload the firmware the board designs once I'm done, so everyone can use it. Once we have the basic system running we can have extendded abilities, like bluetooth connectivity, wi-fi etc. Applications are far more than we can think of nowBut thats at a later stage. And as far as computing power of neo is concerned I really plan to make a stripped out version of the kernel, maybe even without a gui to run my apps, I believe a 400Mhz processor is enough for the purpose. Lets se as I calculate how do I plan to do my Image processing and How much ram and processor speed is needed. So here is what we can do before we try it on Freerunner, Make a virtual pc, slow it down a lot , maybe a arm emulator only. Run linux kernel, and try our hardware at 200 Mhz, 300 Mhz and optimise the code. Then compile it for the neo. Just a brief overview. Now I want people to correct me here, If there is a better way to impliment this. Hi Aditya Actually, that's even closer to what I'm going to do. The main part of the project is discovering ways to detect objects autonomously, with the FR riding the vehicle. I'd use GPS if I had a bigger robot, but I'm afraid that's not an option :) I have little experience in handling camera input, too, and I'm not concerned about Freerunner's computing power. Thanks for your offer. I'd be happy if I could share my new experiences, too. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Where do I discuss these Ideas??
I love the idea. Its amazing, but I'm more of a simple c programmer, need to learn c++ and python. Have started it, but my job spares me just one day a week so Anyways I'll try and putin more Idea's and more than that Implement a few Thanks a lot guys for all the response, really a moral booster. On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Pieter Colpaert freep...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I like your ideas too and I'd like to share my possible future project too ;): BASH-LIKE PHONE An openmoko distribution which uses FSO. The interface is just a shell with on top of it a transparent keyboard (something like the fatfingershell). You can dail like this: piet...@myphone$ dail +3248.. RET or a contact: piet...@myphone$ dail homtab RET # = pieterc phone home dail should be a python/bash/... script using the FSO api. other easy to use commands I can think of: * addcontact contact #number# -group friends * whereami (returns gsm locations and searches for cityname close to that) * sendtext come home for dinner son1 # sends sms to son1 (again with autocompletion) * wakemeup 7:30 * tail /var/mail #to read last text-messages bash-commands or commands you're used to: ls,cd,grep,awk,tail, ps, date, ... and some ported apps: * nethack (yes, the game) * links/lynx, * emacs (with erc) * fortune (I like fortune a lot.) * ... I think it's extremely easy and fun to develop this idea. It would make a perfect unix-lover-phone. We could hack on gnu bash to accomplish the auto completion for contacts and other stuff. Pieter On Fri, 2009-10-09 at 15:27 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: Awesome ideas! I guess this is the place to discuss these. I've also got some ideas, small changes to improve the usability etc. Some stuff that's distro-dependent, some other stuff. Keep your ideas coming, pick one and show us how it works. It'll encourage the community, to me it looks like the -community list is slowing down, discussing mostly qtmoko-stuff.. So I warmly welcome all creative and crazy ideas! r ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Where do I discuss these Ideas??
Just one more Idea, wanna know if already implimented or has a better alternative, A full qwerty keyborad in landscape mode. Here we could use it for sms maybe, similar to fatfingershell, use its keyboard behind a normal sms screen in the background and type the msg with hands while loving to do so ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] new package: theremin (alfa version warning)
The stutter is similar to what I heard when using fluidsynth on the Neo. Does this app use a synth program to generate the sound? Or does it do it directly? -Steven On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Aapo Rantalainen aapo.rantalai...@gmail.com wrote: I packaged maemo-theremin[1] on freerunner SHR-U. It is nice musical tool but unfortunately it is just little bit too slowly to work smoothly. Anybody has any ideas how to get it working little bit faster? Package: http://www.opkg.org/package_287.html Info http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Theremin -Aapo Rantalainen [1] http://theremin.garage.maemo.org/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v14 unable to send sms???
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 2:44 AM, Torfinn Ingolfsen tin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, 2009/10/9 Pablo Miño pablodanielm...@gmail.com No matter if I reply a sms or start a new one, it happens the same. I have my image installed on a partition on a SD card, installed from the tar.gz file. -- Hi, I am trying the tar.gz version and get the same result as Torfinn. have done little more yet, clare ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v14 unable to send sms???
On Friday 09 of October 2009 21:35:02 Pablo Miño wrote: If I select another keyboard it smiply changes the keyboard but the orange pentagon keeps there and does not change for a blue arrow. I simply flash it from the rootfs. I am clueless... Does GSM work? I.e. can you make calls? Btw the screen should look like this: http://activationrecord.net/radekp/qtmoko/screenshots/keyboard_skin.png Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v14 unable to send sms???
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 5:56 AM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: ? Btw the screen should look like this: http://activationrecord.net/radekp/qtmoko/screenshots/keyboard_skin.png yes it did, on the 3rd change of input method, and then as i started to type the red circle with X changed to blue arrow, then it popped up a bar saying send and returned to the red circle then hit the send and it made a place for the number, I hit the word switch which appeared on the lower right of the keyboard and it made a number pad, with useful extras. so could put in the number then it changed to an envelope on the bottom right and that sent it. Earlier a press on the same send bar also sent one, so those both seem to work at that point.. I really like the keyboard ( except perhaps would change the layout of the letters), but the switch feature and Shift are very convenient. Why I said about the layout; I have been using an alphabet layout in Neovento and am getting used to that. thank you, there are a lot of nice features. By the way i found that a press on the power button will enable escape from help. Till then i was in despair. cheers, clare ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v14 unable to send sms???
2009/10/9 Pablo Miño pablodanielm...@gmail.com: No matter if I reply a sms or start a new one, it happens the same. When I start a new message (or reply a sms) I see a red circle with a white cross and when I start typing it changes to an orange pentagon with a white cross inside that is pointing backwards and it actually deletes a character each time it is pressed. Hi Pablo, I get this (the pentagon which erases, when entering the screen to make a call, via the phone picture, left most of the 4 on the nearly empty screen which has the lock at the right. It has on a bar at the top :Dialer. But from the dialer screen I get to the messaging from the columns at the right which has a picture of an envelope. press that and get transported to the screen we are talking about. hope this helps, or is yours not like that? clare ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR-U] How do you rotate the screen in SHR?
I want to use SHR in landscape mode. Several people have discussed using it on the list but it is not clear to me how enter landscape mode. Any suggestions? Thanks. -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] How do you rotate the screen in SHR?
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Michael Smith michael.sm...@netapps.com.au wrote: I want to use SHR in landscape mode. Several people have discussed using it on the list but it is not clear to me how enter landscape mode. Any suggestions? Thanks. -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community look in the wiki under applications, there are several to chose from ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] How do you rotate the screen in SHR?
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 2:17 AM, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Michael Smith michael.sm...@netapps.com.au wrote: I want to use SHR in landscape mode. Several people have discussed using it on the list but it is not clear to me how enter landscape mode. Any suggestions? xrandr ;) Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] How do you rotate the screen in SHR?
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 02:31:40 +0200 Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 2:17 AM, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Michael Smith michael.sm...@netapps.com.au wrote: I want to use SHR in landscape mode. Several people have discussed using it on the list but it is not clear to me how enter landscape mode. None of the rotation applications look mature enough for me to install on my wife's phone. I am looking for a way to improve the keyboard for her. Thanks anyway. -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] How do you rotate the screen in SHR?
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Michael Smith michael.sm...@netapps.com.au wrote: None of the rotation applications look mature enough for me to install on my wife's phone. I am looking for a way to improve the keyboard for her. Thanks anyway. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Literki best keyboard ive see thus far. unless your counting the unconventional qwo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v14 unable to send sms???
I am able to make phone calls, I only have issues with the sms. I will try the tar.gz installation, what file should I backup to keep my contacts? On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 20:40, clare johnstone clar...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/10/9 Pablo Miño pablodanielm...@gmail.com: No matter if I reply a sms or start a new one, it happens the same. When I start a new message (or reply a sms) I see a red circle with a white cross and when I start typing it changes to an orange pentagon with a white cross inside that is pointing backwards and it actually deletes a character each time it is pressed. Hi Pablo, I get this (the pentagon which erases, when entering the screen to make a call, via the phone picture, left most of the 4 on the nearly empty screen which has the lock at the right. It has on a bar at the top :Dialer. But from the dialer screen I get to the messaging from the columns at the right which has a picture of an envelope. press that and get transported to the screen we are talking about. hope this helps, or is yours not like that? clare ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Pablo Miño ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Performance of the accelerometer on FR
Hi ranjan, I would like to have a look at your source code and try to figure out what needs to be done to Increase the performance. Can you tell me where can I look for the code, or can you mail me the code. What software have you used on the PC to make a graph?? On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 7:04 PM, RANJAN infi...@gmail.com wrote: Freerunner uses the LIS302DL accelerometers from ST [1]. They can be switched between +-2g and +-8g range and have a resolution of 8 bit per axis. The sample rate can be selected between 100Hz and 400Hz. And they inherit some nice functions like double click detection and zero-g filtering. So can the selectivity be changed on the FR?And can the sample rate be changed as well?Even if one is able to change the sample rate can one read the values at the same frequency? Sriranjan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Performance of the accelerometer on FR
Hi ranjan, I would like to have a look at your source code and try to figure out what needs to be done to Increase the performance. Can you tell me where can I look for the code, or can you mail me the code. What software have you used on the PC to make a graph?? Use OpenGl with some commands to read the serial port data. (see MSDN documentation if on windows).See wiki for accelerometer code. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
